Re: claims being made on a candida website

[Guest guest]

Yes, I have even heard that probiotics will chelate metals. There is

something called the Townsend Letter that outlines this protocol.

Thanks for the link about the group, thinking it might be a good place to

learn how to control the yeast. We do great here, with enough betacarotenes

and probiotics, heavy dose VSL, expensive though.

claims being made on a candida website

>I belong to a candida website -

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/candidasupport/

>

> This website is totally devoted to candida and there is a wealth of

> information on there about this, plus nutrition and I'd say it's

> probably the best I have seen. The moderator is very knowledgeable

> about this.

>

> What concerns me is, she is making claims that her diet, plus the

> recommended fats and proteins are enough to chelate out heavy metals

> from the body (including mercury). Many people on there believe this

> and think they are going to recover from mercury.

>

> someone challenged her slightly about it, a couple of people and she

> was obviously not happy and gave a few short reasons for her

> exaggerated claims. But I come along and basically after my post,

> she said to me " I consider this subject closed " . She was obviously

> very p*ssed off that she was being questioned and challenged.

>

> Her idea is that lipoic acid is contained naturally in meats and

> other foods, and along with fats/proteins and the candida diet, the

> metals will be chelated out of both body and brain.

>

> has anybody heard of this? And what on earth do you make of it? I

> thought the lipoic acid in food was not in a potent enough form to be

> effective for brain detox and it had to be used in a complete

> supplement form so it was concentrated and then able to be used as a

> chelating agent agent at the appropriate times.

>

> Someone on there seems to think it's worked for them and said their

> hair test was proof and showed elevated heavy metals after she began

> to employ this diet etc. I am sure many of you have been on a

> candida diet, eating meats, vegetables, butter, and other fats and

> proteins and have you chelated your mercury? I sure haven't.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I belong to a candida website -

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/candidasupport/

>

> This website is totally devoted to candida and there is a wealth

of

> information on there about this, plus nutrition and I'd say it's

> probably the best I have seen. The moderator is very

knowledgeable

> about this.

>

> What concerns me is, she is making claims that her diet, plus the

> recommended fats and proteins are enough to chelate out heavy

metals

> from the body (including mercury). Many people on there believe

this

> and think they are going to recover from mercury.

>

> someone challenged her slightly about it, a couple of people and

she

> was obviously not happy and gave a few short reasons for her

> exaggerated claims. But I come along and basically after my post,

> she said to me " I consider this subject closed " . She was

obviously

> very p*ssed off that she was being questioned and challenged.

>

> Her idea is that lipoic acid is contained naturally in meats and

> other foods, and along with fats/proteins and the candida diet,

the

> metals will be chelated out of both body and brain.

>

> has anybody heard of this? And what on earth do you make of it?

I

> thought the lipoic acid in food was not in a potent enough form to

be

> effective for brain detox and it had to be used in a complete

> supplement form so it was concentrated and then able to be used as

a

> chelating agent agent at the appropriate times.

>

> Someone on there seems to think it's worked for them and said

their

> hair test was proof and showed elevated heavy metals after she

began

> to employ this diet etc. I am sure many of you have been on a

> candida diet, eating meats, vegetables, butter, and other fats and

> proteins and have you chelated your mercury? I sure haven't.

>

,

I have been following the same candida support group for 9 mo or

so. I've been on FDC and AMC for about a year. When I started

Bee's diet I began making huge strides in getting healthy, but it

was shortly after amalgam removal and beginning DMSA that I began

the diet. If I cheat on the diet I pay for it big. Often I wonder

if there is any mercury connection because of the response to diet,

but my history of mercury exposure is undeniable.

It is notable that Bee responds that way to a challenge- it reduces

her credibility I think. She criticizes biochemists, drs, etc,

without any factual basis. I doubt she has read any of Cutler's

work.

I like how the " amalgam people " don't claim to know everything,

even admitting chelation might not be good for you except that it

gets rid of the more damaging mercury.

I do hope that things begin to get better for you. It has been

great for me the past 9 months chelating and following the candida

diet. I can't help to have hope for you based on my response, but

we are all different.

