Re: Nurses working on Ambulances

October 7, 2004

Hafta ask.....why in god's name would a nurse do that? I have known several

who held dual certifications, but never one who worked on a ground

ambulance.

My wife looked into trying to get a medic cert from RN (for the vollie FD),

and it involved all the clinicals and passing the test, so she passed on it.

If I'm an RN, the last place I want to be in on an ambulance, and I would

imagine that any medical director who would let a nurse not having obtained

the training to be a medic work under his/her license, would need help....as

in " if you don't get help at charter, please get help somewhere " . The 2

fields are not interchangeable without the training.

magnetass sends

Nurses working on Ambulances

>

> Does anyone know if there is a TDH regulation regarding nurses

> working as medics on ambulances? Particularly, can a nurse work as a

> medic (i.e. EMT- or do they need to complete the skills and

> written test first for that level?

>

> If they can work as a medic, does the medical director need to

> create any special protocols for them?

>

> Thanks

>

October 7, 2004

Hafta ask.....why in god's name would a nurse do that? I have known several

who held dual certifications, but never one who worked on a ground

ambulance.

My wife looked into trying to get a medic cert from RN (for the vollie FD),

and it involved all the clinicals and passing the test, so she passed on it.

If I'm an RN, the last place I want to be in on an ambulance, and I would

imagine that any medical director who would let a nurse not having obtained

the training to be a medic work under his/her license, would need help....as

in " if you don't get help at charter, please get help somewhere " . The 2

fields are not interchangeable without the training.

magnetass sends

Nurses working on Ambulances

>

> Does anyone know if there is a TDH regulation regarding nurses

> working as medics on ambulances? Particularly, can a nurse work as a

> medic (i.e. EMT- or do they need to complete the skills and

> written test first for that level?

>

> If they can work as a medic, does the medical director need to

> create any special protocols for them?

>

> Thanks

>

October 7, 2004

They do not qualify to fill the staffing requirements on ambulances except on

specialty vehicles and aircraft. They can be a third attendant with 2 other

credentialled pre-hospital staff (levels depends on license) and they can be the

second crew member in air medical service with a Paramedic. You can look at the

rules for yourself on the TDH (DSHS) EMS website.

Lee

Nurses working on Ambulances

Does anyone know if there is a TDH regulation regarding nurses

working as medics on ambulances? Particularly, can a nurse work as a

medic (i.e. EMT- or do they need to complete the skills and

written test first for that level?

If they can work as a medic, does the medical director need to

create any special protocols for them?

Thanks

October 7, 2004

I must agree with you here. Even putting the issue of training aside (just

pretend for a minute that the training was comparable--which we all know it

isn't) Nurse pay vs. Paramedic pay????? No brainer here.

Nurses working on Ambulances

>

> Does anyone know if there is a TDH regulation regarding nurses

> working as medics on ambulances? Particularly, can a nurse work as a

> medic (i.e. EMT- or do they need to complete the skills and

> written test first for that level?

>

> If they can work as a medic, does the medical director need to

> create any special protocols for them?

>

> Thanks

>

October 7, 2004

Believe it or not, there are nurses, perhaps that were paramedics first

or later became a paramedic, that actually enjoy working on the

ambulance. As far as pay goes, we have plenty of people that work on

ambulances for free, such as volunteers in the community.

<just pretend for a minute that the training was comparable--which we

all know it isn't> This seems a bit hypocritical, as we see many

paramedics wanting to work in the ED, wanting to perform nursing type

procedures in the hospital, yet they have not been trained/educated as a

nurse.

I actually believe there are many congruencies between the two

disciplines, we both take care of sick people, we both do things like

start IVs, give meds, bandage wounds etc. Many nurses have gone out,

taken classes like TNCC, ACLS, PALS etc, where they are exposed to other

procedures like intubation, needle decompressions, etc. Just as some of

the paramedics that wish to work in the hospital have gained skills that

were not part of their initial training.

I have had the pleasure of working beside nurses for many years, doing

both inter-facility transports and 911 type responses. I appreciate and

have benefited from the differences in our education and training and

more importantly, my patients have benefitted from this as well.

As far as the original question, not sure, I would suggest you go to the

TDH website or what ever the new name is, and look up the rules...I

think it may be 157.11.

Best Regards,

Bill Waechter, LP

>>> justrubl@... 10/07/04 10:00 PM >>>

I must agree with you here. Even putting the issue of training aside

(just pretend for a minute that the training was comparable--which we

all know it isn't) Nurse pay vs. Paramedic pay????? No brainer here.

