Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 Dave, High protein diets are not recommended for people with kidney disease. It can cause your condition to deteriorate more rapidly than if you were eating a regular diet. Here's a link to a study where they tracked protein intake and renal function in women over an 11 year period. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_ui ds=12639078 & dopt=Abstract It was found that in women with normal renal function the high protein diet didn't cause damage. The high protein diet accelerated the rate of damage in the women with pre-existing kidney disease. It's best to check with your nepthrologist regarding diets. They can give you advice or possibly get you in with a dietician who will customize a diet to help you lose weight without harming your renal function. Amy High Protein Diets > Hi everyone, > Not been here for a while, question for anyone who can answer. > I am thinking of going on a High Protein Diet such as Scarsdale or > even Cambridge, does anyone have any experience of using these > methods. > > Dave > > > > > > > To edit your settings for the group, go to our Yahoo Group > home page: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iga-nephropathy/ > > To unsubcribe via email, > iga-nephropathy-unsubscribe > Visit our companion website at www.igan.ca. The site is entirely supported by donations. If you would like to help, go to: > http://www.igan.ca/id62.htm > > Thank you > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 Dave, High protein diets are not recommended for people with kidney disease. It can cause your condition to deteriorate more rapidly than if you were eating a regular diet. Here's a link to a study where they tracked protein intake and renal function in women over an 11 year period. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_ui ds=12639078 & dopt=Abstract It was found that in women with normal renal function the high protein diet didn't cause damage. The high protein diet accelerated the rate of damage in the women with pre-existing kidney disease. It's best to check with your nepthrologist regarding diets. They can give you advice or possibly get you in with a dietician who will customize a diet to help you lose weight without harming your renal function. Amy High Protein Diets > Hi everyone, > Not been here for a while, question for anyone who can answer. > I am thinking of going on a High Protein Diet such as Scarsdale or > even Cambridge, does anyone have any experience of using these > methods. > > Dave > > > > > > > To edit your settings for the group, go to our Yahoo Group > home page: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iga-nephropathy/ > > To unsubcribe via email, > iga-nephropathy-unsubscribe > Visit our companion website at www.igan.ca. The site is entirely supported by donations. If you would like to help, go to: > http://www.igan.ca/id62.htm > > Thank you > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 Dave, High protein diets are not recommended for people with kidney disease. It can cause your condition to deteriorate more rapidly than if you were eating a regular diet. Here's a link to a study where they tracked protein intake and renal function in women over an 11 year period. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_ui ds=12639078 & dopt=Abstract It was found that in women with normal renal function the high protein diet didn't cause damage. The high protein diet accelerated the rate of damage in the women with pre-existing kidney disease. It's best to check with your nepthrologist regarding diets. They can give you advice or possibly get you in with a dietician who will customize a diet to help you lose weight without harming your renal function. Amy High Protein Diets > Hi everyone, > Not been here for a while, question for anyone who can answer. > I am thinking of going on a High Protein Diet such as Scarsdale or > even Cambridge, does anyone have any experience of using these > methods. > > Dave > > > > > > > To edit your settings for the group, go to our Yahoo Group > home page: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iga-nephropathy/ > > To unsubcribe via email, > iga-nephropathy-unsubscribe > Visit our companion website at www.igan.ca. The site is entirely supported by donations. If you would like to help, go to: > http://www.igan.ca/id62.htm > > Thank you > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 and Amy, Thank's for the response, I shall certainly not try these diets and will take advice from my Neph, whom I see next month. Thank you Dave > Dave, > High protein diets are not recommended for people with kidney disease. > It can cause your condition to deteriorate more rapidly than if you were > eating a regular diet. Here's a link to a study where they tracked protein > intake and renal function in women over an 11 year period. > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi? cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_ui > ds=12639078 & dopt=Abstract > It was found that in women with normal renal function the high protein diet > didn't cause damage. The high protein diet accelerated the rate of damage > in the women with pre-existing kidney disease. > > It's best to check with your nepthrologist regarding diets. They can give > you advice or possibly get you in with a dietician who will customize a diet > to help you lose weight without harming your renal function. > > Amy > > High Protein Diets > > > > Hi everyone, > > Not been here for a while, question for anyone who can answer. > > I am thinking of going on a High Protein Diet such as Scarsdale or > > even Cambridge, does anyone have any experience of using these > > methods. > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To edit