Guest guest Posted May 4, 2004 Report Share Posted May 4, 2004 Tony, Good to hear from you and to find out your transplant was a great success, in spite of the anesthesia/pain problem. My son had a somewhat similar but not as dramatic experience with his transplant. He apparently got more anesthesia than he needed and did not start breathing again on his own. Normally the stopping of the anesthesia is timed so that when surgery is all done and the breathing tube is removed, you will start breathing again on your own. However, my son didn't, and so the standard protocol is to inject Narcan, which blocks all effects of narcotics and anesthesia by binding to the narcotics receptors in the brain. So you go very rapidly from being overly anesthetized, as in not breathing, to having no anesthesia at all in your system. My son described it as suddenly being " screamingly " awake, although he couldn't actually scream because his throat was so dry and irritated from the breathing tube which had just been removed. All that came out was " eeeee " over and over. The nurses noticed that and said " oh good, you're awake " but that's all. He was frantic to let them know how much pain he was in, so he thought of pantomiming pressing the button for the morphine pump, which had been explained to us before the surgeries. So he held up his fist and pumped his thumb up and down. One of the nurses laughed and said, " oh, you want your morphine pump, " and they started it for him (probably set for lower than usual doses). I was just out of recovery as the donor and was told he had had breathing problems during surgery but that's all, so I was pretty frantic for a while until we got more information on what was going on. He had to stay in recovery several hours longer than usual to see how he was reacting to the morphine. Later on, he was told that he should mention this if he has to have surgery again so they use a lower dose of anesthesia during the surgery. Ironically my other son had a tonsillectomy six months later and stopped breathing in the recovery room, due apparently to oversensitivity to morphine, and they had to " bag " him to get him breathing again. I was sitting with him at the time, and it was quite horrifying to observe. So they both have to be careful about this in the future. Take care - Betsy > Hi everyone. > I know its been some time since I left to go have my transplant > surgery. The surgery didnt go as well as expected. But not because of > the kidney or the surgeons involved. The difficulty stemmed from an > unknown X-factor in my metabolic system. Unbeknowst to anyone I have > a very low tolerance for narcotic, that and an exceedingly high pain > threshold. This tolerance inbalance cause me to code during surgery. > Now before anyone of you freak, Yes< I was dead for a complete 4 > minutes, and its not all they crack it up to be. There was no light, > no floating over my body, damn there werent even any relatives > waiting for me. Maybe they just forgot to pay the electric bill in > heaven, and the tram car from hell was out of gas; either way... I'm > back. > The doctors weren't too concerned with losing me, they never > even told my family. I found out the next day when the dotors > explained to me why they wouldnt give me anything for the pain. This > also bought to light all the events I recalled after waking up. > > Now this part may scare some, but its just an individula account > due to my sensitivity to the anesthesia and the need to wake me up. > I awoke in what seemed the most intense pain of my life. Never > having had any real surgery there's not alot to compare it to. I was > tied to the bed, as it turns out i became violent and tried my cath > out and hit a nurse. I had tubes in my nose, my throat, my arm, my > privates, and a burning sensation from the last tube mentioned. I > recall begging the doctors to take them out, and if they would they > wouldnt have to tie me to the bed anymore. I was unaware at this > time that the doctors had been smacking me in the face trying to > get a reaction from me, and this was 12 hours after my surgery. > In my mind I felt fine and didnt need any of these things > anymore. I was wrong of course and once I calmed down and caught up > with my senses I relaized what had happened. I felt so bad for the > nurse who was the brunt of my outbreak. So for the next 48 hours I > laid in sweat from the pain, the doctors feared for my health based > on the reaction to the medication admisitered during surgery, so I > was denied any pain meds until late day 2. At that time small doses > of morphine was injected .025mg. ( anyone who has never had morphine, > it's like a warm blanket being wrapped around you on a cold winter > morning) > Thankfully that was the worst part of it. My creatinine had > dropped from 6.7 the morning of the surgery to 1.4 the following > morning. I was release on Friday follwoing the surgery and have > made multiple return trips to have bloodwoek and monitor my > medication. > I am approaching my 2 month anniversary with Schmeagle (my > precious) and my creatinine is at 1.1, the doses have been > gradually decreased and I feel like a new person. My energy levels > have increased and I look great. There has been very few side effects > from the drugs which they warned me of prior, but so far all i have > noticed is a mild case of acne on my shoulders and back and a > little weight gain. I'm at a Healthy looking 170 lbs. Initially I was > between 155 and 165. Oh Yeah, and my hair started growing in. I've > been somewhat bald for the past 10 years So YIPPEEE! > I know many of yo may have questions, either regarding the > surgery, or the aftercare, the meds or whatever. I'm happy to answer > them. Just ask. > > TonyC and Schmeagle (my precious) > > > > To edit your settings for the group, go to our Yahoo Group > home page: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iga-nephropathy/ > > To unsubcribe via email, > iga-nephropathy-unsubscribe > Visit our companion website at www.igan.ca. The site is entirely > supported by donations. If you would like to help, go to: > http://www.igan.ca/id62.htm > > Thank you > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2004 Report Share Posted May 4, 2004 Tony, Good to hear from you and to find out your transplant was a great success, in spite of the anesthesia/pain problem. My son had a somewhat similar but not as dramatic experience with his transplant. He apparently got more anesthesia than he needed and did not start breathing again on his own. Normally the stopping of the anesthesia is timed so that when surgery is all done and the breathing tube is removed, you will start breathing again on your own. However, my son didn't, and so the standard protocol is to inject Narcan, which blocks all effects of narcotics and anesthesia by binding to the narcotics receptors in the brain. So you go very rapidly from being overly anesthetized, as in not breathing, to having no anesthesia at all in your system. My son described it as suddenly being " screamingly " awake, although he couldn't actually scream because his throat was so dry and irritated from the breathing tube which had just been removed. All that came out was " eeeee " over and over. The nurses noticed that and said " oh good, you're awake " but that's all. He was frantic to let them know how much pain he was in, so he thought of pantomiming pressing the button for the morphine pump, which had been explained to us before the surgeries. So he held up his fist and pumped his thumb up and down. One of the nurses laughed and said, " oh, you want your morphine pump, " and they started it for him (probably set for lower than usual doses). I was just out of recovery as the donor and was told he had had breathing problems during surgery but that's all, so I was pretty frantic for a while until we got more information on what was going on. He had to stay in recovery several hours longer than usual to see how he was reacting to the morphine. Later on, he was told that he should mention this if he has to have surgery again so they use a lower dose of anesthesia during the surgery. Ironically my other son had a tonsillectomy six months later and stopped breathing in the recovery room, due apparently to oversensitivity to morphine, and they had to " bag " him to get him breathing again. I was sitting with him at the time, and it was quite horrifying to observe. So they both have to be careful about this in the future. Take care - Betsy > Hi everyone. > I know its been some time since I left to go have my transplant > surgery. The surgery didnt go as well as expected. But not because of > the kidney or the surgeons involved. The difficulty stemmed from an > unknown X-factor in my metabolic system. Unbeknowst to anyone I have > a very low tolerance for narcotic, that and an exceedingly high pain > threshold. This tolerance inbalance cause me to code during surgery. > Now before anyone of you freak, Yes< I was dead for a complete 4 > minutes, and its not all they crack it up to be. There was no light, > no floating over my body, damn there werent even any relatives > waiting for me. Maybe they just forgot to pay the electric bill in > heaven, and the tram car from hell was out of gas; either way... I'm > back. > The doctors weren't too concerned with losing me, they never > even told my family. I found out the next day when the dotors > explained to me why they wouldnt give me anything for the pain. This > also bought to light all the events I recalled after waking up. > > Now this part may scare some, but its just an individula account > due to my sensitivity to the anesthesia and the need to wake me up. > I awoke in what seemed the most intense pain of my life. Never > having had any real surgery there's not alot to compare it to. I was > tied to the bed, as it turns out i became violent and tried my cath > out and hit a nurse. I had tubes in my nose, my throat, my arm, my > privates, and a burning sensation from the last tube mentioned. I > recall begging the doctors to take them out, and if they would they > wouldnt have to tie me to the bed anymore. I was unaware at this > time that the doctors had been smacking me in the face trying to > get a reaction from me, and this was 12 hours after my surgery. > In my mind I felt fine and didnt need any of these things > anymore. I was wrong of course and once I calmed down and caught up > with my senses I relaized what had happened. I felt so bad for the > nurse who was the brunt of my outbreak. So for the next 48 hours I > laid in sweat from the pain, the doctors feared