Guest guest Posted December 31, 2005 Report Share Posted December 31, 2005 .. Am I wrong to be annoyed at what they did? How would you handle it the next time? > > > susan, being annoyed is just a feeling----and feelings are never right or wrong, they're just feelings. i think i would have felt the same way as you. they probably thought they were being thoughtful in bringing the treats. maybe the next time, you could thank them and tell them how much you appreciated them bringing things in the past, but that it would just be easier on your boys if you did all the baking-------and i guess if they really want to bring something, tell them you have recipes. christine > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2005 Report Share Posted December 31, 2005 .. Am I wrong to be annoyed at what they did? How would you handle it the next time? > > > susan, being annoyed is just a feeling----and feelings are never right or wrong, they're just feelings. i think i would have felt the same way as you. they probably thought they were being thoughtful in bringing the treats. maybe the next time, you could thank them and tell them how much you appreciated them bringing things in the past, but that it would just be easier on your boys if you did all the baking-------and i guess if they really want to bring something, tell them you have recipes. christine > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2005 Report Share Posted December 31, 2005 .. Am I wrong to be annoyed at what they did? How would you handle it the next time? > > > susan, being annoyed is just a feeling----and feelings are never right or wrong, they're just feelings. i think i would have felt the same way as you. they probably thought they were being thoughtful in bringing the treats. maybe the next time, you could thank them and tell them how much you appreciated them bringing things in the past, but that it would just be easier on your boys if you did all the baking-------and i guess if they really want to bring something, tell them you have recipes. christine > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2005 Report Share Posted December 31, 2005 You have every right to be annoyed.Your children will become ill with these comfort foods that were brought to you.You need to be on guard for their health. I would call these relatives and let them know that you loved hosting them but in the future you will call them and ask them to bring specific foods rather than baking.You can ask for a fruit/veggie platter , shrimp or other sea food and prepackaged gluten free foods.You can explain that if they feel the need for a piece of pie, they can go to a restaurant and enjoy one. Good luck, Doreen People bringing glutened goods into your home I just sent off 10 house guests who were here for 4 nights. My three boys ages 13, 11 and 6 have celiac. The guests were my husbands parents and all of his siblings and their children. The only other "children" in the group were ages 2, 20 and 22. We were celebrating my husbands parents 60th wedding anniversary - what an accomplishment! At any rate, I was caught off guard when all of them, including the grandparents walked in with tons of cakes, homemade cookies, banana bread, pies, etc. - all of it glutened. They are well aware of our children's condition and all of the limitations. We have stayed at their homes since diagnosis and we have sent them articles and emails giving them info on the condition. We have shared with them how hard it is for the boys to be around all of the things they can't have and what an issue cross contamination is - you should see the CRUMBS on my counter, floor, etc. Interestingly enough, I had baked alot of GF items and people scarfed them up. They didn't eat their own baking until ours was gone, which left me to do additional baking for the boys. That part was a good thing because my kids liked that others like the GF pies, etc. I am surprised that no one at least called me to ask if it was ok. They are my in-laws and not my own family and I think that is part of it. My mom and sister have knocked themselves out to bake gluten-free when we visit or when they visit us. They would not think of bringing glutened items into our home. As they were packing to leave last night, I did invite them to take all of the left over baked goods home. I said, "The boys can't have them and Randy and I do not eat those things in front of them." Hint hint. I am just looking for some clear perspective that I might not have. My inlaws have treated our children dufferently all along (the other grandchildren are children of their daughters) , so I am wondering if my feelings on this are just "carry over" from previous issues not related to the celiac. It is obvious that my husband thinks what they did is fine, but that would be a whole other chapter. I would like your input on two things. Am I wrong to be annoyed at what they did? How would you handle it the next time? Thanks, in GA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2005 Report Share Posted December 31, 2005 You have every right to be annoyed.Your children will become ill with these comfort foods that were brought to you.You need to be on guard for their health. I would call these relatives and let them know that you loved hosting them but in the future you will call them and ask them to bring specific foods rather than baking.You can ask for a fruit/veggie platter , shrimp or other sea food and prepackaged gluten free foods.You can explain that if they feel the need for a piece of pie, they can go to a restaurant and enjoy one. Good luck, Doreen People bringing glutened goods into your home I just sent off 10 house guests who were here for 4 nights. My three boys ages 13, 11 and 6 have celiac. The guests were my husbands parents and all of his siblings and their children. The only other "children" in the group were ages 2, 20 and 22. We were celebrating my husbands parents 60th wedding anniversary - what an accomplishment! At any rate, I was caught off guard when all of them, including the grandparents walked in with tons of cakes, homemade cookies, banana bread, pies, etc. - all of it glutened. They are well aware of our children's condition and all of the limitations. We have stayed at their homes since diagnosis and we have sent them articles and emails giving them info on the condition. We have shared with them how hard it is for the boys to be around all of the things they can't have and what an issue cross contamination is - you should see the CRUMBS on my counter, floor, etc. Interestingly enough, I had baked alot of GF items and people scarfed them up. They didn't eat their own baking until ours was gone, which left me to do additional baking for the boys. That part was a good thing because my kids liked that others like the GF pies, etc. I am surprised that no one at least called me to ask if it was ok. They are my in-laws and not my own family and I think that is part of it. My mom and sister have knocked themselves out to bake gluten-free when we visit or when they visit us. They would not think of bringing glutened items into our home. As they were packing to leave last night, I did invite them to take all of the left over baked goods home. I said, "The boys can't have them and Randy and I do not eat those things in front of them." Hint hint. I am just looking for some clear perspective that I might not have. My inlaws have treated our children dufferently all along (the other grandchildren are children of their daughters) , so I am wondering if my feelings on this are just "carry over" from previous issues not related to the celiac. It is obvious that my husband thinks what they did is fine, but that would be a whole other chapter. I would like your input on two things. Am I wrong to be annoyed at what they did? How would you handle it the next time? Thanks, in GA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2005 Report Share Posted December 31, 2005 > > I just sent off 10 house guests who were here for 4 nights. What's that saying?? " Fish and family stink after 3 days " ??? Laugh! Anyway, I'd be TRULY annoyed. I would have shown them the front door and given them the phone number for a nearby hotel. I'm the only celiac in my house and I'm an adult (at least one day a week). And *I* find it annoying to be around glutened goodies. It would be a million times worse if it were my childrens' health at stake. I'm so sorry. Wish I could be there to help you degluten the place. Hugs. Esther Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2005 Report Share Posted December 31, 2005 > > I just sent off 10 house guests who were here for 4 nights. What's that saying?? " Fish and family stink after 3 days " ??? Laugh! Anyway, I'd be TRULY annoyed. I would have shown them the front door and given them the phone number for a nearby hotel. I'm the only celiac in my house and I'm an adult (at least one day a week). And *I* find it annoying to be around glutened goodies. It would be a million times worse if it were my childrens' health at stake. I'm so sorry. Wish I could be there to help you degluten the place. Hugs. Esther Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2005 Report Share Posted December 31, 2005 > > I just sent off 10 house guests who were here for 4 nights. What's that saying?? " Fish and family stink after 3 days " ??? Laugh! Anyway, I'd be TRULY annoyed. I would have shown them the front door and given them the phone number for a nearby hotel. I'm the only celiac in my house and I'm an adult (at least one day a week). And *I* find it annoying to be around glutened goodies. It would be a million times worse if it were my childrens' health at stake. I'm so sorry. Wish I could be there to help you degluten the place. Hugs. Esther Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2005 Report Share Posted December 31, 2005 I had this happen tonight actually. It does really irritate me! However, I don’t think they mean any real harm – I think they are just clueless. My SIL brought a plate of baked gluten things and NO ONE ate any of them. They only ate the desserts I provided. I think she just wanted to feel that she was contributing and not just being a bum by not bringing anything. Even tho I had very specifically asked her not to bring anything – grr. I think usually these are well meaning goobers that just don’t understand what a sense of loss comes from seeing others enjoy what used to be favorite foods that are now out of reach. I truthfully am not even tempted – I felt so bad before that I have no desire to cheat. But I do grieve for my kids – they really do feel sad when they see these forbidden things and I don’t want them to have to see them in our home. Fortunately, they didn’t feel so bad when the cousins bad mouthed the purchased treats they brought and were thrilled to eat ours. I don’t have this happen often but I do find it both stressful and annoying when it does. I do always set up the off limits things in a different area in case of contamination and watch it like a hawk. If it is a really crumbly item I put it up completely and tell them that I am uncomfortable taking the risk in my home. I tell them we appreciate the thought, but we’ll save it for them to enjoy after they leave. And I only intend to deal with it once with each group of people. I will be more specific with these relatives next time and assign her a fruit salad if she feels awkward coming emptyhanded. Becky From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of ozonasusan@... Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 12:25 PM To: SillyYaks Subject: People bringing glutened goods into your home I just sent off 10 house guests who were here for 4 nights. My three boys ages 13, 11 and 6 have celiac. The guests were my husbands parents and all of his siblings and their children. The only other " children " in the group were ages 2, 20 and 22. We were celebrating my husbands parents 60th wedding anniversary - what an accomplishment! At any rate, I was caught off guard when all of them, including the grandparents walked in with tons of cakes, homemade cookies, banana bread, pies, etc. - all of it glutened. They are well aware of our children's condition and all of the limitations. We have stayed at their homes since diagnosis and we have sent them articles and emails giving them info on the condition. We have shared with them how hard it is for the boys to be around all of the things they can't have and what an issue cross contamination is - you should see the CRUMBS on my counter, floor, etc. Interestingly enough, I had baked alot of GF items and people scarfed them up. They didn't eat their own baking until ours was gone, which left me to do additional baking for the boys. That part was a good thing because my kids liked that others like the GF pies, etc. I am surprised that no one at least called me to ask if it was ok. They are my in-laws and not my own family and I think that is part of it. My mom and sister have knocked themselves out to bake gluten-free when we visit or when they visit us. They would not think of bringing glutened items into our home. As they were packing to leave last night, I did invite them to take all of the left over baked goods home. I said, " The boys can't have them and Randy and I do not eat those things in front of them. " Hint hint. I am just looking for some clear perspective that I might not have. My inlaws have treated our children dufferently all along (the other grandchildren are children of their daughters) , so I am wondering if my feelings on this are just " carry over " from previous issues not related to the celiac. It is obvious that my husband thinks what they did is fine, but that would be a whole other chapter. I would like your input on two things. Am I wrong to be annoyed at what they did? How would you handle it the next time? Thanks, in GA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2005 Report Share Posted December 31, 2005 I had this happen tonight actually. It does really irritate me! However, I don’t think they mean any real harm – I think they are just clueless. My SIL brought a plate of baked gluten things and NO ONE ate any of them. They only ate the desserts I provided. I think she just wanted to feel that she was contributing and not just being a bum by not bringing anything. Even tho I had very specifically asked her not to bring anything – grr. I think usually these are well meaning goobers that just don’t understand what a sense of loss comes from seeing others enjoy what used to be favorite foods that are now out of reach. I truthfully am not even tempted – I felt so bad before that I have no desire to cheat. But I do grieve for my kids – they really do feel sad when they see these forbidden things and I don’t want them to have to see them in our home. Fortunately, they didn’t feel so bad when the cousins bad mouthed the purchased treats they brought and were thrilled to eat ours. I don’t have this happen often but I do find it both stressful and annoying when it does. I do always set up the off limits things in a different area in case of contamination and watch it like a hawk. If it is a really crumbly item I put it up completely and tell them that I am uncomfortable taking the risk in my home. I tell them we appreciate the thought, but we’ll save it for them to enjoy after they leave. And I only intend to deal with it once with each group of people. I will be more specific with these relatives next time and assign her a fruit salad if she feels awkward coming emptyhanded. Becky From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of ozonasusan@... Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 12:25 PM To: SillyYaks Subject: People bringing glutened goods into your home I just sent off 10 house guests who were here for 4 nights. My three boys ages 13, 11 and 6 have celiac. The guests were my husbands parents and all of his siblings and their children. The only other " children " in the group were ages 2, 20 and 22. We were celebrating my husbands parents 60th wedding anniversary - what an accomplishment! At any rate, I was caught off guard when all of them, including the grandparents walked in with tons of cakes, homemade cookies, banana bread, pies, etc. - all of it glutened. They are well aware of our children's condition and all of the limitations. We have stayed at their homes since diagnosis and we have sent them articles and emails giving them info on the condition. We have shared with them how hard it is for the boys to be around all of the things they can't have and what an issue cross contamination is - you should see the CRUMBS on my counter, floor, etc. Interestingly enough, I had baked alot of GF items and people scarfed them up. They didn't eat their own baking until ours was gone, which left me to do additional baking for the boys. That part was a good thing because my kids liked that others like the GF pies, etc. I am surprised that no one at least called me to ask if it was ok. They are my in-laws and not my own family and I think that is part of it. My mom and sister have knocked themselves out to bake gluten-free when we visit or when they visit us. They would not think of bringing glutened items into our home. As they were packing to leave last night, I did invite them to take all of the left over baked goods home. I said, " The boys can't have them and Randy and I do not eat those things in front of them. " Hint hint. I am just looking for some clear perspective that I might not have. My inlaws have treated our children dufferently all along (the other grandchildren are children of their daughters) , so I am wondering if my feelings on this are just " carry over " from previous issues not related to the celiac. It is obvious that my husband thinks what they did is fine, but that would be a whole other chapter. I would like your input on two things. Am I wrong to be annoyed at what they did? How would you handle it the next time? Thanks, in GA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2005 Report Share Posted December 31, 2005 I had this happen tonight actually. It does really irritate me! However, I don’t think they mean any real harm – I think they are just clueless. My SIL brought a plate of baked gluten things and NO ONE ate any of them. They only ate the desserts I provided. I think she just wanted to feel that she was contributing and not just being a bum by not bringing anything. Even tho I had very specifically asked her not to bring anything – grr. I think usually these are well meaning goobers that just don’t understand what a sense of loss comes from seeing others enjoy what used to be favorite foods that are now out of reach. I truthfully am not even tempted – I felt so bad before that I have no desire to cheat. But I do grieve for my kids – they really do feel sad when they see these forbidden things and I don’t want them to have to see them in our home. Fortunately, they didn’t feel so bad when the cousins bad mouthed the purchased treats they brought and were thrilled to eat ours. I don’t have this happen often but I do find it both stressful and annoying when it does. I do always set up the off limits things in a different area in case of contamination and watch it like a hawk. If it is a really crumbly item I put it up completely and tell them that I am uncomfortable taking the risk in my home. I tell them we appreciate the thought, but we’ll save it for them to enjoy after they leave. And I only intend to deal with it once with each group of people. I will be more specific with these relatives next time and assign her a fruit salad if she feels awkward coming emptyhanded. Becky From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of ozonasusan@... Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 12:25 PM To: SillyYaks Subject: People bringing glutened goods into your home I just sent off 10 house guests who were here for 4 nights. My three boys ages 13, 11 and 6 have celiac. The guests were my husbands parents and all of his siblings and their children. The only other " children " in the group were ages 2, 20 and 22. We were celebrating my husbands parents 60th wedding anniversary - what an accomplishment! At any rate, I was caught off guard when all of them, including the grandparents walked in with tons of cakes, homemade cookies, banana bread, pies, etc. - all of it glutened. They are well aware of our children's condition and all of the limitations. We have stayed at their homes since diagnosis and we have sent them articles and emails giving them info on the condition. We have shared with them how hard it is for the boys to be around all of the things they can't have and what an issue cross contamination is - you should see the CRUMBS on my counter, floor, etc. Interestingly enough, I had baked alot of GF items and people scarfed them up. They didn't eat their own baking until ours was gone, which left me to do additional baking for the boys. That part was a good thing because my kids liked that others like the GF pies, etc. I am surprised that no one at least called me to ask if it was ok. They are my in-laws and not my own family and I think that is part of it. My mom and sister have knocked themselves out to bake gluten-free when we visit or when they visit us. They would not think of bringing glutened items into our home. As they were packing to leave last night, I did invite them to take all of the left over baked goods home. I said, " The boys can't have them and Randy and I do not eat those things in front of them. " Hint hint. I am just looking for some clear perspective that I might not have. My inlaws have treated our children dufferently all along (the other grandchildren are children of their daughters) , so I am wondering if my feelings on this are just " carry over " from previous issues not related to the celiac. It is obvious that my husband thinks what they did is fine, but that would be a whole other chapter. I would like your input on two things. Am I wrong to be annoyed at what they did? How would you handle it the next time? Thanks, in GA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2006 Report Share Posted January 1, 2006 Feelings are exactly what another poster said, neither right or wrong. Becky also makes a good point here about people not wanting to be empty handed when they show up (especially those that are staying!!), that would be their feelings. Either way, it may not have been the best choice of things your guest could bring, but I guess I don't think they were " wrong " in their gesture unless you specifically made clear to them that no gluten is allowed in your house. In something like Celiac, I've learned that people don't get the subtle hints so they may not understand the lengths you have to go to to be GF (we had a recent fondue incident that I had to explain to my husbands family that once you dip a pretzel into the chocolate, I'm out - they put the pretzels away!) and how their baked goods are a problem. My feeling would be that this was a live and learn lesson, but if next time under specific no gluten orders they still bring them, then it's a whole new ballgame! On Sun, 1 Jan 2006 00:54:42 -0600, richabec wrote > I had this happen tonight actually.  