your settings for the group, go to our Yahoo Group > > home page: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iga-nephropathy/ > > > > To unsubcribe via email, > > iga-nephropathy-unsubscribe > > Visit our companion website at www.igan.ca. The site is entirely supported > by donations. If you would like to help, go to: > > http://www.igan.ca/id62.htm > > > > Thank you > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 and Amy, Thank's for the response, I shall certainly not try these diets and will take advice from my Neph, whom I see next month. Thank you Dave > Dave, > High protein diets are not recommended for people with kidney disease. > It can cause your condition to deteriorate more rapidly than if you were > eating a regular diet. Here's a link to a study where they tracked protein > intake and renal function in women over an 11 year period. > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi? cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_ui > ds=12639078 & dopt=Abstract > It was found that in women with normal renal function the high protein diet > didn't cause damage. The high protein diet accelerated the rate of damage > in the women with pre-existing kidney disease. > > It's best to check with your nepthrologist regarding diets. They can give > you advice or possibly get you in with a dietician who will customize a diet > to help you lose weight without harming your renal function. > > Amy > > High Protein Diets > > > > Hi everyone, > > Not been here for a while, question for anyone who can answer. > > I am thinking of going on a High Protein Diet such as Scarsdale or > > even Cambridge, does anyone have any experience of using these > > methods. > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To edit your settings for the group, go to our Yahoo Group > > home page: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iga-nephropathy/ > > > > To unsubcribe via email, > > iga-nephropathy-unsubscribe > > Visit our companion website at www.igan.ca. The site is entirely supported > by donations. If you would like to help, go to: > > http://www.igan.ca/id62.htm > > > > Thank you > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 and Amy, Thank's for the response, I shall certainly not try these diets and will take advice from my Neph, whom I see next month. Thank you Dave > Dave, > High protein diets are not recommended for people with kidney disease. > It can cause your condition to deteriorate more rapidly than if you were > eating a regular diet. Here's a link to a study where they tracked protein > intake and renal function in women over an 11 year period. > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi? cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_ui > ds=12639078 & dopt=Abstract > It was found that in women with normal renal function the high protein diet > didn't cause damage. The high protein diet accelerated the rate of damage > in the women with pre-existing kidney disease. > > It's best to check with your nepthrologist regarding diets. They can give > you advice or possibly get you in with a dietician who will customize a diet > to help you lose weight without harming your renal function. > > Amy > > High Protein Diets > > > > Hi everyone, > > Not been here for a while, question for anyone who can answer. > > I am thinking of going on a High Protein Diet such as Scarsdale or > > even Cambridge, does anyone have any experience of using these > > methods. > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To edit your settings for the group, go to our Yahoo Group > > home page: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iga-nephropathy/ > > > > To unsubcribe via email, > > iga-nephropathy-unsubscribe > > Visit our companion website at www.igan.ca. The site is entirely supported > by donations. If you would like to help, go to: > > http://www.igan.ca/id62.htm > > > > Thank you > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 Dave, Promise promise promise me you will check with your neph (not your regular doctor) first! I'm not big on low protein diets, but doing the high protein thing seems ill-advised. Cy High Protein Diets > Hi everyone, > Not been here for a while, question for anyone who can answer. > I am thinking of going on a High Protein Diet such as Scarsdale or > even Cambridge, does anyone have any experience of using these > methods. > > Dave > > > > > > > To edit your settings for the group, go to our Yahoo Group > home page: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iga-nephropathy/ > > To unsubcribe via email, > iga-nephropathy-unsubscribe > Visit our companion website at www.igan.ca. The site is entirely supported by donations. If you would like to help, go to: > http://www.igan.ca/id62.htm > > Thank you > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 Dave, Promise promise promise me you will check with your neph (not your regular doctor) first! I'm not big on low protein diets, but doing the high protein thing seems ill-advised. Cy High Protein Diets > Hi everyone, > Not been here for a while, question for anyone who can answer. > I am thinking of going on a High Protein Diet such as Scarsdale or > even Cambridge, does anyone have any experience of using these > methods. > > Dave > > > > > > > To edit your settings for the group, go to our Yahoo Group > home page: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iga-nephropathy/ > > To unsubcribe via email, > iga-nephropathy-unsubscribe > Visit our companion website at www.igan.ca. The site is entirely supported by donations. If you would like to help, go to: > http://www.igan.ca/id62.htm > > Thank you > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 I don't want to preach, but, that simply would not be a good idea, Dave. In