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Have you tried a token system?

You take a picture of something he wants and cut the picture into four parts.

Every fifteen minutes he gets praise and a piece of the picture. When they

are all put together then he gets whatever it is.

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Have you tried a token system?

You take a picture of something he wants and cut the picture into four parts.

Every fifteen minutes he gets praise and a piece of the picture. When they

are all put together then he gets whatever it is.

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Have you tried a token system?

You take a picture of something he wants and cut the picture into four parts.

Every fifteen minutes he gets praise and a piece of the picture. When they

are all put together then he gets whatever it is.

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Oh Jacquie, I'm sorry but i don't have any great ideas (excepy maybe

duct tape ;-) ). But i do sympathise. Lyndsey is the most afwul

singer and she doesn't know when to give it a rest either and she is

NT !!

Ali

>

> I need to extingish a behaviour, and I am well and truly stumped.

>

> I need to extinguish it because it assaults me auditorially, it is

disrupting in public, and it draws negative attention to him.

>

> He SINGS. Everywhere. Any place, any time. Every place, all the

time. That wouldn't be so bad, but his singing consists of grunting,

moaning, buzzing, and humming the music, off-key, and monotonously.

He does this at a normal singing volume. He KNOWS the words and

melodies, but prefers it this way instead.

>

> Telling him to only sing at home does not help. Correcting him and

distracting him in public does not help. SCREAMING at him in the car

doesn't help. Removing treats or valued things does not help.

Setting up a designated singing time at home does not help.

>

> I need to get this singing to stop. It hurts my head and gives me

a painful headache, partly because of the noise and partly because it

aggravates me with its flashing 'I'm different' sign.

>

> It is not a 'cute' singing. It's not, " awwww, look at that little

boy " type singing. It is " what the hell is wrong with that kid and

why doesn't he just shut up, " singing.

>

> It's starting to make me on edge every time we leave the house.

>

> Ideas? Please?

>

> Jacquie

>

>

>

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Oh Jacquie, I'm sorry but i don't have any great ideas (excepy maybe

duct tape ;-) ). But i do sympathise. Lyndsey is the most afwul

singer and she doesn't know when to give it a rest either and she is

NT !!

Ali

>

> I need to extingish a behaviour, and I am well and truly stumped.

>

> I need to extinguish it because it assaults me auditorially, it is

disrupting in public, and it draws negative attention to him.

>

> He SINGS. Everywhere. Any place, any time. Every place, all the

time. That wouldn't be so bad, but his singing consists of grunting,

moaning, buzzing, and humming the music, off-key, and monotonously.

He does this at a normal singing volume. He KNOWS the words and

melodies, but prefers it this way instead.

>

> Telling him to only sing at home does not help. Correcting him and

distracting him in public does not help. SCREAMING at him in the car

doesn't help. Removing treats or valued things does not help.

Setting up a designated singing time at home does not help.

>

> I need to get this singing to stop. It hurts my head and gives me

a painful headache, partly because of the noise and partly because it

aggravates me with its flashing 'I'm different' sign.

>

> It is not a 'cute' singing. It's not, " awwww, look at that little

boy " type singing. It is " what the hell is wrong with that kid and

why doesn't he just shut up, " singing.

>

> It's starting to make me on edge every time we leave the house.

>

> Ideas? Please?

>

> Jacquie

>

>

>

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Oh Jacquie, I'm sorry but i don't have any great ideas (excepy maybe

duct tape ;-) ). But i do sympathise. Lyndsey is the most afwul

singer and she doesn't know when to give it a rest either and she is

NT !!

Ali

>

> I need to extingish a behaviour, and I am well and truly stumped.

>

> I need to extinguish it because it assaults me auditorially, it is

disrupting in public, and it draws negative attention to him.

>

> He SINGS. Everywhere. Any place, any time. Every place, all the

time. That wouldn't be so bad, but his singing consists of grunting,

moaning, buzzing, and humming the music, off-key, and monotonously.

He does this at a normal singing volume. He KNOWS the words and

melodies, but prefers it this way instead.

>

> Telling him to only sing at home does not help. Correcting him and

distracting him in public does not help. SCREAMING at him in the car

doesn't help. Removing treats or valued things does not help.

Setting up a designated singing time at home does not help.

>

> I need to get this singing to stop. It hurts my head and gives me

a painful headache, partly because of the noise and partly because it

aggravates me with its flashing 'I'm different' sign.

>

> It is not a 'cute' singing. It's not, " awwww, look at that little

boy " type singing. It is " what the hell is wrong with that kid and

why doesn't he just shut up, " singing.

