Guest guest Posted August 30, 2005 Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 , I know about not taking vitamins 4 hours before or after the thyroid janx...but i don't know about any of the other stuff that affects it. I'll try splitting the pills, see how that works. I see my doc again in a couple of weeks. He " promises " he'll make my temp go back up with the new meds...but he also said I'd feel like crap all the time until i adjust. I don't wanna feel like crap but then, i don't wanna feel like this . Craziness. -v Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2005 Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 , I know about not taking vitamins 4 hours before or after the thyroid janx...but i don't know about any of the other stuff that affects it. I'll try splitting the pills, see how that works. I see my doc again in a couple of weeks. He " promises " he'll make my temp go back up with the new meds...but he also said I'd feel like crap all the time until i adjust. I don't wanna feel like crap but then, i don't wanna feel like this . Craziness. -v Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2005 Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 , I know about not taking vitamins 4 hours before or after the thyroid janx...but i don't know about any of the other stuff that affects it. I'll try splitting the pills, see how that works. I see my doc again in a couple of weeks. He " promises " he'll make my temp go back up with the new meds...but he also said I'd feel like crap all the time until i adjust. I don't wanna feel like crap but then, i don't wanna feel like this . Craziness. -v Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2005 Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 Hello , Welcome to one of the best groups that I belong to... Now, here come a few questions... How do you take your Armour? Do you take it all at once? Or split into multiple doses...(for me, I take 1/2 of my dosage upon rising, 1/4 early afternoon, and the last 1/4 right before bedtime.) There are some of us who do better with 5 or 6 mini doses a day...We are all individuals who have to learn what works best for our own body. Swallowed or desolved under the tongue (sublingual)? Do and/or did you take the medicine 1 hour before you eat, and/or 3+ hours after you have eatten your last meal, so that the med had all the stomach acids to itself to enable the med to breakdown and become available to be absorbed? How long have you been on your current dose level of Armour? Are you aware that it takes up to 6 weeks for each adjustment or change of medicine to fully take effect in the body? And last, are you aware that you are allowed to FIRE any doctor that is not willing to take the time to listen to your bodies problems? Is not willing to work with you in regaining your bodies health? I fired my last Doctor and have never looked back... I treat based upon how I feel, first. then I treat based upon my bodies rising basal temperature and third I treat based upon my Free T4 and Free T3's.. once a year I get a complete bloodwork up, just to check... One other thing...you asked about diet I seem to remember...For me, I do best on a High Protein diet...my carbs come from veggies and seasonal fruits....ABSOLUTELY NO SUGAR, PROCESSED FLOURS, PROCESSED FOODS IN GENERAL...AND I HAVE TO WATCH MY SALT INTAKE... > Hey all, > So I'm new to this, and I really don't know how it all > works...but I thought I'd give it a try anyway. I'm not sure what I am > anymore. I had a thyroidectomy a couple of years ago for > being " hyperthyroid " according to my tsh levels (though I felt fine > and didn't mind losing weight so easily!) Recently, my tsh has gone > way down but I've got nearly all the hypo- symptoms. I heard about > 's Syndrome and I'm seeing a doc about that now. He has me on > armour and I feel like it's making me worse. I've been living with > constant dizziness, depersonalization, depression, and extreme anxiety > for the past 6 months. It's been screwing up my social life, my work, > and my ability to concentrate in classes. It's just no fun at all. > It's miserable. I'm 19 and I feel like I'm 80. I get the chest pains, > panic attacks, fear of a heart attack and stroke,illusions, and all > the other wonderful compliments of anxiety. I've gone through all the > possible tests, and had a number of fights with my endocrinologist who > brushes the whole thing off because I'm a " kid, " and I'm " fine. " > Really frustrating...not sure where to turn at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2005 Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 Hello , Welcome to one of the best groups that I belong to... Now, here come a few questions... How do you take your Armour? Do you take it all at once? Or split into multiple doses...(for me, I take 1/2 of my dosage upon rising, 1/4 early afternoon, and the last 1/4 right before bedtime.) There are some of us who do better with 5 or 6 mini doses a day...We are all individuals who have to learn what works best for our own body. Swallowed or desolved under the tongue (sublingual)? Do and/or did you take the medicine 1 hour before you eat, and/or 3+ hours after you have eatten your last meal, so that the med had all the stomach acids to itself to enable the med to breakdown and become available to be absorbed? How long have you been on your current dose level of Armour? Are you aware that it takes up to 6 weeks for each adjustment or change of medicine to fully take effect in the body? And last, are you aware that you are allowed to FIRE any doctor that is not willing to take the time to listen to your bodies problems? Is not willing to work with you in regaining your bodies health? I fired my last Doctor and have