for my health based > on the reaction to the medication admisitered during surgery, so I > was denied any pain meds until late day 2. At that time small doses > of morphine was injected .025mg. ( anyone who has never had morphine, > it's like a warm blanket being wrapped around you on a cold winter > morning) > Thankfully that was the worst part of it. My creatinine had > dropped from 6.7 the morning of the surgery to 1.4 the following > morning. I was release on Friday follwoing the surgery and have > made multiple return trips to have bloodwoek and monitor my > medication. > I am approaching my 2 month anniversary with Schmeagle (my > precious) and my creatinine is at 1.1, the doses have been > gradually decreased and I feel like a new person. My energy levels > have increased and I look great. There has been very few side effects > from the drugs which they warned me of prior, but so far all i have > noticed is a mild case of acne on my shoulders and back and a > little weight gain. I'm at a Healthy looking 170 lbs. Initially I was > between 155 and 165. Oh Yeah, and my hair started growing in. I've > been somewhat bald for the past 10 years So YIPPEEE! > I know many of yo may have questions, either regarding the > surgery, or the aftercare, the meds or whatever. I'm happy to answer > them. Just ask. > > TonyC and Schmeagle (my precious) > > > > To edit your settings for the group, go to our Yahoo Group > home page: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iga-nephropathy/ > > To unsubcribe via email, > iga-nephropathy-unsubscribe > Visit our companion website at www.igan.ca. The site is entirely > supported by donations. If you would like to help, go to: > http://www.igan.ca/id62.htm > > Thank you > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2004 Report Share Posted May 4, 2004 Betsy, I can sympathize with the screaming awake. I dont know what they used to counter the anesthesia, but I did stop breathing and my blood pressure was nil.What you desribed is pretty much what i experienced except no morphine for me. They kept the breathing tube in for most of the first day, and had oxygen administered for the first three days. They kept me in ICU that long. Once I went into a regular room I didnt need the oxygen anymore. I explained to friends who asked what it was like being dead. I told them Dying is cake, coming back is what hurts most. Definately an experience I do not wish to go through again. A sign the doctors should have taken not of during my surgery was the fact i went out during pre-op. At which time they were putting in the triple luminater cath (sp), thats the tube they put in you neck. I dont know if your son had it or not. It was kinda nice cause thats how they admisistered most of my meds, and drew blood as well. I remember the doctor asking for ladicaine ( a local anesthesia) , feeling a small pinch in my neck then falling asleep. One of my research nurses came down to see me and said I was already out. I never even saw the Operating room. After the surgery I had to have chest xrays everyday, and was put on additional breathing med until I was released. Havent needed anything since for breathing thankfully. Your son is doubly lucky to have a mom like you. God bless both of you. Thanks for sharing your experience with me. Tony C and Schmeagle > > > Hi everyone. > > I know its been some time since I left to go have my transplant > > surgery. The surgery didnt go as well as expected. But not because of > > the kidney or the surgeons involved. The difficulty stemmed from an > > unknown X-factor in my metabolic system. Unbeknowst to anyone I have > > a very low tolerance for narcotic, that and an exceedingly high pain > > threshold. This tolerance inbalance cause me to code during surgery. > > Now before anyone of you freak, Yes< I was dead for a complete 4 > > minutes, and its not all they crack it up to be. There was no light, > > no floating over my body, damn there werent even any relatives > > waiting for me. Maybe they just forgot to pay the electric bill in > > heaven, and the tram car from hell was out of gas; either way... I'm > > back. > > The doctors weren't too concerned with losing me, they never > > even told my family. I found out the next day when the dotors > > explained to me why they wouldnt give me anything for the pain. This > > also bought to light all the events I recalled after waking up. > > > > Now this part may scare some, but its just an individula account > > due to my sensitivity to the anesthesia and the need to wake me up. > > I awoke in what seemed the most intense pain of my life. Never > > having had any real surgery there's not alot to compare it to. I was > > tied to the bed, as it turns out i became violent and tried my cath > > out and hit a nurse. I had tubes in my nose, my throat, my arm, my > > privates, and a burning sensation from the last tube mentioned. I > > recall begging the doctors to take them out, and if they would they > > wouldnt have to tie me to the bed anymore. I was unaware at this > > time that the doctors had been smacking me in the face trying to > > get a reaction from me, and this was 12 hours after my surgery. > > In my mind I felt fine and didnt need any of these things > > anymore. I was wrong of course and once I calmed down and caught up > > with my senses I relaized what had happened. I felt so bad for the > > nurse who was the brunt of my outbreak. So for the next 48 hours I > > laid in sweat from the pain, the doctors feared for my health based > > on the reaction to the medication admisitered during surgery, so I > > was denied any pain meds until late day 2. At that time small doses > > of morphine was injected .025mg. ( anyone who has never had morphine, > > it's like a warm blanket being wrapped around you on a cold winter > > morning) > > Thankfully that was the worst part of it. My creatinine had > > dropped from 6.7 the morning of the surgery to 1.4 the following > > morning. I was release on Friday follwoing the surgery and have > > made multiple return trips to have bloodwoek and monitor my > > medication. > > I am approaching my 2 month anniversary with Schmeagle (my > > precious) and my creatinine is at 1.1, the doses have been > > gradually decreased and I feel like a new person. My energy levels > > have increased and I look great. There has been very few side effects > > from the drugs which they warned me of prior, but so far all i have > > noticed is a mild case of acne on my shoulders and back and a > > little weight gain. I'm at a Healthy looking 170 lbs. Initially I was > > between 155 and 165. Oh Yeah, and my hair started growing in. I've > > been somewhat bald for the past 10 years So YIPPEEE! > > I know many of yo may have questions, either regarding the > > surgery, or the aftercare, the meds or whatever. I'm happy to answer > > them. Just ask. > > > > TonyC and Schmeagle (my precious) > > > > > > > > To edit your settings for the group, go to our Yahoo Group > > home page: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iga-nephropathy/ > > > > To unsubcribe via email, > > iga-nephropathy-unsubscribe > > Visit our companion website at www.igan.ca. The site is entirely > > supported by donations. If you would like to help, go to: > > http://www.igan.ca/id62.htm > > > > Thank you > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2004 Report Share Posted May 4, 2004 Betsy, I can sympathize with the screaming awake. I dont know what they used to counter the anesthesia, but I did stop breathing and my blood pressure was nil.What you desribed is pretty much what i experienced except no morphine for me. They kept the breathing tube in for most of the first day, and had oxygen administered for the first three days. They kept me in ICU that long. Once I went into a regular room I didnt need the oxygen anymore. I explained to friends who asked what it was like being dead. I told them Dying is cake, coming back is what hurts most. Definately an experience I do not wish to go through again. A sign the doctors should have taken not of during my surgery was the fact i went out during pre-op. At which time they were putting in the triple luminater cath (sp), thats the tube they put in you neck. I dont know if your son had it or not. It was kinda nice cause thats how they admisistered most of my meds, and drew blood as well. I remember the doctor asking for ladicaine ( a local anesthesia) , feeling a small pinch in my neck then falling asleep. One of my research nurses came down to see me and said I was already out. I never even saw the Operating room. After the surgery I had to have chest xrays everyday, and was put on additional breathing med until I was released. Havent needed anything since for breathing thankfully. Your son is doubly lucky to have a mom like you. God bless both of you. Thanks for sharing your experience with me. Tony C and Schmeagle > > > Hi everyone. > > I know its been some time since I left to go have my transplant > > surgery. The surgery didnt go as well as expected. But not because of > > the kidney or the surgeons involved. The difficulty stemmed from an > > unknown X-factor in my metabolic system. Unbeknowst to anyone I have > > a very low tolerance for narcotic, that and an exceedingly high pain > > threshold. This tolerance inbalance cause me to code during surgery. > > Now before anyone of you freak, Yes< I was dead for a complete 4 > > minutes, and its not all they crack it up to be. There was no light, > > no floating over my body, damn there werent even any relatives > > waiting for me. Maybe they just forgot to pay the electric bill in > > heaven, and the tram car from hell was out of gas; either way... I'm > > back. > > The doctors weren't too concerned with losing me, they never > > even told my family. I found out the next day when the dotors > > explained to me why they wouldnt give me anything for the pain. This > > also bought to light all the events I recalled after waking up. > > > > Now this part may scare some, but its just an individula account > > due to my sensitivity to the anesthesia and the need to wake me up. > > I awoke in what seemed the most intense pain of my life. Never > > having had any real surgery there's not alot to compare it to. I was > > tied to the bed, as it turns out i became violent and tried my cath > > out and hit a nurse. I had tubes in my nose, my throat, my arm, my > > privates, and a burning sensation from the last tube mentioned. I > > recall begging the doctors to take them out, and if they would they > > wouldnt have to tie me to the bed anymore. I was unaware at this > > time that the doctors had been smacking me in the face trying to > > get a reaction from me, and this was 12 hours after my surgery. > > In my mind I felt fine and didnt need any of these things > > anymore. I was wrong of course and once I calmed down and caught up > > with my senses I relaized what had happened. I felt so bad for the > > nurse who was the brunt of my outbreak. So for the next 48 hours I > > laid in sweat from the pain, the doctors feared for my health based > > on the reaction to the medication admisitered during surgery, so I > > was denied any pain meds until late day 2. At that time small doses > > of morphine was injected .025mg. ( anyone who has never had morphine, > > it's like a warm blanket being wrapped around you on a cold winter > > morning) > > Thankfully that was the worst part of it. My creatinine had > > dropped from 6.7 the morning of the surgery to 1.4 the following > > morning. I was release on Friday follwoing the surgery and have > > made multiple return trips to have bloodwoek and monitor my > > medication. > > I am approaching my 2 month anniversary with Schmeagle (my > > precious) and my creatinine is at 1.1, the doses have been > > gradually decreased and I feel like a new person. My energy levels > > have increased and I look great. There has been very few side effects > > from the drugs which they warned me of prior, but so far all i have > > noticed is a mild case of acne on my shoulders and back and a > > little weight gain. I'm at a Healthy looking 170 lbs. Initially I was > > between 155 and 165. Oh Yeah, and my hair started growing in. I've > > been somewhat bald for the past 10 years So YIPPEEE! > > I know many of yo may have questions, either regarding the > > surgery, or the aftercare, the meds or whatever. I'm happy to answer > > them. Just ask. > > > > TonyC and Schmeagle (my precious) > > > > > > > > To edit your settings for the group, go to our Yahoo Group > > home page: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iga-nephropathy/ > > > > To unsubcribe via email, > > iga-nephropathy-unsubscribe > > Visit our companion website at www.igan.ca. The site is entirely > > supported by donations. If you would like to help, go to: > > http://www.igan.ca/id62.htm > > > > Thank you > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2004 Report Share Posted May 4, 2004 Dear Tony and Schmeagle, My son had the central venous lines in his neck (we called it the mark of the transplant vampire because that was how we could tell recipients from donors in the hospital), but he had no recollection of them being put in and assumed it was done after he was put under. He was awake when he went into the OR and could remember what that looked like. Let's just hope neither one of you has to go through something like this again. Betsy > Betsy, > > I can sympathize with the screaming awake. I dont know what they > used to counter the anesthesia, but I did stop breathing and my > blood pressure was nil.What you desribed is pretty much what i > experienced except no morphine for me. They kept the breathing tube > in for most of the first day, and had oxygen administered for the > first three days. They kept me in ICU that long. Once I went into a > regular room I didnt need the oxygen anymore. > > I explained to friends who asked what it was like being dead. I > told them Dying is cake, coming back is what hurts most. > > Definately an experience I do not wish to go through again. > > A sign the doctors should have taken not of during my surgery was the > fact i went out during pre-op. > At which time they were putting in the triple luminater cath (sp), > thats the tube they put in you neck. I dont know if your son had it > or not. It was kinda nice cause thats how they admisistered most of > my meds, and drew blood as well. I remember the doctor asking for > ladicaine ( a local anesthesia) , feeling a small pinch in my neck > then falling asleep. One of my research nurses came down to see me > and said I was already out. I never even saw the Operating room. > > After the surgery I had to have chest xrays everyday, and was put on > additional breathing med until I was released. Havent needed anything > since for breathing thankfully. > > Your son is doubly lucky to have a mom like you. > God bless both of you. > Thanks for sharing your experience with me. > Tony C and Schmeagle > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone. > > > I know its been some time since I left to go have my > transplant > > > surgery. The surgery didnt go as well as expected. But not > because of > > > the kidney or the surgeons involved. The difficulty stemmed > from an > > > unknown X-factor in my metabolic system. Unbeknowst to anyone I > have > > > a very low tolerance for narcotic, that and an exceedingly high > pain > > > threshold. This tolerance inbalance cause me to code during > surgery. > > > Now before anyone of you freak, Yes< I was dead for a > complete 4 > > > minutes, and its not all they crack it up to be. There was no > light, > > > no floating over my body, damn there werent even any relatives > > > waiting for me. Maybe they just forgot to pay the electric bill > in > > > heaven, and the tram car from hell was out of gas; either > way... I'm > > > back. > > > The doctors weren't too concerned with losing me, they > never > > > even told my family. I found out the next day when the dotors > > > explained to me why they wouldnt give me anything for the pain. > This > > > also bought to light all the events I recalled after waking up. > > > > > > Now this part may scare some, but its just an individula > account > > > due to my sensitivity to the anesthesia and the need to wake > me up. > > > I awoke in what seemed the most intense pain of my life. Never > > > having had any real surgery there's not alot to compare it to. I > was > > > tied to the bed, as it turns out i became violent and tried my > cath > > > out and hit a nurse. I had tubes in my nose, my throat, my arm, > my > > > privates, and a burning sensation from the last tube mentioned. > I > > > recall begging the doctors to take them out, and if they would > they > > > wouldnt have to tie me to the bed anymore. I was unaware at this > > > time that the doctors had been smacking me in the face trying > to > > > get a reaction from me, and this was 12 hours after my surgery. > > > In my mind I felt fine and didnt need any of these things > > > anymore. I was wrong of course and once I calmed down and > caught up > > > with my senses I relaized what had happened. I felt so bad > for the > > > nurse who was the brunt of my outbreak. So for the next 48 hours > I > > > laid in sweat from the pain, the doctors feared for my health > based > > > on the reaction to the medication admisitered during surgery, > so I > > > was denied any pain meds until late day 2. At that time small > doses > > > of morphine was injected .025mg. ( anyone who has never had > morphine, > > > it's like a warm blanket being wrapped around you on a cold > winter > > > morning) > > > Thankfully that was the worst part of it. My creatinine had > > > dropped from 6.7 the morning of the surgery to 1.4 the > following > > > morning. I was release on Friday follwoing the surgery and have > > > made multiple return trips to have bloodwoek and monitor my > > > medication. > > > I am approaching my 2 month anniversary with Schmeagle (my > > > precious) and my creatinine is at 1.1, the doses have been > > > gradually decreased and I feel like a new person. My energy > levels > > > have increased and I look great. There has been very few side > effects > > > from the drugs which they warned me of prior, but so far all i > have > > > noticed is a mild case of acne on my shoulders and back and a > > > little weight gain. I'm at a Healthy looking 170 lbs. Initially > I was > > > between 155 and 165. Oh Yeah, and my hair started growing in. > I've > > > been somewhat bald for the past 10 years So YIPPEEE! > > > I know many of yo may have questions, either regarding the > > > surgery, or the aftercare, the meds or whatever. I'm happy to > answer > > > them. Just ask. > > > > > > TonyC and Schmeagle (my precious) > > > > > > > > > > > > To edit your settings for the group, go to our Yahoo Group > > > home page: > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iga-nephropathy/ > > > > > > To unsubcribe via email, > > > iga-nephropathy-unsubscribe > > > Visit our companion website at www.igan.ca. The site is entirely > > > supported by donations. If you would like to help, go to: > > > http://www.igan.ca/id62.htm > > > > > > Thank you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2004 Report Share Posted May 4, 2004 Dear Tony and Schmeagle, My son had the central venous lines in his neck (we called it the mark of the transplant vampire because that was how we could tell recipients from donors in the hospital), but he had no recollection of them being put in and assumed it was done after he was put under. He was awake when he went into the OR and could remember what that looked like. Let's just hope neither one of you has to go through something like this again. Betsy > Betsy, > > I can sympathize with the screaming awake. I dont know what they > used to counter the anesthesia, but I did stop breathing and my > blood pressure was nil.What you desribed is pretty much what i > experienced except no morphine for me. They kept the breathing tube > in for most of the first day, and had oxygen administered for the > first three days. They kept me in ICU that long. Once I went into a > regular room I didnt need the oxygen anymore. > > I explained to friends who asked what it was like being dead. I > told them Dying is cake, coming back is what hurts most. > > Definately an experience I do not wish to go through again. > > A sign the doctors should have taken not of during my surgery was the > fact i went out during pre-op. > At which time they were putting in the triple luminater cath (sp), > thats the tube they put in you neck. I dont know if your son had it > or not. It was kinda nice cause thats how they admisistered most of > my meds, and drew blood as well. I remember the doctor asking for > ladicaine ( a local anesthesia) , feeling a small pinch in my neck > then falling asleep. One of my research nurses came down to see me > and said I was already out. I never even saw the Operating room. > > After the surgery I had to have chest xrays everyday, and was put on > additional breathing med until I was released. Havent needed anything > since for breathing thankfully. > > Your son is doubly lucky to have a