Nurses working on Ambulances

>

> Does anyone know if there is a TDH regulation regarding nurses

> working as medics on ambulances? Particularly, can a nurse work as a

> medic (i.e. EMT- or do they need to complete the skills and

> written test first for that level?

>

> If they can work as a medic, does the medical director need to

> create any special protocols for them?

>

> Thanks

>

October 7, 2004

Believe it or not, there are nurses, perhaps that were paramedics first

or later became a paramedic, that actually enjoy working on the

ambulance. As far as pay goes, we have plenty of people that work on

ambulances for free, such as volunteers in the community.

<just pretend for a minute that the training was comparable--which we

all know it isn't> This seems a bit hypocritical, as we see many

paramedics wanting to work in the ED, wanting to perform nursing type

procedures in the hospital, yet they have not been trained/educated as a

nurse.

I actually believe there are many congruencies between the two

disciplines, we both take care of sick people, we both do things like

start IVs, give meds, bandage wounds etc. Many nurses have gone out,

taken classes like TNCC, ACLS, PALS etc, where they are exposed to other

procedures like intubation, needle decompressions, etc. Just as some of

the paramedics that wish to work in the hospital have gained skills that

were not part of their initial training.

I have had the pleasure of working beside nurses for many years, doing

both inter-facility transports and 911 type responses. I appreciate and

have benefited from the differences in our education and training and

more importantly, my patients have benefitted from this as well.

As far as the original question, not sure, I would suggest you go to the

TDH website or what ever the new name is, and look up the rules...I

think it may be 157.11.

Best Regards,

Bill Waechter, LP

>>> justrubl@... 10/07/04 10:00 PM >>>

I must agree with you here. Even putting the issue of training aside

(just pretend for a minute that the training was comparable--which we

all know it isn't) Nurse pay vs. Paramedic pay????? No brainer here.

Nurses working on Ambulances

>

> Does anyone know if there is a TDH regulation regarding nurses

> working as medics on ambulances? Particularly, can a nurse work as a

> medic (i.e. EMT- or do they need to complete the skills and

> written test first for that level?

>

> If they can work as a medic, does the medical director need to

> create any special protocols for them?

>

> Thanks

>

October 7, 2004

Believe it or not, there are nurses, perhaps that were paramedics first

or later became a paramedic, that actually enjoy working on the

ambulance. As far as pay goes, we have plenty of people that work on

ambulances for free, such as volunteers in the community.

<just pretend for a minute that the training was comparable--which we

all know it isn't> This seems a bit hypocritical, as we see many

paramedics wanting to work in the ED, wanting to perform nursing type

procedures in the hospital, yet they have not been trained/educated as a

nurse.

I actually believe there are many congruencies between the two

disciplines, we both take care of sick people, we both do things like

start IVs, give meds, bandage wounds etc. Many nurses have gone out,

taken classes like TNCC, ACLS, PALS etc, where they are exposed to other

procedures like intubation, needle decompressions, etc. Just as some of

the paramedics that wish to work in the hospital have gained skills that

were not part of their initial training.

I have had the pleasure of working beside nurses for many years, doing

both inter-facility transports and 911 type responses. I appreciate and

have benefited from the differences in our education and training and

more importantly, my patients have benefitted from this as well.

As far as the original question, not sure, I would suggest you go to the

TDH website or what ever the new name is, and look up the rules...I

think it may be 157.11.

Best Regards,

Bill Waechter, LP

>>> justrubl@... 10/07/04 10:00 PM >>>

I must agree with you here. Even putting the issue of training aside

(just pretend for a minute that the training was comparable--which we

all know it isn't) Nurse pay vs. Paramedic pay????? No brainer here.

Nurses working on Ambulances

>

> Does anyone know if there is a TDH regulation regarding nurses

> working as medics on ambulances? Particularly, can a nurse work as a

> medic (i.e. EMT- or do they need to complete the skills and

> written test first for that level?

>

> If they can work as a medic, does the medical director need to

> create any special protocols for them?

>

> Thanks

>

October 7, 2004

I'm sure there are....I've just never met one, and like I said, they would

have to be dual certified.

Just to open another can of worms....

