Guest guest Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 We took our son for a consult with Cranial Technologies today. She asked us for some history, then proceeded to tell us that with kids in his age range, repositioning is not productive because 7 month olds do not spend enough time laying down to put enough pressure on the non-flat side. She then said that banding would have more success. We were expecting her to do some sort of examination of his head and face. We asked her about this and she said that she had a trained eye and could see the facial asymmetry. She said that although there is no major flat spot on his head, the facial asymmetry puts him in the moderate to severe range. We thought they would do some sort of measuring and/or photos with an official assessment. The entire visit was her explaining how kids get plagiocephaly and how banding works. If our son needs banding, we will do it. I think some of our hesitation is that both the pediatrician and PT have said nothing about this. I know they are not specialists, but they should be familiar enough to at least comment on it. The only reason we went to Cranial Technologies was because we came to this message board and thought we should at least be evaluated. Now to be told that he is moderate to severe seems strange. I have posted some photos of Gavin, they are in the new photos section. He is the naked baby. : Does his facial asymmetry look moderate to severe? Does our visit to Cranial Technologies sound typical? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 We took our son for a consult with Cranial Technologies today. She asked us for some history, then proceeded to tell us that with kids in his age range, repositioning is not productive because 7 month olds do not spend enough time laying down to put enough pressure on the non-flat side. She then said that banding would have more success. We were expecting her to do some sort of examination of his head and face. We asked her about this and she said that she had a trained eye and could see the facial asymmetry. She said that although there is no major flat spot on his head, the facial asymmetry puts him in the moderate to severe range. We thought they would do some sort of measuring and/or photos with an official assessment. The entire visit was her explaining how kids get plagiocephaly and how banding works. If our son needs banding, we will do it. I think some of our hesitation is that both the pediatrician and PT have said nothing about this. I know they are not specialists, but they should be familiar enough to at least comment on it. The only reason we went to Cranial Technologies was because we came to this message board and thought we should at least be evaluated. Now to be told that he is moderate to severe seems strange. I have posted some photos of Gavin, they are in the new photos section. He is the naked baby. : Does his facial asymmetry look moderate to severe? Does our visit to Cranial Technologies sound typical? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 , First off those pictures of Gavin are absolutely wonderful! I wish I had done naked shots of our kids. Measurements are usually taken for insurance purposes. Not everyone gets them. Did you ask to take pictures and they said no? If you still want them I bet they'd take them for you. You can also ask for a different clinician if you want. > > We took our son for a consult with Cranial Technologies today. She > asked us for some history, then proceeded to tell us that with kids > in his age range, repositioning is not productive because 7 month > olds do not spend enough time laying down to put enough pressure on > the non-flat side. She then said that banding would have more > success. We were expecting her to do some sort of examination of > his head and face. We asked her about this and she said that she > had a trained eye and could see the facial asymmetry. She said that > although there is no major flat spot on his head, the facial > asymmetry puts him in the moderate to severe range. > > We thought they would do some sort of measuring and/or photos with > an official assessment. The entire visit was her explaining how > kids get plagiocephaly and how banding works. > > If our son needs banding, we will do it. I think some of our > hesitation is that both the pediatrician and PT have said nothing > about this. I know they are not specialists, but they should be > familiar enough to at least comment on it. The only reason we went > to Cranial Technologies was because we came to this message board > and thought we should at least be evaluated. Now to be told that he > is moderate to severe seems strange. > > I have posted some photos of Gavin, they are in the new photos > section. He is the naked baby. : Does his facial asymmetry look > moderate to severe? > > Does our visit to Cranial Technologies sound typical? > > Thanks! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 , First off those pictures of Gavin are absolutely wonderful! I wish I had done naked shots of our kids. Measurements are usually taken for insurance purposes. Not everyone gets them. Did you ask to take pictures and they said no? If you still want them I bet they'd take them for you. You can also ask for a different clinician if you want. > > We took our son for a consult with Cranial Technologies today. She > asked us for some history, then proceeded to tell us that with kids > in his age range, repositioning is not productive because 7 month > olds do not spend enough time laying down to put enough pressure on > the non-flat side. She then said that banding would have more > success. We were expecting her to do some sort of examination of > his head and face. We asked her about this and she said that she > had a trained eye and could see the facial asymmetry. She said that > although there is no major flat spot on his head, the facial > asymmetry puts him in the moderate to severe range. > > We thought they would do some sort of measuring and/or photos with > an official assessment. The entire visit was her explaining how > kids get plagiocephaly and how banding works. > > If our son needs banding, we will do it. I think some of our > hesitation is that both the pediatrician and PT have said nothing > about this. I know they are not specialists, but they should be > familiar enough to at least comment on it. The only reason we went > to Cranial Technologies was because we came to this message board > and thought we should at least be evaluated. Now to be told that he > is moderate to severe seems strange. > > I have posted some photos of Gavin, they are in the new photos > section. He is the naked baby. : Does his facial asymmetry look > moderate to severe? > > Does our visit to Cranial Technologies sound typical? > > Thanks! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 , Gavin is adorable, I LOVE naked pictures. :-) Measurments are usually only taken if it's required by insurance to do so. Measurments can be subjective too. If you had decided to band your baby CT would have taken pictures of Gavin. I totally agree with the orthotist, at Gavin's age repo would pretty much be useless. CT orthotists are extensively trained to treat plagio. They do a lot of work by eye as that is how they are trained. Not all babies that go to CT will be told they need a band. A lot of parents are told to go home and repo their baby. A baby has to have holding points, if there are no holding points the band won't work. You'd be surprised at how many parents here have doctor's and specialist's who are totally uneducated about plagio. Sadly, a lot of us here have had to educate our pediatrician's. I can clearly see Gavin's facial asymmetry. If he were my baby I'd take Cranial Tech's recommendation to heart and band him. The window of opportunity to correct plagio isn't a big one. You only get one chance at this. You can't change your mind when he's 2 because by then it's too late. Good luck making your decision, we all know how hard it is to make. Keep us posted. > > We took our son for a consult with Cranial Technologies today. She > asked us for some history, then proceeded to tell us that with kids > in his age range, repositioning is not productive because 7 month > olds do not spend enough time laying down to put enough pressure on > the non-flat side. She then said that banding would have more > success. We were expecting her to do some sort of examination of > his head and face. We asked her about this and she said that she > had a trained eye and could see the facial asymmetry. She said that > although there is no major flat spot on his head, the facial > asymmetry puts him in the moderate to severe range. > > We thought they would do some sort of measuring and/or photos with > an official assessment. The entire visit was her explaining how > kids get plagiocephaly and how banding works. > > If our son needs banding, we will do it. I think some of our > hesitation is that both the pediatrician and PT have said nothing > about this. I know they are not specialists, but they should be > familiar enough to at least comment on it. The only reason we went > to Cranial Technologies was because we came to this message board > and thought we should at least be evaluated. Now to be told that he > is moderate to severe seems strange. > > I have posted some photos of Gavin, they are in the new photos > section. He is the naked baby. : Does his facial asymmetry look > moderate to severe? > > Does our visit to Cranial Technologies sound typical? > > Thanks! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 , Gavin is adorable, I LOVE naked pictures. :-) Measurments are usually only taken if it's required by insurance to do so. Measurments can be subjective too. If you had decided to band your baby CT would have taken pictures of Gavin. I totally agree with the orthotist, at Gavin's age repo would pretty much be useless. CT orthotists are extensively trained to treat plagio. They do a lot of work by eye as that is how they are trained. Not all babies that go to CT will be told they need a band. A lot of parents are told to go home and repo their baby. A baby has to have holding points, if there are no holding points the band won't work. You'd be surprised at how many parents here have doctor's and specialist's who are totally uneducated about plagio. Sadly, a lot of us here have had to educate our pediatrician's. I can clearly see Gavin's facial asymmetry. If he were my baby I'd take Cranial Tech's recommendation to heart and band him. The window of opportunity to correct plagio isn't a big one. You only get one chance at this. You can't change your mind when he's 2 because by then it's too late. Good luck making your decision, we all know how hard it is to make. Keep us posted. > > We took our son for a consult with Cranial Technologies today. She > asked us for some history, then proceeded to tell us that with kids > in his age range, repositioning is not productive because 7 month > olds