mom like you. > God bless both of you. > Thanks for sharing your experience with me. > Tony C and Schmeagle > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone. > > > I know its been some time since I left to go have my > transplant > > > surgery. The surgery didnt go as well as expected. But not > because of > > > the kidney or the surgeons involved. The difficulty stemmed > from an > > > unknown X-factor in my metabolic system. Unbeknowst to anyone I > have > > > a very low tolerance for narcotic, that and an exceedingly high > pain > > > threshold. This tolerance inbalance cause me to code during > surgery. > > > Now before anyone of you freak, Yes< I was dead for a > complete 4 > > > minutes, and its not all they crack it up to be. There was no > light, > > > no floating over my body, damn there werent even any relatives > > > waiting for me. Maybe they just forgot to pay the electric bill > in > > > heaven, and the tram car from hell was out of gas; either > way... I'm > > > back. > > > The doctors weren't too concerned with losing me, they > never > > > even told my family. I found out the next day when the dotors > > > explained to me why they wouldnt give me anything for the pain. > This > > > also bought to light all the events I recalled after waking up. > > > > > > Now this part may scare some, but its just an individula > account > > > due to my sensitivity to the anesthesia and the need to wake > me up. > > > I awoke in what seemed the most intense pain of my life. Never > > > having had any real surgery there's not alot to compare it to. I > was > > > tied to the bed, as it turns out i became violent and tried my > cath > > > out and hit a nurse. I had tubes in my nose, my throat, my arm, > my > > > privates, and a burning sensation from the last tube mentioned. > I > > > recall begging the doctors to take them out, and if they would > they > > > wouldnt have to tie me to the bed anymore. I was unaware at this > > > time that the doctors had been smacking me in the face trying > to > > > get a reaction from me, and this was 12 hours after my surgery. > > > In my mind I felt fine and didnt need any of these things > > > anymore. I was wrong of course and once I calmed down and > caught up > > > with my senses I relaized what had happened. I felt so bad > for the > > > nurse who was the brunt of my outbreak. So for the next 48 hours > I > > > laid in sweat from the pain, the doctors feared for my health > based > > > on the reaction to the medication admisitered during surgery, > so I > > > was denied any pain meds until late day 2. At that time small > doses > > > of morphine was injected .025mg. ( anyone who has never had > morphine, > > > it's like a warm blanket being wrapped around you on a cold > winter > > > morning) > > > Thankfully that was the worst part of it. My creatinine had > > > dropped from 6.7 the morning of the surgery to 1.4 the > following > > > morning. I was release on Friday follwoing the surgery and have > > > made multiple return trips to have bloodwoek and monitor my > > > medication. > > > I am approaching my 2 month anniversary with Schmeagle (my > > > precious) and my creatinine is at 1.1, the doses have been > > > gradually decreased and I feel like a new person. My energy > levels > > > have increased and I look great. There has been very few side > effects > > > from the drugs which they warned me of prior, but so far all i > have > > > noticed is a mild case of acne on my shoulders and back and a > > > little weight gain. I'm at a Healthy looking 170 lbs. Initially > I was > > > between 155 and 165. Oh Yeah, and my hair started growing in. > I've > > > been somewhat bald for the past 10 years So YIPPEEE! > > > I know many of yo may have questions, either regarding the > > > surgery, or the aftercare, the meds or whatever. I'm happy to > answer > > > them. Just ask. > > > > > > TonyC and Schmeagle (my precious) > > > > > > > > > > > > To edit your settings for the group, go to our Yahoo Group > > > home page: > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iga-nephropathy/ > > > > > > To unsubcribe via email, > > > iga-nephropathy-unsubscribe > > > Visit our companion website at www.igan.ca. The site is entirely > > > supported by donations. If you would like to help, go to: > > > http://www.igan.ca/id62.htm > > > > > > Thank you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2004 Report Share Posted May 4, 2004 Dear Tony and Schmeagle, My son had the central venous lines in his neck (we called it the mark of the transplant vampire because that was how we could tell recipients from donors in the hospital), but he had no recollection of them being put in and assumed it was done after he was put under. He was awake when he went into the OR and could remember what that looked like. Let's just hope neither one of you has to go through something like this again. Betsy > Betsy, > > I can sympathize with the screaming awake. I dont know what they > used to counter the anesthesia, but I did stop breathing and my > blood pressure was nil.What you desribed is pretty much what i > experienced except no morphine for me. They kept the breathing tube > in for most of the first day, and had oxygen administered for the > first three days. They kept me in ICU that long. Once I went into a > regular room I didnt need the oxygen anymore. > > I explained to friends who asked what it was like being dead. I > told them Dying is cake, coming back is what hurts most. > > Definately an experience I do not wish to go through again. > > A sign the doctors should have taken not of during my surgery was the > fact i went out during pre-op. > At which time they were putting in the triple luminater cath (sp), > thats the tube they put in you neck. I dont know if your son had it > or not. It was kinda nice cause thats how they admisistered most of > my meds, and drew blood as well. I remember the doctor asking for > ladicaine ( a local anesthesia) , feeling a small pinch in my neck > then falling asleep. One of my research nurses came down to see me > and said I was already out. I never even saw the Operating room. > > After the surgery I had to have chest xrays everyday, and was put on > additional breathing med until I was released. Havent needed anything > since for breathing thankfully. > > Your son is doubly lucky to have a mom like you. > God bless both of you. > Thanks for sharing your experience with me. > Tony C and Schmeagle > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone. > > > I know its been some time since I left to go have my > transplant > > > surgery. The surgery didnt go as well as expected. But not > because of > > > the kidney or the surgeons involved. The difficulty stemmed > from an > > > unknown X-factor in my metabolic system. Unbeknowst to anyone I > have > > > a very low tolerance for narcotic, that and an exceedingly high > pain > > > threshold. This tolerance inbalance cause me to code during > surgery. > > > Now before anyone of you freak, Yes< I was dead for a > complete 4 > > > minutes, and its not all they crack it up to be. There was no > light, > > > no floating over my body, damn there werent even any relatives > > > waiting for me. Maybe they just forgot to pay the electric bill > in > > > heaven, and the tram car from hell was out of gas; either > way... I'm > > > back. > > > The doctors weren't too concerned with losing me, they > never > > > even told my family. I found out the next day when the dotors > > > explained to me why they wouldnt give me anything for the pain. > This > > > also bought to light all the events I recalled after waking up. > > > > > > Now this part may scare some, but its just an individula > account > > > due to my sensitivity to the anesthesia and the need to wake > me up. > > > I awoke in what seemed the most intense pain of my life. Never > > > having had any real surgery there's not alot to compare it to. I > was > > > tied to the bed, as it turns out i became violent and tried my > cath > > > out and hit a nurse. I had tubes in my nose, my throat, my arm, > my > > > privates, and a burning sensation from the last tube mentioned. > I > > > recall begging the doctors to take them out, and if they would > they > > > wouldnt have to tie me to the bed anymore. I was unaware at this > > > time that the doctors had been smacking me in the face trying > to > > > get a reaction from me, and this was 12 hours after my surgery. > > > In my mind I felt fine and didnt need any of these things > > > anymore. I was wrong of course and once I calmed down and > caught up > > > with my senses I relaized what had happened. I felt so bad > for the > > > nurse who was the brunt of my outbreak. So for the next 48 hours > I > > > laid in sweat from the pain, the doctors feared for my health > based > > > on the reaction to the medication admisitered during surgery, > so I > > > was denied any pain meds until late day 2. At that time small > doses > > > of morphine was injected .025mg. ( anyone who has never had > morphine, > > > it's like a warm blanket being wrapped around you on a cold > winter > > > morning) > > > Thankfully that was the worst part of it. My creatinine had > > > dropped from 6.7 the morning of the surgery to 1.4 the > following > > > morning. I was release on Friday follwoing the surgery and have > > > made multiple return trips to have bloodwoek and monitor my > > > medication. > > > I am approaching my 2 month anniversary with Schmeagle (my > > > precious) and my creatinine is at 1.1, the doses have been > > > gradually decreased and I feel like a new person. My energy > levels > > > have increased and I look great. There has been very few side > effects > > > from the drugs which they warned me of prior, but so far all i > have > > > noticed is a mild case of acne on my shoulders and back and a > > > little weight gain. I'm at a Healthy looking 170 lbs. Initially > I was > > > between 155 and 165. Oh Yeah, and my hair started growing in. > I've > > > been somewhat bald for the past 10 years So YIPPEEE! > > > I know many of yo may have questions, either regarding the > > > surgery, or the aftercare, the meds or whatever. I'm happy to > answer > > > them. Just ask. > > > > > > TonyC and Schmeagle (my precious) > > > > > > > > > > > > To edit your settings for the group, go to our Yahoo Group > > > home page: > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iga-nephropathy/ > > > > > > To unsubcribe via email, > > > iga-nephropathy-unsubscribe > > > Visit our companion website at www.igan.ca. The site is entirely > > > supported by donations. If you would like