Feeling bad in the mornings

September 4, 2006

Can anyone tell me why people with Amalgam Illness feel particularly

awful in the mornings? It takes pretty much all day, or until mid

afternoon for my head to clear, and I feel best of all in the evening,

just before I go to bed. I am fully supporting my adrenals with

Prednisolone, and take 1 1/2 grains Armour (although I know this is not

a full dose yet) so I am addressing adrenals and thyroid. I have total

brain fog, a headache, and am sensitive to light. I had my amalgams

out nearly 3 months ago, and the mornings seem to have got worse,

rather than better. Is there anything I can do or take to help? I am

taking supplements as per Andy's recommendations.

thanks

Nicola

September 4, 2006

Hi Nicola,

I'm on the group to learn in support of my kids.

But I do know that if you eat your evening meals late (should eat by

8pm at the latest), your body spends the night trying to digest

food, then detox as well. Apparently we primarily detox at

night, this is when most cell regeneration also occurs.

We eat our evening meal at the crazy time of 5pm (due to having an

Angelman Syndrome child - who dictates everything). That said, it

means you just have a light snack of fruit later if hungry and the

body can " rest " at night.

The other big difference that I have found in recent months was in

going gluten-free. It has changed my life as far as energy in the

morning goes.

Hope you get some answers.

na

>

> Can anyone tell me why people with Amalgam Illness feel

particularly

> awful in the mornings? It takes pretty much all day, or until mid

> afternoon for my head to clear, and I feel best of all in the

evening,

> just before I go to bed. I am fully supporting my adrenals with

> Prednisolone, and take 1 1/2 grains Armour (although I know this

is not

> a full dose yet) so I am addressing adrenals and thyroid. I have

total

> brain fog, a headache, and am sensitive to light. I had my

amalgams

> out nearly 3 months ago, and the mornings seem to have got worse,

> rather than better. Is there anything I can do or take to help? I

am

> taking supplements as per Andy's recommendations.

>

> thanks

> Nicola

>

September 4, 2006

Hi Nicola,

I'm on the group to learn in support of my kids.

But I do know that if you eat your evening meals late (should eat by

8pm at the latest), your body spends the night trying to digest

food, then detox as well. Apparently we primarily detox at

night, this is when most cell regeneration also occurs.

We eat our evening meal at the crazy time of 5pm (due to having an

Angelman Syndrome child - who dictates everything). That said, it

means you just have a light snack of fruit later if hungry and the

body can " rest " at night.

The other big difference that I have found in recent months was in

going gluten-free. It has changed my life as far as energy in the

morning goes.

Hope you get some answers.

na

>

> Can anyone tell me why people with Amalgam Illness feel

particularly

> awful in the mornings? It takes pretty much all day, or until mid

> afternoon for my head to clear, and I feel best of all in the

evening,

> just before I go to bed. I am fully supporting my adrenals with

> Prednisolone, and take 1 1/2 grains Armour (although I know this

is not

> a full dose yet) so I am addressing adrenals and thyroid. I have

total

> brain fog, a headache, and am sensitive to light. I had my

amalgams

> out nearly 3 months ago, and the mornings seem to have got worse,

> rather than better. Is there anything I can do or take to help? I

am

> taking supplements as per Andy's recommendations.

>

> thanks

> Nicola

>

September 4, 2006

Hi Nicola,

I'm on the group to learn in support of my kids.

But I do know that if you eat your evening meals late (should eat by

8pm at the latest), your body spends the night trying to digest

food, then detox as well. Apparently we primarily detox at

night, this is when most cell regeneration also occurs.

We eat our evening meal at the crazy time of 5pm (due to having an

Angelman Syndrome child - who dictates everything). That said, it

means you just have a light snack of fruit later if hungry and the

body can " rest " at night.

The other big difference that I have found in recent months was in

going gluten-free. It has changed my life as far as energy in the

morning goes.