>

> It's starting to make me on edge every time we leave the house.

>

> Ideas? Please?

>

> Jacquie

>

>

>

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>>>>>

He SINGS. Everywhere. Any place, any time. Every

place, all the time. That wouldn't be so bad, but his

singing consists of grunting, moaning, buzzing, and

humming the music, off-key, and monotonously. He does

this at a normal singing volume. He KNOWS the words

and melodies, but prefers it this way instead.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Yup, so does . He also likes to jump up and

down while singing, which is difficult to deal with if

you're at the grocery store or a restaurant or

anywhere public. The only thing that seems to help is

to keep a small hand held game handy ( likes

Tetris and Simon). If I hand him a game, he stops

bouncing and his singing is quieter, almost like he's

humming to himself, which isn't too bad. Magazines

help too, which is why I buy so many Disney Adventures

at the check-out.

I've also noticed that he does this more towards the

end of the day. In the morning he's fairly quiet.

Tuna :)

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How much patience you have, for instance.

- lin P.

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>>>>>

He SINGS. Everywhere. Any place, any time. Every

place, all the time. That wouldn't be so bad, but his

singing consists of grunting, moaning, buzzing, and

humming the music, off-key, and monotonously. He does

this at a normal singing volume. He KNOWS the words

and melodies, but prefers it this way instead.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Yup, so does . He also likes to jump up and

down while singing, which is difficult to deal with if

you're at the grocery store or a restaurant or

anywhere public. The only thing that seems to help is

to keep a small hand held game handy ( likes

Tetris and Simon). If I hand him a game, he stops

bouncing and his singing is quieter, almost like he's

humming to himself, which isn't too bad. Magazines

help too, which is why I buy so many Disney Adventures

at the check-out.

I've also noticed that he does this more towards the

end of the day. In the morning he's fairly quiet.

Tuna :)

=====

You can learn many things from children.

How much patience you have, for instance.

- lin P.

______________________________________________________________________

Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca

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Oh my God, you just described Dillon.

It is so freaking annoying, isn't it?

Give him an instrument and tell him to sing in the shower. The acoustics are

better there.

Sissi

okay, I need help

>

> I need to extingish a behaviour, and I am well and truly stumped.

>

> I need to extinguish it because it assaults me auditorially, it is

disrupting in public, and it draws negative attention to him.

>

> He SINGS. Everywhere. Any place, any time. Every place, all the time.

That wouldn't be so bad, but his singing consists of grunting, moaning,

buzzing, and humming the music, off-key, and monotonously. He does this at

a normal singing volume. He KNOWS the words and melodies, but prefers it

this way instead.

>

> Telling him to only sing at home does not help. Correcting him and

distracting him in public does not help. SCREAMING at him in the car

doesn't help. Removing treats or valued things does not help. Setting up a

designated singing time at home does not help.

>

> I need to get this singing to stop. It hurts my head and gives me a

painful headache, partly because of the noise and partly because it

aggravates me with its flashing 'I'm different' sign.

>

> It is not a 'cute' singing. It's not, " awwww, look at that little boy "

type singing. It is " what the hell is wrong with that kid and why doesn't

he just shut up, " singing.

>

> It's starting to make me on edge every time we leave the house.

>

> Ideas? Please?

>

> Jacquie

>

>

>

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how about a social story? brainstrom a list of the rules for eric's you would

put in place in an ideal world and incorporate it into a story about eric.

because he is literal and literate it might make a difference. just a thought.

michelle mg

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how about a social story? brainstrom a list of the rules for eric's you would

put in place in an ideal world and incorporate it into a story about eric.

because he is literal and literate it might make a difference. just a thought.

michelle mg

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how about a social story? brainstrom a list of the rules for eric's you would

put in place in an ideal world and incorporate it into a story about eric.

because he is literal and literate it might make a difference. just a thought.

michelle mg

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that was meant to say " eric's singing " .

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how about a social story? brainstrom a list of the rules for eric's you would

put in place in an ideal world and incorporate it into a story about eric.

because he is literal and literate it might make a difference. just a thought.

michelle mg

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> --- Why does he sing? and when? Is it because he is using it to

calm

> himself or deal with stressful situations? If it is, then has he

> been doing it for a long time? If these are the reasons then he

will

> need something to replace that behavior with so that he still has

> something to use when he needs it. >

This is pretty much what I was thinking, too...my guess would be that

it is either a way to block out auditory garbage that he can't cope

with (when we talk/sing/vocalize we activate a protective mechanism

in our brains that basically turns down the volume on our auditory

system so that we don't make ourselves dear) or is using the process

of controlling air to calm down when he is in overload.

