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Hi Rick,

Banding can correct some of the facial asymmetry concerns you

expressed - I have seen some incredible change in many of the before

and after progress photos in the photos section of the group, so I'm

keeping my fingers crossed for you that your son will also get this

type of correction!

I may not be giving you any new information regarding the band

available from NOPCO, but I thought I'd respond. NOPCO orders its

helmets from Orthomerica, a manufacturer/distributer. The helmet

available at NOPCO is Orthomerica's Starband. Information about

Orthomerica's Starband is available on their website:

http://www.orthomerica.com/products/cranial/starband.htm

As you can see from Orthomerica's webpage, the Starband is " active, "

" requires frequent follow-up for ongoing adjustments, " and per their

FAQ page, " Typically, the infant is seen a week after the initial

fitting and approximately every 2 to 3 weeks thereafter, throughout

the course of the treatment program. Younger infants may require more

frequent follow up appointments since their heads are growing so rapidly. "

Information provided to the group from parents who have gone to NOPCO

yields that their infants are seen approx. once every 4 weeks or so.

This adjustment schedule is indicative of a less agressively styled

helmet interior - a passive helmet. In addition to the adjustment

schedule, one previous poster said that the ortho there confirmed

himself that they modify the Starband to be a passive band. This

adjustment schedule and less aggressively styled interior is not how

Orthomerica advertises its Starband qualities and protocol, and is not

at all common amongst the orthotists nationwide that order Starbands

for use. By the way, passive products DO work! Many babies here have

used passive products successfully. However, it is very important for

parents of older plagio babies to be aware of what type of product is

being offered. While active bands work well on both older and younger

babies, passive helmets work best on younger babies with lots of

growth spurts ahead of them. This is because passive helmets provide

a round shell that babies' heads eventually grow into, while active

bands more closely follow the contours of the head, and redirect

growth more immediately, necessitating the frequent adjustments.

Would you refresh my memory as to how old your son is?

Although I can remember more poor experiences with NOPCO posted on

this board, I can recall one other NOPCO success story, too, if you

are interested. Grace's dad even made a website about their

experience there. Even though it was some time ago, he may be

available for email contact if you'd like to communicate with him.

Here is Grace's plagio website:

http://www.oddnoggin.com/index.html

Grace's situation was unique in my memory, because she was quite old

by usual standards to be in a modified-to-be-passive Starband from

NOPCO, but I think her dad said she got good correction.

Good luck with everything, and please post updates when you can! I'd

welcome learning any more details about the NOPCO Starband protocol,

i.e. how often your son is being seen, etc.

Take care,

Christie (Mom to Repo'd Remy)

> > > >

> > > > My son was born with tort. His cord was wrapped around his

> neck

> > > > twice. His tort was pretty bad. He is 6 months now. Therapy

> > > since he

> > > > was 2 months. He now has almost full range of motion and is

> > > holding

> > > > his head up almost straight. He does still tilt if he is

> tired or

> > > > sitting in something like a highchair or carseat. His plagio

> was

> > > > moderate and I have been waiting for his helmet. Aggressively

> > > repo-

> > > > ing the whole time. He is rarely on his head anymore, so it

> is

> > > > shaping quite a bit on it's own. I hear that the bands only

> > > reshape

> > > > where there is brain growth and that it will not help with

> facial

> > > > assymetry. But then so many moms say that the face is so much

> > > better

> > > > after the helmet. I am concerned about the face and jaw. His

> > > upper

> > > > gum line is even noticably higher on one side. What type of

> > > > correction have you all seen in the face?

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Hi Rick,

Banding can correct some of the facial asymmetry concerns you

expressed - I have seen some incredible change in many of the before

and after progress photos in the photos section of the group, so I'm

keeping my fingers crossed for you that your son will also get this

type of correction!