" As far as pay goes, we have plenty of people that work on

ambulances for free, such as volunteers in the community. "

Ever met a vollunteer nurse?

magnetass sends

Nurses working on Ambulances

>

> >

> > Does anyone know if there is a TDH regulation regarding nurses

> > working as medics on ambulances? Particularly, can a nurse work as a

> > medic (i.e. EMT- or do they need to complete the skills and

> > written test first for that level?

> >

> > If they can work as a medic, does the medical director need to

> > create any special protocols for them?

> >

> > Thanks

> >

October 8, 2004

I have to laugh every time I read message like this one....

Here in Australia, nurses leave nursing, particulary ICU and Emergency

Nurses, to become Ambulance Paramedics. Some go on to do MICA Paramedic

training, but most are more than happy with general Paramedic role.

We have a bit of a different culture. I know when I applied 5 years ago, I

was one of about 6500 people apply for approx 100 positions. Mind you, we

still don't need stab or bullet vests in our roles (yet). Commonly the most

dangerous patient we have would be a psych with a sharp implement hurting

themselves....

And the two roels (Ambulance and Nursing) are not interchangeable. In one

you have complete control of the environment you are in, the other you have

no idea about the environment you are in and no backup when the shit hits

the fan ..... You decide which is which

Ewan

Ambulance Paramedic Clinical Instructor

Metorpolitan Ambulance Service

Melbourne, Australia

Re: Nurses working on Ambulances

Hafta ask.....why in god's name would a nurse do that? I have known several

who held dual certifications, but never one who worked on a ground

ambulance.

My wife looked into trying to get a medic cert from RN (for the vollie FD),

and it involved all the clinicals and passing the test, so she passed on it.

If I'm an RN, the last place I want to be in on an ambulance, and I would

imagine that any medical director who would let a nurse not having obtained

the training to be a medic work under his/her license, would need help....as

in " if you don't get help at charter, please get help somewhere " . The 2

fields are not interchangeable without the training.

magnetass sends

Nurses working on Ambulances

>

> Does anyone know if there is a TDH regulation regarding nurses

> working as medics on ambulances? Particularly, can a nurse work as a

> medic (i.e. EMT- or do they need to complete the skills and

> written test first for that level?

>

> If they can work as a medic, does the medical director need to

> create any special protocols for them?

>

> Thanks

>

October 8, 2004

I have to laugh every time I read message like this one....

Here in Australia, nurses leave nursing, particulary ICU and Emergency

Nurses, to become Ambulance Paramedics. Some go on to do MICA Paramedic

training, but most are more than happy with general Paramedic role.

We have a bit of a different culture. I know when I applied 5 years ago, I

was one of about 6500 people apply for approx 100 positions. Mind you, we

still don't need stab or bullet vests in our roles (yet). Commonly the most

dangerous patient we have would be a psych with a sharp implement hurting

themselves....

And the two roels (Ambulance and Nursing) are not interchangeable. In one

you have complete control of the environment you are in, the other you have

no idea about the environment you are in and no backup when the shit hits

the fan ..... You decide which is which

Ewan

Ambulance Paramedic Clinical Instructor

Metorpolitan Ambulance Service

Melbourne, Australia

Re: Nurses working on Ambulances

Hafta ask.....why in god's name would a nurse do that? I have known several

who held dual certifications, but never one who worked on a ground

ambulance.

My wife looked into trying to get a medic cert from RN (for the vollie FD),

and it involved all the clinicals and passing the test, so she passed on it.

If I'm an RN, the last place I want to be in on an ambulance, and I would

imagine that any medical director who would let a nurse not having obtained

the training to be a medic work under his/her license, would need help....as

in " if you don't get help at charter, please get help somewhere " . The 2

fields are not interchangeable without the training.

magnetass sends

Nurses working on Ambulances

>

> Does anyone know if there is a TDH regulation regarding nurses

> working as medics on ambulances? Particularly, can a nurse work as a

> medic (i.e. EMT- or do they need to complete the skills and

> written test first for that level?

>

> If they can work as a medic, does the medical director need to

> create any special protocols for them?

>

> Thanks

>

October 8, 2004

No, they are much smarter that us!

Bill

Bill Waechter, BA, LP

Director of Business Development & Communications

San AirLife

Office

Mobile

bwaecht@...

>>> magnetass@... 10/07/04 10:54 PM >>>

I'm sure there are....I've just never met one, and like I said, they

would

have to be dual certified.

Just to open another can of worms....

