Re: Re: Thoughts and concerns on Enrique: PLEASE READ!

[Guest guest]

Personally, my

> answer is to medicate medicate medicate. Sissi, if you would just

> medicate Boone then you would have no more problems. Same with

> Putter and Enrique, and same with..........LOL, don't take me

> seriously, I'm just kidding.

Medicate them right out of autism, eh?

Well, I would with Enrique if we had found anything that actually worked.

Salli

[Guest guest]

Personally, my

> answer is to medicate medicate medicate. Sissi, if you would just

> medicate Boone then you would have no more problems. Same with

> Putter and Enrique, and same with..........LOL, don't take me

> seriously, I'm just kidding.

Medicate them right out of autism, eh?

Well, I would with Enrique if we had found anything that actually worked.

Salli

[Guest guest]

Personally, my

> answer is to medicate medicate medicate. Sissi, if you would just

> medicate Boone then you would have no more problems. Same with

> Putter and Enrique, and same with..........LOL, don't take me

> seriously, I'm just kidding.

Medicate them right out of autism, eh?

Well, I would with Enrique if we had found anything that actually worked.

Salli

[Guest guest]

We are still working on meds and therapy here with

> > Gail, who seems to be unraveling on us again also, although she does

> > not have the rage problems. That is Chris's domain. If it were my

> > child I would be searching for a different therapist/psych and still

> > working on the medications for the anxiety. Gail takes Remeron

Hmm. Let me look it up and see what I think.

I hate the fact that there is no decent psychiatrist and I am trying to

figure out Enrique meds with a pediatrician and Putter's psychologist (not

even Enrique's!), and the internet.

Salli

[Guest guest]

We are still working on meds and therapy here with

> > Gail, who seems to be unraveling on us again also, although she does

> > not have the rage problems. That is Chris's domain. If it were my

> > child I would be searching for a different therapist/psych and still

> > working on the medications for the anxiety. Gail takes Remeron

Hmm. Let me look it up and see what I think.

I hate the fact that there is no decent psychiatrist and I am trying to

figure out Enrique meds with a pediatrician and Putter's psychologist (not

even Enrique's!), and the internet.

Salli

[Guest guest]

We are still working on meds and therapy here with

> > Gail, who seems to be unraveling on us again also, although she does

> > not have the rage problems. That is Chris's domain. If it were my

> > child I would be searching for a different therapist/psych and still

> > working on the medications for the anxiety. Gail takes Remeron

Hmm. Let me look it up and see what I think.

I hate the fact that there is no decent psychiatrist and I am trying to

figure out Enrique meds with a pediatrician and Putter's psychologist (not

even Enrique's!), and the internet.

Salli

[Guest guest]

> I'm sorry Salli, I really am. I'm really worried about this Dr who

> is working with Enrique. I don't understand the background, so I

> don't understand why he's worried about manipulating.

I think he believes that Enrique has panic attacks to control things.

Sometimes it

> is good to be direct with kids, to get them to face their fears, but

> it has to be done theraputically, you know? I think this DR may be

> trying to do a good thing, but is going about it wrong. Does that

> make sense?

>

Does it make sense? Well, it is pretty much what I think so yes, it does.

Salli

[Guest guest]

> I'm sorry Salli, I really am. I'm really worried about this Dr who

> is working with Enrique. I don't understand the background, so I

> don't understand why he's worried about manipulating.

I think he believes that Enrique has panic attacks to control things.

Sometimes it

> is good to be direct with kids, to get them to face their fears, but

> it has to be done theraputically, you know? I think this DR may be

> trying to do a good thing, but is going about it wrong. Does that

> make sense?

>

Does it make sense? Well, it is pretty much what I think so yes, it does.

Salli

[Guest guest]

> I'm sorry Salli, I really am. I'm really worried about this Dr who

> is working with Enrique. I don't understand the background, so I

> don't understand why he's worried about manipulating.

I think he believes that Enrique has panic attacks to control things.

Sometimes it

> is good to be direct with kids, to get them to face their fears, but

> it has to be done theraputically, you know? I think this DR may be

> trying to do a good thing, but is going about it wrong. Does that

> make sense?

>

Does it make sense? Well, it is pretty much what I think so yes, it does.