I may not be giving you any new information regarding the band

available from NOPCO, but I thought I'd respond. NOPCO orders its

helmets from Orthomerica, a manufacturer/distributer. The helmet

available at NOPCO is Orthomerica's Starband. Information about

Orthomerica's Starband is available on their website:

http://www.orthomerica.com/products/cranial/starband.htm

As you can see from Orthomerica's webpage, the Starband is " active, "

" requires frequent follow-up for ongoing adjustments, " and per their

FAQ page, " Typically, the infant is seen a week after the initial

fitting and approximately every 2 to 3 weeks thereafter, throughout

the course of the treatment program. Younger infants may require more

frequent follow up appointments since their heads are growing so rapidly. "

Information provided to the group from parents who have gone to NOPCO

yields that their infants are seen approx. once every 4 weeks or so.

This adjustment schedule is indicative of a less agressively styled

helmet interior - a passive helmet. In addition to the adjustment

schedule, one previous poster said that the ortho there confirmed

himself that they modify the Starband to be a passive band. This

adjustment schedule and less aggressively styled interior is not how

Orthomerica advertises its Starband qualities and protocol, and is not

at all common amongst the orthotists nationwide that order Starbands

for use. By the way, passive products DO work! Many babies here have

used passive products successfully. However, it is very important for

parents of older plagio babies to be aware of what type of product is

being offered. While active bands work well on both older and younger

babies, passive helmets work best on younger babies with lots of

growth spurts ahead of them. This is because passive helmets provide

a round shell that babies' heads eventually grow into, while active

bands more closely follow the contours of the head, and redirect

growth more immediately, necessitating the frequent adjustments.

Would you refresh my memory as to how old your son is?

Although I can remember more poor experiences with NOPCO posted on

this board, I can recall one other NOPCO success story, too, if you

are interested. Grace's dad even made a website about their

experience there. Even though it was some time ago, he may be

available for email contact if you'd like to communicate with him.

Here is Grace's plagio website:

http://www.oddnoggin.com/index.html

Grace's situation was unique in my memory, because she was quite old

by usual standards to be in a modified-to-be-passive Starband from

NOPCO, but I think her dad said she got good correction.

Good luck with everything, and please post updates when you can! I'd

welcome learning any more details about the NOPCO Starband protocol,

i.e. how often your son is being seen, etc.

Take care,

Christie (Mom to Repo'd Remy)

> > > >

> > > > My son was born with tort. His cord was wrapped around his

> neck

> > > > twice. His tort was pretty bad. He is 6 months now. Therapy

> > > since he

> > > > was 2 months. He now has almost full range of motion and is

> > > holding

> > > > his head up almost straight. He does still tilt if he is

> tired or

> > > > sitting in something like a highchair or carseat. His plagio

> was

> > > > moderate and I have been waiting for his helmet. Aggressively

> > > repo-

> > > > ing the whole time. He is rarely on his head anymore, so it

> is

> > > > shaping quite a bit on it's own. I hear that the bands only

> > > reshape

> > > > where there is brain growth and that it will not help with

> facial

> > > > assymetry. But then so many moms say that the face is so much

> > > better

> > > > after the helmet. I am concerned about the face and jaw. His

> > > upper

> > > > gum line is even noticably higher on one side. What type of

> > > > correction have you all seen in the face?

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Thank you. My son is 3 months old today, he has had a " flat spot "

on record from his two week old visit. We had him scanned a week

ago yesterday and the diag's were off by 20 mm. His hears are

significantly (45 degrees from center line) assymetrical, facial is

minor but noticable when you look for it.

I spoke with NOPCO today, it is a Starband and should be in

tomorrow. As we have to go to Children's anyway I am going to see

if we can't get him seen tomorrow to be fitted in Boston rather then

waiting for next Tuesday in the Avon location.

Has anyone had experiance with Carol Craig as their OT as she will

be the primary seeing our son in the Avon location.

Thank you in advance,

Rick

> > > > >

> > > > > My son was born with tort. His cord was wrapped around

his

> > neck

> > > > > twice. His tort was pretty bad. He is 6 months now.