" As far as pay goes, we have plenty of people that work on

ambulances for free, such as volunteers in the community. "

Ever met a vollunteer nurse?

magnetass sends

Nurses working on Ambulances

>

> >

> > Does anyone know if there is a TDH regulation regarding nurses

> > working as medics on ambulances? Particularly, can a nurse work as

a

> > medic (i.e. EMT- or do they need to complete the skills and

> > written test first for that level?

> >

> > If they can work as a medic, does the medical director need to

> > create any special protocols for them?

> >

> > Thanks

> >

October 8, 2004

No shi'ite! Good thing my wife is brilliant and can support me.

magnetass sends

Nurses working on Ambulances

> >

> > >

> > > Does anyone know if there is a TDH regulation regarding nurses

> > > working as medics on ambulances? Particularly, can a nurse work as

> a

> > > medic (i.e. EMT- or do they need to complete the skills and

> > > written test first for that level?

> > >

> > > If they can work as a medic, does the medical director need to

> > > create any special protocols for them?

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

October 8, 2004

No shi'ite! Good thing my wife is brilliant and can support me.

magnetass sends

Nurses working on Ambulances

> >

> > >

> > > Does anyone know if there is a TDH regulation regarding nurses

> > > working as medics on ambulances? Particularly, can a nurse work as

> a

> > > medic (i.e. EMT- or do they need to complete the skills and

> > > written test first for that level?

> > >

> > > If they can work as a medic, does the medical director need to

> > > create any special protocols for them?

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

October 8, 2004

No shi'ite! Good thing my wife is brilliant and can support me.

magnetass sends

Nurses working on Ambulances

> >

> > >

> > > Does anyone know if there is a TDH regulation regarding nurses

> > > working as medics on ambulances? Particularly, can a nurse work as

> a

> > > medic (i.e. EMT- or do they need to complete the skills and

> > > written test first for that level?

> > >

> > > If they can work as a medic, does the medical director need to

> > > create any special protocols for them?

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

October 8, 2004

I have been blessed with a wife that supports all my low pay, long hours EMS

adventures. I am now doubly blessed with a wife that so loves the Volunteer

service in our community so much that she is enrolled in an EMT Basic class. She

has been an RN for right at 20 years (17 of which were in the ER) and is now one

of the ADNs at a local hospital. Her involvement in and enthusiasm for the

volunteer service has brought in at least five other RNs into our volunteer

department. Out of the twelve or so volunteers that respond to medical calls in

our small community, half of them are volunteer nurses. And I am proud to be

associated with each one of them.

If I remember the original query, the requested information was about nurses

" staffing " ambulances or was on " working " on ambulances? I believe others have

suggested the DSHS web site which is also my suggestion, horse's mouth kind of

thing.

And since we are on the topic, which one of you wise and powerful individuals

can help me with my dilemma?

The Texas Board of Nurse Examiners has indicated to me that if an RN provides

services without compensation, that scope of practice may not apply. Thus an RN

that volunteers may be allowed to follow prehospital protocols from a physician

(such assisting the Paramedic with a limited skill set common to EMS and

nursing, IVs, O2 admin and so forth). The rules for delegation on the Texas

Medical Examiners website specifies delegation to TDH certified personnel quote:

§157.003.Emergency Care

The authority to delegate medical acts to a properly qualified person as

provided by this subchapter applies to emergency care provided by emergency

medical personnel certified by the Texas Department of Health.

First rule:

§157.001.General Authority of Physician to Delegate

(a) A physician may delegate to a qualified and properly trained person acting

under the physician's supervision any medical act that a reasonable and prudent

physician would find within the scope of sound medical judgment to delegate if,

in the opinion of the delegating physician:

(1) the act:

(A) can be properly and safely performed by the person to whom the medical act

is delegated;

( is performed in its customary manner; and

(2) the person to whom the delegation is made does not represent to the public

that the person is authorized to practice medicine.

( The delegating physician remains responsible for the medical acts of the

person performing the delegated medical acts.

(1) an act constitutes the practice of medicine, not inconsistent with this

chapter; and

(2) a medical act may be properly or safely delegated by physicians.

The disclaimer rule:

§157.006.Limitation on Board Rules Regarding Delegation

The board shall promote a physician's exercise of professional judgment to

decide which medical acts may be safely delegated by not adopting rules

containing, except as absolutely necessary, global prohibitions or restrictions

on the delegation of medical acts.

Our medical director would like for the volunteers that are nurses to be able to

assist the EMS provider (also medical director for that service) on scene if

requested by the Medic in-charge on the scene. I would like for them to be able

to assist too.