never looked back... I treat based upon how I feel, first. then I treat based upon my bodies rising basal temperature and third I treat based upon my Free T4 and Free T3's.. once a year I get a complete bloodwork up, just to check... One other thing...you asked about diet I seem to remember...For me, I do best on a High Protein diet...my carbs come from veggies and seasonal fruits....ABSOLUTELY NO SUGAR, PROCESSED FLOURS, PROCESSED FOODS IN GENERAL...AND I HAVE TO WATCH MY SALT INTAKE... > Hey all, > So I'm new to this, and I really don't know how it all > works...but I thought I'd give it a try anyway. I'm not sure what I am > anymore. I had a thyroidectomy a couple of years ago for > being " hyperthyroid " according to my tsh levels (though I felt fine > and didn't mind losing weight so easily!) Recently, my tsh has gone > way down but I've got nearly all the hypo- symptoms. I heard about > 's Syndrome and I'm seeing a doc about that now. He has me on > armour and I feel like it's making me worse. I've been living with > constant dizziness, depersonalization, depression, and extreme anxiety > for the past 6 months. It's been screwing up my social life, my work, > and my ability to concentrate in classes. It's just no fun at all. > It's miserable. I'm 19 and I feel like I'm 80. I get the chest pains, > panic attacks, fear of a heart attack and stroke,illusions, and all > the other wonderful compliments of anxiety. I've gone through all the > possible tests, and had a number of fights with my endocrinologist who > brushes the whole thing off because I'm a " kid, " and I'm " fine. " > Really frustrating...not sure where to turn at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2005 Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 Hey, I think I forgot to sign my little, however a bit long, note to you... Its a bit late for me..got to hit the sack earlier than this on busy days at the office.... Gossimer > Hey all, > So I'm new to this, and I really don't know how it all > works...but I thought I'd give it a try anyway. I'm not sure what I am > anymore. I had a thyroidectomy a couple of years ago for > being " hyperthyroid " according to my tsh levels (though I felt fine > and didn't mind losing weight so easily!) Recently, my tsh has gone > way down but I've got nearly all the hypo- symptoms. I heard about > 's Syndrome and I'm seeing a doc about that now. He has me on > armour and I feel like it's making me worse. I've been living with > constant dizziness, depersonalization, depression, and extreme anxiety > for the past 6 months. It's been screwing up my social life, my work, > and my ability to concentrate in classes. It's just no fun at all. > It's miserable. I'm 19 and I feel like I'm 80. I get the chest pains, > panic attacks, fear of a heart attack and stroke,illusions, and all > the other wonderful compliments of anxiety. I've gone through all the > possible tests, and had a number of fights with my endocrinologist who > brushes the whole thing off because I'm a " kid, " and I'm " fine. " > Really frustrating...not sure where to turn at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2005 Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 Hey, I think I forgot to sign my little, however a bit long, note to you... Its a bit late for me..got to hit the sack earlier than this on busy days at the office.... Gossimer > Hey all, > So I'm new to this, and I really don't know how it all > works...but I thought I'd give it a try anyway. I'm not sure what I am > anymore. I had a thyroidectomy a couple of years ago for > being " hyperthyroid " according to my tsh levels (though I felt fine > and didn't mind losing weight so easily!) Recently, my tsh has gone > way down but I've got nearly all the hypo- symptoms. I heard about > 's Syndrome and I'm seeing a doc about that now. He has me on > armour and I feel like it's making me worse. I've been living with > constant dizziness, depersonalization, depression, and extreme anxiety > for the past 6 months. It's been screwing up my social life, my work, > and my ability to concentrate in classes. It's just no fun at all. > It's miserable. I'm 19 and I feel like I'm 80. I get the chest pains, > panic attacks, fear of a heart attack and stroke,illusions, and all > the other wonderful compliments of anxiety. I've gone through all the > possible tests, and had a number of fights with my endocrinologist who > brushes the whole thing off because I'm a " kid, " and I'm " fine. " > Really frustrating...not sure where to turn at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2005 Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 Oh, I forgot to ask....How much Armour are you currently taking? How much of the synthetic T4 were you taking before you started on Armour? How were you feeling on the Synthetic? Why did you change to Armour? Gossimer > Hey all, > So I'm new to this, and I really don't know how it all > works...but I thought I'd give it a try anyway. I'm not sure what I am > anymore. I had a thyroidectomy a couple of years ago for > being " hyperthyroid " according to my tsh levels (though I felt fine > and didn't mind losing weight so easily!) Recently, my tsh has gone > way down but I've got nearly all the hypo- symptoms. I heard about > 's Syndrome and I'm seeing a doc about that now. He has me on > armour and I feel like it's making me worse. I've been living with > constant dizziness, depersonalization, depression, and extreme anxiety > for the past 6 months. It's been screwing up my social life, my work, > and my ability to concentrate in classes. It's just no fun at all. > It's miserable. I'm 19 and I feel like I'm 80. I get the chest pains, > panic attacks, fear of a heart attack and stroke,illusions, and