to help, go to: > > > http://www.igan.ca/id62.htm > > > > > > Thank you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2004 Report Share Posted May 4, 2004 Tony I'm very happy to hear things are going well and you were only dead for a mere 4 minutes....and have kept your sanity about it. *shudder* I'm sure it's an experience you never want to go thru again, I'm glad you made it thru it. It's also good to hear that you are doing well now and getting your hair back on top of it all....that's like a bonus! Thanks for the update and slightly scary yet truthful account of your surgery. Amy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2004 Report Share Posted May 4, 2004 Tony I'm very happy to hear things are going well and you were only dead for a mere 4 minutes....and have kept your sanity about it. *shudder* I'm sure it's an experience you never want to go thru again, I'm glad you made it thru it. It's also good to hear that you are doing well now and getting your hair back on top of it all....that's like a bonus! Thanks for the update and slightly scary yet truthful account of your surgery. Amy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2004 Report Share Posted May 4, 2004 Tony I'm very happy to hear things are going well and you were only dead for a mere 4 minutes....and have kept your sanity about it. *shudder* I'm sure it's an experience you never want to go thru again, I'm glad you made it thru it. It's also good to hear that you are doing well now and getting your hair back on top of it all....that's like a bonus! Thanks for the update and slightly scary yet truthful account of your surgery. Amy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2004 Report Share Posted May 5, 2004 Betsy, Yep thats them. I also referred to it as something as obscure. It was black and blue for 2 weeks after it was removed and I told people I had been attacked by an inexperienced vampire. One of the amizing things about this piece of equipment is I was told when they removed it it also had a microchip which monitored the amount of oxygen in my blood. The nurse offered to let me keep it but of course I was like Ewwww what do I need with that. The offer to let me keep the stint that connected my urethra to Schmeagle as well. Whats up with Doctors offer medical waste as soveigners.... Yuck Tony C and Schmeagle > > > > > > > Hi everyone. > > > > I know its been some time since I left to go have my > > transplant > > > > surgery. The surgery didnt go as well as expected. But not > > because of > > > > the kidney or the surgeons involved. The difficulty stemmed > > from an > > > > unknown X-factor in my metabolic system. Unbeknowst to anyone I > > have > > > > a very low tolerance for narcotic, that and an exceedingly high > > pain > > > > threshold. This tolerance inbalance cause me to code during > > surgery. > > > > Now before anyone of you freak, Yes< I was dead for a > > complete 4 > > > > minutes, and its not all they crack it up to be. There was no > > light, > > > > no floating over my body, damn there werent even any relatives > > > > waiting for me. Maybe they just forgot to pay the electric bill > > in > > > > heaven, and the tram car from hell was out of gas; either > > way... I'm > > > > back. > > > > The doctors weren't too concerned with losing me, they > > never > > > > even told my family. I found out the next day when the dotors > > > > explained to me why they wouldnt give me anything for the pain. > > This > > > > also bought to light all the events I recalled after waking up. > > > > > > > > Now this part may scare some, but its just an individula > > account > > > > due to my sensitivity to the anesthesia and the need to wake > > me up. > > > > I awoke in what seemed the most intense pain of my life. Never > > > > having had any real surgery there's not alot to compare it to. I > > was > > > > tied to the bed, as it turns out i became violent and tried my > > cath > > > > out and hit a nurse. I had tubes in my nose, my throat, my arm, > > my > > > > privates, and a burning sensation from the last tube mentioned. > > I > > > > recall begging the doctors to take them out, and if they would > > they > > > > wouldnt have to tie me to the bed anymore. I was unaware at this > > > > time that the doctors had been smacking me in the face trying > > to > > > > get a reaction from me, and this was 12 hours after my surgery. > > > > In my mind I felt fine and didnt need any of these things > > > > anymore. I was wrong of course and once I calmed down and > > caught up > > > > with my senses I relaized what had happened. I felt so bad > > for the > > > > nurse who was the brunt of my outbreak. So for the next 48 hours > > I > > > > laid in sweat from the pain, the doctors feared for my health > > based > > > > on the reaction to the medication admisitered during surgery, > > so I > > > > was denied any pain meds until late day 2. At that time small > > doses > > > > of morphine was injected .025mg. ( anyone who has never had > > morphine, > > > > it's like a warm blanket being wrapped around you on a cold > > winter > > > > morning) > > > > Thankfully that was the worst part of it. My creatinine had > > > > dropped from 6.7 the morning of the surgery to 1.4 the > > following > > > > morning. I was release on Friday follwoing the surgery and have > > > > made multiple return trips to have bloodwoek and monitor my > > > > medication. > > > > I am approaching my 2 month anniversary with Schmeagle (my > > > > precious) and my creatinine is at 1.1, the doses have been > > > > gradually decreased and I feel like a new person. My energy > > levels > > > > have increased and I look great. There has been very few side > > effects > > > > from the drugs which they warned me of prior, but so far all i > > have > > > > noticed is a mild case of acne on my shoulders and back and a > > > > little weight gain. I'm at a Healthy looking 170 lbs. Initially > > I was > > > > between 155 and 165. Oh Yeah, and my hair started growing in. > > I've > > > > been somewhat bald for the past 10 years So YIPPEEE! > > > > I know many of yo may have questions, either regarding the > > > > surgery, or the aftercare, the meds or whatever. I'm happy to > > answer > > > > them. Just ask. > > > > > > > > TonyC and Schmeagle (my precious) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To edit your settings for the group, go to our Yahoo Group > > > > home page: > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iga-nephropathy/ > > > > > > > > To unsubcribe via email, > > > > iga-nephropathy-unsubscribe > > > > Visit our companion website at www.igan.ca. The site is entirely > > > > supported by donations. If you would like to help, go to: > > > > http://www.igan.ca/id62.htm > > > > > > > > Thank you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2004 Report Share Posted May 5, 2004 Dear Tony Thanks God you transplantation suceeded. Of course, we have to calculate that unavoidable difficulties. You are also lucky that your mom takes care of you after the transplantation as it is easier for you to move as somebody is assisting you. Managing myself makes me feel scare and considering other problems. I have only my 11 year old daughter with me and the rest of the family is millions of miles far away from me. I know that they will take care of me when they are just living nearby (nice to think). Hope you and smeagle (did I wrote it correctly) do very well. Peach --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly... " Ping " your friends today! Download Messenger Now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2004 Report Share Posted May 5, 2004 Dear Tony Thanks God you transplantation suceeded. Of course, we have to calculate that unavoidable difficulties. You are also lucky that your mom takes care of you after the transplantation as it is easier for you to move as somebody is assisting you. Managing myself makes me feel scare and considering other problems. I have only my 11 year old daughter with me and the rest of the family is millions of miles far away from me. I know that they will take care of me when they are just living nearby (nice to think). Hope you and smeagle (did I wrote it correctly) do very well. Peach --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly... " Ping " your friends today! Download Messenger Now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2004 Report Share Posted May 5, 2004 Boy, that's some story! Nice that you can tell it with humour as you did. You know, at one of the local support group meetings I attended last year at the kidney centre, the fact that some people start growing hair again after a transplant was a hot subject. There was one man there who had experienced it himself. I could use a little more hair up there too The phone company just sent me a new pager. They provide them free of charge to people on the transplant waiting list. Up until now, I had just been relying on my cellphone for that, but it's a pain trying to always make sure it's got a good charge. I hope it buzzes soon! Pierre Tony C ( a scary success story) > Hi everyone. > I know its been some time since I left to go have my transplant > surgery. The surgery didnt go as well as expected. But not because of > the kidney or the surgeons involved. The difficulty stemmed from an > unknown X-factor in my metabolic system. Unbeknowst to anyone I have > a very low tolerance for narcotic, that and an exceedingly high pain > threshold. This tolerance inbalance cause me to code during surgery. > Now before anyone of you freak, Yes< I was dead for a complete 4 > minutes, and its not all they crack it up to be. There was no light, > no floating over my body, damn there werent even any relatives > waiting for me. Maybe they just forgot to pay the electric bill in > heaven, and the tram car from hell was out of gas; either way... I'm > back. > The doctors weren't too concerned with losing me, they never > even told my family. I found out the next day when the dotors > explained to me why they wouldnt give me anything for the pain. This > also bought to light all the events I recalled after waking up. > > Now this part may scare some, but its just an individula account > due to my sensitivity to the anesthesia and the need to wake me up. > I awoke in what seemed the most intense pain of my life. Never > having had any real surgery there's not alot to compare it to. I was > tied to the bed, as it turns out i became violent and tried my cath > out and hit a nurse. I had tubes in my nose, my throat, my arm, my > privates, and a burning sensation from the last tube