Problem #1: Does 157.003 limit emergency care to TDH certified personnel or does

157.001 and 157.006 say it is up to the physician?

Problem #2: Our department is having trouble finding liability insurance for our

service because we have nurses providing care without the benefit of TDH

certification and our insurance provider has indicated that they will only cover

TDH certified personnel. Anyone out there have good liability coverage for their

first responder organization?

Problem #3: Can anybody provide me with a copy of the National standard

guidelines for prehospital nursing curriculum ? I have searched the ENA and

other web sites without success.

Thanks in advance if you are still reading this. Thanks infintitum if you can

help.

Alan Baker

Re: Nurses working on Ambulances

I'm sure there are....I've just never met one, and like I said, they would

have to be dual certified.

Just to open another can of worms....

" As far as pay goes, we have plenty of people that work on

ambulances for free, such as volunteers in the community. "

Ever met a vollunteer nurse?

magnetass sends

Nurses working on Ambulances

>

> >

> > Does anyone know if there is a TDH regulation regarding nurses

> > working as medics on ambulances? Particularly, can a nurse work as a

> > medic (i.e. EMT- or do they need to complete the skills and

> > written test first for that level?

> >

> > If they can work as a medic, does the medical director need to

> > create any special protocols for them?

> >

> > Thanks

> >

October 8, 2004

I volunteered with a service and worked with a emergency room nurse who was

cross trained as an EMT. As long as a paramedic was on board, she could perform

the same functions as a medic ( IV's, push meds, etc.) She was experienced in

working codes and a good EMT, and as I was brand new I was glad to have her.

However, I have to wonder now if something had gone wrong in that that it would

have been MY butt.

Meredith

Nurses working on Ambulances

>

> >

> > Does anyone know if there is a TDH regulation regarding nurses

> > working as medics on ambulances? Particularly, can a nurse work as a

> > medic (i.e. EMT- or do they need to complete the skills and

> > written test first for that level?

> >

> > If they can work as a medic, does the medical director need to

> > create any special protocols for them?

> >

> > Thanks

> >

October 8, 2004

I volunteered with a service and worked with a emergency room nurse who was

cross trained as an EMT. As long as a paramedic was on board, she could perform

the same functions as a medic ( IV's, push meds, etc.) She was experienced in

working codes and a good EMT, and as I was brand new I was glad to have her.

However, I have to wonder now if something had gone wrong in that that it would

have been MY butt.

Meredith

Nurses working on Ambulances

>

> >

> > Does anyone know if there is a TDH regulation regarding nurses

> > working as medics on ambulances? Particularly, can a nurse work as a

> > medic (i.e. EMT- or do they need to complete the skills and

> > written test first for that level?

> >

> > If they can work as a medic, does the medical director need to

> > create any special protocols for them?

> >

> > Thanks

> >

October 8, 2004

I volunteered with a service and worked with a emergency room nurse who was

cross trained as an EMT. As long as a paramedic was on board, she could perform

the same functions as a medic ( IV's, push meds, etc.) She was experienced in

working codes and a good EMT, and as I was brand new I was glad to have her.

However, I have to wonder now if something had gone wrong in that that it would

have been MY butt.

Meredith

Nurses working on Ambulances

>

> >

> > Does anyone know if there is a TDH regulation regarding nurses

> > working as medics on ambulances? Particularly, can a nurse work as a

> > medic (i.e. EMT- or do they need to complete the skills and

> > written test first for that level?

> >

> > If they can work as a medic, does the medical director need to

> > create any special protocols for them?

> >

> > Thanks

> >

October 8, 2004

-- " BAKER, Alan " wrote:

Problem #3: Can anybody provide me with a copy of the National standard

guidelines for prehospital nursing curriculum ? I have searched the ENA and

other web sites without success.

THe closest to a national curriculum for pre-hospital nurses is the Core

Curriculum for Flight Nursing. It contains content for both emergent situations

and critical care transportation.

Larry RN LP EMSI

October 8, 2004

-- " BAKER, Alan " wrote:

Problem #3: Can anybody provide me with a copy of the National standard

guidelines for prehospital nursing curriculum ? I have searched the ENA and

other web sites without success.

THe closest to a national curriculum for pre-hospital nurses is the Core

Curriculum for Flight Nursing. It contains content for both emergent situations

and critical care transportation.