[Guest guest]

>

> I belong to a candida website -

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/candidasupport/

>

> This website is totally devoted to candida and there is a wealth

of

> information on there about this, plus nutrition and I'd say it's

> probably the best I have seen. The moderator is very

knowledgeable

> about this.

>

> What concerns me is, she is making claims that her diet, plus the

> recommended fats and proteins are enough to chelate out heavy

metals

> from the body (including mercury). Many people on there believe

this

> and think they are going to recover from mercury.

>

> someone challenged her slightly about it, a couple of people and

she

> was obviously not happy and gave a few short reasons for her

> exaggerated claims. But I come along and basically after my post,

> she said to me " I consider this subject closed " . She was

obviously

> very p*ssed off that she was being questioned and challenged.

>

> Her idea is that lipoic acid is contained naturally in meats and

> other foods, and along with fats/proteins and the candida diet,

the

> metals will be chelated out of both body and brain.

>

> has anybody heard of this? And what on earth do you make of it?

I

> thought the lipoic acid in food was not in a potent enough form to

be

> effective for brain detox and it had to be used in a complete

> supplement form so it was concentrated and then able to be used as

a

> chelating agent agent at the appropriate times.

>

> Someone on there seems to think it's worked for them and said

their

> hair test was proof and showed elevated heavy metals after she

began

> to employ this diet etc. I am sure many of you have been on a

> candida diet, eating meats, vegetables, butter, and other fats and

> proteins and have you chelated your mercury? I sure haven't.

>

,

I have been following the same candida support group for 9 mo or

so. I've been on FDC and AMC for about a year. When I started

Bee's diet I began making huge strides in getting healthy, but it

was shortly after amalgam removal and beginning DMSA that I began

the diet. If I cheat on the diet I pay for it big. Often I wonder

if there is any mercury connection because of the response to diet,

but my history of mercury exposure is undeniable.

It is notable that Bee responds that way to a challenge- it reduces

her credibility I think. She criticizes biochemists, drs, etc,

without any factual basis. I doubt she has read any of Cutler's

work.

I like how the " amalgam people " don't claim to know everything,

even admitting chelation might not be good for you except that it

gets rid of the more damaging mercury.

I do hope that things begin to get better for you. It has been

great for me the past 9 months chelating and following the candida

diet. I can't help to have hope for you based on my response, but

we are all different.

[Guest guest]

>

> I belong to a candida website -

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/candidasupport/

>

> This website is totally devoted to candida and there is a wealth

of

> information on there about this, plus nutrition and I'd say it's

> probably the best I have seen. The moderator is very

knowledgeable

> about this.

>

> What concerns me is, she is making claims that her diet, plus the

> recommended fats and proteins are enough to chelate out heavy

metals

> from the body (including mercury). Many people on there believe

this

> and think they are going to recover from mercury.

>

> someone challenged her slightly about it, a couple of people and

she

> was obviously not happy and gave a few short reasons for her

> exaggerated claims. But I come along and basically after my post,

> she said to me " I consider this subject closed " . She was

obviously

> very p*ssed off that she was being questioned and challenged.

>

> Her idea is that lipoic acid is contained naturally in meats and

> other foods, and along with fats/proteins and the candida diet,

the

> metals will be chelated out of both body and brain.

>

> has anybody heard of this? And what on earth do you make of it?

I

> thought the lipoic acid in food was not in a potent enough form to

be

> effective for brain detox and it had to be used in a complete

> supplement form so it was concentrated and then able to be used as

a

> chelating agent agent at the appropriate times.

>

> Someone on there seems to think it's worked for them and said

their

> hair test was proof and showed elevated heavy metals after she

began

> to employ this diet etc. I am sure many of you have been on a

> candida diet, eating meats, vegetables, butter, and other fats and

> proteins and have you chelated your mercury? I sure haven't.

>

,

I have been following the same candida support group for 9 mo or

so. I've been on FDC and AMC for about a year. When I started

Bee's diet I began making huge strides in getting healthy, but it

was shortly after amalgam removal and beginning DMSA that I began

the diet. If I cheat on the diet I pay for it big. Often I wonder

if there is any mercury connection because of the response to diet,

but my history of mercury exposure is undeniable.