do not spend enough time laying down to put enough pressure on > the non-flat side. She then said that banding would have more > success. We were expecting her to do some sort of examination of > his head and face. We asked her about this and she said that she > had a trained eye and could see the facial asymmetry. She said that > although there is no major flat spot on his head, the facial > asymmetry puts him in the moderate to severe range. > > We thought they would do some sort of measuring and/or photos with > an official assessment. The entire visit was her explaining how > kids get plagiocephaly and how banding works. > > If our son needs banding, we will do it. I think some of our > hesitation is that both the pediatrician and PT have said nothing > about this. I know they are not specialists, but they should be > familiar enough to at least comment on it. The only reason we went > to Cranial Technologies was because we came to this message board > and thought we should at least be evaluated. Now to be told that he > is moderate to severe seems strange. > > I have posted some photos of Gavin, they are in the new photos > section. He is the naked baby. : Does his facial asymmetry look > moderate to severe? > > Does our visit to Cranial Technologies sound typical? > > Thanks! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 Our consult at CT was very similar and both my husband and myself were very un impressed with the experience. Our son's head was misshapened but we could only tell when he was in the tub and his hair was wet. I would have to say that I felt like it was more of a sales picth than an eval. BUT...since we could see it with our own eyes we decided to go ahead with it and have not one regret. Nolan graduates in less than a month and his head is as round as a basketball. Do you mind me asking what CT? Meaganlspees <lspees@...> wrote: We took our son for a consult with Cranial Technologies today. She asked us for some history, then proceeded to tell us that with kids in his age range, repositioning is not productive because 7 month olds do not spend enough time laying down to put enough pressure on the non-flat side. She then said that banding would have more success. We were expecting her to do some sort of examination of his head and face. We asked her about this and she said that she had a trained eye and could see the facial asymmetry. She said that although there is no major flat spot on his head, the facial asymmetry puts him in the moderate to severe range. We thought they would do some sort of measuring and/or photos with an official assessment. The entire visit was her explaining how kids get plagiocephaly and how banding works. If our son needs banding, we will do it. I think some of our hesitation is that both the pediatrician and PT have said nothing about this. I know they are not specialists, but they should be familiar enough to at least comment on it. The only reason we went to Cranial Technologies was because we came to this message board and thought we should at least be evaluated. Now to be told that he is moderate to severe seems strange. I have posted some photos of Gavin, they are in the new photos section. He is the naked baby. : Does his facial asymmetry look moderate to severe?Does our visit to Cranial Technologies sound typical?Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 Our consult at CT was very similar and both my husband and myself were very un impressed with the experience. Our son's head was misshapened but we could only tell when he was in the tub and his hair was wet. I would have to say that I felt like it was more of a sales picth than an eval. BUT...since we could see it with our own eyes we decided to go ahead with it and have not one regret. Nolan graduates in less than a month and his head is as round as a basketball. Do you mind me asking what CT? Meaganlspees <lspees@...> wrote: We took our son for a consult with Cranial Technologies today. She asked us for some history, then proceeded to tell us that with kids in his age range, repositioning is not productive because 7 month olds do not spend enough time laying down to put enough pressure on the non-flat side. She then said that banding would have more success. We were expecting her to do some sort of examination of his head and face. We asked her about this and she said that she had a trained eye and could see the facial asymmetry. She said that although there is no major flat spot on his head, the facial asymmetry puts him in the moderate to severe range. We thought they would do some sort of measuring and/or photos with an official assessment. The entire visit was her explaining how kids get plagiocephaly and how banding works. If our son needs banding, we will do it. I think some of our hesitation is that both the pediatrician and PT have said nothing about this. I know they are not specialists, but they should be familiar enough to at least comment on it. The only reason we went to Cranial Technologies was because we came to this message board and thought we should at least be evaluated. Now to be told that he is moderate to severe seems strange. I have posted some photos of Gavin, they are in the new photos section. He is the naked baby. : Does his facial asymmetry look moderate to severe?Does our visit to Cranial Technologies sound typical?Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 , Great pics!!! He is a cutie! The clinicians at CT are trained to use thier eyes and hands to assess. This is because a baby who is measuring 7mm of asymmetry may still look ok as far as his headshape and have no facial asymmetry and another baby may measure 7mm and his head will look very off and it will have caused facial asymmetry, so the numbers are not the way to go all the time. The treatment of plagiocephaly is all about reshaping an infants head and correcting facial asymmetry to achieve a more normal appearance and that cannot be done by the numbers alone. Measurements are generally for insurance companies who want documentation to decided weather or not they want to cover a band. I do see the facial asymmetry that Gavin has and I am surprised that your ped and your PT have not mentioned it, but alot of them don't. They just don't see it as an important problem sometimes. It's a shame but it is the truth. I know it can be upsetting and confusing to hear what you were told but you can trust CT. I would urge you to contact the clinician and ask her to explain anything you are not comfortable with and answer any of the questions you still have. They are usually very good about that. Good Luck! CAROLG > > We took our son for a consult with Cranial Technologies today. She > asked us for some history, then proceeded to tell us that with kids > in his age range, repositioning is not productive because 7 month > olds do not spend enough time laying down to put enough pressure on > the non-flat side. She then said that banding would have more > success. We were expecting her to do some sort of examination of > his head and face. We asked her about this and she said that she > had a trained eye and could see the facial asymmetry. She said that > although there is no major flat spot on his head, the facial > asymmetry puts him in the moderate to severe range. > > We thought they would do some sort of measuring and/or photos with > an official assessment. The entire visit was her explaining how > kids get plagiocephaly and how banding works. > > If our son needs banding, we will do it. I think some of our > hesitation is that both the pediatrician and PT have said nothing > about this. I know they are not specialists, but they should be > familiar enough to at least comment on it. The only reason we went > to Cranial Technologies was because we came to this message board > and thought we should at least be evaluated. Now to be told that he > is moderate to severe seems strange. > > I have posted some photos of Gavin, they are in the new photos > section. He is the naked baby. : Does his facial asymmetry look > moderate to severe? > > Does our visit to Cranial Technologies sound typical? > > Thanks! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 , Great pics!!! He is a cutie! The clinicians at CT are trained to use thier eyes and hands to assess. This is because a baby who is measuring 7mm of asymmetry may still look ok as far as his headshape and have no facial asymmetry and another baby may measure 7mm and his head will look very off and it will have caused facial asymmetry, so the numbers are not the way to go all the time. The treatment of plagiocephaly is all about reshaping an infants head and correcting facial asymmetry to achieve a more normal appearance and that cannot be done by the numbers alone. Measurements are generally for insurance companies who want documentation to decided weather or not they want to cover a band. I do see the facial asymmetry that Gavin has and I am surprised that your ped and your PT have not mentioned it, but alot of them don't. They just don't see it as an important problem sometimes. It's a shame but it is the truth. I know it can be upsetting and confusing to hear what you were told but you can trust CT. I would urge you to contact the clinician and ask her to explain anything you are not comfortable with and answer any of the questions you still have. They are usually very good about that. Good Luck! CAROLG > > We took our son for a consult with Cranial Technologies today. She > asked us for some history, then proceeded to tell us that with kids > in his age range, repositioning is not productive because 7 month > olds do not spend enough time laying down to put enough pressure on > the non-flat side. She then said that banding would have more > success. We were expecting her to do some sort of examination of > his head and face. We asked her about this and she said that she > had a trained eye and could see the facial asymmetry. She said that > although there is no major flat spot on his head, the facial > asymmetry puts him in the moderate to severe range. > > We thought they would do some sort of measuring and/or photos with > an official assessment. The entire visit was her explaining how > kids get plagiocephaly and how banding works. > > If our son needs banding, we will do it. I think some of our > hesitation is that both the pediatrician and PT have said nothing > about this. I know they are not specialists, but they should be > familiar enough to at least comment on it. The only reason we went > to Cranial Technologies was because we came to this message board > and thought we should at least be evaluated. Now to be told that he > is moderate to severe seems strange. > > I have posted some photos of Gavin, they are in the new photos > section. He is the naked baby. : Does his facial asymmetry look > moderate to severe? > > Does our visit to Cranial Technologies sound typical? > > Thanks! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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