Therapy

> > > > since he

> > > > > was 2 months. He now has almost full range of motion and

is

> > > > holding

> > > > > his head up almost straight. He does still tilt if he is

> > tired or

> > > > > sitting in something like a highchair or carseat. His

plagio

> > was

> > > > > moderate and I have been waiting for his helmet.

Aggressively

> > > > repo-

> > > > > ing the whole time. He is rarely on his head anymore, so

it

> > is

> > > > > shaping quite a bit on it's own. I hear that the bands

only

> > > > reshape

> > > > > where there is brain growth and that it will not help with

> > facial

> > > > > assymetry. But then so many moms say that the face is so

much

> > > > better

> > > > > after the helmet. I am concerned about the face and jaw.

His

> > > > upper

> > > > > gum line is even noticably higher on one side. What type

of

> > > > > correction have you all seen in the face?

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Thank you. My son is 3 months old today, he has had a " flat spot "

on record from his two week old visit. We had him scanned a week

ago yesterday and the diag's were off by 20 mm. His hears are

significantly (45 degrees from center line) assymetrical, facial is

minor but noticable when you look for it.

I spoke with NOPCO today, it is a Starband and should be in

tomorrow. As we have to go to Children's anyway I am going to see

if we can't get him seen tomorrow to be fitted in Boston rather then

waiting for next Tuesday in the Avon location.

Has anyone had experiance with Carol Craig as their OT as she will

be the primary seeing our son in the Avon location.

Thank you in advance,

Rick

> > > > >

> > > > > My son was born with tort. His cord was wrapped around

his

> > neck

> > > > > twice. His tort was pretty bad. He is 6 months now.

Therapy

> > > > since he

> > > > > was 2 months. He now has almost full range of motion and

is

> > > > holding

> > > > > his head up almost straight. He does still tilt if he is

> > tired or

> > > > > sitting in something like a highchair or carseat. His

plagio

> > was

> > > > > moderate and I have been waiting for his helmet.

Aggressively

> > > > repo-

> > > > > ing the whole time. He is rarely on his head anymore, so

it

> > is

> > > > > shaping quite a bit on it's own. I hear that the bands

only

> > > > reshape

> > > > > where there is brain growth and that it will not help with

> > facial

> > > > > assymetry. But then so many moms say that the face is so

much

> > > > better

> > > > > after the helmet. I am concerned about the face and jaw.

His

> > > > upper

> > > > > gum line is even noticably higher on one side. What type

of

> > > > > correction have you all seen in the face?

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Wow, Rick,

At three months old, your son is a very young baby, and should expect

excellent correction to both his plagio asymmetry as well as facial

asymmetry since he is getting into a band at that young age. I

believe 3 months is the youngest FDA approved age for banding, so you

can't get more on the ball than that! 20mm is considered severe

asymmetry, so I am thrilled that you all were made aware of and are

seeking some sort of treatment at this early age for your son.

Good luck at the fitting, and let us know how it goes,

Take care,

Christie (Mom to Repo'd Remy)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My son was born with tort. His cord was wrapped around

> his

> > > neck

> > > > > > twice. His tort was pretty bad. He is 6 months now.

> Therapy

> > > > > since he

> > > > > > was 2 months. He now has almost full range of motion and

> is

> > > > > holding

> > > > > > his head up almost straight. He does still tilt if he is

> > > tired or

> > > > > > sitting in something like a highchair or carseat. His

> plagio

> > > was

> > > > > > moderate and I have been waiting for his helmet.

> Aggressively

> > > > > repo-

> > > > > > ing the whole time. He is rarely on his head anymore, so

> it

> > > is

> > > > > > shaping quite a bit on it's own. I hear that the bands

> only

> > > > > reshape

> > > > > > where there is brain growth and that it will not help with

> > > facial

> > > > > > assymetry. But then so many moms say that the face is so

> much

> > > > > better

> > > > > > after the helmet. I am concerned about the face and jaw.