mentioned. I > recall begging the doctors to take them out, and if they would they > wouldnt have to tie me to the bed anymore. I was unaware at this > time that the doctors had been smacking me in the face trying to > get a reaction from me, and this was 12 hours after my surgery. > In my mind I felt fine and didnt need any of these things > anymore. I was wrong of course and once I calmed down and caught up > with my senses I relaized what had happened. I felt so bad for the > nurse who was the brunt of my outbreak. So for the next 48 hours I > laid in sweat from the pain, the doctors feared for my health based > on the reaction to the medication admisitered during surgery, so I > was denied any pain meds until late day 2. At that time small doses > of morphine was injected .025mg. ( anyone who has never had morphine, > it's like a warm blanket being wrapped around you on a cold winter > morning) > Thankfully that was the worst part of it. My creatinine had > dropped from 6.7 the morning of the surgery to 1.4 the following > morning. I was release on Friday follwoing the surgery and have > made multiple return trips to have bloodwoek and monitor my > medication. > I am approaching my 2 month anniversary with Schmeagle (my > precious) and my creatinine is at 1.1, the doses have been > gradually decreased and I feel like a new person. My energy levels > have increased and I look great. There has been very few side effects > from the drugs which they warned me of prior, but so far all i have > noticed is a mild case of acne on my shoulders and back and a > little weight gain. I'm at a Healthy looking 170 lbs. Initially I was > between 155 and 165. Oh Yeah, and my hair started growing in. I've > been somewhat bald for the past 10 years So YIPPEEE! > I know many of yo may have questions, either regarding the > surgery, or the aftercare, the meds or whatever. I'm happy to answer > them. Just ask. > > TonyC and Schmeagle (my precious) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2004 Report Share Posted May 5, 2004 I agree with you on the unwanted medical waste! I sure would not want to bring any of those items home. I hope your brother can really take some responsibility for his health and get back into the swing of things. In a message dated 5/5/2004 11:02:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time, tony713c@... writes: > Whats up with Doctors > offer medical waste as soveigners.... Yuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2004 Report Share Posted May 5, 2004 Hi Pierre, We're not going to go into all that they say about bald men. I'm not going to go there.... It's funny all the services that the phone company provides for free. When my husband had his vocal cords removed, they also provided his electrolarnyx (or what we used to call his talkman) for free. We explored buying a new one.... but the free one was much better than any of the very expensive alternatives. Here's hoping that pager goes off SOON. Cy Tony C ( a scary success story) > > > > Hi everyone. > > I know its been some time since I left to go have my transplant > > surgery. The surgery didnt go as well as expected. But not because of > > the kidney or the surgeons involved. The difficulty stemmed from an > > unknown X-factor in my metabolic system. Unbeknowst to anyone I have > > a very low tolerance for narcotic, that and an exceedingly high pain > > threshold. This tolerance inbalance cause me to code during surgery. > > Now before anyone of you freak, Yes< I was dead for a complete 4 > > minutes, and its not all they crack it up to be. There was no light, > > no floating over my body, damn there werent even any relatives > > waiting for me. Maybe they just forgot to pay the electric bill in > > heaven, and the tram car from hell was out of gas; either way... I'm > > back. > > The doctors weren't too concerned with losing me, they never > > even told my family. I found out the next day when the dotors > > explained to me why they wouldnt give me anything for the pain. This > > also bought to light all the events I recalled after waking up. > > > > Now this part may scare some, but its just an individula account > > due to my sensitivity to the anesthesia and the need to wake me up. > > I awoke in what seemed the most intense pain of my life. Never > > having had any real surgery there's not alot to compare it to. I was > > tied to the bed, as it turns out i became violent and tried my cath > > out and hit a nurse. I had tubes in my nose, my throat, my arm, my > > privates, and a burning sensation from the last tube mentioned. I > > recall begging the doctors to take them out, and if they would they > > wouldnt have to tie me to the bed anymore. I was unaware at this > > time that the doctors had been smacking me in the face trying to > > get a reaction from me, and this was 12 hours after my surgery. > > In my mind I felt fine and didnt need any of these things > > anymore. I was wrong of course and once I calmed down and caught up > > with my senses I relaized what had happened. I felt so bad for the > > nurse who was the brunt of my outbreak. So for the next 48 hours I > > laid in sweat from the pain, the doctors feared for my health based > > on the reaction to the medication admisitered during surgery, so I > > was denied any pain meds until late day 2. At that time small doses > > of morphine was injected .025mg. ( anyone who has never had morphine, > > it's like a warm blanket being wrapped around you on a cold winter > > morning) > > Thankfully that was the worst part of it. My creatinine had > > dropped from 6.7 the morning of the surgery to 1.4 the following > > morning. I was release on Friday follwoing the surgery and have > > made multiple return trips to have bloodwoek and monitor my > > medication. > > I am approaching my 2 month anniversary with Schmeagle (my > > precious) and my creatinine is at 1.1, the doses have been > > gradually decreased and I feel like a new person. My energy levels > > have increased and I look great. There has been very few side effects > > from the drugs which they warned me of prior, but so far all i have > > noticed is a mild case of acne on my shoulders and back and a > > little weight gain. I'm at a Healthy looking 170 lbs. Initially I was > > between 155 and 165. Oh Yeah, and my hair started growing in. I've > > been somewhat bald for the past 10 years So YIPPEEE! > > I know many of yo may have questions, either regarding the > > surgery, or the aftercare, the meds or whatever. I'm happy to answer > > them. Just ask. > > > > TonyC and Schmeagle (my precious) > > > > > > > To edit your settings for the group, go to our Yahoo Group > home page: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iga-nephropathy/ > > To unsubcribe via email, > iga-nephropathy-unsubscribe > Visit our companion website at www.igan.ca. The site is entirely supported by donations. If you would like to help, go to: > http://www.igan.ca/id62.htm > > Thank you > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2004 Report Share Posted May 5, 2004 Hi Pierre, We're not going to go into all that they say about bald men. I'm not going to go there.... It's funny all the services that the phone company provides for free. When my husband had his vocal cords removed, they also provided his electrolarnyx (or what we used to call his talkman) for free. We explored buying a new one.... but the free one was much better than any of the very expensive alternatives. Here's hoping that pager goes off SOON. Cy Tony C ( a scary success story) > > > > Hi everyone. > > I know its been some time since I left to go have my transplant > > surgery. The surgery didnt go as well as expected. But not because of > > the kidney or the surgeons involved. The difficulty stemmed from an > > unknown X-factor in my metabolic system. Unbeknowst to anyone I have > > a very low tolerance for narcotic, that and an exceedingly high pain > > threshold. This tolerance inbalance cause me to code during surgery. > > Now before anyone of you freak, Yes< I was dead for a complete 4 > > minutes, and its not all they crack it up to be. There was no light, > > no floating over my body, damn there werent even any relatives > > waiting for me. Maybe they just forgot to pay the electric bill in > > heaven, and the tram car from hell was out of gas; either way... I'm > > back. > > The doctors weren't too concerned with losing me, they never > > even told my family. I found out the next day when the dotors > > explained to me why they wouldnt give me anything for the pain. This > > also bought to light all the events I recalled after waking up. > > > > Now this part may scare some, but its just an individula account > > due to my sensitivity to the anesthesia and the need to wake me up. > > I awoke in what seemed the most intense pain of my life. Never > > having had any real surgery there's not alot to compare it to. I was > > tied to the bed, as it turns out i became violent and tried my cath > > out and hit a nurse. I had tubes in my nose, my throat, my arm, my > > privates, and a burning sensation from the last tube mentioned. I > > recall begging the doctors to take them out, and if they would they > > wouldnt have to tie me to the bed anymore. I was unaware at this > > time that the doctors had been smacking me in the face trying to > > get a reaction from me, and this was 12 hours after my surgery. > > In my mind I felt fine and didnt need any of these things > > anymore. I was wrong of course and once I calmed down and caught up > > with my senses I relaized what had happened. I felt so bad for the > > nurse who was the brunt of my outbreak. So for the next 48 hours I > > laid in sweat from the pain, the doctors feared for my health based > > on the reaction to the medication admisitered during surgery, so I > > was denied any pain meds until late day 2. At that time small doses > > of morphine was injected .025mg. ( anyone who has never had morphine, > > it's like a warm blanket being wrapped around you on a cold winter > > morning) > > Thankfully that was the worst part of it. My creatinine had > > dropped from 6.7 the morning of the surgery to 1.4 the following > > morning. I was release on Friday follwoing the surgery and have > > made multiple return trips to have bloodwoek and monitor my > > medication. > > I am approaching my 2 month anniversary with Schmeagle (my > > precious) and my creatinine is at 1.1, the doses have been > > gradually decreased and I feel like a new person. My energy levels > > have increased and I look great. There has been very few side effects > > from the