Salli

[Guest guest]

> That will only cause MORE anxiety when he cannot control his physical

> symptoms through " positive thinking. " Thought control, relaxation

> techniques, etc have their place & can be most helpful, but it must be

> understood by all parties that there is more to it than that.

This is what Enrique always says. Of course, he only tells ME.

>

> Perhaps someone who knows about panic disorders would be more suited to

> working with him just now? Possibly a psychiatrist, who could combine

> therapy and medication?

>

Ah, a good psychiatrist. Yes, we need one.

Salli

[Guest guest]

> That will only cause MORE anxiety when he cannot control his physical

> symptoms through " positive thinking. " Thought control, relaxation

> techniques, etc have their place & can be most helpful, but it must be

> understood by all parties that there is more to it than that.

This is what Enrique always says. Of course, he only tells ME.

>

> Perhaps someone who knows about panic disorders would be more suited to

> working with him just now? Possibly a psychiatrist, who could combine

> therapy and medication?

>

Ah, a good psychiatrist. Yes, we need one.

Salli

[Guest guest]

> That will only cause MORE anxiety when he cannot control his physical

> symptoms through " positive thinking. " Thought control, relaxation

> techniques, etc have their place & can be most helpful, but it must be

> understood by all parties that there is more to it than that.

This is what Enrique always says. Of course, he only tells ME.

>

> Perhaps someone who knows about panic disorders would be more suited to

> working with him just now? Possibly a psychiatrist, who could combine

> therapy and medication?

>

Ah, a good psychiatrist. Yes, we need one.

Salli

[Guest guest]

> Salli, tell me again, how old is Enrique?

>

>

He'll be sixteen on January 31.

[Guest guest]

> Salli, tell me again, how old is Enrique?

>

>

He'll be sixteen on January 31.

[Guest guest]

Sissi, if you would just

> medicate Boone then you would have no more problems.

Actually Boone is on Clonidine for anxiety, stress and sleep problems. I

resisted as long as possible but I finally had to something. He was

miserable and so was everybody else.

We still have problems. But at least he's not a total wreck.

Sissi

[Guest guest]

Sissi, if you would just

> medicate Boone then you would have no more problems.

Actually Boone is on Clonidine for anxiety, stress and sleep problems. I

resisted as long as possible but I finally had to something. He was

miserable and so was everybody else.

We still have problems. But at least he's not a total wreck.

Sissi

[Guest guest]

Sissi, if you would just

> medicate Boone then you would have no more problems.

Actually Boone is on Clonidine for anxiety, stress and sleep problems. I

resisted as long as possible but I finally had to something. He was

miserable and so was everybody else.

We still have problems. But at least he's not a total wreck.

Sissi

[Guest guest]

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Salli

Maybe you can post here and find someone?

[Guest guest]

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http://www.talkautism.org/FindExpert.asp</A>

Salli

Maybe you can post here and find someone?

[Guest guest]

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http://www.talkautism.org/FindExpert.asp</A>

Salli

Maybe you can post here and find someone?

[Guest guest]

> I have just realized that Dr. Kaye does not know anything about Enrique's

> father except, probably, that he seems like a nice guy.

That might be something to change, or to remember for the next therapist.

> Do you think Dr. Kaye said this on purpose? (about being

> > manipulative)

> >

> I think he said it intending to shock Enrique out of his behaviors. But I

> am not sure that is possible.

I am quite sure that it is not. You should make sure that whoever is

working with Enrique understands that there are PHYSICAL reasons for his

behavior. Can he learn to control his behavior? Absolutely. But Enrique

does NOT need to hear that it's all in his head. It isn't, and he does not

need to be made to feel that he is just not trying hard enough or whatever.

That will only cause MORE anxiety when he cannot control his physical

symptoms through " positive thinking. " Thought control, relaxation

techniques, etc have their place & can be most helpful, but it must be

understood by all parties that there is more to it than that.

Perhaps someone who knows about panic disorders would be more suited to

working with him just now? Possibly a psychiatrist, who could combine

therapy and medication?

Probably I should have stopped a few posts back...

-Sara.

[Guest guest]

> I have just realized that Dr. Kaye does not know anything about Enrique's

> father except, probably, that he seems like a nice guy.

That might be something to change, or to remember for the next therapist.

> Do you think Dr. Kaye said this on purpose? (about being

> > manipulative)

> >

> I think he said it intending to shock Enrique out of his behaviors. But I

> am not sure that is possible.