> His

> > > > > upper

> > > > > > gum line is even noticably higher on one side. What type

> of

> > > > > > correction have you all seen in the face?

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Wow, Rick,

At three months old, your son is a very young baby, and should expect

excellent correction to both his plagio asymmetry as well as facial

asymmetry since he is getting into a band at that young age. I

believe 3 months is the youngest FDA approved age for banding, so you

can't get more on the ball than that! 20mm is considered severe

asymmetry, so I am thrilled that you all were made aware of and are

seeking some sort of treatment at this early age for your son.

Good luck at the fitting, and let us know how it goes,

Take care,

Christie (Mom to Repo'd Remy)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My son was born with tort. His cord was wrapped around

> his

> > > neck

> > > > > > twice. His tort was pretty bad. He is 6 months now.

> Therapy

> > > > > since he

> > > > > > was 2 months. He now has almost full range of motion and

> is

> > > > > holding

> > > > > > his head up almost straight. He does still tilt if he is

> > > tired or

> > > > > > sitting in something like a highchair or carseat. His

> plagio

> > > was

> > > > > > moderate and I have been waiting for his helmet.

> Aggressively

> > > > > repo-

> > > > > > ing the whole time. He is rarely on his head anymore, so

> it

> > > is

> > > > > > shaping quite a bit on it's own. I hear that the bands

> only

> > > > > reshape

> > > > > > where there is brain growth and that it will not help with

> > > facial

> > > > > > assymetry. But then so many moms say that the face is so

> much

> > > > > better

> > > > > > after the helmet. I am concerned about the face and jaw.

> His

> > > > > upper

> > > > > > gum line is even noticably higher on one side. What type

> of

> > > > > > correction have you all seen in the face?

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Rick,

How did the fitting go today? Did NOPCO make his band passive or did

they leave it the way it came in from Orthomerica? Christie is right

your son should receive amazing correction at his age.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My son was born with tort. His cord was wrapped around

> > his

> > > > neck

> > > > > > > twice. His tort was pretty bad. He is 6 months now.

> > Therapy

> > > > > > since he

> > > > > > > was 2 months. He now has almost full range of motion and

> > is

> > > > > > holding

> > > > > > > his head up almost straight. He does still tilt if he is

> > > > tired or

> > > > > > > sitting in something like a highchair or carseat. His

> > plagio

> > > > was

> > > > > > > moderate and I have been waiting for his helmet.

> > Aggressively

> > > > > > repo-

> > > > > > > ing the whole time. He is rarely on his head anymore, so

> > it

> > > > is

> > > > > > > shaping quite a bit on it's own. I hear that the bands

> > only

> > > > > > reshape

> > > > > > > where there is brain growth and that it will not help with

> > > > facial

> > > > > > > assymetry. But then so many moms say that the face is so

> > much

> > > > > > better

> > > > > > > after the helmet. I am concerned about the face and jaw.

> > His

> > > > > > upper

> > > > > > > gum line is even noticably higher on one side. What type

> > of

> > > > > > > correction have you all seen in the face?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Rick,

How did the fitting go today? Did NOPCO make his band passive or did

they leave it the way it came in from Orthomerica? Christie is right

your son should receive amazing correction at his age.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My son was born with tort. His cord was wrapped around

> > his

> > > > neck

> > > > > > > twice. His tort was pretty bad. He is 6 months now.

> > Therapy

> > > > > > since he

> > > > > > > was 2 months. He now has almost full range of motion and

> > is

> > > > > > holding

> > > > > > > his head up almost straight. He does still tilt if he is

> > > > tired or

> > > > > > > sitting in something like a highchair or carseat. His

> > plagio

> > > > was

> > > > > > > moderate and I have been waiting for his helmet.