It is notable that Bee responds that way to a challenge- it reduces

her credibility I think. She criticizes biochemists, drs, etc,

without any factual basis. I doubt she has read any of Cutler's

work.

I like how the " amalgam people " don't claim to know everything,

even admitting chelation might not be good for you except that it

gets rid of the more damaging mercury.

I do hope that things begin to get better for you. It has been

great for me the past 9 months chelating and following the candida

diet. I can't help to have hope for you based on my response, but

we are all different.

[Guest guest]

Hi.

I'm a big believer in food being your best friend, both in terms of

how it makes you feel and as using it as medicine.

I am a raw foodist, and that includes animal products, such as meat

and dairy.

because of this, i've done alot of reading that maybe others havent

been exposed to. i dont say this with any sense of superiority, but

more from a perspective of just something that's unusual or

unexpected, but nevertheless, pretty true.

That all being said, what i've learned is that raw red meat is about

as high in lipoic acid as you can find in any food. i also know

that raw dairy fats have a profound soothing and calming effect on

the nervous system.

The person who is the big proponent of this diet has helped

countless people recover from serious health problems, and alot of

those problems are mercury related. his recommendations usually run

along the lines of a few raw meat meals a day and 3-4 servings of

fresh juiced green veggie juice, which typically contains about 15%

cilantro.

These are all pretty much timed meals, meaning everything occurrs at

pretty regular intervals.

when i started doing this diet, i felt the best i ever felt in my

entire life, by a factor of about 100. if i hadnt been stupid and

gotten the dmps challenge test done on me, i'd still be doing it and

never would have even been exposed to all this other stuff, that now

pretty much consumes my life.

i'm in no way knocking the frequent dose protocol, but i do think

people should know that other possibilities do exist. obviously

that diet isnt going to appeal to alot of folks out there, but it

does seem to work for most people who do it.

one thing is for certain though, if it werent for andy, his writings

and these groups, i'd probably have done something drasticly bad.

ok, enough rambling for now!

dave

>

> I belong to a candida website -

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/candidasupport/

>

> This website is totally devoted to candida and there is a wealth

of

> information on there about this, plus nutrition and I'd say it's

> probably the best I have seen. The moderator is very

knowledgeable

> about this.

>

> What concerns me is, she is making claims that her diet, plus the

> recommended fats and proteins are enough to chelate out heavy

metals

> from the body (including mercury). Many people on there believe

this

> and think they are going to recover from mercury.

>

> someone challenged her slightly about it, a couple of people and

she

> was obviously not happy and gave a few short reasons for her

> exaggerated claims. But I come along and basically after my post,

> she said to me " I consider this subject closed " . She was

obviously

> very p*ssed off that she was being questioned and challenged.

>

> Her idea is that lipoic acid is contained naturally in meats and

> other foods, and along with fats/proteins and the candida diet,

the

> metals will be chelated out of both body and brain.

>

> has anybody heard of this? And what on earth do you make of it?

I

> thought the lipoic acid in food was not in a potent enough form to

be

> effective for brain detox and it had to be used in a complete

> supplement form so it was concentrated and then able to be used as

a

> chelating agent agent at the appropriate times.

>

> Someone on there seems to think it's worked for them and said

their

> hair test was proof and showed elevated heavy metals after she

began

> to employ this diet etc. I am sure many of you have been on a

> candida diet, eating meats, vegetables, butter, and other fats and

> proteins and have you chelated your mercury? I sure haven't.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi.

I'm a big believer in food being your best friend, both in terms of

how it makes you feel and as using it as medicine.

I am a raw foodist, and that includes animal products, such as meat

and dairy.

because of this, i've done alot of reading that maybe others havent

been exposed to. i dont say this with any sense of superiority, but

more from a perspective of just something that's unusual or

unexpected, but nevertheless, pretty true.

