Guest guest Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 Hello everyone, I am wondering if 5-6 months is too old to do any good with repositioning? At a minimum, I'm trying to prevent any further flattening and am changing Sydney's position in her crib, using a noggin nest and front carrier, trying to minimize any time in her car seat, etc. Still, I'm cringing every time I put her down for a nap or to sleep, due to the time on her head. Has anyone had any experience trying these techniques at this late of an age? Any other helpful hints would be appreciated. Thanks, Sydney (5 months, awaiting diagnosis) Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 Hello everyone, I am wondering if 5-6 months is too old to do any good with repositioning? At a minimum, I'm trying to prevent any further flattening and am changing Sydney's position in her crib, using a noggin nest and front carrier, trying to minimize any time in her car seat, etc. Still, I'm cringing every time I put her down for a nap or to sleep, due to the time on her head. Has anyone had any experience trying these techniques at this late of an age? Any other helpful hints would be appreciated. Thanks, Sydney (5 months, awaiting diagnosis) Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 Hi ! My son Braden was diagnosed with plagio at 2 months and we tried aggressive repositioning but a month later we ended up with him having brach and plagio. The entire back side is pretty flat and the right side is more prominent. Now I will say this, we did see some progress on that right side from the repo. Braden is young but is strong and weighs 15 pounds so it is very hard to keep him on his side regardless of our efforts. I can place him on his side and 10 minutes later he will have wiggled (in a dead sleep) onto his back with his hands above his head. For us it just isn't going to work out so we are getting his STARband next Friday. I am not up to speed on repo for an older baby, so I can offer any help to you. One thing I have done is put foam into his car seat under the cover to force his head to the other side so he isn't lying on his right side all the time. He pulls that way due to his tort. But some foam may be something for you to consider while your working on this to reduce the amount of pressure. Good luck to you! Bland <lindsaygeebee@...> wrote: Hello everyone, I am wondering if 5-6 months is too old to do any good with repositioning? At a minimum, I'm trying to prevent any further flattening and am changing Sydney's position in her crib, using a noggin nest and front carrier, trying to minimize any time in her car seat, etc. Still, I'm cringing every time I put her down for a nap or to sleep, due to the time on her head. Has anyone had any experience trying these techniques at this late of an age? Any other helpful hints would be appreciated. Thanks, Sydney (5 months, awaiting diagnosis) Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 Hi ! My son Braden was diagnosed with plagio at 2 months and we tried aggressive repositioning but a month later we ended up with him having brach and plagio. The entire back side is pretty flat and the right side is more prominent. Now I will say this, we did see some progress on that right side from the repo. Braden is young but is strong and weighs 15 pounds so it is very hard to keep him on his side regardless of our efforts. I can place him on his side and 10 minutes later he will have wiggled (in a dead sleep) onto his back with his hands above his head. For us it just isn't going to work out so we are getting his STARband next Friday. I am not up to speed on repo for an older baby, so I can offer any help to you. One thing I have done is put foam into his car seat under the cover to force his head to the other side so he isn't lying on his right side all the time. He pulls that way due to his tort. But some foam may be something for you to consider while your working on this to reduce the amount of pressure. Good luck to you! Bland <lindsaygeebee@...> wrote: Hello everyone, I am wondering if 5-6 months is too old to do any good with repositioning? At a minimum, I'm trying to prevent any further flattening and am changing Sydney's position in her crib, using a noggin nest and front carrier, trying to minimize any time in her car seat, etc. Still, I'm cringing every time I put her down for a nap or to sleep, due to the time on her head. Has anyone had any experience trying these techniques at this late of an age? Any other helpful hints would be appreciated. Thanks, Sydney (5 months, awaiting diagnosis) Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 Our pediatrician noticed the flat spot at 2 months and again at 4 months. We started repositioning her at 4 months and had her examination with a craniofacial specialist at 5 months. Between 5 and 6 months