Guest guest Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 Nadeem, I have seen your posts off and on for a long time now. If you are being straight, and believe you are so bad off with candida after all this time of working on Candida, that you can not even tolerate some fresh vegetables, then if it were me, I would start looking in another direction than constantly just hitting on the Candida. LIke, what are your adrenals like? For instance, reading in the Amalgam Illness book, Andy talks about some folks who have a gut that won't heal needing glutamine, but that the glutamine may not work in their adrenals are too stressed. Or.... is it possible that you suffer form a carbohydrate intolerence, that is something other than Candida? Just thinking outloud a bit, Nadeem.....maybe, just maybe, it isn't only candida all the time causing the all the problems. ......Inga > vegetable juice have sugar which may stir candida. > > Nadeem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 Nadeem, I have seen your posts off and on for a long time now. If you are being straight, and believe you are so bad off with candida after all this time of working on Candida, that you can not even tolerate some fresh vegetables, then if it were me, I would start looking in another direction than constantly just hitting on the Candida. LIke, what are your adrenals like? For instance, reading in the Amalgam Illness book, Andy talks about some folks who have a gut that won't heal needing glutamine, but that the glutamine may not work in their adrenals are too stressed. Or.... is it possible that you suffer form a carbohydrate intolerence, that is something other than Candida? Just thinking outloud a bit, Nadeem.....maybe, just maybe, it isn't only candida all the time causing the all the problems. ......Inga > vegetable juice have sugar which may stir candida. > > Nadeem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 Nadeem, I have seen your posts off and on for a long time now. If you are being straight, and believe you are so bad off with candida after all this time of working on Candida, that you can not even tolerate some fresh vegetables, then if it were me, I would start looking in another direction than constantly just hitting on the Candida. LIke, what are your adrenals like? For instance, reading in the Amalgam Illness book, Andy talks about some folks who have a gut that won't heal needing glutamine, but that the glutamine may not work in their adrenals are too stressed. Or.... is it possible that you suffer form a carbohydrate intolerence, that is something other than Candida? Just thinking outloud a bit, Nadeem.....maybe, just maybe, it isn't only candida all the time causing the all the problems. ......Inga > vegetable juice have sugar which may stir candida. > > Nadeem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 only vegetables with sugar are problem to me--not eggplant, green peppers,squash, spinach etc Nadeem > >Reply-To: frequent-dose-chelation >To: frequent-dose-chelation >Subject: Re: vegetable juice <Nadeem> >Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 09:17:03 -0700 > >Nadeem, >I have seen your posts off and on for a long time now. If you are being >straight, and believe you are so bad off with candida after all this >time of working on Candida, that you can not even tolerate some fresh >vegetables, then if it were me, I would start looking in another >direction than constantly just hitting on the Candida. > > >LIke, what are your adrenals like? For instance, reading in the Amalgam >Illness book, Andy talks about some folks who have a gut that won't >heal needing glutamine, but that the glutamine may not work in their >adrenals are too stressed. Or.... is it possible that you suffer form a >carbohydrate intolerence, that is something other than Candida? > >Just thinking outloud a bit, Nadeem.....maybe, just maybe, it isn't >only candida all the time causing the all the problems. > >.....Inga > > > > > > vegetable juice have sugar which may stir candida. > > > > Nadeem > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 only vegetables with sugar are problem to me--not eggplant, green peppers,squash, spinach etc Nadeem > >Reply-To: frequent-dose-chelation >To: frequent-dose-chelation >Subject: Re: vegetable juice <Nadeem> >Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 09:17:03 -0700 > >Nadeem, >I have seen your posts off and on for a long time now. If you are being >straight, and believe you are so bad off with candida after all this >time of working on Candida, that you can not even tolerate some fresh >vegetables, then if it were me, I would start looking in another >direction than constantly just hitting on the Candida. > > >LIke, what are your adrenals like? For instance, reading in the Amalgam >Illness book, Andy talks about some folks who have a gut that won't >heal needing glutamine, but that the glutamine may not work in their >adrenals are too stressed. Or.... is it possible that you suffer form a >carbohydrate intolerence, that is something other than Candida? > >Just thinking outloud a bit, Nadeem.....maybe, just maybe, it isn't >only candida all the time causing the all the problems. > >.....Inga > > > > > > vegetable juice have sugar which may stir candida. > > > > Nadeem > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 only vegetables with sugar are problem to me--not eggplant, green peppers,squash, spinach etc Nadeem > >Reply-To: frequent-dose-chelation >To: frequent-dose-chelation >Subject: Re: vegetable juice <Nadeem> >Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 09:17:03 -0700 > >Nadeem, >I have seen your posts off and on for a long time now. If you are being >straight, and believe you are so bad off with candida after all this >time of working on Candida, that you can not even tolerate some fresh >vegetables, then if it were me, I would start looking in another >direction than constantly just hitting on the Candida. > > >LIke, what are your adrenals like? For instance, reading in the Amalgam >Illness book, Andy talks about some folks who have a gut that won't >heal needing glutamine, but that the glutamine may not work in their >adrenals are too stressed. Or.... is it possible that you suffer form a >carbohydrate intolerence, that is something other than Candida? > >Just thinking outloud a bit, Nadeem.....maybe, just maybe, it isn't >only candida all the time causing the all the problems. > >.....Inga > > > > > > vegetable juice have sugar which may stir candida. > > > > Nadeem > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 I'll just share too that I was chasing shadows alot until I started on the dhea and pregnenolone for adrenals. Not that it's the same for you but it might still be something other. Ingrid Mager-Renault wrote: Nadeem, I have seen your posts off and on for a long time now. If you are being straight, and believe you are so bad off with candida after all this time of working on Candida, that you can not even tolerate some fresh vegetables, then if it were me, I would start looking in another direction than constantly just hitting on the Candida. LIke, what are your adrenals like? For instance, reading in the Amalgam Illness book, Andy talks about some folks who have a gut that won't heal needing glutamine, but that the glutamine may not work in their adrenals are too stressed. Or.... is it possible that you suffer form a carbohydrate intolerence, that is something other than Candida? Just thinking outloud a bit, Nadeem.....maybe, just maybe, it isn't only candida all the time causing the all the problems. ......Inga > vegetable juice have sugar which may stir candida. > > Nadeem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 I'll just share too that I was chasing shadows alot until I started on the dhea and pregnenolone for adrenals. Not that it's the same for you but it might still be something other. Ingrid Mager-Renault wrote: Nadeem, I have seen your posts off and on for a long time now. If you are being straight, and believe you are so bad off with candida after all this time of working on Candida, that you can not even tolerate some fresh vegetables, then if it were me, I would start looking in another direction than constantly just hitting on the Candida. LIke, what are your adrenals like? For instance, reading in the Amalgam Illness book, Andy talks about some folks who have a gut that won't heal needing glutamine, but that the glutamine may not work in their adrenals are too stressed. Or.... is it possible that you suffer form a carbohydrate intolerence, that is something other than Candida? Just thinking outloud a bit, Nadeem.....maybe, just maybe, it isn't only candida all the time causing the all the problems. ......Inga > vegetable juice have sugar which may stir candida. > > Nadeem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 I'll just share too that I was chasing shadows alot until I started on the dhea and pregnenolone for adrenals. Not that it's the same for you but it might still be something other. Ingrid Mager-Renault wrote: Nadeem, I have seen your posts off and on for a long time now. If you are being straight, and believe you are so bad off with candida after all this time of working on Candida, that you can not even tolerate some fresh vegetables, then if it were me, I would start looking in another direction than constantly just hitting on the Candida. LIke, what are your adrenals like? For instance, reading in the Amalgam Illness book, Andy talks about some folks who have a gut that won't heal needing glutamine, but that the glutamine may not work in their adrenals are too stressed. Or.... is it possible that you suffer form a carbohydrate intolerence, that is something other than Candida? Just thinking outloud a bit, Nadeem.....maybe, just maybe, it isn't only candida all the time causing the all the problems. ......Inga > vegetable juice have sugar which may stir candida. > > Nadeem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 I see. Good. Are you carbohydrate intolerent too, or is it just the candida? You don't have to answer, just thought I would through that out there. I know we have talked in the past, but I forget a lot of the ground we covered. Although I am not a proponent of using it in most cases, have you tried working with Diflucan long enough to confirm that your symptoms really are predominantly candida? Have you done an actual Candida antibodies test? I do believe it is the only test that actually shows something of merit. By the way...good thing you didn't have time to continue persuing the Mazu venture...I