It does really irritate me!  >  > However, I don’t think they mean any real harm – I think they are just clueless.  My SIL brought a plate of baked gluten things and NO ONE ate any of them.  They only ate the desserts I provided. I think she just wanted to feel that she was contributing and not just being a bum by not bringing anything.  Even tho I had very specifically asked her not to bring anything – grr. I think usually these are well meaning goobers that just don’t understand what a sense of loss comes from seeing others enjoy what used to be favorite foods that are now out of reach.  >  > I truthfully am not even tempted – I felt so bad before that I have no desire to cheat.  But I do grieve for my kids – they really do feel sad when they see these forbidden things and I don’t want them to have to see them in our home.  Fortunately, they didn’t feel so bad when the cousins bad mouthed the purchased treats they brought and were thrilled to eat ours.  >  > I don’t have this happen often but I do find it both stressful and annoying when it does.  I do always set up the off limits things in a different area in case of contamination and watch it like a hawk.  >  > If it is a really crumbly item I put it up completely and tell them that I am uncomfortable taking the risk in my home.  I tell them we appreciate the thought, but we’ll save it for them to enjoy after they leave.  And I only intend to deal with it once with each group of people.  I will be more specific with these relatives next time and assign her a fruit salad if she feels awkward coming emptyhanded. >  > Becky >  > > > From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of ozonasusan@... > Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 12:25 PM > To: SillyYaks > Subject: People bringing glutened goods into your home >  > >  I just sent off 10 house guests who were here for 4 nights. My three boys ages 13, 11 and 6 have celiac. The guests were my husbands parents and all of his siblings and their children. The only other " children " in the group were ages 2, 20 and 22. We were celebrating my husbands parents 60th wedding anniversary - what an accomplishment! > >  > > At any rate, I was caught off guard when all of them, including the grandparents walked in with tons of cakes, homemade cookies, banana bread, pies, etc. - all of it glutened. They are well aware of our children's condition and all of the limitations. We have stayed at their homes since diagnosis and we have sent them articles and emails giving them info on the condition. We have shared with them how hard it is for the boys to be around all of the things they can't have and what an issue cross contamination is - you should see the CRUMBS on my counter, floor, etc. > >  > > Interestingly enough, I had baked alot of GF items and people scarfed them up. They didn't eat their own baking until ours was gone, which left me to do additional baking for the boys. That part was a good thing because my kids liked that others like the GF pies, etc. > >  > > I am surprised that no one at least called me to ask if it was ok. They are my in-laws and not my own family and I think that is part of it. My mom and sister have knocked themselves out to bake gluten-free when we visit or when they visit us. They would not think of bringing glutened items into our home. > >  > > As they were packing to leave last night, I did invite them to take all of the left over baked goods home. I said, " The boys can't have them and Randy and I do not eat those things in front of them. "  Hint hint. > >  > > I am just looking for some clear perspective that I might not have. My inlaws have treated our children dufferently all along (the other grandchildren are children of their daughters) , so I am wondering if my feelings on this are just " carry over " from previous issues not related to the celiac. It is obvious that my husband thinks what they did is fine, but that would be a whole other chapter. > >  > > I would like your input on two things. Am I wrong to be annoyed at what they did? How would you handle it the next time? > >  > > Thanks, > >  > > in GA >  > >  >  > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2006 Report Share Posted January 1, 2006 Feelings are exactly what another poster said, neither right or wrong. Becky also makes a good point here about people not wanting to be empty handed when they show up (especially those that are staying!!), that would be their feelings. Either way, it may not have been the best choice of things your guest could bring, but I guess I don't think they were " wrong " in their gesture unless you specifically made clear to them that no gluten is allowed in your house. In something like Celiac, I've learned that people don't get the subtle hints so they may not understand the lengths you have to go to to be GF (we had a recent fondue incident that I had to explain to my husbands family that once you dip a pretzel into the chocolate, I'm out - they put the pretzels away!) and how their baked goods are a problem. My feeling would be that this was a live and learn lesson, but if next time under specific no gluten orders they still bring them, then it's a whole new ballgame! On Sun, 1 Jan 2006 00:54:42 -0600, richabec wrote > I had this happen tonight actually.  It does really irritate me!  >  > However, I don’t think they mean any real harm – I think they are just clueless.  My SIL brought a plate of baked gluten things and NO ONE ate any of them.  They only ate the desserts I provided. I think she just wanted to feel that she was contributing and not just being a bum by not bringing anything.  Even tho I had very specifically asked her not to bring anything – grr. I think usually these are well meaning goobers that just don’t understand what a sense of loss comes from seeing others enjoy what used to be favorite foods that are now out of reach.  >  > I truthfully am not even tempted – I felt so bad before that I have no desire to cheat.  But I do grieve for my kids – they really do feel sad when they see these forbidden things and I don’t want them to have to see them in our home.  Fortunately, they didn’t feel so bad when the cousins bad mouthed the purchased treats they brought and were thrilled to eat ours.  >  > I don’t have this happen often but I do find it both stressful and annoying when it does.  I do always set up the off limits things in a different area in case of contamination and watch it like a hawk.  >  > If it is a really crumbly item I put it up completely and tell them that I am uncomfortable taking the risk in my home.  I tell them we appreciate the thought, but we’ll save it for them to enjoy after they leave.  And I only intend to deal with it once with each group of people.  I will be more specific with these relatives next time and assign her a fruit salad if she feels awkward coming emptyhanded. >  > Becky >  > > > From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of ozonasusan@... > Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 12:25 PM > To: SillyYaks > Subject: People bringing glutened goods into your home >  > >  I just sent off 10 house guests who were here for 4 nights. My three boys ages 13, 11 and 6 have celiac. The guests were my husbands parents and all of his siblings and their children. The only other " children " in the group were ages 2, 20 and 22. We were celebrating my husbands parents 60th wedding anniversary - what an accomplishment! > >  > > At any rate, I was caught off guard when all of them, including the grandparents walked in with tons of cakes, homemade cookies, banana bread, pies, etc. - all of it glutened. They are well aware of our children's condition and all of the limitations. We have stayed at their homes since diagnosis and we have sent them articles and emails giving them info on the condition. We have shared with them how hard it is for the boys to be around all of the things they can't have and what an issue cross contamination is - you should see the CRUMBS on my counter, floor, etc. > >  > > Interestingly enough, I had baked alot of GF items and people scarfed them up. They didn't eat their own baking until ours was gone, which left me to do additional baking for the boys. That part was a good thing because my kids liked that others like the GF pies, etc. > >  > > I am surprised that no one at least called me to ask if it was ok. They are my in-laws and not my own family and I think that is part of it. My mom and sister have knocked themselves out to bake gluten-free when we visit or when they visit us. They would not think of bringing glutened items into our home. > >  > > As they were packing to leave last night, I did invite them to take all of the left over baked goods home. I said, " The boys can't have them and Randy and I do not eat those things in front of them. "  Hint hint. > >  > > I am just looking for some clear perspective that I might not have. My inlaws have treated our children dufferently all along (the other grandchildren are children of their daughters) , so I am wondering if my feelings on this are just " carry over " from previous issues not related to the celiac. It is obvious that my husband thinks what they did is fine, but that would be a whole other chapter. > >  > > I would like your input on two things. Am I wrong to be annoyed at what they did? How would you handle it the next time? > >  > > Thanks, > >  > > in GA >  > >  >  > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2006 Report Share Posted January 1, 2006 Feelings are exactly what another poster said, neither right or wrong. Becky also makes a good point here about people not wanting to be empty handed when they show up (especially those that are staying!!), that would be their feelings. Either way, it may not have been the best choice of things your guest could bring, but I guess I don't think they were " wrong " in their gesture unless you specifically made clear to them that no gluten is allowed in your house. In something like Celiac, I've learned that people don't get the subtle hints so they may not understand the lengths you have to go to to be GF (we had a recent fondue incident that I had to explain to my husbands family that once you dip a pretzel into the chocolate, I'm out - they put the pretzels away!) and how their baked goods are a problem. My feeling would be that this was a live and learn lesson, but if next time under specific no gluten orders they still bring them, then it's a whole new ballgame! On Sun, 1 Jan 2006 00:54:42 -0600, richabec wrote > I had this happen tonight actually.  It does really irritate me!  >  > However, I don’t think they mean any real harm – I think they are just clueless.  My SIL brought a plate of baked gluten things and NO ONE ate any of them.  They only ate the desserts I provided. I think she just wanted to feel that she was contributing and not just being a bum by not bringing anything.  