fact, it could literally hasten your progression towards dialysis. Pierre High Protein Diets > Hi everyone, > Not been here for a while, question for anyone who can answer. > I am thinking of going on a High Protein Diet such as Scarsdale or > even Cambridge, does anyone have any experience of using these > methods. > > Dave > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 I don't want to preach, but, that simply would not be a good idea, Dave. In fact, it could literally hasten your progression towards dialysis. Pierre High Protein Diets > Hi everyone, > Not been here for a while, question for anyone who can answer. > I am thinking of going on a High Protein Diet such as Scarsdale or > even Cambridge, does anyone have any experience of using these > methods. > > Dave > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 I don't want to preach, but, that simply would not be a good idea, Dave. In fact, it could literally hasten your progression towards dialysis. Pierre High Protein Diets > Hi everyone, > Not been here for a while, question for anyone who can answer. > I am thinking of going on a High Protein Diet such as Scarsdale or > even Cambridge, does anyone have any experience of using these > methods. > > Dave > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2004 Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 Dave, I was told to limited my protien intake. The more we eat the more we lose. Which I always and still think is wacked, but you should talk to your doctor or a dietian. martha -- In iga-nephropathy , " Dave Scullion " <scullion01803@y...> wrote: > Hi everyone, > Not been here for a while, question for anyone who can answer. > I am thinking of going on a High Protein Diet such as Scarsdale or > even Cambridge, does anyone have any experience of using these > methods. > > Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2004 Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 Dave, I was told to limited my protien intake. The more we eat the more we lose. Which I always and still think is wacked, but you should talk to your doctor or a dietian. martha -- In iga-nephropathy , " Dave Scullion " <scullion01803@y...> wrote: > Hi everyone, > Not been here for a while, question for anyone who can answer. > I am thinking of going on a High Protein Diet such as Scarsdale or > even Cambridge, does anyone have any experience of using these > methods. > > Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2004 Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 Dave, I was told to limited my protien intake. The more we eat the more we lose. Which I always and still think is wacked, but you should talk to your doctor or a dietian. martha -- In iga-nephropathy , " Dave Scullion " <scullion01803@y...> wrote: > Hi everyone, > Not been here for a while, question for anyone who can answer. > I am thinking of going on a High Protein Diet such as Scarsdale or > even Cambridge, does anyone have any experience of using these > methods. > > Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2004 Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 The other thing to bear in mind is that people often refer to say Atkins as a " High protein diet " . In actuality it is not at all. What it is is a low carbohydrate diet. You will lose weight if your body has to tap fat reserves to get its energy rather than what it considers easier energy sources of sugar which comes from carbs. If you moderate your carbs, without increasing your proteins, you will lose weight. Just eat less bread, pasta and rice, you WILL lose weight. W Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2004 Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 I might add that there is a warning against going on the Atkins diet if you have kidney disease at the Atkins diet home page. This in Atkins own words. n a message dated 6/4/2004 6:58:27 PM Pacific Daylight Time, pgl-groups@... writes: > Whenever someone gets to the point of being prescribed a low protein renal > diet (when you reach down to 30% kidney function, or less, approximately), > note that this diet is a *low protein " " high calorie " diet - almost the > exact opposite of the Atkins diet. > > I'm not saying someone with mild IgAN with little actual loss of kidney > function couldn't do the Atkins diet. They probably could, since they have > lots of reserve kidney function, but, it probably would not be advisable in > the long term. I can almost guarantee that no nephrologist would think it's > a good idea. > Pierre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2004 Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 I might add that there is a warning against going on the Atkins diet if you have kidney disease at the Atkins diet home page. This in Atkins own words. n a message dated 6/4/2004 6:58:27 PM Pacific Daylight Time, pgl-groups@... writes: > Whenever someone gets to the point of being prescribed a low protein renal > diet (when you reach down to 30% kidney function, or less, approximately), > note that this diet is a *low protein " " high calorie " diet - almost the > exact opposite of the Atkins diet. > > I'm not saying someone with mild IgAN with little actual loss of kidney > function couldn't do the Atkins diet. They probably could, since they have > lots of reserve kidney function, but, it probably would not be advisable in > the long term. I can almost guarantee that no nephrologist would think it's > a good idea. > Pierre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2004 Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 I might add that there is a warning against going on the Atkins diet if you have kidney disease at the Atkins diet home page. This in Atkins own words. n a message dated 6/4/2004 6:58:27 PM Pacific