lost everything with them. Never again! What a lesson that was. ~inga > only vegetables with sugar are problem to me--not eggplant, green > peppers,squash, spinach etc > > Nadeem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 I see. Good. Are you carbohydrate intolerent too, or is it just the candida? You don't have to answer, just thought I would through that out there. I know we have talked in the past, but I forget a lot of the ground we covered. Although I am not a proponent of using it in most cases, have you tried working with Diflucan long enough to confirm that your symptoms really are predominantly candida? Have you done an actual Candida antibodies test? I do believe it is the only test that actually shows something of merit. By the way...good thing you didn't have time to continue persuing the Mazu venture...I lost everything with them. Never again! What a lesson that was. ~inga > only vegetables with sugar are problem to me--not eggplant, green > peppers,squash, spinach etc > > Nadeem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 Thanks, Too much carbohydrate is a problem for me. what is DUFLUCAN, and what do you mean by Diflucan long enough ? My candida antibodies test, if I recall correctly, was negative. I have improved a lot on candida and have developed too much tolerance to sugar and wheat as compared to my past. MAZU: I lost everything, somewhere over 2k and too many hours, the guy in michigan is now up with new scheme and he is the president of the offshore company, and takes phone calls between 3pm and 7pm. Nadeem > >Reply-To: frequent-dose-chelation >To: frequent-dose-chelation >Subject: Re: vegetable juice <Nadeem> >Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 19:47:54 -0700 > >I see. Good. Are you carbohydrate intolerent too, or is it just the >candida? You don't have to answer, just thought I would through that >out there. > >I know we have talked in the past, but I forget a lot of the ground we >covered. > >Although I am not a proponent of using it in most cases, have you tried >working with Diflucan long enough to confirm that your symptoms really >are predominantly candida? >Have you done an actual Candida antibodies test? I do believe it is the >only test that actually shows something of merit. > >By the way...good thing you didn't have time to continue persuing the >Mazu venture...I lost everything with them. Never again! What a lesson >that was. > >~inga > > > > > > only vegetables with sugar are problem to me--not eggplant, green > > peppers,squash, spinach etc > > > > Nadeem > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 Thanks, Too much carbohydrate is a problem for me. what is DUFLUCAN, and what do you mean by Diflucan long enough ? My candida antibodies test, if I recall correctly, was negative. I have improved a lot on candida and have developed too much tolerance to sugar and wheat as compared to my past. MAZU: I lost everything, somewhere over 2k and too many hours, the guy in michigan is now up with new scheme and he is the president of the offshore company, and takes phone calls between 3pm and 7pm. Nadeem > >Reply-To: frequent-dose-chelation >To: frequent-dose-chelation >Subject: Re: vegetable juice <Nadeem> >Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 19:47:54 -0700 > >I see. Good. Are you carbohydrate intolerent too, or is it just the >candida? You don't have to answer, just thought I would through that >out there. > >I know we have talked in the past, but I forget a lot of the ground we >covered. > >Although I am not a proponent of using it in most cases, have you tried >working with Diflucan long enough to confirm that your symptoms really >are predominantly candida? >Have you done an actual Candida antibodies test? I do believe it is the >only test that actually shows something of merit. > >By the way...good thing you didn't have time to continue persuing the >Mazu venture...I lost everything with them. Never again! What a lesson >that was. > >~inga > > > > > > only vegetables with sugar are problem to me--not eggplant, green > > peppers,squash, spinach etc > > > > Nadeem > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 You probably don't have candida at all and you have citrobacter, klebsiella or a parasite. They are more carbohydrate/starch but also sugar fermenters. From your gut issues you also probably have mineral defiencies causing all sorts of inbalances inc issues with hormones and insulin regulation etc etc Phil > > > > > only vegetables with sugar are problem to me--not eggplant, green > > > peppers,squash, spinach etc > > > > > > Nadeem > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 You probably don't have candida at all and you have citrobacter, klebsiella or a parasite. They are more carbohydrate/starch but also sugar fermenters. From your gut issues you also probably have mineral defiencies causing all sorts of inbalances inc issues with hormones and insulin regulation etc etc Phil > > > > > only vegetables with sugar are problem to me--not eggplant, green > > > peppers,squash, spinach etc > > > > > > Nadeem > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 Thanks, might be possible, any test to confirm this ?. I do think mineral deficiency is one of my problem as I feel better after taking them--I have not taken them