Even tho I had very specifically asked her not to bring anything – grr. I think usually these are well meaning goobers that just don’t understand what a sense of loss comes from seeing others enjoy what used to be favorite foods that are now out of reach.  >  > I truthfully am not even tempted – I felt so bad before that I have no desire to cheat.  But I do grieve for my kids – they really do feel sad when they see these forbidden things and I don’t want them to have to see them in our home.  Fortunately, they didn’t feel so bad when the cousins bad mouthed the purchased treats they brought and were thrilled to eat ours.  >  > I don’t have this happen often but I do find it both stressful and annoying when it does.  I do always set up the off limits things in a different area in case of contamination and watch it like a hawk.  >  > If it is a really crumbly item I put it up completely and tell them that I am uncomfortable taking the risk in my home.  I tell them we appreciate the thought, but we’ll save it for them to enjoy after they leave.  And I only intend to deal with it once with each group of people.  I will be more specific with these relatives next time and assign her a fruit salad if she feels awkward coming emptyhanded. >  > Becky >  > > > From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of ozonasusan@... > Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 12:25 PM > To: SillyYaks > Subject: People bringing glutened goods into your home >  > >  I just sent off 10 house guests who were here for 4 nights. My three boys ages 13, 11 and 6 have celiac. The guests were my husbands parents and all of his siblings and their children. The only other " children " in the group were ages 2, 20 and 22. We were celebrating my husbands parents 60th wedding anniversary - what an accomplishment! > >  > > At any rate, I was caught off guard when all of them, including the grandparents walked in with tons of cakes, homemade cookies, banana bread, pies, etc. - all of it glutened. They are well aware of our children's condition and all of the limitations. We have stayed at their homes since diagnosis and we have sent them articles and emails giving them info on the condition. We have shared with them how hard it is for the boys to be around all of the things they can't have and what an issue cross contamination is - you should see the CRUMBS on my counter, floor, etc. > >  > > Interestingly enough, I had baked alot of GF items and people scarfed them up. They didn't eat their own baking until ours was gone, which left me to do additional baking for the boys. That part was a good thing because my kids liked that others like the GF pies, etc. > >  > > I am surprised that no one at least called me to ask if it was ok. They are my in-laws and not my own family and I think that is part of it. My mom and sister have knocked themselves out to bake gluten-free when we visit or when they visit us. They would not think of bringing glutened items into our home. > >  > > As they were packing to leave last night, I did invite them to take all of the left over baked goods home. I said, " The boys can't have them and Randy and I do not eat those things in front of them. "  Hint hint. > >  > > I am just looking for some clear perspective that I might not have. My inlaws have treated our children dufferently all along (the other grandchildren are children of their daughters) , so I am wondering if my feelings on this are just " carry over " from previous issues not related to the celiac. It is obvious that my husband thinks what they did is fine, but that would be a whole other chapter. > >  > > I would like your input on two things. Am I wrong to be annoyed at what they did? How would you handle it the next time? > >  > > Thanks, > >  > > in GA >  > >  >  > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2006 Report Share Posted January 1, 2006 I thought I might drop a note to say that I have learned that many, many people don't have much empathy for anything they haven't experienced themselves. Does that make sense? I would be very upset if your situation happened to me, but my mom constantly reminds me that you cannot educate the ignorant. I try really hard not to get upset at other people's reactions to the things I try to explain to them.... It just makes me upset and sick over it, no one else. ..... San , CA --- lucky3668@... wrote: > Feelings are exactly what another poster said, > neither right or wrong. Becky also makes a good > point here about people not wanting to be empty > handed when they show up (especially those that are > staying!!), that would be their feelings. Either > way, it may not have been the best choice of things > your guest could bring, but I guess I don't think > they were " wrong " in their gesture unless you > specifically made clear to them that no gluten is > allowed in your house. In something like Celiac, > I've learned that people don't get the subtle hints > so they may not understand the lengths you have to > go to to be GF (we had a recent fondue incident that > I had to explain to my husbands family that once you > dip a pretzel into the chocolate, I'm out - they put > the pretzels away!) and how their baked goods are a > problem. My feeling would be that this was a live > and learn lesson, but if next time under specific no > gluten orders they still bring them, then it's a > whole new ballgame! > > > > On Sun, 1 Jan 2006 00:54:42 -0600, richabec wrote > > I had this happen tonight actually.  It does > really irritate me!  > > > > >  > > > However, I don’t think they mean any real harm – I > think they are just clueless.  My SIL brought a > plate of baked gluten things and NO ONE ate any of > them.  They only ate the desserts I provided. I > think she just wanted to feel that she was > contributing and not just being a bum by not > bringing anything.  Even tho I had very specifically > asked her not to bring anything – grr. I think > usually these are well meaning goobers that just > don’t understand what a sense of loss comes from > seeing others enjoy what used to be favorite foods > that are now out of reach.  > > > > >  > > > I truthfully am not even tempted – I felt so bad > before that I have no desire to cheat.  But I do > grieve for my kids – they really do feel sad when > they see these forbidden things and I don’t want > them to have to see them in our home.  Fortunately, > they didn’t feel so bad when the cousins bad mouthed > the purchased treats they brought and were thrilled > to eat ours.  > > > > >  > > > I don’t have this happen often but I do find it > both stressful and annoying when it does.  I do > always set up the off limits things in a different > area in case of contamination and watch it like a > hawk.  > > > > >  > > > If it is a really crumbly item I put it up > completely and tell them that I am uncomfortable > taking the risk in my home.  I tell them we > appreciate the thought, but we’ll save it for them > to enjoy after they leave.  And I only intend to > deal with it once with each group of people.  I will > be more specific with these relatives next time and > assign her a fruit salad if she feels awkward coming > emptyhanded. > > > > >  > > > Becky > > > > >  > > > > > > > > From: SillyYaks > [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of > ozonasusan@... > > Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 12:25 PM > > To: SillyYaks > > Subject: People bringing glutened > goods into your home > > > > >  > > > > >  I just sent off 10 house guests who were here for > 4 nights. My three boys ages 13, 11 and 6 have > celiac. The guests were my husbands parents and all > of his siblings and their children. The only other > " children " in the group were ages 2, 20 and 22. We > were celebrating my husbands parents 60th wedding > anniversary - what an accomplishment! > > > > >  > > > > > At any rate, I was caught off guard when all of > them, including the grandparents walked in with tons > of cakes, homemade cookies, banana bread, pies, etc. > - all of it glutened. They are well aware of our > children's condition and all of the limitations. We > have stayed at their homes since diagnosis and we > have sent them articles and emails giving them info > on the condition. We have shared with them how hard > it is for the boys to be around all of the things > they can't have and what an issue cross > contamination is - you should see the CRUMBS on my > counter, floor, etc. > > > > >  > > > > > Interestingly enough, I had baked alot of GF items > and people scarfed them up. They didn't eat their > own baking until ours was gone, which left me to do > additional baking for the boys. That part was a > good thing because my kids liked that others like > the GF pies, etc. > > > > >  > > > > > I am surprised that no one at least called me to > ask if it was ok. They are my in-laws and not my > own family and I think that is part of it. My mom > and sister have knocked themselves out to bake > gluten-free when we visit or when they visit us. > They would not think of bringing glutened items into > our home. > > > > >  > > > > > As they were packing to leave last night, I did > invite them to take all of the left over baked goods > home. I said, " The boys can't have them and Randy > and I do not eat those things in front of them. "  > Hint hint. > > > > >  > > > > > I am just looking for some clear perspective that > I might not have. My inlaws have treated our > children dufferently all along (the other > grandchildren are children of their daughters) , so > I am wondering if my feelings on this are just > " carry over " from previous issues not related to the > celiac. It is obvious that my husband thinks what > they did is fine, but that would be a whole other > chapter. > > > > >  > > > > > I would like your input on two things. Am I wrong > to be annoyed at what they did? How would you > handle it the next time? > > > > >  > > > > > Thanks, > > > > >  > > > > > in GA > > >  > > === message truncated === Lee Manes San , CA __________________________________ Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2006 Report Share Posted January 1, 2006 I thought I might drop a note to say that I have learned that many, many people don't have much empathy for anything they haven't experienced themselves. Does that make sense? I would be very upset if your situation happened to me, but my mom constantly reminds me that you cannot educate the ignorant. I try really hard not to get upset at other people's reactions to the things I try to explain to them.... It just makes me upset and sick over it, no one else. ..... San , CA --- lucky3668@... wrote: > Feelings are exactly what another poster said, > neither right or wrong. Becky also makes a good > point here about people not wanting to be empty > handed when they show up (especially those that are > staying!!), that would be their feelings. Either > way, it may not have been the best choice of things > your guest could bring, but I guess I don't think > they were " wrong " in their gesture unless you > specifically made clear to them that no gluten is > allowed in your house. In something like Celiac, > I've learned that people don't get the subtle hints > so they may not understand the lengths you have to > go to to be GF (we had a recent fondue incident that > I had to explain to my husbands family that once you > dip a pretzel into the chocolate, I'm out - they put > the pretzels away!) and how their baked goods are a > problem. My feeling would be that this was a live > and learn lesson, but if next time under specific no > gluten orders they still bring them, then it's a > whole new ballgame! > > > > On Sun, 1 Jan 2006 00:54:42 -0600, richabec wrote > > I had this happen tonight actually.  