she improved very little in some ways and got worse in others. Our only option is the band and we get it on Feb. 21. We used the noggin nest and put her on her side to sleep (which she too would wiggle out of). We kept her off her back as much as possible but it still didn't help. A difference in my baby and yours is that mine is a foster child and she was drug exposed in the womb leaving her with a softer skull than normal. For us I think we could have repositioned from the beginning and still not seen results. Has Sydney already been measured? If not, I would get her measured now and then again in about 3-4 weeks and see if there is improvement. From what I understand, at 6 months is a great age to start the band. > > Hello everyone, > > I am wondering if 5-6 months is too old to do any good with repositioning? At a minimum, I'm trying to prevent any further flattening and am changing Sydney's position in her crib, using a noggin nest and front carrier, trying to minimize any time in her car seat, etc. Still, I'm cringing every time I put her down for a nap or to sleep, due to the time on her head. Has anyone had any experience trying these techniques at this late of an age? Any other helpful hints would be appreciated. > > Thanks, > > > Sydney (5 months, awaiting diagnosis) > > > --------------------------------- > > Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 Our pediatrician noticed the flat spot at 2 months and again at 4 months. We started repositioning her at 4 months and had her examination with a craniofacial specialist at 5 months. Between 5 and 6 months she improved very little in some ways and got worse in others. Our only option is the band and we get it on Feb. 21. We used the noggin nest and put her on her side to sleep (which she too would wiggle out of). We kept her off her back as much as possible but it still didn't help. A difference in my baby and yours is that mine is a foster child and she was drug exposed in the womb leaving her with a softer skull than normal. For us I think we could have repositioned from the beginning and still not seen results. Has Sydney already been measured? If not, I would get her measured now and then again in about 3-4 weeks and see if there is improvement. From what I understand, at 6 months is a great age to start the band. > > Hello everyone, > > I am wondering if 5-6 months is too old to do any good with repositioning? At a minimum, I'm trying to prevent any further flattening and am changing Sydney's position in her crib, using a noggin nest and front carrier, trying to minimize any time in her car seat, etc. Still, I'm cringing every time I put her down for a nap or to sleep, due to the time on her head. Has anyone had any experience trying these techniques at this late of an age? Any other helpful hints would be appreciated. > > Thanks, > > > Sydney (5 months, awaiting diagnosis) > > > --------------------------------- > > Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 Hey , We repo'd Remy from 5 months to about 13 months or so. She was definitely one of the older start times for repo. We got super correction to her moderate brachy, mild-moderate plagio. If you would like to see her progress pics, they are in the Photos/Before and After Album/Remy 5 7 9 11 months collage. Repo-only success is not as common here as helmets and bands, even with very young babies. For that reason it's always a thrill to see another repo success story. I think that is mainly owing to the fact that up to 80% of plagio babies have tort, and repo'ing a baby with marked tort is very, very difficult. I actually haven't seen any babies who started repo as late as my daughter get the same degree of correction we did, and wouldn't recommend repo for a baby nearing 6 months of age generally speaking, since repo clearly is best used prior to 6 months of age. Remy had dramatic improvement from 5 to 7 months, a little improvement from 7 to 9 months, and a teeny tiny bit from 9 to 11 months. Our repo regimen was very aggressive and pretty much over-the-top. We were desperate for correction, and felt our helmet choices in our area lacking. The biggest contributor to our success was that at 5 months of age, Remy chose to side sleep all on her own. Even so, we had an X10 camera streaming live video of her sleeping to our computer monitor and PIP tv. She also took every single nap in my arms for 3 straight months so that I could intentionally place her head on the bulging part, in an effort to have a " holding " point to redirect growth to the desired areas. I didn't use a bouncie seat or swing ever again. We kept car trips with her to a bare minimum, and if we did take her somewhere in the car, either me or my husband rode in the backseat with her to keep her head turned off of the flat area. When she was in the high chair, I fed