Hope you get some answers.

na

>

> Can anyone tell me why people with Amalgam Illness feel

particularly

> awful in the mornings? It takes pretty much all day, or until mid

> afternoon for my head to clear, and I feel best of all in the

evening,

> just before I go to bed. I am fully supporting my adrenals with

> Prednisolone, and take 1 1/2 grains Armour (although I know this

is not

> a full dose yet) so I am addressing adrenals and thyroid. I have

total

> brain fog, a headache, and am sensitive to light. I had my

amalgams

> out nearly 3 months ago, and the mornings seem to have got worse,

> rather than better. Is there anything I can do or take to help? I

am

> taking supplements as per Andy's recommendations.

>

> thanks

> Nicola

>

September 4, 2006

> >

> > Can anyone tell me why people with Amalgam Illness feel

> particularly

> > awful in the mornings? It takes pretty much all day, or until

mid

> > afternoon for my head to clear, and I feel best of all in the

> evening,

> > just before I go to bed. I am fully supporting my adrenals with

> > Prednisolone, and take 1 1/2 grains Armour (although I know this

> is not

> > a full dose yet) so I am addressing adrenals and thyroid. I have

> total

> > brain fog, a headache, and am sensitive to light. I had my

> amalgams

> > out nearly 3 months ago, and the mornings seem to have got

worse,

> > rather than better. Is there anything I can do or take to help?

I

> am

> > taking supplements as per Andy's recommendations.

> >

> > thanks

> > Nicola

> >

>

September 4, 2006

> >

> > Can anyone tell me why people with Amalgam Illness feel

> particularly

> > awful in the mornings? It takes pretty much all day, or until

mid

> > afternoon for my head to clear, and I feel best of all in the

> evening,

> > just before I go to bed. I am fully supporting my adrenals with

> > Prednisolone, and take 1 1/2 grains Armour (although I know this

> is not

> > a full dose yet) so I am addressing adrenals and thyroid. I have

> total

> > brain fog, a headache, and am sensitive to light. I had my

> amalgams

> > out nearly 3 months ago, and the mornings seem to have got

worse,

> > rather than better. Is there anything I can do or take to help?

I

> am

> > taking supplements as per Andy's recommendations.

> >

> > thanks

> > Nicola

> >

>

September 4, 2006

> >

> > Can anyone tell me why people with Amalgam Illness feel

> particularly

> > awful in the mornings? It takes pretty much all day, or until

mid

> > afternoon for my head to clear, and I feel best of all in the

> evening,

> > just before I go to bed. I am fully supporting my adrenals with

> > Prednisolone, and take 1 1/2 grains Armour (although I know this

> is not

> > a full dose yet) so I am addressing adrenals and thyroid. I have

> total

> > brain fog, a headache, and am sensitive to light. I had my

> amalgams

> > out nearly 3 months ago, and the mornings seem to have got

worse,

> > rather than better. Is there anything I can do or take to help?

I

> am

> > taking supplements as per Andy's recommendations.

> >

> > thanks

> > Nicola

> >

>

September 4, 2006

>

> Can anyone tell me why people with Amalgam Illness feel particularly

> awful in the mornings?

That's a typical of adrenal fatigue syptom.

It takes pretty much all day, or until mid

> afternoon for my head to clear, and I feel best of all in the evening,

> just before I go to bed.

This is the same general trend for me.

I am fully supporting my adrenals with

> Prednisolone,

I'm not familiar with Prednisolone; I use Cortef.

What is the dose that you take? Do you take the largest dose on

waking and smaller doses throughout the day?

Is there a reason why you are using Prednisolone instead of Cortef?

and take 1 1/2 grains Armour (although I know this is not

> a full dose yet) so I am addressing adrenals and thyroid. I have total

> brain fog, a headache,

I seem to get a foggy brain and a headache when my sodium levels go

down (at least increasing salt intake helps to relieve these symptoms

for me). If salt tastes good to you that may be an indication that

you need some more.

It would be best to talk this over with the prescribing physician

because Prednisolone has some mineralcorticoid activity and because

the symptoms of low sodium and high sodium are similiar.

The way that I tell the difference is that I start retaining water

(puffing up) when my sodium levels are getting high, and cutting back

on sodium intake relieves this symptom.

> and am sensitive to light.