That all being said, what i've learned is that raw red meat is about

as high in lipoic acid as you can find in any food. i also know

that raw dairy fats have a profound soothing and calming effect on

the nervous system.

The person who is the big proponent of this diet has helped

countless people recover from serious health problems, and alot of

those problems are mercury related. his recommendations usually run

along the lines of a few raw meat meals a day and 3-4 servings of

fresh juiced green veggie juice, which typically contains about 15%

cilantro.

These are all pretty much timed meals, meaning everything occurrs at

pretty regular intervals.

when i started doing this diet, i felt the best i ever felt in my

entire life, by a factor of about 100. if i hadnt been stupid and

gotten the dmps challenge test done on me, i'd still be doing it and

never would have even been exposed to all this other stuff, that now

pretty much consumes my life.

i'm in no way knocking the frequent dose protocol, but i do think

people should know that other possibilities do exist. obviously

that diet isnt going to appeal to alot of folks out there, but it

does seem to work for most people who do it.

one thing is for certain though, if it werent for andy, his writings

and these groups, i'd probably have done something drasticly bad.

ok, enough rambling for now!

dave

>

> I belong to a candida website -

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/candidasupport/

>

> This website is totally devoted to candida and there is a wealth

of

> information on there about this, plus nutrition and I'd say it's

> probably the best I have seen. The moderator is very

knowledgeable

> about this.

>

> What concerns me is, she is making claims that her diet, plus the

> recommended fats and proteins are enough to chelate out heavy

metals

> from the body (including mercury). Many people on there believe

this

> and think they are going to recover from mercury.

>

> someone challenged her slightly about it, a couple of people and

she

> was obviously not happy and gave a few short reasons for her

> exaggerated claims. But I come along and basically after my post,

> she said to me " I consider this subject closed " . She was

obviously

> very p*ssed off that she was being questioned and challenged.

>

> Her idea is that lipoic acid is contained naturally in meats and

> other foods, and along with fats/proteins and the candida diet,

the

> metals will be chelated out of both body and brain.

>

> has anybody heard of this? And what on earth do you make of it?

I

> thought the lipoic acid in food was not in a potent enough form to

be

> effective for brain detox and it had to be used in a complete

> supplement form so it was concentrated and then able to be used as

a

> chelating agent agent at the appropriate times.

>

> Someone on there seems to think it's worked for them and said

their

> hair test was proof and showed elevated heavy metals after she

began

> to employ this diet etc. I am sure many of you have been on a

> candida diet, eating meats, vegetables, butter, and other fats and

> proteins and have you chelated your mercury? I sure haven't.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi.

I'm a big believer in food being your best friend, both in terms of

how it makes you feel and as using it as medicine.

I am a raw foodist, and that includes animal products, such as meat

and dairy.

because of this, i've done alot of reading that maybe others havent

been exposed to. i dont say this with any sense of superiority, but

more from a perspective of just something that's unusual or

unexpected, but nevertheless, pretty true.

That all being said, what i've learned is that raw red meat is about

as high in lipoic acid as you can find in any food. i also know

that raw dairy fats have a profound soothing and calming effect on

the nervous system.

The person who is the big proponent of this diet has helped

countless people recover from serious health problems, and alot of

those problems are mercury related. his recommendations usually run

along the lines of a few raw meat meals a day and 3-4 servings of

fresh juiced green veggie juice, which typically contains about 15%

cilantro.

These are all pretty much timed meals, meaning everything occurrs at

pretty regular intervals.

when i started doing this diet, i felt the best i ever felt in my

entire life, by a factor of about 100. if i hadnt been stupid and

gotten the dmps challenge test done on me, i'd still be doing it and

never would have even been exposed to all this other stuff, that now

pretty much consumes my life.

i'm in no way knocking the frequent dose protocol, but i do think

people should know that other possibilities do exist. obviously

that diet isnt going to appeal to alot of folks out there, but it

does seem to work for most people who do it.

one thing is for certain though, if it werent for andy, his writings

and these groups, i'd probably have done something drasticly bad.

ok, enough rambling for now!

dave

>

> I belong to a candida website -

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/candidasupport/

>

> This website is totally devoted to candida and there is a wealth

of

> information on there about this, plus nutrition and I'd say it's

> probably the best I have seen. The moderator is very

knowledgeable

> about this.