Daylight Time, pgl-groups@... writes: > Whenever someone gets to the point of being prescribed a low protein renal > diet (when you reach down to 30% kidney function, or less, approximately), > note that this diet is a *low protein " " high calorie " diet - almost the > exact opposite of the Atkins diet. > > I'm not saying someone with mild IgAN with little actual loss of kidney > function couldn't do the Atkins diet. They probably could, since they have > lots of reserve kidney function, but, it probably would not be advisable in > the long term. I can almost guarantee that no nephrologist would think it's > a good idea. > Pierre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2004 Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 Whenever someone gets to the point of being prescribed a low protein renal diet (when you reach down to 30% kidney function, or less, approximately), note that this diet is a *low protein " " high calorie " diet - almost the exact opposite of the Atkins diet. I'm not saying someone with mild IgAN with little actual loss of kidney function couldn't do the Atkins diet. They probably could, since they have lots of reserve kidney function, but, it probably would not be advisable in the long term. I can almost guarantee that no nephrologist would think it's a good idea. Pierre Re: High Protein Diets > I guess I sort of differ with you . I do understand about the tapping into the fat reserves, but the kind of carbs to moderate are the white flour, white sugar junk! My neph still thinks it best for ME to stick with a low protein diet. As far as losing weight, cutting calories and chosing the healthiest options, along with exercise is the best way. I guess what I'm saying is I don't buy into these fad sort of diets. They do work but they work by cutting calories - there really is nothing new to it! I don't believe in omitting any food group. Everything in moderation. > > > peterwhitaker@... wrote: > The other thing to bear in mind is that people often refer to say Atkins as a > " High protein diet " . In actuality it is not at all. What it is is a low > carbohydrate diet. You will lose weight if your body has to tap fat reserves to get > its energy rather than what it considers easier energy sources of sugar which > comes from carbs. If you moderate your carbs, without increasing your > proteins, you will lose weight. Just eat less bread, pasta and rice, you WILL lose > weight. > W > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2004 Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 Whenever someone gets to the point of being prescribed a low protein renal diet (when you reach down to 30% kidney function, or less, approximately), note that this diet is a *low protein " " high calorie " diet - almost the exact opposite of the Atkins diet. I'm not saying someone with mild IgAN with little actual loss of kidney function couldn't do the Atkins diet. They probably could, since they have lots of reserve kidney function, but, it probably would not be advisable in the long term. I can almost guarantee that no nephrologist would think it's a good idea. Pierre Re: High Protein Diets > I guess I sort of differ with you . I do understand about the tapping into the fat reserves, but the kind of carbs to moderate are the white flour, white sugar junk! My neph still thinks it best for ME to stick with a low protein diet. As far as losing weight, cutting calories and chosing the healthiest options, along with exercise is the best way. I guess what I'm saying is I don't buy into these fad sort of diets. They do work but they work by cutting calories - there really is nothing new to it! I don't believe in omitting any food group. Everything in moderation. > > > peterwhitaker@... wrote: > The other thing to bear in mind is that people often refer to say Atkins as a > " High protein diet " . In actuality it is not at all. What it is is a low > carbohydrate diet. You will lose weight if your body has to tap fat reserves to get > its energy rather than what it considers easier energy sources of sugar which > comes from carbs. If you moderate your carbs, without increasing your > proteins, you will lose weight. Just eat less bread, pasta and rice, you WILL lose > weight. > W > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2004 Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 Whenever someone gets to the point of being prescribed a low protein renal diet (when you reach down to 30% kidney function, or less, approximately), note that this diet is a *low protein " " high calorie " diet - almost the exact opposite of the Atkins diet. I'm not saying someone with mild IgAN with little actual loss of kidney function couldn't do the Atkins diet. They probably could, since they have lots of reserve kidney function, but, it probably would not be advisable in the long term. I can almost guarantee that no nephrologist would think it's a good idea. Pierre Re: High Protein Diets > I guess I sort of differ with you . I do understand about the tapping into the fat reserves, but the kind of carbs to moderate are the white flour, white sugar junk! My neph still thinks it best for ME to stick with a low protein diet. As far as losing weight, cutting calories and chosing the healthiest options, along with exercise is the best way. I guess what I'm saying is I don't buy into these fad sort of diets. They do work but they work by cutting calories - there really is nothing new to it! I don't believe in omitting any food group. Everything in moderation. > > > peterwhitaker@... wrote: > The other thing to bear in mind is that people often refer to say Atkins as a > " High protein diet " . In actuality it is not at all. What it is is a low > carbohydrate diet. You will lose weight if your body has to