I am quite sure that it is not. You should make sure that whoever is

working with Enrique understands that there are PHYSICAL reasons for his

behavior. Can he learn to control his behavior? Absolutely. But Enrique

does NOT need to hear that it's all in his head. It isn't, and he does not

need to be made to feel that he is just not trying hard enough or whatever.

That will only cause MORE anxiety when he cannot control his physical

symptoms through " positive thinking. " Thought control, relaxation

techniques, etc have their place & can be most helpful, but it must be

understood by all parties that there is more to it than that.

Perhaps someone who knows about panic disorders would be more suited to

working with him just now? Possibly a psychiatrist, who could combine

therapy and medication?

Probably I should have stopped a few posts back...

-Sara.

[Guest guest]

> I have just realized that Dr. Kaye does not know anything about Enrique's

> father except, probably, that he seems like a nice guy.

That might be something to change, or to remember for the next therapist.

> Do you think Dr. Kaye said this on purpose? (about being

> > manipulative)

> >

> I think he said it intending to shock Enrique out of his behaviors. But I

> am not sure that is possible.

I am quite sure that it is not. You should make sure that whoever is

working with Enrique understands that there are PHYSICAL reasons for his

behavior. Can he learn to control his behavior? Absolutely. But Enrique

does NOT need to hear that it's all in his head. It isn't, and he does not

need to be made to feel that he is just not trying hard enough or whatever.

That will only cause MORE anxiety when he cannot control his physical

symptoms through " positive thinking. " Thought control, relaxation

techniques, etc have their place & can be most helpful, but it must be

understood by all parties that there is more to it than that.

Perhaps someone who knows about panic disorders would be more suited to

working with him just now? Possibly a psychiatrist, who could combine

therapy and medication?

Probably I should have stopped a few posts back...

-Sara.

[Guest guest]

Ok I'm totally out of my depths here, but I think is on the right

track. Dr. Kaye may have been a good fit in the past, but situations change

.... Perhaps a fresh perspective and a clean slate would be better for

Enrique. I would also think about re-evaluating the med situation. I once

had a friend (a wonderful well-adjusted person) who told me about his

struggles with overwhelming anxieties and phobias. And I asked, " how did

you over come it? " And he looked at me and said " with Prozac, how else! "

: ) I don't know what meds are appropriate here, but some thought patterns

cannot be changed with talk-therapy alone.

my uninformed 2 cents,

Re: Thoughts and concerns on Enrique: PLEASE

READ!

> I think that perhaps Enrique would benefit from a different

> therapist. It does indeed seem that he is not making progress with

> Dr. Kaye any longer. I wish I knew what to tell you, but it is such

> a slow process. We are still working on meds and therapy here with

> Gail, who seems to be unraveling on us again also, although she does

> not have the rage problems. That is Chris's domain. If it were my

> child I would be searching for a different therapist/psych and still

> working on the medications for the anxiety. Gail takes Remeron and

> this is the first medication that has reduced her overal anxiety

> level, although we are supplementing it with lorazepam prn right

> now. It really is all so very frustrating.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Ok I'm totally out of my depths here, but I think is on the right

track. Dr. Kaye may have been a good fit in the past, but situations change

.... Perhaps a fresh perspective and a clean slate would be better for

Enrique. I would also think about re-evaluating the med situation. I once

had a friend (a wonderful well-adjusted person) who told me about his

struggles with overwhelming anxieties and phobias. And I asked, " how did

you over come it? " And he looked at me and said " with Prozac, how else! "

: ) I don't know what meds are appropriate here, but some thought patterns

cannot be changed with talk-therapy alone.

my uninformed 2 cents,

Re: Thoughts and concerns on Enrique: PLEASE

READ!

> I think that perhaps Enrique would benefit from a different

> therapist. It does indeed seem that he is not making progress with

> Dr. Kaye any longer. I wish I knew what to tell you, but it is such

> a slow process. We are still working on meds and therapy here with

> Gail, who seems to be unraveling on us again also, although she does

> not have the rage problems. That is Chris's domain. If it were my

> child I would be searching for a different therapist/psych and still

> working on the medications for the anxiety. Gail takes Remeron and

> this is the first medication that has reduced her overal anxiety

> level, although we are supplementing it with lorazepam prn right

> now. It really is all so very frustrating.

>

>

>

>

>