her to her left, so that she was turning her head off of the seat back, and her flat area, to see me. Remy was literally never on her back except for diaper changes from 5 months on. I gave her her bottles in my lap facing slightly outward, so that the bulging part of her head rested on my breastbone, to help " hold " that point in. Our philosophy was not to keep her off of her head altogether, but instead, to look for every opportunity to keep her ON bulging areas to mimic in a rudimentary way the action of bands. This type of aggressive repo is very time-consuming, and also requires constant mental attention to properly rotate the point of contact with surfaces. I wrote some documents about repo techniques in the Files section/Repo Headquarters that may be of help to you, if you have'nt already read them. When is Sydney's next appt. or next step regarding a diagnosis? Take care, Christie (Mom to Repo'd Remy) > > Hello everyone, > > I am wondering if 5-6 months is too old to do any good with repositioning? At a minimum, I'm trying to prevent any further flattening and am changing Sydney's position in her crib, using a noggin nest and front carrier, trying to minimize any time in her car seat, etc. Still, I'm cringing every time I put her down for a nap or to sleep, due to the time on her head. Has anyone had any experience trying these techniques at this late of an age? Any other helpful hints would be appreciated. > > Thanks, > > > Sydney (5 months, awaiting diagnosis) > > > --------------------------------- > > Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 Hey , We repo'd Remy from 5 months to about 13 months or so. She was definitely one of the older start times for repo. We got super correction to her moderate brachy, mild-moderate plagio. If you would like to see her progress pics, they are in the Photos/Before and After Album/Remy 5 7 9 11 months collage. Repo-only success is not as common here as helmets and bands, even with very young babies. For that reason it's always a thrill to see another repo success story. I think that is mainly owing to the fact that up to 80% of plagio babies have tort, and repo'ing a baby with marked tort is very, very difficult. I actually haven't seen any babies who started repo as late as my daughter get the same degree of correction we did, and wouldn't recommend repo for a baby nearing 6 months of age generally speaking, since repo clearly is best used prior to 6 months of age. Remy had dramatic improvement from 5 to 7 months, a little improvement from 7 to 9 months, and a teeny tiny bit from 9 to 11 months. Our repo regimen was very aggressive and pretty much over-the-top. We were desperate for correction, and felt our helmet choices in our area lacking. The biggest contributor to our success was that at 5 months of age, Remy chose to side sleep all on her own. Even so, we had an X10 camera streaming live video of her sleeping to our computer monitor and PIP tv. She also took every single nap in my arms for 3 straight months so that I could intentionally place her head on the bulging part, in an effort to have a " holding " point to redirect growth to the desired areas. I didn't use a bouncie seat or swing ever again. We kept car trips with her to a bare minimum, and if we did take her somewhere in the car, either me or my husband rode in the backseat with her to keep her head turned off of the flat area. When she was in the high chair, I fed her to her left, so that she was turning her head off of the seat back, and her flat area, to see me. Remy was literally never on her back except for diaper changes from 5 months on. I gave her her bottles in my lap facing slightly outward, so that the bulging part of her head rested on my breastbone, to help " hold " that point in. Our philosophy was not to keep her off of her head altogether, but instead, to look for every opportunity to keep her ON bulging areas to mimic in a rudimentary way the action of bands. This type of aggressive repo is very time-consuming, and also requires constant mental attention to properly rotate the point of contact with surfaces. I wrote some documents about repo techniques in the Files section/Repo Headquarters that may be of help to you, if you have'nt already read them. When is Sydney's next appt. or next step regarding a diagnosis? Take care, Christie (Mom to Repo'd Remy) > > Hello everyone, > > I am wondering if 5-6 months is too old to do any good with repositioning? At a minimum, I'm trying to prevent any further flattening and am changing Sydney's position in her crib, using a noggin nest and front carrier, trying to minimize any time in her car seat, etc. Still, I'm cringing every time I put her down for a nap or to sleep, due to the time on her head. Has anyone had any experience trying these techniques at this late of an age? Any other