Larry RN LP EMSI

October 8, 2004

-- " BAKER, Alan " wrote:

Problem #3: Can anybody provide me with a copy of the National standard

guidelines for prehospital nursing curriculum ? I have searched the ENA and

other web sites without success.

THe closest to a national curriculum for pre-hospital nurses is the Core

Curriculum for Flight Nursing. It contains content for both emergent situations

and critical care transportation.

Larry RN LP EMSI

October 8, 2004

-- " Brown " wrote:

I'm sure there are....I've just never met one, and like I said, they would have

to be dual certified....Ever met a vollunteer nurse?

AND

> Hafta ask.....why in god's name would a nurse do that? I have known

> several who held dual certifications, but never one who worked on a > ground

ambulance.

REPLY

In answer to 's original question, you are correct, a RN has to have an EMS

certification / license to work as a regular team member.

I work on a ground ambulance, and work ER / ICU on the side (mostly for skills

retention). I do so because I enjoy it.

Yes, there are volunteer nurses. Some are found in parish nursing, some are in

public education. Also consider DMAT; IIRC, training and exercises are generally

unpaid. Only when activated by the PHS is there pay.

If you can read this, thank a teacher

If you can comment freely on this, thank a soldier

Larry RN LP EMSI

October 8, 2004

-- " Brown " wrote:

I'm sure there are....I've just never met one, and like I said, they would have

to be dual certified....Ever met a vollunteer nurse?

AND

> Hafta ask.....why in god's name would a nurse do that? I have known

> several who held dual certifications, but never one who worked on a > ground

ambulance.

REPLY

In answer to 's original question, you are correct, a RN has to have an EMS

certification / license to work as a regular team member.

I work on a ground ambulance, and work ER / ICU on the side (mostly for skills

retention). I do so because I enjoy it.

Yes, there are volunteer nurses. Some are found in parish nursing, some are in

public education. Also consider DMAT; IIRC, training and exercises are generally

unpaid. Only when activated by the PHS is there pay.

If you can read this, thank a teacher

If you can comment freely on this, thank a soldier

Larry RN LP EMSI

October 8, 2004

-- " Brown " wrote:

I'm sure there are....I've just never met one, and like I said, they would have

to be dual certified....Ever met a vollunteer nurse?

AND

> Hafta ask.....why in god's name would a nurse do that? I have known

> several who held dual certifications, but never one who worked on a > ground

ambulance.

REPLY

In answer to 's original question, you are correct, a RN has to have an EMS

certification / license to work as a regular team member.

I work on a ground ambulance, and work ER / ICU on the side (mostly for skills

retention). I do so because I enjoy it.

Yes, there are volunteer nurses. Some are found in parish nursing, some are in

public education. Also consider DMAT; IIRC, training and exercises are generally

unpaid. Only when activated by the PHS is there pay.

If you can read this, thank a teacher

If you can comment freely on this, thank a soldier

Larry RN LP EMSI

October 9, 2004

Yes I have known a volunteer nurse who worked 12 hour shifts in a hospital as a

doctorate degree R.N. and then went home to a paramedic husband and children and

several dogs and a private business and responded as a acls/pals Paramedic with

a local EMS her husband a P.A. worked for a paid municipal EMS service and was a

volunteer fire fighter and also gave time as a acls/pals NR-Paramedic to that

same service which at the time had a volunteer Dr. who was also a pretty good

Emergence Room M.D. he also rode out on calls to keep in touch and responded to

any scene he was called to while he was not working at the large trauma center

hospital in Beaumont, TX. Don knock nurses just because they are a nurse we have

good and bad people in all races and all job classifications, how about the R.N.

policeman and the EMT policemen and the Paramedic policemen and the volunteer

R.N Paramedic / Fire Fighter Policemen and the SAR people of all trades I even

know a plumber who is a volunteer EMS person and how about those EMS people of

all levels that work 24 hour shifts on ems services for pay and then volunteer

there time to small EMS services. beware who you beat on I know people who

worked 30 years as EMS people and the same 30 as volunteer fire fighter and

also work as state prison guards. Volunteer R.N ? Yes!

Nurses working on Ambulances

> >

> > >

> > > Does anyone know if there is a TDH regulation regarding nurses

> > > working as medics on ambulances? Particularly, can a nurse work as

> a

> > > medic (i.e. EMT- or do they need to complete the skills and

> > > written test first for that level?

> > >

> > > If they can work as a medic, does the medical director need to

> > > create any special protocols for them?

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

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