>

> What concerns me is, she is making claims that her diet, plus the

> recommended fats and proteins are enough to chelate out heavy

metals

> from the body (including mercury). Many people on there believe

this

> and think they are going to recover from mercury.

>

> someone challenged her slightly about it, a couple of people and

she

> was obviously not happy and gave a few short reasons for her

> exaggerated claims. But I come along and basically after my post,

> she said to me " I consider this subject closed " . She was

obviously

> very p*ssed off that she was being questioned and challenged.

>

> Her idea is that lipoic acid is contained naturally in meats and

> other foods, and along with fats/proteins and the candida diet,

the

> metals will be chelated out of both body and brain.

>

> has anybody heard of this? And what on earth do you make of it?

I

> thought the lipoic acid in food was not in a potent enough form to

be

> effective for brain detox and it had to be used in a complete

> supplement form so it was concentrated and then able to be used as

a

> chelating agent agent at the appropriate times.

>

> Someone on there seems to think it's worked for them and said

their

> hair test was proof and showed elevated heavy metals after she

began

> to employ this diet etc. I am sure many of you have been on a

> candida diet, eating meats, vegetables, butter, and other fats and

> proteins and have you chelated your mercury? I sure haven't.

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I belong to a candida website -

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/candidasupport/

>

> This website is totally devoted to candida and there is a wealth of

> information on there about this, plus nutrition and I'd say it's

> probably the best I have seen. The moderator is very knowledgeable

> about this.

>

> What concerns me is, she is making claims that her diet, plus the

> recommended fats and proteins are enough to chelate out heavy metals

> from the body (including mercury).

Many people on there believe this

> and think they are going to recover from mercury.

>

Does this candidasupport group propose using diet alone to conquer

what they believe to be 'candida'? or are they obsessed with the use

of antifungals too? Just curious.

> Her idea is that lipoic acid is contained naturally in meats and

> other foods, and along with fats/proteins and the candida diet, the

> metals will be chelated out of both body and brain.

If someone had lots of time they could calculate how much lipoic acid

there is in food and how many (million) lifetimes it would take for

that amount of LA to chelate out the mercury from one vaccine, or one

amalgam or whatever.

If the diet is a 'good' one, and not harmful (I haven't looked at it

yet), then that's great. The harmful element would be if someone who

is seriously poisoned decided not to chelate on the false belief that

diet alone will lead to recovery from metal poisoning.

I do believe, though, that someone trying to recover with diet alone

is better off than someone who gets involved with what Andy calls the

'witchdoctor' or 'harmful inappropriate' protocols.

I also believe that diet is a key element that goes along with

chelation. Chelation removes the mercury. Diet and supplements are

what gives the body the raw materials it needs to heal. If any one

material is a limiting factor the whole healing process is limited.

Andy has talked about diet at length in his book and in autism mercury

archives. I look forward to reading what he has to say about it in

his new book.

Just my 2 cents.

J

> someone challenged her slightly about it, a couple of people and she

> was obviously not happy and gave a few short reasons for her

> exaggerated claims. But I come along and basically after my post,

> she said to me " I consider this subject closed " . She was obviously

> very p*ssed off that she was being questioned and challenged.

>

> Her idea is that lipoic acid is contained naturally in meats and

> other foods, and along with fats/proteins and the candida diet, the

> metals will be chelated out of both body and brain.

>

> has anybody heard of this? And what on earth do you make of it? I

> thought the lipoic acid in food was not in a potent enough form to be

> effective for brain detox and it had to be used in a complete

> supplement form so it was concentrated and then able to be used as a

> chelating agent agent at the appropriate times.

>

> Someone on there seems to think it's worked for them and said their

> hair test was proof and showed elevated heavy metals after she began

> to employ this diet etc. I am sure many of you have been on a

> candida diet, eating meats, vegetables, butter, and other fats and

> proteins and have you chelated your mercury? I sure haven't.

>