It does > really irritate me!  > > > > >  > > > However, I don’t think they mean any real harm – I > think they are just clueless.  My SIL brought a > plate of baked gluten things and NO ONE ate any of > them.  They only ate the desserts I provided. I > think she just wanted to feel that she was > contributing and not just being a bum by not > bringing anything.  Even tho I had very specifically > asked her not to bring anything – grr. I think > usually these are well meaning goobers that just > don’t understand what a sense of loss comes from > seeing others enjoy what used to be favorite foods > that are now out of reach.  > > > > >  > > > I truthfully am not even tempted – I felt so bad > before that I have no desire to cheat.  But I do > grieve for my kids – they really do feel sad when > they see these forbidden things and I don’t want > them to have to see them in our home.  Fortunately, > they didn’t feel so bad when the cousins bad mouthed > the purchased treats they brought and were thrilled > to eat ours.  > > > > >  > > > I don’t have this happen often but I do find it > both stressful and annoying when it does.  I do > always set up the off limits things in a different > area in case of contamination and watch it like a > hawk.  > > > > >  > > > If it is a really crumbly item I put it up > completely and tell them that I am uncomfortable > taking the risk in my home.  I tell them we > appreciate the thought, but we’ll save it for them > to enjoy after they leave.  And I only intend to > deal with it once with each group of people.  I will > be more specific with these relatives next time and > assign her a fruit salad if she feels awkward coming > emptyhanded. > > > > >  > > > Becky > > > > >  > > > > > > > > From: SillyYaks > [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of > ozonasusan@... > > Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 12:25 PM > > To: SillyYaks > > Subject: People bringing glutened > goods into your home > > > > >  > > > > >  I just sent off 10 house guests who were here for > 4 nights. My three boys ages 13, 11 and 6 have > celiac. The guests were my husbands parents and all > of his siblings and their children. The only other > " children " in the group were ages 2, 20 and 22. We > were celebrating my husbands parents 60th wedding > anniversary - what an accomplishment! > > > > >  > > > > > At any rate, I was caught off guard when all of > them, including the grandparents walked in with tons > of cakes, homemade cookies, banana bread, pies, etc. > - all of it glutened. They are well aware of our > children's condition and all of the limitations. We > have stayed at their homes since diagnosis and we > have sent them articles and emails giving them info > on the condition. We have shared with them how hard > it is for the boys to be around all of the things > they can't have and what an issue cross > contamination is - you should see the CRUMBS on my > counter, floor, etc. > > > > >  > > > > > Interestingly enough, I had baked alot of GF items > and people scarfed them up. They didn't eat their > own baking until ours was gone, which left me to do > additional baking for the boys. That part was a > good thing because my kids liked that others like > the GF pies, etc. > > > > >  > > > > > I am surprised that no one at least called me to > ask if it was ok. They are my in-laws and not my > own family and I think that is part of it. My mom > and sister have knocked themselves out to bake > gluten-free when we visit or when they visit us. > They would not think of bringing glutened items into > our home. > > > > >  > > > > > As they were packing to leave last night, I did > invite them to take all of the left over baked goods > home. I said, " The boys can't have them and Randy > and I do not eat those things in front of them. "  > Hint hint. > > > > >  > > > > > I am just looking for some clear perspective that > I might not have. My inlaws have treated our > children dufferently all along (the other > grandchildren are children of their daughters) , so > I am wondering if my feelings on this are just > " carry over " from previous issues not related to the > celiac. It is obvious that my husband thinks what > they did is fine, but that would be a whole other > chapter. > > > > >  > > > > > I would like your input on two things. Am I wrong > to be annoyed at what they did? How would you > handle it the next time? > > > > >  > > > > > Thanks, > > > > >  > > > > > in GA > > >  > > === message truncated === Lee Manes San , CA __________________________________ Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2006 Report Share Posted January 1, 2006 I thought I might drop a note to say that I have learned that many, many people don't have much empathy for anything they haven't experienced themselves. Does that make sense? I would be very upset if your situation happened to me, but my mom constantly reminds me that you cannot educate the ignorant. I try really hard not to get upset at other people's reactions to the things I try to explain to them.... It just makes me upset and sick over it, no one else. ..... San , CA --- lucky3668@... wrote: > Feelings are exactly what another poster said, > neither right or wrong. Becky also makes a good > point here about people not wanting to be empty > handed when they show up (especially those that are > staying!!), that would be their feelings. Either > way, it may not have been the best choice of things > your guest could bring, but I guess I don't think > they were " wrong " in their gesture unless you > specifically made clear to them that no gluten is > allowed in your house. In something like Celiac, > I've learned that people don't get the subtle hints > so they may not understand the lengths you have to > go to to be GF (we had a recent fondue incident that > I had to explain to my husbands family that once you > dip a pretzel into the chocolate, I'm out - they put > the pretzels away!) and how their baked goods are a > problem. My feeling would be that this was a live > and learn lesson, but if next time under specific no > gluten orders they still bring them, then it's a > whole new ballgame! > > > > On Sun, 1 Jan 2006 00:54:42 -0600, richabec wrote > > I had this happen tonight actually.  It does > really irritate me!  > > > > >  > > > However, I don’t think they mean any real harm – I > think they are just clueless.  My SIL brought a > plate of baked gluten things and NO ONE ate any of > them.  They only ate the desserts I provided. I > think she just wanted to feel that she was > contributing and not just being a bum by not > bringing anything.  Even tho I had very specifically > asked her not to bring anything – grr. I think > usually these are well meaning goobers that just > don’t understand what a sense of loss comes from > seeing others enjoy what used to be favorite foods > that are now out of reach.  > > > > >  > > > I truthfully am not even tempted – I felt so bad > before that I have no desire to cheat.  But I do > grieve for my kids – they really do feel sad when > they see these forbidden things and I don’t want > them to have to see them in our home.  Fortunately, > they didn’t feel so bad when the cousins bad mouthed > the purchased treats they brought and were thrilled > to eat ours.  > > > > >  > > > I don’t have this happen often but I do find it > both stressful and annoying when it does.  I do > always set up the off limits things in a different > area in case of contamination and watch it like a > hawk.  > > > > >  > > > If it is a really crumbly item I put it up > completely and tell them that I am uncomfortable > taking the risk in my home.  I tell them we > appreciate the thought, but we’ll save it for them > to enjoy after they leave.  And I only intend to > deal with it once with each group of people.  I will > be more specific with these relatives next time and > assign her a fruit salad if she feels awkward coming > emptyhanded. > > > > >  > > > Becky > > > > >  > > > > > > > > From: SillyYaks > [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of > ozonasusan@... > > Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 12:25 PM > > To: SillyYaks > > Subject: People bringing glutened > goods into your home > > > > >  > > > > >  I just sent off 10 house guests who were here for > 4 nights. My three boys ages 13, 11 and 6 have > celiac. The guests were my husbands parents and all > of his siblings and their children. The only other > " children " in the group were ages 2, 20 and 22. We > were celebrating my husbands parents 60th wedding > anniversary - what an accomplishment! > > > > >  > > > > > At any rate, I was caught off guard when all of > them, including the grandparents walked in with tons > of cakes, homemade cookies, banana bread, pies, etc. > - all of it glutened. They are well aware of our > children's condition and all of the limitations. We > have stayed at their homes since diagnosis and we > have sent them articles and emails giving them info > on the condition. We have shared with them how hard > it is for the boys to be around all of the things > they can't have and what an issue cross > contamination is - you should see the CRUMBS on my > counter, floor, etc. > > > > >  > > > > > Interestingly enough, I had baked alot of GF items > and people scarfed them up. They didn't eat their > own baking until ours was gone, which left me to do > additional baking for the boys. That part was a > good thing because my kids liked that others like > the GF pies, etc. > > > > >  > > > > > I am surprised that no one at least called me to > ask if it was ok. They are my in-laws and not my > own family and I think that is part of it. My mom > and sister have knocked themselves out to bake > gluten-free when we visit or when they visit us. > They would not think of bringing glutened items into > our home. > > > > >  > > > > > As they were packing to leave last night, I did > invite them to take all of the left over baked goods > home. I said, " The boys can't have them and Randy > and I do not eat those things in front of them. "  > Hint hint. > > > > >  > > > > > I am just looking for some clear perspective that > I might not have. My inlaws have treated our > children dufferently all along (the other > grandchildren are children of their daughters) , so > I am wondering if my feelings on this are just > " carry over " from previous issues not related to the > celiac. It is obvious that my husband thinks what > they did is fine, but that would be a whole other > chapter. > > > > >  > > > > > I would like your input on two things. Am I wrong > to be annoyed at what they did? How would you > handle it the next time? > > > > >  > > > > > Thanks, > > > > >  > > > > > in GA > > >  > > === message truncated === Lee Manes San , CA __________________________________ Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2006 Report Share Posted January 1, 2006 I always have guests who bring gluten items to my house. I just make sure that there are separate serving utensils for the gluten free items and tell everyone. I also keep the