I was extremely light sensitive for years. Chelation seems to be what

has helped this symptom. I can drive without sunglasses now!

> I had my amalgams

> out nearly 3 months ago,

At three months you are at the beginning of the 'roller coaster ride'

when the body starts dumping mercury. Have you started to chelate

yet? Presumably chelation will help to alleviate some of the 'roller

coaster' symptoms.

J

and the mornings seem to have got worse,

> rather than better. Is there anything I can do or take to help? I am

> taking supplements as per Andy's recommendations.

>

> thanks

> Nicola

>

September 4, 2006

>

> Can anyone tell me why people with Amalgam Illness feel particularly

> awful in the mornings?

That's a typical of adrenal fatigue syptom.

It takes pretty much all day, or until mid

> afternoon for my head to clear, and I feel best of all in the evening,

> just before I go to bed.

This is the same general trend for me.

I am fully supporting my adrenals with

> Prednisolone,

I'm not familiar with Prednisolone; I use Cortef.

What is the dose that you take? Do you take the largest dose on

waking and smaller doses throughout the day?

Is there a reason why you are using Prednisolone instead of Cortef?

and take 1 1/2 grains Armour (although I know this is not

> a full dose yet) so I am addressing adrenals and thyroid. I have total

> brain fog, a headache,

I seem to get a foggy brain and a headache when my sodium levels go

down (at least increasing salt intake helps to relieve these symptoms

for me). If salt tastes good to you that may be an indication that

you need some more.

It would be best to talk this over with the prescribing physician

because Prednisolone has some mineralcorticoid activity and because

the symptoms of low sodium and high sodium are similiar.

The way that I tell the difference is that I start retaining water

(puffing up) when my sodium levels are getting high, and cutting back

on sodium intake relieves this symptom.

> and am sensitive to light.

I was extremely light sensitive for years. Chelation seems to be what

has helped this symptom. I can drive without sunglasses now!

> I had my amalgams

> out nearly 3 months ago,

At three months you are at the beginning of the 'roller coaster ride'

when the body starts dumping mercury. Have you started to chelate

yet? Presumably chelation will help to alleviate some of the 'roller

coaster' symptoms.

J

and the mornings seem to have got worse,

> rather than better. Is there anything I can do or take to help? I am

> taking supplements as per Andy's recommendations.

>

> thanks

> Nicola

>

September 4, 2006

>

> Can anyone tell me why people with Amalgam Illness feel particularly

> awful in the mornings?

That's a typical of adrenal fatigue syptom.

It takes pretty much all day, or until mid

> afternoon for my head to clear, and I feel best of all in the evening,

> just before I go to bed.

This is the same general trend for me.

I am fully supporting my adrenals with

> Prednisolone,

I'm not familiar with Prednisolone; I use Cortef.

What is the dose that you take? Do you take the largest dose on

waking and smaller doses throughout the day?

Is there a reason why you are using Prednisolone instead of Cortef?

and take 1 1/2 grains Armour (although I know this is not

> a full dose yet) so I am addressing adrenals and thyroid. I have total

> brain fog, a headache,

I seem to get a foggy brain and a headache when my sodium levels go

down (at least increasing salt intake helps to relieve these symptoms

for me). If salt tastes good to you that may be an indication that

you need some more.

It would be best to talk this over with the prescribing physician

because Prednisolone has some mineralcorticoid activity and because

the symptoms of low sodium and high sodium are similiar.

The way that I tell the difference is that I start retaining water

(puffing up) when my sodium levels are getting high, and cutting back

on sodium intake relieves this symptom.

> and am sensitive to light.

I was extremely light sensitive for years. Chelation seems to be what

has helped this symptom. I can drive without sunglasses now!

> I had my amalgams

> out nearly 3 months ago,

At three months you are at the beginning of the 'roller coaster ride'

when the body starts dumping mercury. Have you started to chelate

yet? Presumably chelation will help to alleviate some of the 'roller

coaster' symptoms.

J

and the mornings seem to have got worse,

> rather than better. Is there anything I can do or take to help? I am

> taking supplements as per Andy's recommendations.

