Re: Thoughts and concerns on Enrique: PLEASE READ!

[Guest guest]

> So I feel that if Enrique could so desperately misread a situation (even a

desperate misreading for an AS kid) that perhaps he and Dr. Kaye are really

just not right for each other?

>

Sounds like it. :-(

I won't say I disagree with Dr Kaye's statement that Enrique is manipulating

situations -- but shouldn't a therapist know that the kid doesn't REALIZE

he's manipulating, and that telling him he is, just straight out and blunt

like that, will only alienate him??? I mean, shit, *I* know that! (and I'm

blunt to a fault!)

Damn. I hate it when a good thing falls through.

Jacquie

[Guest guest]

> So I feel that if Enrique could so desperately misread a situation (even a

desperate misreading for an AS kid) that perhaps he and Dr. Kaye are really

just not right for each other?

>

Sounds like it. :-(

I won't say I disagree with Dr Kaye's statement that Enrique is manipulating

situations -- but shouldn't a therapist know that the kid doesn't REALIZE

he's manipulating, and that telling him he is, just straight out and blunt

like that, will only alienate him??? I mean, shit, *I* know that! (and I'm

blunt to a fault!)

Damn. I hate it when a good thing falls through.

Jacquie

[Guest guest]

> Last fall, Enrique began sessions with a psychologist who I called

The Amazing Dr. Kaye. They had some very happy and positive sessions

with Dr. Kaye assuring Enrique that he could learn by the power of

thought to overcome his scary thinking.

>

> It seemed like it would work.>

> Thoughts?

>

> Salli

I think if it is causing this much stress for the both of you that

perhaps a new therapist is in order. As long as he's still willing to

go to a therapist, it may be best to change before he distrusts them

all.

Kerri

[Guest guest]

> Last fall, Enrique began sessions with a psychologist who I called

The Amazing Dr. Kaye. They had some very happy and positive sessions

with Dr. Kaye assuring Enrique that he could learn by the power of

thought to overcome his scary thinking.

>

> It seemed like it would work.>

> Thoughts?

>

> Salli

I think if it is causing this much stress for the both of you that

perhaps a new therapist is in order. As long as he's still willing to

go to a therapist, it may be best to change before he distrusts them

all.

Kerri

[Guest guest]

>> I hate the fact that there is no decent psychiatrist and I am

> trying to figure out Enrique meds with a pediatrician and Putter's

> psychologist (not even Enrique's!), and the internet. >

That is one thing I am really grateful for...we have an excellent

psychiatrist for ' meds. The pediatrician said long ago that

this was out of her field of expertise.

Raena

[Guest guest]

>> I hate the fact that there is no decent psychiatrist and I am

> trying to figure out Enrique meds with a pediatrician and Putter's

> psychologist (not even Enrique's!), and the internet. >

That is one thing I am really grateful for...we have an excellent

psychiatrist for ' meds. The pediatrician said long ago that

this was out of her field of expertise.

Raena

[Guest guest]

>> I hate the fact that there is no decent psychiatrist and I am

> trying to figure out Enrique meds with a pediatrician and Putter's

> psychologist (not even Enrique's!), and the internet. >

That is one thing I am really grateful for...we have an excellent

psychiatrist for ' meds. The pediatrician said long ago that

this was out of her field of expertise.

Raena

[Guest guest]

I would find another Dr. Although Enrique reminds me of Kiki is the fact that

trust seems to be broken so easily. But it is very hard to not break that trust

when there are so many things that can break it. I think that Enrique may have

been embarassed (and this does seem to be one of his big problems) when

confronted with his behaviour but the observation seems to be true. He may not

mean to be that way but none the less it is what he is doing. Poor Enrique. I

really do feel for him. But how do you tell him what he needs to hear without

making him so upset? And how do you get him help if he no longer trusts you. I

do think that trust can be rebuilt and that now is the time to do whatever it

takes to get him help because soon her will be an adult and you can no longer

make them do anything they dont feel they need to. This of course is the law. I

know because we struggle with getting my sister help. So what I am saying is

that we will eventually get over feeling betrayed if you get him the help he

needs to be as healthy as possible. It may takes a long time but thats ok. I

know this is hard for all of you.

Jacquie H

[Guest guest]

I would find another Dr. Although Enrique reminds me of Kiki is the fact that

trust seems to be broken so easily. But it is very hard to not break that trust

when there are so many things that can break it. I think that Enrique may have

been embarassed (and this does seem to be one of his big problems) when

confronted with his behaviour but the observation seems to be true. He may not

mean to be that way but none the less it is what he is doing. Poor Enrique. I

really do feel for him. But how do you tell him what he needs to hear without

making him so upset? And how do you get him help if he no longer trusts you. I

do think that trust can be rebuilt and that now is the time to do whatever it

takes to get him help because soon her will be an adult and you can no longer

make them do anything they dont feel they need to. This of course is the law. I

know because we struggle with getting my sister help. So what I am saying is

that we will eventually get over feeling betrayed if you get him the help he

needs to be as healthy as possible. It may takes a long time but thats ok. I

know this is hard for all of you.

Jacquie H

[Guest guest]

I would find another Dr. Although Enrique reminds me of Kiki is the fact that

trust seems to be broken so easily. But it is very hard to not break that trust

when there are so many things that can break it. I think that Enrique may have

been embarassed (and this does seem to be one of his big problems) when

confronted with his behaviour but the observation seems to be true. He may not

mean to be that way but none the less it is what he is doing. Poor Enrique. I

really do feel for him. But how do you tell him what he needs to hear without

making him so upset? And how do you get him help if he no longer trusts you. I

do think that trust can be rebuilt and that now is the time to do whatever it

takes to get him help because soon her will be an adult and you can no longer

make them do anything they dont feel they need to. This of course is the law. I

know because we struggle with getting my sister help. So what I am saying is

that we will eventually get over feeling betrayed if you get him the help he

needs to be as healthy as possible. It may takes a long time but thats ok. I

know this is hard for all of you.

Jacquie H

[Guest guest]

Salli,

I'm so sorry to read that things are going so badly for Enrique. I'm

at a loss for what else to say, it's truly heartbreaking.

My personal opinion at this point is that everyone involved with us

in any way, shape, or form as a professional service provider is

transitory. If things don't work, it's over. It's just my opinion,

but from this note, I can't see what Dr. Kaye could possibly do to

get past something that's not necessarily based on a rational thought

process from Enrique, but is a result of the condition. Perhaps

Enrique's condition/mental state precludes any " power of thought "

approach for the moment?

I'm thinking of 's preschool teacher, who, at the end of his

time there, decided that she could hand-on-hand/soft-discipline him

into not having anxiety breakdowns in the classroom. Things got much,

much worse...whether she was a qualified, caring teacher or not had

little bearing on a situation where his nervous system took over

completely. It took medication and a new classroom/teacher to change

the behaviour.

But most of my thoughts are just of sympathy and hope for the best

outcome, both for Enrique and your whole family.

A

> Last fall, Enrique began sessions with a psychologist who I called

The Amazing Dr. Kaye. They had some very happy and positive sessions

with Dr. Kaye assuring Enrique that he could learn by the power of

thought to overcome his scary thinking.

>

> It seemed like it would work.

>

> However, Enrique deteriorated through the fall, his anxiety growing

greater and greater.