tap fat reserves to get > its energy rather than what it considers easier energy sources of sugar which > comes from carbs. If you moderate your carbs, without increasing your > proteins, you will lose weight. Just eat less bread, pasta and rice, you WILL lose > weight. > W > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2004 Report Share Posted June 5, 2004 I was not advocating Atkins, whatsoever. What I said was in response to someone asking how to lose weight without increasing proteins. What I suggested was cutting back on carbs, reducing amount of `starches, that is all. Less potatoes, rice, bread, pasta etc, not zero carbs, just less. It is not a diet, just a different lifestyle. W In a message dated 6/4/2004 7:53:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jrzyrita@... writes: I guess I sort of differ with you . I do understand about the tapping into the fat reserves, but the kind of carbs to moderate are the white flour, white sugar junk! My neph still thinks it best for ME to stick with a low protein diet. As far as losing weight, cutting calories and chosing the healthiest options, along with exercise is the best way. I guess what I'm saying is I don't buy into these fad sort of diets. They do work but they work by cutting calories - there really is nothing new to it! I don't believe in omitting any food group. Everything in moderation. peterwhitaker@... wrote: The other thing to bear in mind is that people often refer to say Atkins as a " High protein diet " . In actuality it is not at all. What it is is a low carbohydrate diet. You will lose weight if your body has to tap fat reserves to get its energy rather than what it considers easier energy sources of sugar which comes from carbs. If you moderate your carbs, without increasing your proteins, you will lose weight. Just eat less bread, pasta and rice, you WILL lose weight. W Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2004 Report Share Posted June 5, 2004 I was not advocating Atkins, whatsoever. What I said was in response to someone asking how to lose weight without increasing proteins. What I suggested was cutting back on carbs, reducing amount of `starches, that is all. Less potatoes, rice, bread, pasta etc, not zero carbs, just less. It is not a diet, just a different lifestyle. W In a message dated 6/4/2004 7:53:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jrzyrita@... writes: I guess I sort of differ with you . I do understand about the tapping into the fat reserves, but the kind of carbs to moderate are the white flour, white sugar junk! My neph still thinks it best for ME to stick with a low protein diet. As far as losing weight, cutting calories and chosing the healthiest options, along with exercise is the best way. I guess what I'm saying is I don't buy into these fad sort of diets. They do work but they work by cutting calories - there really is nothing new to it! I don't believe in omitting any food group. Everything in moderation. peterwhitaker@... wrote: The other thing to bear in mind is that people often refer to say Atkins as a " High protein diet " . In actuality it is not at all. What it is is a low carbohydrate diet. You will lose weight if your body has to tap fat reserves to get its energy rather than what it considers easier energy sources of sugar which comes from carbs. If you moderate your carbs, without increasing your proteins, you will lose weight. Just eat less bread, pasta and rice, you WILL lose weight. W Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2004 Report Share Posted June 5, 2004 I was not advocating Atkins, whatsoever. What I said was in response to someone asking how to lose weight without increasing proteins. What I suggested was cutting back on carbs, reducing amount of `starches, that is all. Less potatoes, rice, bread, pasta etc, not zero carbs, just less. It is not a diet, just a different lifestyle. W In a message dated 6/4/2004 7:53:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jrzyrita@... writes: I guess I sort of differ with you . I do understand about the tapping into the fat reserves, but the kind of carbs to moderate are the white flour, white sugar junk! My neph still thinks it best for ME to stick with a low protein diet. As far as losing weight, cutting calories and chosing the healthiest options, along with exercise is the best way. I guess what I'm saying is I don't buy into these fad sort of diets. They do work but they work by cutting calories - there really is nothing new to it! I don't believe in omitting any food group. Everything in moderation. peterwhitaker@... wrote: The other thing to bear in mind is that people often refer to say Atkins as a " High protein diet " . In actuality it is not at all. What it is is a low carbohydrate diet. You will lose weight if your body has to tap fat reserves to get its energy rather than what it considers easier energy sources of sugar which comes from carbs. If you moderate your carbs, without increasing your proteins, you will lose weight. Just eat less bread, pasta and rice, you WILL lose weight. W Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2004 Report Share Posted June 5, 2004 Hi . Don't feel like we're all coming down on you. I appreciate your input and your correcting any misconceptions about it. Pierre Re: High Protein Diets > > I was not advocating Atkins, whatsoever. What I said was in response to > someone asking how to lose weight without increasing proteins. What I suggested > was cutting back on carbs, reducing amount of `starches, that is all. Less > potatoes, rice, bread, pasta etc, not zero carbs, just less. It is not a diet, > just a different lifestyle. > W > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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