for long time and so might have deficiency, and was also not very careful about my diet in the past. Nadeem > >Reply-To: frequent-dose-chelation >To: frequent-dose-chelation >Subject: Re: vegetable juice <Nadeem> >Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 16:54:39 -0000 > >You probably don't have candida at all and you have citrobacter, >klebsiella or a parasite. They are more carbohydrate/starch but also >sugar fermenters. From your gut issues you also probably have mineral >defiencies causing all sorts of inbalances inc issues with hormones >and insulin regulation etc etc > >Phil > > > > > > > > > only vegetables with sugar are problem to me--not eggplant, >green > > > > peppers,squash, spinach etc > > > > > > > > Nadeem > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 Thanks, might be possible, any test to confirm this ?. I do think mineral deficiency is one of my problem as I feel better after taking them--I have not taken them for long time and so might have deficiency, and was also not very careful about my diet in the past. Nadeem > >Reply-To: frequent-dose-chelation >To: frequent-dose-chelation >Subject: Re: vegetable juice <Nadeem> >Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 16:54:39 -0000 > >You probably don't have candida at all and you have citrobacter, >klebsiella or a parasite. They are more carbohydrate/starch but also >sugar fermenters. From your gut issues you also probably have mineral >defiencies causing all sorts of inbalances inc issues with hormones >and insulin regulation etc etc > >Phil > > > > > > > > > only vegetables with sugar are problem to me--not eggplant, >green > > > > peppers,squash, spinach etc > > > > > > > > Nadeem > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 how to get rid of it ? Thanks, Nadeem > >Reply-To: frequent-dose-chelation >To: frequent-dose-chelation >Subject: Re: vegetable juice <Nadeem> >Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 16:54:39 -0000 > >You probably don't have candida at all and you have citrobacter, >klebsiella or a parasite. They are more carbohydrate/starch but also >sugar fermenters. From your gut issues you also probably have mineral >defiencies causing all sorts of inbalances inc issues with hormones >and insulin regulation etc etc > >Phil > > > > > > > > > only vegetables with sugar are problem to me--not eggplant, >green > > > > peppers,squash, spinach etc > > > > > > > > Nadeem > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 how to get rid of it ? Thanks, Nadeem > >Reply-To: frequent-dose-chelation >To: frequent-dose-chelation >Subject: Re: vegetable juice <Nadeem> >Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 16:54:39 -0000 > >You probably don't have candida at all and you have citrobacter, >klebsiella or a parasite. They are more carbohydrate/starch but also >sugar fermenters. From your gut issues you also probably have mineral >defiencies causing all sorts of inbalances inc issues with hormones >and insulin regulation etc etc > >Phil > > > > > > > > > only vegetables with sugar are problem to me--not eggplant, >green > > > > peppers,squash, spinach etc > > > > > > > > Nadeem > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 TK--- without testing it could very well be candida and or other pathogens as well. > > > > > > > only vegetables with sugar are problem to me--not eggplant, > green > > > > peppers,squash, spinach etc > > > > > > > > Nadeem > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 Now I recall, correctly, I was tested negative for candida antibody test. Thanks, Nadeem > >Reply-To: frequent-dose-chelation >To: frequent-dose-chelation >Subject: Re: vegetable juice <Nadeem> >Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 22:23:20 -0000 > > >TK--- without testing it could very well be candida and or other >pathogens as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > only vegetables with sugar are problem to me--not eggplant, > > green > > > > > peppers,squash, spinach etc > > > > > > > > > > Nadeem > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 Now I recall, correctly, I was tested negative for candida antibody test. Thanks, Nadeem > >Reply-To: frequent-dose-chelation >To: frequent-dose-chelation >Subject: Re: vegetable juice <Nadeem> >Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 22:23:20 -0000 > > >TK--- without testing it could very well be candida and or other >pathogens as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > only vegetables with sugar are problem to me--not eggplant, > > green > > > > > peppers,squash, spinach etc > > > > > > > > > > Nadeem > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 Now I recall, correctly, I was tested negative for candida antibody test. Thanks, Nadeem > >Reply-To: frequent-dose-chelation >To: frequent-dose-chelation >Subject: Re: vegetable juice <Nadeem> >Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 22:23:20 -0000 > > >TK--- without testing it could very well be candida and or other >pathogens as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > only vegetables with sugar are problem to me--not eggplant, > > green > > > > > peppers,squash, spinach etc > > > > > > > > > > Nadeem > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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