gluten free items on a different table. Never had a problem. > > Feelings are exactly what another poster said, neither right or wrong. Becky also makes a good point here about people not wanting to be empty handed when they show up (especially those that are staying!!), that would be their feelings. Either way, it may not have been the best choice of things your guest could bring, but I guess I don't think they were " wrong " in their gesture unless you specifically made clear to them that no gluten is allowed in your house. In something like Celiac, I've learned that people don't get the subtle hints so they may not understand the lengths you have to go to to be GF (we had a recent fondue incident that I had to explain to my husbands family that once you dip a pretzel into the chocolate, I'm out - they put the pretzels away!) and how their baked goods are a problem. My feeling would be that this was a live and learn lesson, but if next time under specific no gluten orders they still bring them, then it's a whole new ballgame! > > > > On Sun, 1 Jan 2006 00:54:42 -0600, richabec wrote > > I had this happen tonight actually. It does really irritate me! > > > > > > > > However, I don't think they mean any real harm – I think they are just clueless. My SIL brought a plate of baked gluten things and NO ONE ate any of them. They only ate the desserts I provided. I think she just wanted to feel that she was contributing and not just being a bum by not bringing anything. Even tho I had very specifically asked her not to bring anything – grr. I think usually these are well meaning goobers that just don't understand what a sense of loss comes from seeing others enjoy what used to be favorite foods that are now out of reach. > > > > > > > > I truthfully am not even tempted – I felt so bad before that I have no desire to cheat. But I do grieve for my kids – they really do feel sad when they see these forbidden things and I don't want them to have to see them in our home. Fortunately, they didn't feel so bad when the cousins bad mouthed the purchased treats they brought and were thrilled to eat ours. > > > > > > > > I don't have this happen often but I do find it both stressful and annoying when it does. I do always set up the off limits things in a different area in case of contamination and watch it like a hawk. > > > > > > > > If it is a really crumbly item I put it up completely and tell them that I am uncomfortable taking the risk in my home. I tell them we appreciate the thought, but we'll save it for them to enjoy after they leave. And I only intend to deal with it once with each group of people. I will be more specific with these relatives next time and assign her a fruit salad if she feels awkward coming emptyhanded. > > > > > > > > Becky > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of ozonasusan@a... > > Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 12:25 PM > > To: SillyYaks > > Subject: People bringing glutened goods into your home > > > > > > > > > > I just sent off 10 house guests who were here for 4 nights. My three boys ages 13, 11 and 6 have celiac. The guests were my husbands parents and all of his siblings and their children. The only other " children " in the group were ages 2, 20 and 22. We were celebrating my husbands parents 60th wedding anniversary - what an accomplishment! > > > > > > > > > > At any rate, I was caught off guard when all of them, including the grandparents walked in with tons of cakes, homemade cookies, banana bread, pies, etc. - all of it glutened. They are well aware of our children's condition and all of the limitations. We have stayed at their homes since diagnosis and we have sent them articles and emails giving them info on the condition. We have shared with them how hard it is for the boys to be around all of the things they can't have and what an issue cross contamination is - you should see the CRUMBS on my counter, floor, etc. > > > > > > > > > > Interestingly enough, I had baked alot of GF items and people scarfed them up. They didn't eat their own baking until ours was gone, which left me to do additional baking for the boys. That part was a good thing because my kids liked that others like the GF pies, etc. > > > > > > > > > > I am surprised that no one at least called me to ask if it was ok. They are my in-laws and not my own family and I think that is part of it. My mom and sister have knocked themselves out to bake gluten-free when we visit or when they visit us. They would not think of bringing glutened items into our home. > > > > > > > > > > As they were packing to leave last night, I did invite them to take all of the left over baked goods home. I said, " The boys can't have them and Randy and I do not eat those things in front of them. " Hint hint. > > > > > > > > > > I am just looking for some clear perspective that I might not have. My inlaws have treated our children dufferently all along (the other grandchildren are children of their daughters) , so I am wondering if my feelings on this are just " carry over " from previous issues not related to the celiac. It is obvious that my husband thinks what they did is fine, but that would be a whole other chapter. > > > > > > > > > > I would like your input on two things. Am I wrong to be annoyed at what they did? How would you handle it the next time? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > in GA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2006 Report Share Posted January 1, 2006 I always have guests who bring gluten items to my house. I just make sure that there are separate serving utensils for the gluten free items and tell everyone. I also keep the gluten free items on a different table. Never had a problem. > > Feelings are exactly what another poster said, neither right or wrong. Becky also makes a good point here about people not wanting to be empty handed when they show up (especially those that are staying!!), that would be their feelings. Either way, it may not have been the best choice of things your guest could bring, but I guess I don't think they were " wrong " in their gesture unless you specifically made clear to them that no gluten is allowed in your house. In something like Celiac, I've learned that people don't get the subtle hints so they may not understand the lengths you have to go to to be GF (we had a recent fondue incident that I had to explain to my husbands family that once you dip a pretzel into the chocolate, I'm out - they put the pretzels away!) and how their baked goods are a problem. My feeling would be that this was a live and learn lesson, but if next time under specific no gluten orders they still bring them, then it's a whole new ballgame! > > > > On Sun, 1 Jan 2006 00:54:42 -0600, richabec wrote > > I had this happen tonight actually. It does really irritate me! > > > > > > > > However, I don't think they mean any real harm – I think they are just clueless. My SIL brought a plate of baked gluten things and NO ONE ate any of them. They only ate the desserts I provided. I think she just wanted to feel that she was contributing and not just being a bum by not bringing anything. Even tho I had very specifically asked her not to bring anything – grr. I think usually these are well meaning goobers that just don't understand what a sense of loss comes from seeing others enjoy what used to be favorite foods that are now out of reach. > > > > > > > > I truthfully am not even tempted – I felt so bad before that I have no desire to cheat. But I do grieve for my kids – they really do feel sad when they see these forbidden things and I don't want them to have to see them in our home. Fortunately, they didn't feel so bad when the cousins bad mouthed the purchased treats they brought and were thrilled to eat ours. > > > > > > > > I don't have this happen often but I do find it both stressful and annoying when it does. I do always set up the off limits things in a different area in case of contamination and watch it like a hawk. > > > > > > > > If it is a really crumbly item I put it up completely and tell them that I am uncomfortable taking the risk in my home. I tell them we appreciate the thought, but we'll save it for them to enjoy after they leave. And I only intend to deal with it once with each group of people. I will be more specific with these relatives next time and assign her a fruit salad if she feels awkward coming emptyhanded. > > > > > > > > Becky > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of ozonasusan@a... > > Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 12:25 PM > > To: SillyYaks > > Subject: People bringing glutened goods into your home > > > > > > > > > > I just sent off 10 house guests who were here for 4 nights. My three boys ages 13, 11 and 6 have celiac. The guests were my husbands parents and all of his siblings and their children. The only other " children " in the group were ages 2, 20 and 22. We were celebrating my husbands parents 60th wedding anniversary - what an accomplishment! > > > > > > > > > > At any rate, I was caught off guard when all of them, including the grandparents walked in with tons of cakes, homemade cookies, banana bread, pies, etc. - all of it glutened. They are well aware of our children's condition and all of the limitations. We have stayed at their homes since diagnosis and we have sent them articles and emails giving them info on the condition. We have shared with them how hard it is for the boys to be around all of the things they can't have and what an issue cross contamination is - you should see the CRUMBS on my counter, floor, etc. > > > > > > > > > > Interestingly enough, I had baked alot of GF items and people scarfed them up. They didn't eat their own baking until ours was gone, which left me to do additional baking for the boys. That part was a good thing because my kids liked that others like the GF pies, etc. > > > > > > > > > > I am surprised that no one at least called me to ask if it was ok. They are my in-laws and not my own family and I think that is part of it. My mom and sister have knocked themselves out to bake gluten-free when we visit or when they visit us. They would not think of bringing glutened items into our home. > > > > > > > > > > As they were packing to leave last night, I did invite them to take all of the left over baked goods home. I said, " The boys can't have them and Randy and I do not eat those things in front of them. " Hint hint. > > > > > > > > > > I am just looking for some clear perspective that I might not have. My inlaws have treated our children dufferently all along (the other grandchildren are children of their daughters) , so I am wondering if my feelings on this are just " carry over " from previous issues not related to the celiac. It is obvious that my husband thinks what they did is fine, but that would be a whole other chapter. > > > > > > > > > > I would like your input on two things. Am I wrong to be annoyed at what they did? How would you handle it the next time? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > in GA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2006 Report Share Posted January 1, 2006 I always have guests who bring gluten items to my house. I just make sure that there are separate serving utensils for the gluten free items and tell everyone. I also keep the gluten free items on a different table. Never had a problem. > > Feelings are exactly what another poster said, neither right or wrong. Becky also makes a good point here about people not wanting to be empty handed when they show up (especially those that are staying!!), that would be their feelings. Either way, it may not have been the best choice of things your guest could bring, but I guess I don't think they were " wrong " in their gesture unless you specifically made clear to them that no gluten is allowed in your house. In something like Celiac, I've learned that people don't get the subtle hints so they may not understand the lengths you have to go to to be GF (we had a recent fondue incident that I had to explain to my husbands family that once you dip a pretzel into the chocolate, I'm out - they put the pretzels away!) and how their baked goods are a problem. My feeling would be that this was a live and learn lesson, but if next time under specific no gluten orders they still bring them, then it's a whole new ballgame! > > > > On Sun, 1 Jan 2006 00:54:42 -0600, richabec wrote > > I had this happen tonight actually. It does really irritate me! > > > > > > > > However, I don't think they mean any real harm – I think they are just clueless. My SIL brought a plate of baked gluten things and NO ONE ate any of them. They only ate the desserts I provided. I think she just wanted to feel that she was contributing and not just being a bum by not bringing anything. Even tho I had very specifically asked her not to bring anything – grr. I think usually these are well meaning goobers that just don't understand what a sense of loss comes from seeing others enjoy what used to be favorite foods that are now out of reach. > > > > > > > > I truthfully am not even tempted – I felt so bad before that I have no desire to cheat. But I do grieve for my kids – they really do feel sad when they see these forbidden things and I don't want them to have to see them in our home. Fortunately, they didn't feel so bad when the cousins bad mouthed the purchased treats they brought and were thrilled to eat ours. > > > > > > > > I don't have this happen often but I do find it both stressful and annoying when it does. I do always set up the off limits things in a different area in case of contamination and watch it like a hawk. > > > > > > > > If it is a really crumbly item I put it up completely and tell them that I am uncomfortable taking the risk in my home. I tell them we appreciate the thought, but we'll save it for them to enjoy after they leave. And I only intend to deal with it once with each group of people. I will be more specific with these relatives next time and assign her a fruit salad if she feels awkward coming emptyhanded. > > > > > > > > Becky > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of ozonasusan@a... > > Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 12:25 PM > > To: SillyYaks > > Subject: People bringing glutened goods into your home > > > > > > > > > > I just sent off 10 house guests who were here for 4 nights. My three boys ages 13, 11 and 6 have celiac. The guests were my husbands parents and all of his siblings and their children. The only other " children " in the group were ages 2, 20 and 22. We were celebrating my husbands parents 60th wedding anniversary - what an accomplishment! > > > > > > > > > > At any rate, I was caught off guard when all of them, including the grandparents walked in with tons of cakes, homemade cookies, banana bread, pies, etc. - all of it glutened. They are well aware of our children's condition and all of the limitations. We have stayed at their homes since diagnosis and we have sent them articles and emails giving them info on the condition. We have shared with them how hard it is for the boys to be around all of the things they can't have and what an issue cross contamination is - you should see the CRUMBS on my counter, floor, etc. > > > > > > > > > > Interestingly enough, I had baked alot of GF items and people scarfed them up. They didn't eat their own baking until ours was gone, which left me to do additional baking for the boys. That part was a good thing because my kids liked that others like the GF pies, etc. > > > > > > > > > > I am surprised that no one at least called me to ask if it was ok. They are my in-laws and not my own family and I think that is part of it. My mom and sister have knocked themselves out to bake gluten-free when we visit or when they visit us. They would not think of bringing glutened items into our home. > > > > > > > > > > As they were packing to leave last night, I did invite them to take all of the left over baked goods home. I said, " The boys can't have them and Randy and I do not eat those things in front of them. " Hint hint. > > > > > > > > > > I am just looking for some clear perspective that I might not have. My inlaws have treated our children dufferently all along (the other grandchildren are children of their daughters) , so I am wondering if my feelings on this are just " carry over " from previous issues not related to the celiac. It is obvious that my husband thinks what they did is fine, but that would be a whole other chapter. > > > > > > > > > > I would like your input on two things. Am I wrong to be annoyed at what they did? How would you handle it the next time? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > in GA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2006 Report Share Posted January 3, 2006 , I would have felt annoyed as well. And I wouldn't have let them eat it in the house. But I think it is a case of people not making their wishes clearly know. Maybe they are being inconsiderate, but maybe the thought just never crossed their mind. So just speak with them about it before next time. Follow-up next time you speak with them (don't wait until right before the next visit.) Tell them you enjoyed having them there, etc. but that next time would they mind not bringing any gluten food as you noticed crumbs get everywhere and its a health risk for your family. Ciara <<Am I wrong to be annoyed at what they did? How would you handle it the next time? Thanks, in GA>> Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2006 Report Share Posted January 3, 2006 , I would have felt annoyed as well. And I wouldn't have let them eat it in the house. But I think it is a case of people not making their wishes clearly know. Maybe they are being inconsiderate, but maybe the thought just never crossed their mind. So just speak with them about it before next time. Follow-up next time you speak with them (don't wait until right before the next visit.) Tell them you enjoyed having them there, etc. but that next time would they mind not bringing any gluten food as you noticed crumbs get everywhere and its a health risk for your family. Ciara <<Am I wrong to be annoyed at what they did? How would you handle it the next time? Thanks, in GA>> Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2006 Report Share Posted January 3, 2006 My thought doesn't seem to flow with the others, but I guess that's why it's important to post it. We just got back from my parents house where we had the "extneded family Christmas." My son has been GF for a year and a half now, and he just turned 4. The first family gathering that we had, my aunt (who loves to cook) brought all of her traditional goodies. Gluten-filled of course. I was immediately irritated and felt so sad for my son....and I almost said something. My mom had carefully made gf things for my son, and was careful to label everything. But, still, I was upset. When we got home, and I got thinking about it I realized that while it's hard for my son to be around all the yummy looking things he can't have, he also had many, many yummy things he COULD have. And his whole life is going to be about being around yummy looking things he can't have. So, whether at home or "out in the wild" he may as well get used to not being able to have it. He's not being deprived, he's just got to eat differently. So, this year when we all got together, and he's older and more aware of the differences, I wasn't surprised nor was I mad when all the gluten-filled foods came out. And even when he asked and was denied something, I didn't feel bad. And you know what? My reaction did volums for his reaction. I just said, "Nope, you can't have that. It has gluten in it. But here, you can have this, this, this or this...." and he happily chose what he could have and off he went. So, while it sucks that they paraded in with a bunch of stuff, and potentially contaminated the whole space, I would chalk it up to them (a) just not getting it (they don't live in the situation, and therefore don't realize the cross-contamination issues...face it, neither did any of us until thrust into this situation head first...) and ( thinking that they kids just didn't have to eat it. They probably knew you'd have a bunch of GF stuff for your kids. Next time either plainly state you will be taking care of all the food for the gathering. Or, assign people things to bring ("TO avoid duplication"...that's always a good excuse...) and then say can you bring XYZ brand of HJK bc that's a safe brand for the whole famly to eat (and then have it on hand yourself if it's crucial, just in case they still don't comply.) I don't want to make light of your feelings, we all have been there and feelings are legitimate no matter what they are bc they are what YOU are feeling...there is no right or wrong, there just is. But sometimes having a different outlook makes all the difference. I figure if my son can get used to his reality, and do it in a controlled environment like our home and our family's home, then life will be that much easier in the "real world" when I"m not there to protect him. From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of ozonasusan@...Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 1:25 PMTo: SillyYaks Subject: People bringing glutened goods into your home I just sent off 10 house guests who were here for 4 nights. My three boys ages 13, 11 and 6 have celiac. The guests were my husbands parents and all of his siblings and their children. The only other "children" in the group were ages 2, 20 and 22. We were celebrating my husbands parents 60th wedding anniversary - what an accomplishment! At any rate, I was caught off guard when all of them, including the grandparents walked in with tons of cakes, homemade cookies, banana bread, pies, etc. - all of it glutened. They are well aware of our children's condition and all of the limitations. We have stayed at their homes since diagnosis and we have sent them articles and emails giving them info on the condition. We have shared with them how hard it is for the boys to be around all of the things they can't have and what an issue cross contamination is - you should see the CRUMBS on my counter, floor, etc. Interestingly enough, I had baked alot of GF items and people scarfed them up. They didn't eat their own baking until ours was gone, which left me to do additional baking for the boys. That part was a good thing because my kids liked that others like the GF pies, etc. I am surprised that no one at least called me to ask if it was ok. They are my in-laws and not my own family and I think that is part of it. My mom and sister have knocked themselves out to bake gluten-free when we visit or when they visit us. They would not think of bringing glutened items into our home. As they were packing to leave last night, I did invite them to take all of the left over baked goods home. I said, "The boys can't have them and Randy and I do not eat those things in front of them." Hint hint. I am just looking for some clear perspective that I might not have. My inlaws have treated our children dufferently all along (the other grandchildren are children of their daughters) , so I am wondering if my feelings on this are just "carry over" from previous issues not related to the celiac. It is obvious that my husband thinks what they did is fine, but that would be a whole other chapter. I would like your input on two things. Am I wrong to be annoyed at what they did? How would you handle it the next time? Thanks, in GA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2006 Report Share Posted January 3, 2006 My thought doesn't seem to flow with the others, but I guess that's why it's important to post it. We just got back from my parents house where we had the "extneded family Christmas." My son has been GF for a year and a half now, and he just turned 4. The first family gathering that we had, my aunt (who loves to cook) brought all of her traditional goodies. Gluten-filled of course. I was immediately irritated and felt so sad for my son....and I almost said something. My mom had carefully made gf things for my son, and was careful to label everything. But, still, I was upset. When we got home, and I got thinking about it I realized that while it's hard for my son to be around all the yummy looking things he can't have, he also had many, many yummy things he COULD have. And his whole life is going to be about being around yummy looking things he can't have. So, whether at home or "out in the wild" he may as well get used to not being able to have it. He's not being deprived, he's just got to eat differently. So, this year when we all got together, and he's older and more aware of the differences, I wasn't surprised nor was I mad when all the gluten-filled foods came out. And even when he asked and was denied something, I didn't feel bad. And you know what? My reaction did volums for his reaction. I just said, "Nope, you can't have that. It has gluten in it. But here, you can have this, this, this or this...." and he happily chose what he could have and off he went. So, while it sucks that they paraded in with a bunch of stuff, and potentially contaminated the whole space, I would chalk it up to them (a) just not getting it (they don't live in the situation, and therefore don't realize the cross-contamination issues...face it, neither did any of us until thrust into this situation head first...) and ( thinking that they kids just didn't have to eat it. They probably knew you'd have a bunch of GF stuff for your kids. Next time either plainly state you will be taking care of all the food for the gathering. Or, assign people things to bring ("TO avoid duplication"...that's always a good excuse...) and then say can you bring XYZ brand of HJK bc that's a safe brand for the whole famly to eat (and then have it on hand yourself if it's crucial, just in case they still don't comply.) I don't want to make light of your feelings, we all have been there and feelings are legitimate no matter what they are bc they are what YOU are feeling...there is no right or wrong, there just is. But sometimes having a different outlook makes all the difference. I figure if my son can get used to his reality, and do it in a controlled environment like our home and our family's home, then life will be that much easier in the "real world" when I"m not there to protect him. From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of ozonasusan@...Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 1:25 PMTo: SillyYaks Subject: People bringing glutened goods into your home I just sent off 10 house guests who were here for 4 nights. My three boys ages 13, 11 and 6 have celiac. The guests were my husbands parents and all of his siblings and their children. The only other "children" in the group were ages 2, 20 and 22. We were celebrating my husbands parents 60th wedding anniversary - what an accomplishment! At any rate, I was caught off guard when all of them, including the grandparents walked in with tons of cakes, homemade cookies, banana bread, pies, etc. - all of it glutened. They are well aware of our children's condition and all of the limitations. We have stayed at their homes since diagnosis and we have sent them articles and emails giving them info on the condition. We have shared with them how hard it is for the boys to be around all of the things they can't have and what an issue cross contamination is - you should see the CRUMBS on my counter, floor, etc. Interestingly enough, I had baked alot of GF items and people scarfed them up. They didn't eat their own baking until ours was gone, which left me to do additional baking for the boys. That part was a good thing because my kids liked that others like the GF pies, etc. I am surprised that no one at least called me to ask if it was ok. They are my in-laws and not my own family and I think that is part of it. My mom and sister have knocked themselves out to bake gluten-free when we visit or when they visit us. They would not think of bringing glutened items into our home. As they were packing to leave last night, I did invite them to take all of the left over baked goods home. I said, "The boys can't have them and Randy and I do not eat those things in front of them." Hint hint. I am just looking for some clear perspective that I might not have. My inlaws have treated our children dufferently all along (the other grandchildren are children of their daughters) , so I am wondering if my feelings on this are just "carry over" from previous issues not related to the celiac. It is obvious that my husband thinks what they did is fine, but that would be a whole other chapter. I would like your input on two things. Am I wrong to be annoyed at what they did? How would you handle it the next time? Thanks, in GA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2006 Report Share Posted January 3, 2006 My thought doesn't seem to flow with the others, but I guess that's why it's important to post it. We just got back from my parents house where we had the "extneded family Christmas." My son has been GF for a year and a half now, and he just turned 4. The first family gathering that we had, my aunt (who loves to cook) brought all of her traditional goodies. Gluten-filled of course. I was immediately irritated and felt so sad for my son....and I almost said something. My mom had carefully made gf things for my son, and was careful to label everything. But, still, I was upset. When we got home, and I got thinking about it I realized that while it's hard for my son to be around all the yummy looking things he can't have, he also had many, many yummy things he COULD have. And his whole life is going to be about being around yummy looking things he can't have. So, whether at home or "out in the wild" he may as well get used to not being able to have it. He's not being deprived, he's just got to eat differently. So, this year when we all got together, and he's older and more aware of the differences, I wasn't surprised nor was I mad when all the gluten-filled foods came out. And even when he asked and was denied something, I didn't feel bad. And you know what? My reaction did volums for his reaction. I just said, "Nope, you can't have that. It has gluten in it. But here, you can have this, this, this or this...." and he happily chose what he could have and off he went. So, while it sucks that they paraded in with a bunch of stuff, and potentially contaminated the whole space, I would chalk it up to them (a) just not getting it (they don't live in the situation, and therefore don't realize the cross-contamination issues...face it, neither did any of us until thrust into this situation head first...) and ( thinking that they kids just didn't have to eat it. They probably knew you'd have a bunch of GF stuff for your kids. Next time either plainly state you will be taking care of all the food for the gathering. Or, assign people things to bring ("TO avoid duplication"...that's always a good excuse...) and then say can you bring XYZ brand of HJK bc that's a safe brand for the whole famly to eat (and then have it on hand yourself if it's crucial, just in case they still don't comply.) I don't want to make light of your feelings, we all have been there and feelings are legitimate no matter what they are bc they are what YOU are feeling...there is no right or wrong, there just is. But sometimes having a different outlook makes all the difference. I figure if my son can get used to his reality, and do it in a controlled environment like our home and our family's home, then life will be that much easier in the "real world" when I"m not there to protect him. From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of ozonasusan@...Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 1:25 PMTo: SillyYaks Subject: People bringing glutened goods into your home I just sent off 10 house guests who were here for 4 nights. My three boys ages 13, 11 and 6 have celiac. The guests were my husbands parents and all of his siblings and their children. The only other "children" in the group were ages 2, 20 and 22. We were celebrating my husbands parents 60th wedding anniversary - what an accomplishment! At any rate, I was caught off guard when all of them, including the grandparents walked in with tons of cakes, homemade cookies, banana bread, pies, etc. - all of it glutened. They are well aware of our children's condition and all of the limitations. We have stayed at their homes since diagnosis and we have sent them articles and emails giving them info on the condition. We have shared with them how hard it is for the boys to be around all of the things they can't have and what an issue cross contamination is - you should see the CRUMBS on my counter, floor, etc. Interestingly enough, I had baked alot of GF items and people scarfed them up. They didn't eat their own baking until ours was gone, which left me to do additional baking for the boys. That part was a good thing because my kids liked that others like the GF pies, etc. I am surprised that no one at least called me to ask if it was ok. They are my in-laws and not my own family and I think that is part of it. My mom and sister have knocked themselves out to bake gluten-free when we visit or when they visit us. They would not think of bringing glutened items into our home. As they were packing to leave last night, I did invite them to take all of the left over baked goods home. I said, "The boys can't have them and Randy and I do not eat those things in front of them." Hint hint. I am just looking for some clear perspective that I might not have. My inlaws have treated our children dufferently all along (the other grandchildren are children of their daughters) , so I am wondering if my feelings on this are just "carry over" from previous issues not related to the celiac. It is obvious that my husband thinks what they did is fine, but that would be a whole other chapter. I would like your input on two things. Am I wrong to be annoyed at what they did? How would you handle it the next time? Thanks, in GA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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