drugs which they warned me of prior, but so far all i have > > noticed is a mild case of acne on my shoulders and back and a > > little weight gain. I'm at a Healthy looking 170 lbs. Initially I was > > between 155 and 165. Oh Yeah, and my hair started growing in. I've > > been somewhat bald for the past 10 years So YIPPEEE! > > I know many of yo may have questions, either regarding the > > surgery, or the aftercare, the meds or whatever. I'm happy to answer > > them. Just ask. > > > > TonyC and Schmeagle (my precious) > > > > > > > To edit your settings for the group, go to our Yahoo Group > home page: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iga-nephropathy/ > > To unsubcribe via email, > iga-nephropathy-unsubscribe > Visit our companion website at www.igan.ca. The site is entirely supported by donations. If you would like to help, go to: > http://www.igan.ca/id62.htm > > Thank you > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2004 Report Share Posted May 5, 2004 Peach, I did appreciate my moms helpfulness buring the time I stayed there. It was odd though since I havent lived there in almost 20 years. Being catered to was a little awkward as well. Lving alone you tend to be a little more self reliant. I didnt feel as if i needed to be cared for in the manner my mom was providing. But thats part of my independant nature. As you have a daughter you may feel the same way when the time comes. Especially right after going home. I was full of energy. With the exception of lifting I was pretty much able to do everything I had before. Once my mother let me leave the house to begin my walking. I walked to my apartment, which is only several blocks away. I had to drop in and visit my pets who have been cared fro by a neighboor. Being around people who care is another type of medice which helps you get through any endeavour. I'm sure you have a network that will help you get through everything as well even if your family is far away. Good Luck Peach Tony C and Schmeagle > > Dear Tony > > Thanks God you transplantation suceeded. Of course, we have to calculate that unavoidable difficulties. You are also lucky that your mom takes care of you after the transplantation as it is easier for you to move as somebody is assisting you. > > Managing myself makes me feel scare and considering other problems. I have only my 11 year old daughter with me and the rest of the family is millions of miles far away from me. I know that they will take care of me when they are just living nearby (nice to think). Hope you and smeagle (did I wrote it correctly) do very well. > > Peach > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly... " Ping " your friends today! Download Messenger Now > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2004 Report Share Posted May 5, 2004 Peach, I did appreciate my moms helpfulness buring the time I stayed there. It was odd though since I havent lived there in almost 20 years. Being catered to was a little awkward as well. Lving alone you tend to be a little more self reliant. I didnt feel as if i needed to be cared for in the manner my mom was providing. But thats part of my independant nature. As you have a daughter you may feel the same way when the time comes. Especially right after going home. I was full of energy. With the exception of lifting I was pretty much able to do everything I had before. Once my mother let me leave the house to begin my walking. I walked to my apartment, which is only several blocks away. I had to drop in and visit my pets who have been cared fro by a neighboor. Being around people who care is another type of medice which helps you get through any endeavour. I'm sure you have a network that will help you get through everything as well even if your family is far away. Good Luck Peach Tony C and Schmeagle > > Dear Tony > > Thanks God you transplantation suceeded. Of course, we have to calculate that unavoidable difficulties. You are also lucky that your mom takes care of you after the transplantation as it is easier for you to move as somebody is assisting you. > > Managing myself makes me feel scare and considering other problems. I have only my 11 year old daughter with me and the rest of the family is millions of miles far away from me. I know that they will take care of me when they are just living nearby (nice to think). Hope you and smeagle (did I wrote it correctly) do very well. > > Peach > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly... " Ping " your friends today! Download Messenger Now > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2004 Report Share Posted May 5, 2004 Peach, I did appreciate my moms helpfulness buring the time I stayed there. It was odd though since I havent lived there in almost 20 years. Being catered to was a little awkward as well. Lving alone you tend to be a little more self reliant. I didnt feel as if i needed to be cared for in the manner my mom was providing. But thats part of my independant nature. As you have a daughter you may feel the same way when the time comes. Especially right after going home. I was full of energy. With the exception of lifting I was pretty much able to do everything I had before. Once my mother let me leave the house to begin my walking. I walked to my apartment, which is only several blocks away. I had to drop in and visit my pets who have been cared fro by a neighboor. Being around people who care is another type of medice which helps you get through any endeavour. I'm sure you have a network that will help you get through everything as well even if your family is far away. Good Luck Peach Tony C and Schmeagle > > Dear Tony > > Thanks God you transplantation suceeded. Of course, we have to calculate that unavoidable difficulties. You are also lucky that your mom takes care of you after the transplantation as it is easier for you to move as somebody is assisting you. > > Managing myself makes me feel scare and considering other problems. I have only my 11 year old daughter with me and the rest of the family is millions of miles far away from me. I know that they will take care of me when they are just living nearby (nice to think). Hope you and smeagle (did I wrote it correctly) do very well. > > Peach > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly... " Ping " your friends today! Download Messenger Now > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2004 Report Share Posted May 5, 2004 Well Pierre, I will pray for a donor and some hair for you. The hair growth is one of the side effect (in my eyes a bonus effect) from the Cyclosporine (neoral). Honestly when I first started the Neoral I got sick. This awful grey pill smells like a horse shit on a skunk. In the hospital I did everyhting possible to avoid this medication. It caused me to gag, and the smell alone seemed to linger. I would hold my nose wear gloves and have to take another medication to settle my nausea. But now its fine. One hint is to let this pill air out before taking it. I fill my weekly pill case every Thursday night now so the Neoral sits in the plastic case rather than the foil packing it is shpped in. This helps. You have been on the list for some time if I recall, so you should be hearing soon, God willing. As you already know I look for the humor in everything. Laughter is the most pleasant medicine, and its FREE. Tony C and Schmeagle > Boy, that's some story! Nice that you can tell it with humour as you did. > You know, at one of the local support group meetings I attended last year at > the kidney centre, the fact that some people start growing hair again after > a transplant was a hot subject. There was one man there who had experienced > it himself. I could use a little more hair up there too > > The phone company just sent me a new pager. They provide them free of charge > to people on the transplant waiting list. Up until now, I had just been > relying on my cellphone for that, but it's a pain trying to always make sure > it's got a good charge. I hope it buzzes soon! > > Pierre > > > > > > > Tony C ( a scary success story) > > > > Hi everyone. > > I know its been some time since I left to go have my transplant > > surgery. The surgery didnt go as well as expected. But not because of > > the kidney or the surgeons involved. The difficulty stemmed from an > > unknown X-factor in my metabolic system. Unbeknowst to anyone I have > > a very low tolerance for narcotic, that and an exceedingly high pain > > threshold. This tolerance inbalance cause me to code during surgery. > > Now before anyone of you freak, Yes< I was dead for a complete 4 > > minutes, and its not all they crack it up to be. There was no light, > > no floating over my body, damn there werent even any relatives > > waiting for me. Maybe they just forgot to pay the electric bill in > > heaven, and the tram car from hell was out of gas; either way... I'm > > back. > > The doctors weren't too concerned with losing me, they never > > even told my family. I found out the next day when the dotors > > explained to me why they wouldnt give me anything for the pain. This > > also bought to light all the events I recalled after waking up. > > > > Now this part may scare some, but its just an individula account > > due to my sensitivity to the anesthesia and the need to wake me up. > > I awoke in what seemed the most intense pain of my life. Never > > having had any real surgery there's not alot to compare it to. I was > > tied to the bed, as it turns out i became violent and tried my cath > > out and hit a nurse. I had tubes in my nose, my throat, my arm, my > > privates, and a burning sensation from the last tube mentioned. I > > recall begging the doctors to take them out, and if they would they > > wouldnt have to tie me to the bed anymore. I was unaware at this > > time that the doctors had been smacking me in the face trying to > > get a reaction from me, and this was 12 hours after my surgery. > > In my mind I felt fine and didnt need any of these things > > anymore. I was wrong of course and once I calmed down and caught up > > with my senses I relaized what had happened. I felt so bad for the > > nurse who was the brunt of my outbreak. So for the next 48 hours I > > laid in sweat from the pain, the doctors feared for my health based > > on the reaction to the medication admisitered during surgery, so I > > was denied any pain meds until late day 2. At that time small doses > > of morphine was injected .025mg. ( anyone who has never had morphine, > > it's like a warm blanket being wrapped around you on a cold winter > > morning) > > Thankfully that was the worst part of it. My