Choices? Find him other things to calm him...if you think it is air

control, maybe try a string pipe (no sound!); if it is overload,

maybe some theraputty or flour balloon in his hand; for auditory

defensiveness, gum or something crunchy to chew? Sometimes doing

some rocking or bouncing right before leaving to get him into a

better place to start from.

Just experiment...something should work (theoretically...) ;-)

Raena

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> --- Why does he sing? and when? Is it because he is using it to

calm

> himself or deal with stressful situations? If it is, then has he

> been doing it for a long time? If these are the reasons then he

will

> need something to replace that behavior with so that he still has

> something to use when he needs it. >

This is pretty much what I was thinking, too...my guess would be that

it is either a way to block out auditory garbage that he can't cope

with (when we talk/sing/vocalize we activate a protective mechanism

in our brains that basically turns down the volume on our auditory

system so that we don't make ourselves dear) or is using the process

of controlling air to calm down when he is in overload.

Choices? Find him other things to calm him...if you think it is air

control, maybe try a string pipe (no sound!); if it is overload,

maybe some theraputty or flour balloon in his hand; for auditory

defensiveness, gum or something crunchy to chew? Sometimes doing

some rocking or bouncing right before leaving to get him into a

better place to start from.

Just experiment...something should work (theoretically...) ;-)

Raena

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>

> You know, these are GREAT thoughts...but not applicable. You'd

think that yes, in public this could be a coping mechanism, but he

does it at home too. And in the car. And in the bathtub. In bed in

the morning before getting up. EVERYWHERE.

>

> <sigh>

>

> Oh, and BTW -- he DOES NOT do it during class time. He CHOOSES not

to. He told me so.

>

does the same thing with her humming. It's a lot like 's

meltdowns after school though. She's worked so hard not to hum and to

behave at school all day that when she gets in the car and home, it's

a non-stop hum session for HOURS. I remind her not to do it, and she

says " Oops! Sorry! " in a giggling tone, then starts right back up

within 2 minutes. I've tried distracting her but it's not working. I

can't give her anything to chew on because she hates to chew. She

never put things in her mouth as a baby either. The only thing that

ever seems to work is a little deep pressure, but she tires of that

quickly and is right back to the humming in about 15 minutes.

Tina

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> This is pretty much what I was thinking, too...my guess would be that

> it is either a way to block out auditory garbage that he can't cope

> with (when we talk/sing/vocalize we activate a protective mechanism

> in our brains that basically turns down the volume on our auditory

> system so that we don't make ourselves dear) or is using the process

> of controlling air to calm down when he is in overload.

You know, these are GREAT thoughts...but not applicable. You'd think that

yes, in public this could be a coping mechanism, but he does it at home too.

And in the car. And in the bathtub. In bed in the morning before getting

up. EVERYWHERE.

<sigh>

Oh, and BTW -- he DOES NOT do it during class time. He CHOOSES not to. He

told me so.

<bigger sigh>

Jacquie

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> This is pretty much what I was thinking, too...my guess would be that

> it is either a way to block out auditory garbage that he can't cope

> with (when we talk/sing/vocalize we activate a protective mechanism

> in our brains that basically turns down the volume on our auditory

> system so that we don't make ourselves dear) or is using the process

> of controlling air to calm down when he is in overload.

You know, these are GREAT thoughts...but not applicable. You'd think that

yes, in public this could be a coping mechanism, but he does it at home too.

And in the car. And in the bathtub. In bed in the morning before getting

up. EVERYWHERE.

<sigh>

Oh, and BTW -- he DOES NOT do it during class time. He CHOOSES not to. He

told me so.

<bigger sigh>

Jacquie

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> This is pretty much what I was thinking, too...my guess would be that

> it is either a way to block out auditory garbage that he can't cope

> with (when we talk/sing/vocalize we activate a protective mechanism

> in our brains that basically turns down the volume on our auditory

> system so that we don't make ourselves dear) or is using the process

> of controlling air to calm down when he is in overload.

You know, these are GREAT thoughts...but not applicable. You'd think that

yes, in public this could be a coping mechanism, but he does it at home too.

And in the car. And in the bathtub. In bed in the morning before getting

up. EVERYWHERE.

<sigh>

Oh, and BTW -- he DOES NOT do it during class time. He CHOOSES not to. He

told me so.

<bigger sigh>

Jacquie

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