helpful hints would be appreciated. > > Thanks, > > > Sydney (5 months, awaiting diagnosis) > > > --------------------------------- > > Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 Hey there Christie, Wow! Thanks so much for the email. What an admirable amount of work and perseverance. I commend you. That's great about Remy's success! Sydney will actually be six months on the 25th of February, but I've been working to keep her off of the back of her head as much as possible for a few weeks now. As much as I'd like, I don't think it's feasible for us to be as aggressive as you all were. During the day now is okay. I'm able to keep the pressure on the back of her head to a minimum, however, at night is a big problem. She is a definite back sleeper and ALWAYS sleeps with her little arms folded back underneath her head. I go in and try to reposition her with her arms out and head to the side, but she will always return to the same position. During the day, when I'm right with her watching, I now put her on her tummy for naps. I don't ever do this at night. The car seat deal is also still an issue, as we live in a very rural area and go into town (an hour's drive each way) on occassion. I don't know if using the noggin nest will help, but will do so whenever we're in the car. Our appointment with the neuro is on Monday. I'll keep you posted! All the best, (Sydney, 5 months, awaiting diagnosis) redlocks2003 <clkline@...> wrote: Hey ,We repo'd Remy from 5 months to about 13 months or so. She wasdefinitely one of the older start times for repo. We got supercorrection to her moderate brachy, mild-moderate plagio. If you wouldlike to see her progress pics, they are in the Photos/Before and AfterAlbum/Remy 5 7 9 11 months collage. Repo-only success is not ascommon here as helmets and bands, even with very young babies. Forthat reason it's always a thrill to see another repo success story. Ithink that is mainly owing to the fact that up to 80% of plagio babieshave tort, and repo'ing a baby with marked tort is very, verydifficult. I actually haven't seen any babies who started repo aslate as my daughter get the same degree of correction we did, andwouldn't recommend repo for a baby nearing 6 months of age generallyspeaking, since repo clearly is best used prior to 6 months of age. Remy had dramatic improvement from 5 to 7 months, a little improvementfrom 7 to 9 months, and a teeny tiny bit from 9 to 11 months. Our repo regimen was very aggressive and pretty much over-the-top. Wewere desperate for correction, and felt our helmet choices in our arealacking. The biggest contributor to our success was that at 5 monthsof age, Remy chose to side sleep all on her own. Even so, we had anX10 camera streaming live video of her sleeping to our computermonitor and PIP tv. She also took every single nap in my arms for 3straight months so that I could intentionally place her head on thebulging part, in an effort to have a "holding" point to redirectgrowth to the desired areas. I didn't use a bouncie seat or swingever again. We kept car trips with her to a bare minimum, and if wedid take her somewhere in the car, either me or my husband rode in thebackseat with her to keep her head turned off of the flat area. Whenshe was in the high chair, I fed her to her left, so that she wasturning her head off of the seat back, and her flat area, to see me. Remy was literally never on her back except for diaper changes from 5months on. I gave her her bottles in my lap facing slightly outward,so that the bulging part of her head rested on my breastbone, to help"hold" that point in. Our philosophy was not to keep her off of herhead altogether, but instead, to look for every opportunity to keepher ON bulging areas to mimic in a rudimentary way the action ofbands. This type of aggressive repo is very time-consuming, and alsorequires constant mental attention to properly rotate the point ofcontact with surfaces. I wrote some documents about repo techniques in the Files section/RepoHeadquarters that may be of help to you, if you have'nt already readthem. When is Sydney's next appt. or next step regarding a diagnosis?Take care,Christie (Mom to Repo'd Remy)>> Hello everyone,> > I am wondering if 5-6 months is too old to do any good withrepositioning? At a minimum, I'm trying to prevent any furtherflattening and am changing Sydney's position in her crib, using anoggin nest and front carrier, trying to minimize any time in her carseat, etc. Still, I'm cringing every time I put her down for a nap orto sleep, due to the time on her head. Has anyone had any experiencetrying these techniques at this late of an age? Any other helpfulhints would be appreciated.> > Thanks,> > > Sydney (5 months, awaiting diagnosis)> > > ---------------------------------> > Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments.>For more plagio info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 Hey there Christie, Wow! Thanks so much for the email. What an admirable amount of work and perseverance. I commend you. That's great about Remy's success! Sydney will actually be six months on the 25th of February, but I've been working to keep her off of the back of her head as much as possible for a few weeks now. As much as I'd like, I don't think it's feasible for us to be as aggressive as you all were. During the day now is okay. I'm able to keep the pressure on the back of her head to a minimum, however, at night is a big problem. She is a definite back sleeper and ALWAYS sleeps with her little arms folded back underneath her head. I go in and try to reposition her with her arms out and head to the side, but she will always return to the same position. During the day, when I'm right with her watching, I now put her on her tummy for naps. I don't ever do this at night. The car seat deal is also still an issue, as we live in a very rural area and go into town (an hour's drive each way) on occassion. I don't know if using the noggin nest will help, but will do so whenever we're in the car. Our appointment with the neuro is on Monday. I'll keep you posted! All the best, (Sydney, 5 months, awaiting diagnosis) redlocks2003 <clkline@...> wrote: Hey ,We repo'd Remy from 5 months to about 13 months or so. She wasdefinitely one of the older start times for repo. We got supercorrection to her moderate brachy, mild-moderate plagio. If you wouldlike to see her progress pics, they are in the Photos/Before and AfterAlbum/Remy 5 7 9 11 months collage. Repo-only success is not ascommon here as helmets and bands, even with very young babies. Forthat reason it's always a thrill to see another repo success story. Ithink that is mainly owing to the fact that up to 80% of plagio babieshave tort, and repo'ing a baby with marked tort is very, verydifficult. I actually haven't seen any babies who started repo aslate as my daughter get the same degree of correction we did, andwouldn't recommend repo for a baby nearing 6 months of age generallyspeaking, since repo clearly is best used prior to 6 months of age. Remy had dramatic improvement from 5 to 7 months, a little improvementfrom 7 to 9 months, and a teeny tiny bit from 9 to 11 months. Our repo regimen was very aggressive and pretty much over-the-top. Wewere desperate for correction, and felt our helmet choices in our arealacking. The biggest contributor to our success was that at 5 monthsof age, Remy chose to side sleep all on her own. Even so, we had anX10 camera streaming live video of her sleeping to our computermonitor and PIP tv. She also took every single nap in my arms for 3straight months so that I could intentionally place her head on thebulging part, in an effort to have a "holding" point to redirectgrowth to the desired areas. I didn't use a bouncie seat or swingever again. We kept car trips with her to a bare minimum, and if wedid take her somewhere in the car, either me or my husband rode in thebackseat with her to keep her head turned off of the flat area. Whenshe was in the high chair, I fed her to her left, so that she wasturning her head off of the seat back, and her flat area, to see me. Remy was literally never on her back except for diaper changes from 5months on. I gave her her bottles in my lap facing slightly outward,so that the bulging part of her head rested on my breastbone, to help"hold" that point in. Our philosophy was not to keep her off of herhead altogether, but instead, to look for every opportunity to keepher ON bulging areas to mimic in a rudimentary way the action ofbands. This type of aggressive repo is very time-consuming, and alsorequires constant mental attention to properly rotate the point ofcontact with surfaces. I wrote some documents about repo techniques in the Files section/RepoHeadquarters that may be of help to you, if you have'nt already readthem. When is Sydney's next appt. or next step regarding a diagnosis?Take care,Christie (Mom to Repo'd Remy)>> Hello everyone,> > I am wondering if 5-6 months is too old to do any good withrepositioning? At a minimum, I'm trying to prevent any furtherflattening and am changing Sydney's position in her crib, using anoggin nest and front carrier, trying to minimize any time in her carseat, etc. Still, I'm cringing every time I put her down for a nap orto sleep, due to the time on her head. Has anyone had any experiencetrying these techniques at this late of an age? Any other helpfulhints would be appreciated.> > Thanks,> > > Sydney (5 months, awaiting diagnosis)> > > ---------------------------------> > Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments.>For more plagio info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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