creatinine had > > dropped from 6.7 the morning of the surgery to 1.4 the following > > morning. I was release on Friday follwoing the surgery and have > > made multiple return trips to have bloodwoek and monitor my > > medication. > > I am approaching my 2 month anniversary with Schmeagle (my > > precious) and my creatinine is at 1.1, the doses have been > > gradually decreased and I feel like a new person. My energy levels > > have increased and I look great. There has been very few side effects > > from the drugs which they warned me of prior, but so far all i have > > noticed is a mild case of acne on my shoulders and back and a > > little weight gain. I'm at a Healthy looking 170 lbs. Initially I was > > between 155 and 165. Oh Yeah, and my hair started growing in. I've > > been somewhat bald for the past 10 years So YIPPEEE! > > I know many of yo may have questions, either regarding the > > surgery, or the aftercare, the meds or whatever. I'm happy to answer > > them. Just ask. > > > > TonyC and Schmeagle (my precious) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2004 Report Share Posted May 5, 2004 Well Pierre, I will pray for a donor and some hair for you. The hair growth is one of the side effect (in my eyes a bonus effect) from the Cyclosporine (neoral). Honestly when I first started the Neoral I got sick. This awful grey pill smells like a horse shit on a skunk. In the hospital I did everyhting possible to avoid this medication. It caused me to gag, and the smell alone seemed to linger. I would hold my nose wear gloves and have to take another medication to settle my nausea. But now its fine. One hint is to let this pill air out before taking it. I fill my weekly pill case every Thursday night now so the Neoral sits in the plastic case rather than the foil packing it is shpped in. This helps. You have been on the list for some time if I recall, so you should be hearing soon, God willing. As you already know I look for the humor in everything. Laughter is the most pleasant medicine, and its FREE. Tony C and Schmeagle > Boy, that's some story! Nice that you can tell it with humour as you did. > You know, at one of the local support group meetings I attended last year at > the kidney centre, the fact that some people start growing hair again after > a transplant was a hot subject. There was one man there who had experienced > it himself. I could use a little more hair up there too > > The phone company just sent me a new pager. They provide them free of charge > to people on the transplant waiting list. Up until now, I had just been > relying on my cellphone for that, but it's a pain trying to always make sure > it's got a good charge. I hope it buzzes soon! > > Pierre > > > > > > > Tony C ( a scary success story) > > > > Hi everyone. > > I know its been some time since I left to go have my transplant > > surgery. The surgery didnt go as well as expected. But not because of > > the kidney or the surgeons involved. The difficulty stemmed from an > > unknown X-factor in my metabolic system. Unbeknowst to anyone I have > > a very low tolerance for narcotic, that and an exceedingly high pain > > threshold. This tolerance inbalance cause me to code during surgery. > > Now before anyone of you freak, Yes< I was dead for a complete 4 > > minutes, and its not all they crack it up to be. There was no light, > > no floating over my body, damn there werent even any relatives > > waiting for me. Maybe they just forgot to pay the electric bill in > > heaven, and the tram car from hell was out of gas; either way... I'm > > back. > > The doctors weren't too concerned with losing me, they never > > even told my family. I found out the next day when the dotors > > explained to me why they wouldnt give me anything for the pain. This > > also bought to light all the events I recalled after waking up. > > > > Now this part may scare some, but its just an individula account > > due to my sensitivity to the anesthesia and the need to wake me up. > > I awoke in what seemed the most intense pain of my life. Never > > having had any real surgery there's not alot to compare it to. I was > > tied to the bed, as it turns out i became violent and tried my cath > > out and hit a nurse. I had tubes in my nose, my throat, my arm, my > > privates, and a burning sensation from the last tube mentioned. I > > recall begging the doctors to take them out, and if they would they > > wouldnt have to tie me to the bed anymore. I was unaware at this > > time that the doctors had been smacking me in the face trying to > > get a reaction from me, and this was 12 hours after my surgery. > > In my mind I felt fine and didnt need any of these things > > anymore. I was wrong of course and once I calmed down and caught up > > with my senses I relaized what had happened. I felt so bad for the > > nurse who was the brunt of my outbreak. So for the next 48 hours I > > laid in sweat from the pain, the doctors feared for my health based > > on the reaction to the medication admisitered during surgery, so I > > was denied any pain meds until late day 2. At that time small doses > > of morphine was injected .025mg. ( anyone who has never had morphine, > > it's like a warm blanket being wrapped around you on a cold winter > > morning) > > Thankfully that was the worst part of it. My creatinine had > > dropped from 6.7 the morning of the surgery to 1.4 the following > > morning. I was release on Friday follwoing the surgery and have > > made multiple return trips to have bloodwoek and monitor my > > medication. > > I am approaching my 2 month anniversary with Schmeagle (my > > precious) and my creatinine is at 1.1, the doses have been > > gradually decreased and I feel like a new person. My energy levels > > have increased and I look great. There has been very few side effects > > from the drugs which they warned me of prior, but so far all i have > > noticed is a mild case of acne on my shoulders and back and a > > little weight gain. I'm at a Healthy looking 170 lbs. Initially I was > > between 155 and 165. Oh Yeah, and my hair started growing in. I've > > been somewhat bald for the past 10 years So YIPPEEE! > > I know many of yo may have questions, either regarding the > > surgery, or the aftercare, the meds or whatever. I'm happy to answer > > them. Just ask. > > > > TonyC and Schmeagle (my precious) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2004 Report Share Posted May 5, 2004 Cy I know I should have gotten back here sooner. My bad. I was just so wrapped up in feeling good, and looking good. Then I dealth with the semi superstar syndrome. After major surgery everyone tends to look at you differently. Every wehre I go, if someone knows I had the surgery they tell me how great I look and how. Others can not believe I even went through it. I've been told I look from healthy to Vibrant, thats the term the guy at the video stare used. when I finally went home I stopped and picked up a movie. The owner asked where I had been, If i went on vacation or something. I told him I was in the hospiatl and had a tranplant. I thought he was going to pass out. He could not believe it. HE didnt know I was sick before, but did indeed notice a change in me after. My mom calls me everytime a relative comes to town, just so I can go over and say Hi. Then my mom showcases my new hair growth. Sometimes I think she is more happy about it than I am. ..... NYAH.... I'm reaping all those rewards. Vibrant and happy Tony C and Schmeagle > What a story! What an attitude! I was so blown away when I read your post > yesterday I felt entirely incompetent to respond. It was so wonderful to > hear from you. I know many of us were very worried. I hope your bro makes > it to the doctor. > > Cy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2004 Report Share Posted May 5, 2004 Cy I know I should have gotten back here sooner. My bad. I was just so wrapped up in feeling good, and looking good. Then I dealth with the semi superstar syndrome. After major surgery everyone tends to look at you differently. Every wehre I go, if someone knows I had the surgery they tell me how great I look and how. Others can not believe I even went through it. I've been told I look from healthy to Vibrant, thats the term the guy at the video stare used. when I finally went home I stopped and picked up a movie. The owner asked where I had been, If i went on vacation or something. I told him I was in the hospiatl and had a tranplant. I thought he was going to pass out. He could not believe it. HE didnt know I was sick before, but did indeed notice a change in me after. My mom calls me everytime a relative comes to town, just so I can go over and say Hi. Then my mom showcases my new hair growth. Sometimes I think she is more happy about it than I am. ..... NYAH.... I'm reaping all those rewards. Vibrant and happy Tony C and Schmeagle > What a story! What an attitude! I was so blown away when I read your post > yesterday I felt entirely incompetent to respond. It was so wonderful to > hear from you. I know many of us were very worried. I hope your bro makes > it to the doctor. > > Cy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2004 Report Share Posted May 5, 2004 Cy I know I should have gotten back here sooner. My bad. I was just so wrapped up in feeling good, and looking good. Then I dealth with the semi superstar syndrome. After major surgery everyone tends to look at you differently. Every wehre I go, if someone knows I had the surgery they tell me how great I look and how. Others can not believe I even went through it. I've been told I look from healthy to Vibrant, thats the term the guy at the video stare used. when I finally went home I stopped and picked up a movie. The owner asked where I had been, If i went on vacation or something. I told him I was in the hospiatl and had a tranplant. I thought he was going to pass out. He could not believe it. HE didnt know I was sick before, but did indeed notice a change in me after. My mom calls me everytime a relative comes to town, just so I can go over and say Hi. Then my mom showcases my new hair growth. Sometimes I think she is more happy about it than I am. ..... NYAH.... I'm reaping all those rewards. Vibrant and happy Tony C and Schmeagle > What a story! What an attitude! I was so blown away when I read your post > yesterday I felt entirely incompetent to respond. It was so wonderful to > hear from you. I know many of us were very worried. I hope your bro makes > it to the doctor. > > Cy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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