>

> thanks

> Nicola

>

September 4, 2006

>

> Can anyone tell me why people with Amalgam Illness feel

particularly

> awful in the mornings? It takes pretty much all day, or until mid

> afternoon for my head to clear, and I feel best of all in the

evening,

> just before I go to bed

TK--- this is a common pattern.

I am fully supporting my adrenals with

> Prednisolone

TK--- How much and when ?

, and take 1 1/2 grains Armour (although I know this is not

> a full dose yet) so I am addressing adrenals and thyroid. I have

total

> brain fog, a headache, and am sensitive to light. I had my

amalgams

> out nearly 3 months ago, and the mornings seem to have got worse,

> rather than better. Is there anything I can do or take to help?

TK--- start chelating with low dose DMPS or DMSA, 12.5mg - check for

food allergins, gi pathogens and control them, B12 injections

I am

> taking supplements as per Andy's recommendations.

TK--- What are you taking ? How much and how often ?

>

> thanks

> Nicola

>

September 4, 2006

>

> Can anyone tell me why people with Amalgam Illness feel

particularly

> awful in the mornings? It takes pretty much all day, or until mid

> afternoon for my head to clear, and I feel best of all in the

evening,

> just before I go to bed

TK--- this is a common pattern.

I am fully supporting my adrenals with

> Prednisolone

TK--- How much and when ?

, and take 1 1/2 grains Armour (although I know this is not

> a full dose yet) so I am addressing adrenals and thyroid. I have

total

> brain fog, a headache, and am sensitive to light. I had my

amalgams

> out nearly 3 months ago, and the mornings seem to have got worse,

> rather than better. Is there anything I can do or take to help?

TK--- start chelating with low dose DMPS or DMSA, 12.5mg - check for

food allergins, gi pathogens and control them, B12 injections

I am

> taking supplements as per Andy's recommendations.

TK--- What are you taking ? How much and how often ?

>

> thanks

> Nicola

>

September 4, 2006

>

> Can anyone tell me why people with Amalgam Illness feel

particularly

> awful in the mornings? It takes pretty much all day, or until mid

> afternoon for my head to clear, and I feel best of all in the

evening,

> just before I go to bed

TK--- this is a common pattern.

I am fully supporting my adrenals with

> Prednisolone

TK--- How much and when ?

, and take 1 1/2 grains Armour (although I know this is not

> a full dose yet) so I am addressing adrenals and thyroid. I have

total

> brain fog, a headache, and am sensitive to light. I had my

amalgams

> out nearly 3 months ago, and the mornings seem to have got worse,

> rather than better. Is there anything I can do or take to help?

TK--- start chelating with low dose DMPS or DMSA, 12.5mg - check for

food allergins, gi pathogens and control them, B12 injections

I am

> taking supplements as per Andy's recommendations.

TK--- What are you taking ? How much and how often ?

>

> thanks

> Nicola

>

September 4, 2006

> >

> > Can anyone tell me why people with Amalgam Illness feel particularly

> > awful in the mornings?

>

This is the type of thing that I type in the mornings:

>

> That's a typical of adrenal fatigue syptom.

>

What I meant:

That's typical of adrenal fatigue.

or

That's a typical adrenal fatigue symptom.

J

(I have to laugh at myself)

September 4, 2006

> >

> > Can anyone tell me why people with Amalgam Illness feel particularly

> > awful in the mornings?

>

This is the type of thing that I type in the mornings:

>

> That's a typical of adrenal fatigue syptom.

>

What I meant:

That's typical of adrenal fatigue.

or

That's a typical adrenal fatigue symptom.

J

(I have to laugh at myself)

September 4, 2006

> >

> > Can anyone tell me why people with Amalgam Illness feel particularly

> > awful in the mornings?

>

This is the type of thing that I type in the mornings:

>

> That's a typical of adrenal fatigue syptom.

>

What I meant:

That's typical of adrenal fatigue.

or

That's a typical adrenal fatigue symptom.

J

(I have to laugh at myself)

September 5, 2006

I must comment that I felt worse about the three month time frame of

post removal. I posted here and you can probably search the old

posts. Everyone recomended that I begin chelation. Your body really

begins to dump the metals around three months, since it realized

that the daily source is finally gone and not returning.