> > Aggressively

> > > > > > repo-

> > > > > > > ing the whole time. He is rarely on his head anymore, so

> > it

> > > > is

> > > > > > > shaping quite a bit on it's own. I hear that the bands

> > only

> > > > > > reshape

> > > > > > > where there is brain growth and that it will not help with

> > > > facial

> > > > > > > assymetry. But then so many moms say that the face is so

> > much

> > > > > > better

> > > > > > > after the helmet. I am concerned about the face and jaw.

> > His

> > > > > > upper

> > > > > > > gum line is even noticably higher on one side. What type

> > of

> > > > > > > correction have you all seen in the face?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Fitting is not officially until Tuesday the 14th. Spoke to NOPCO

today, they are supposed to get the Starband in tomorrow in Boston.

Just so happens I will be in Boston in the morning with my son

(different appointment for him at Children's) so I am going to wait

to see if it shows up at 11. Wish me luck on that front...

I've posted a few pictures of in the photos section, see the

album " MJC " .

I'll keep you posted, I really want his helmet on tomorrow so we can

start the healing...

Rick

--- In Plagiocephaly , " stripes6060 " <taime@...>

wrote:

>

> Rick,

> How did the fitting go today? Did NOPCO make his band passive or

did

> they leave it the way it came in from Orthomerica? Christie is

right

> your son should receive amazing correction at his age.

>

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Fitting is not officially until Tuesday the 14th. Spoke to NOPCO

today, they are supposed to get the Starband in tomorrow in Boston.

Just so happens I will be in Boston in the morning with my son

(different appointment for him at Children's) so I am going to wait

to see if it shows up at 11. Wish me luck on that front...

I've posted a few pictures of in the photos section, see the

album " MJC " .

I'll keep you posted, I really want his helmet on tomorrow so we can

start the healing...

Rick

--- In Plagiocephaly , " stripes6060 " <taime@...>

wrote:

>

> Rick,

> How did the fitting go today? Did NOPCO make his band passive or

did

> they leave it the way it came in from Orthomerica? Christie is

right

> your son should receive amazing correction at his age.

>

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Hi Rick,

Both of my girls had/have facial and ear asymmetires. My oldest wore

2 DOC bands. My youngest is currently in a DOC band. na had

great correction even in her ears. Kiersten is showing some good

correction so far. We saw a huge imrpovement in her ears the past 2

weeks - like very noticable. If you check the link below and go to

their plagio page you can get their stories and pics.

What happens with facial assymetry is as the skull is corrected the

face tends to follow (as long as tort is not holding it back).

mom to na, 2 1/2 years, DOC Grad, tort Resolved

Kiersten, 8 months, DOC Band 1/10/06, Tort

www.thefilyaws.com

> > > > >

> > > > > My son was born with tort. His cord was wrapped around his

> > neck

> > > > > twice. His tort was pretty bad. He is 6 months now.

Therapy

> > > > since he

> > > > > was 2 months. He now has almost full range of motion and

is

> > > > holding

> > > > > his head up almost straight. He does still tilt if he is

> > tired or

> > > > > sitting in something like a highchair or carseat. His

plagio

> > was

> > > > > moderate and I have been waiting for his helmet.

Aggressively

> > > > repo-

> > > > > ing the whole time. He is rarely on his head anymore, so

it

> > is

> > > > > shaping quite a bit on it's own. I hear that the bands

only

> > > > reshape

> > > > > where there is brain growth and that it will not help with

> > facial

> > > > > assymetry. But then so many moms say that the face is so

much

> > > > better

> > > > > after the helmet. I am concerned about the face and jaw.

His

> > > > upper

> > > > > gum line is even noticably higher on one side. What type

of

> > > > > correction have you all seen in the face?

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Hi Rick,

Both of my girls had/have facial and ear asymmetires. My oldest wore

2 DOC bands. My youngest is currently in a DOC band. na had

great correction even in her ears. Kiersten is showing some good

correction so far. We saw a huge imrpovement in her ears the past 2

weeks - like very noticable. If you check the link below and go to

their plagio page you can get their stories and pics.