I don't know if you have thought of using some low dose dmsa? This

helped me a lot along with the adrenal support. It seems that my

adrenals were bad before removal but got worse after removal. I am

using adrenal cortex extract for mine. Not sure on the prednisolone.

If not chelating yet, might consider it to remove some of what is

being released and causing the fog. Also, could yeast be a problem

for you? This can cause fog etc too, and yeast can become a problem

when metals are passing out.

> > >

> > > Can anyone tell me why people with Amalgam Illness feel

> > particularly

> > > awful in the mornings? It takes pretty much all day, or until

> mid

> > > afternoon for my head to clear, and I feel best of all in the

> > evening,

> > > just before I go to bed. I am fully supporting my adrenals

with

> > > Prednisolone, and take 1 1/2 grains Armour (although I know

this

> > is not

> > > a full dose yet) so I am addressing adrenals and thyroid. I

have

> > total

> > > brain fog, a headache, and am sensitive to light. I had my

> > amalgams

> > > out nearly 3 months ago, and the mornings seem to have got

> worse,

> > > rather than better. Is there anything I can do or take to

help?

> I

> > am

> > > taking supplements as per Andy's recommendations.

> > >

> > > thanks

> > > Nicola

> > >

> >

>

September 5, 2006

I must comment that I felt worse about the three month time frame of

post removal. I posted here and you can probably search the old

posts. Everyone recomended that I begin chelation. Your body really

begins to dump the metals around three months, since it realized

that the daily source is finally gone and not returning.

I don't know if you have thought of using some low dose dmsa? This

helped me a lot along with the adrenal support. It seems that my

adrenals were bad before removal but got worse after removal. I am

using adrenal cortex extract for mine. Not sure on the prednisolone.

If not chelating yet, might consider it to remove some of what is

being released and causing the fog. Also, could yeast be a problem

for you? This can cause fog etc too, and yeast can become a problem

when metals are passing out.

> > >

> > > Can anyone tell me why people with Amalgam Illness feel

> > particularly

> > > awful in the mornings? It takes pretty much all day, or until

> mid

> > > afternoon for my head to clear, and I feel best of all in the

> > evening,

> > > just before I go to bed. I am fully supporting my adrenals

with

> > > Prednisolone, and take 1 1/2 grains Armour (although I know

this

> > is not

> > > a full dose yet) so I am addressing adrenals and thyroid. I

have

> > total

> > > brain fog, a headache, and am sensitive to light. I had my

> > amalgams

> > > out nearly 3 months ago, and the mornings seem to have got

> worse,

> > > rather than better. Is there anything I can do or take to

help?

> I

> > am

> > > taking supplements as per Andy's recommendations.

> > >

> > > thanks

> > > Nicola

> > >

> >

>

September 6, 2006

Thanks Jan. Kind of reassuring to know that other people got worse

post amalgam removal. I guess it was after two months for me, but

there was a lot going on then: we had a heatwave and I had to reduce

my Armour dose because my adrenals couldn't cope, despite being on a

full dose of Prednisolone. I was also taking too high a dose of

selenium (I realise now) which definitely did something to the

mercury (not sure what yet)and gave me very bad fluey feelings. It

was difficult to know what was due to what.

Anyway< I've now got my thyroid dose back up, and am taking less

selenium, so am feeling a little better. I just blew out of my

second round of DSMA halfway through, because I realised I was 50

minutes late. I seem to do OK on it, but it's very low dose (6mg).

Guess I'll have to leave it and start again in a week or so.

It seems every day is different, one day good, next day bad, which

drives me crazy a bit. How are you feeling now - any consistent

improvement?

Best

Nicola

-- In frequent-dose-chelation , " Jan "

wrote:

>

> I must comment that I felt worse about the three month time frame

of

> post removal. I posted here and you can probably search the old

> posts. Everyone recomended that I begin chelation. Your body really

> begins to dump the metals around three months, since it realized

> that the daily source is finally gone and not returning.

>

> I don't know if you have thought of using some low dose dmsa? This

> helped me a lot along with the adrenal support. It seems that my

> adrenals were bad before removal but got worse after removal. I am

> using adrenal cortex extract for mine. Not sure on the

prednisolone.

> If not chelating yet, might consider it to remove some of what is

> being released and causing the fog. Also, could yeast be a problem

> for you? This can cause fog etc too, and yeast can become a problem

> when metals are passing out.

>

> > > >>

September 6, 2006

Thanks Jan. Kind of reassuring to know that other people got worse

post amalgam removal. I guess it was after two months for me, but

there was a lot going on then: we had a heatwave and I had to reduce

my Armour dose because my adrenals couldn't cope, despite being on a

full dose of Prednisolone. I was also taking too high a dose of

selenium (I realise now) which definitely did something to the

mercury (not sure what yet)and gave me very bad fluey feelings. It

was difficult to know what was due to what.

Anyway< I've now got my thyroid dose back up, and am taking less

selenium, so am feeling a little better. I just blew out of my

second round of DSMA halfway through, because I realised I was 50

minutes late. I seem to do OK on it, but it's very low dose (6mg).

Guess I'll have to leave it and start again in a week or so.

It seems every day is different, one day good, next day bad, which

drives me crazy a bit. How are you feeling now - any consistent

improvement?

Best

Nicola

-- In frequent-dose-chelation , " Jan "

wrote:

>

> I must comment that I felt worse about the three month time frame

of

> post removal. I posted here and you can probably search the old

> posts. Everyone recomended that I begin chelation. Your body really

> begins to dump the metals around three months, since it realized

> that the daily source is finally gone and not returning.

>

> I don't know if you have thought of using some low dose dmsa? This

> helped me a lot along with the adrenal support. It seems that my

> adrenals were bad before removal but got worse after removal. I am

> using adrenal cortex extract for mine. Not sure on the

prednisolone.

> If not chelating yet, might consider it to remove some of what is

> being released and causing the fog. Also, could yeast be a problem

> for you? This can cause fog etc too, and yeast can become a problem

> when metals are passing out.

>

> > > >>

September 6, 2006

Each day is a challege for sure. I am also using a low dose of dsma,

only 12 mg. But better low and slow. Funny, you mention selenium

giving your problems. I have heard many people including myself say

that. It made me sicker, and I only recently starting taking a baby

dose. It does do something to mercury.

I still battle fatigue, some dizziness on occassion, but I have only

done four rounds of dmsa. the last one was the first time adding in

ALA. Go low with that too...I got back headaches because I dosed it

by weight, but when I used only 12mg it was find. I felt more

energetic while I was on it, but also kind of weird. Not sick but

just different. What has really helped me is adrenal cortex. I am

starting a thryoid support product as I have no doc to do the armour

or even one who will test. They keep telling me it is not that low.

Jerks! Anyway, patience, and lots of sweating...but yes you do start

to feel better, very gradually! I gotta watch the yeast though, it

seems to flare up anytime I miss a dose of GSE, and it make me

foggy. I just stared enzymes but notice after a meal, I get foggy on

them. So I may stop for a while.

>

> Thanks Jan. Kind of reassuring to know that other people got

worse

> post amalgam removal. I guess it was after two months for me, but

> there was a lot going on then: we had a heatwave and I had to

reduce

> my Armour dose because my adrenals couldn't cope, despite being on

a

> full dose of Prednisolone. I was also taking too high a dose of

> selenium (I realise now) which definitely did something to the

> mercury (not sure what yet)and gave me very bad fluey feelings.

It

> was difficult to know what was due to what.

>

> Anyway< I've now got my thyroid dose back up, and am taking less

> selenium, so am feeling a little better. I just blew out of my

> second round of DSMA halfway through, because I realised I was 50

> minutes late. I seem to do OK on it, but it's very low dose

(6mg).

> Guess I'll have to leave it and start again in a week or so.

>

> It seems every day is different, one day good, next day bad, which

> drives me crazy a bit. How are you feeling now - any consistent

> improvement?

>

> Best

> Nicola

>

> --

September 6, 2006