What happens with facial assymetry is as the skull is corrected the

face tends to follow (as long as tort is not holding it back).

mom to na, 2 1/2 years, DOC Grad, tort Resolved

Kiersten, 8 months, DOC Band 1/10/06, Tort

www.thefilyaws.com

> > > > >

> > > > > My son was born with tort. His cord was wrapped around his

> > neck

> > > > > twice. His tort was pretty bad. He is 6 months now.

Therapy

> > > > since he

> > > > > was 2 months. He now has almost full range of motion and

is

> > > > holding

> > > > > his head up almost straight. He does still tilt if he is

> > tired or

> > > > > sitting in something like a highchair or carseat. His

plagio

> > was

> > > > > moderate and I have been waiting for his helmet.

Aggressively

> > > > repo-

> > > > > ing the whole time. He is rarely on his head anymore, so

it

> > is

> > > > > shaping quite a bit on it's own. I hear that the bands

only

> > > > reshape

> > > > > where there is brain growth and that it will not help with

> > facial

> > > > > assymetry. But then so many moms say that the face is so

much

> > > > better

> > > > > after the helmet. I am concerned about the face and jaw.

His

> > > > upper

> > > > > gum line is even noticably higher on one side. What type

of

> > > > > correction have you all seen in the face?

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Rick,

is adorable! His eyes are gorgeous. My fingers are crossed

that his helmet is in when you're there. Let us know. Good luck

tomorrow. I moved 's pics into the Our plagio babies M folder.

> >

> > Rick,

> > How did the fitting go today? Did NOPCO make his band passive or

> did

> > they leave it the way it came in from Orthomerica? Christie is

> right

> > your son should receive amazing correction at his age.

> >

>

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Rick,

is adorable! His eyes are gorgeous. My fingers are crossed

that his helmet is in when you're there. Let us know. Good luck

tomorrow. I moved 's pics into the Our plagio babies M folder.

> >

> > Rick,

> > How did the fitting go today? Did NOPCO make his band passive or

> did

> > they leave it the way it came in from Orthomerica? Christie is

> right

> > your son should receive amazing correction at his age.

> >

>

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Thank you. We like him, think we'll keep him :)

> > >

> > > Rick,

> > > How did the fitting go today? Did NOPCO make his band passive

or

> > did

> > > they leave it the way it came in from Orthomerica? Christie is

> > right

> > > your son should receive amazing correction at his age.

> > >

> >

>

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Thank you. We like him, think we'll keep him :)

> > >

> > > Rick,

> > > How did the fitting go today? Did NOPCO make his band passive

or

> > did

> > > they leave it the way it came in from Orthomerica? Christie is

> > right

> > > your son should receive amazing correction at his age.

> > >

> >

>

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You're welcome Rick! If it ever happens that you don't want to keep

him, I'd be more than happy to take him. My baby is almost 3! I miss

the infant days. Good luck tomorrow!

-- In Plagiocephaly , " Rick " <richard.clemon@...> wrote:

>

> Thank you. We like him, think we'll keep him :)

>

>

> > > >

> > > > Rick,

> > > > How did the fitting go today? Did NOPCO make his band passive

> or

> > > did

> > > > they leave it the way it came in from Orthomerica? Christie is

> > > right

> > > > your son should receive amazing correction at his age.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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You're welcome Rick! If it ever happens that you don't want to keep

him, I'd be more than happy to take him. My baby is almost 3! I miss

the infant days. Good luck tomorrow!

-- In Plagiocephaly , " Rick " <richard.clemon@...> wrote:

>

> Thank you. We like him, think we'll keep him :)

>

>

> > > >

> > > > Rick,

> > > > How did the fitting go today? Did NOPCO make his band passive

> or

> > > did

> > > > they leave it the way it came in from Orthomerica? Christie is

> > > right

> > > > your son should receive amazing correction at his age.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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