all > the other wonderful compliments of anxiety. I've gone through all the > possible tests, and had a number of fights with my endocrinologist who > brushes the whole thing off because I'm a " kid, " and I'm " fine. " > Really frustrating...not sure where to turn at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2005 Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 Oh, I forgot to ask....How much Armour are you currently taking? How much of the synthetic T4 were you taking before you started on Armour? How were you feeling on the Synthetic? Why did you change to Armour? Gossimer > Hey all, > So I'm new to this, and I really don't know how it all > works...but I thought I'd give it a try anyway. I'm not sure what I am > anymore. I had a thyroidectomy a couple of years ago for > being " hyperthyroid " according to my tsh levels (though I felt fine > and didn't mind losing weight so easily!) Recently, my tsh has gone > way down but I've got nearly all the hypo- symptoms. I heard about > 's Syndrome and I'm seeing a doc about that now. He has me on > armour and I feel like it's making me worse. I've been living with > constant dizziness, depersonalization, depression, and extreme anxiety > for the past 6 months. It's been screwing up my social life, my work, > and my ability to concentrate in classes. It's just no fun at all. > It's miserable. I'm 19 and I feel like I'm 80. I get the chest pains, > panic attacks, fear of a heart attack and stroke,illusions, and all > the other wonderful compliments of anxiety. I've gone through all the > possible tests, and had a number of fights with my endocrinologist who > brushes the whole thing off because I'm a " kid, " and I'm " fine. " > Really frustrating...not sure where to turn at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2005 Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 Oh, I forgot to ask....How much Armour are you currently taking? How much of the synthetic T4 were you taking before you started on Armour? How were you feeling on the Synthetic? Why did you change to Armour? Gossimer > Hey all, > So I'm new to this, and I really don't know how it all > works...but I thought I'd give it a try anyway. I'm not sure what I am > anymore. I had a thyroidectomy a couple of years ago for > being " hyperthyroid " according to my tsh levels (though I felt fine > and didn't mind losing weight so easily!) Recently, my tsh has gone > way down but I've got nearly all the hypo- symptoms. I heard about > 's Syndrome and I'm seeing a doc about that now. He has me on > armour and I feel like it's making me worse. I've been living with > constant dizziness, depersonalization, depression, and extreme anxiety > for the past 6 months. It's been screwing up my social life, my work, > and my ability to concentrate in classes. It's just no fun at all. > It's miserable. I'm 19 and I feel like I'm 80. I get the chest pains, > panic attacks, fear of a heart attack and stroke,illusions, and all > the other wonderful compliments of anxiety. I've gone through all the > possible tests, and had a number of fights with my endocrinologist who > brushes the whole thing off because I'm a " kid, " and I'm " fine. " > Really frustrating...not sure where to turn at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2005 Report Share Posted August 31, 2005 I had all my panic attacks on the T4, so that's when I began feeling bad. I was on 112 mcg...then, after talking to a new doctor who advocates 's...I started on 60 mg of Armour. I feel a bit worse now...but then, it doesn't much help that I'm going in and out of smoking, does it? :o/. -v Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2005 Report Share Posted August 31, 2005 I had all my panic attacks on the T4, so that's when I began feeling bad. I was on 112 mcg...then, after talking to a new doctor who advocates 's...I started on 60 mg of Armour. I feel a bit worse now...but then, it doesn't much help that I'm going in and out of smoking, does it? :o/. -v Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2005 Report Share Posted August 31, 2005 Hi , I've been meaning to tell you -- sometimes people who respond badly to thyroid medicine [even though they really need it] are also in need of adrenal support. In fact, those that get symptoms of seeming overstimulation even while they are not yet on an optimal dosage for their thyroid -- are often low adrenal. This is common but many doctors don't bother testing the adrenals unless you have total failure of them. The interesting thing is that before thyroid treatment, we often don't have symptoms of low adrenals because the thryoid is so sluggishly clearing out everything including the extremely important adrenal hormone, cortisol, but then when you start taking thyroid hormones the thyroid clears it out at a quicker rate -- and if your adrenals are not able to keep up, you feel worse ... I've listed great books, that explain how all of this works, on the File section of the homepage of this group ... many people who start adrenal support at this point, feel much much better. It can consist of using licorice, ginseng, sea salt, adrenal glandulars, B Complex, Vit C, eating a low glycemic diet and eating every few hours, and then if you still need help trying DHEA and/or a physiological dose of natural hydrocortisone to help boost the hydrocortisone that the adrenals are trying to make themselves. This is usually temporary until they recover. There are 4x/day saliva and 24hr urine tests that measure both DHEA and cortisol ... if your doctor won't test you (and spot blood tests usually aren't thorough enough), you can order tests yourself through Dr Shames's website ... Marlena --- " emdadi, vanessa " wrote: > I had all my panic attacks on the T4, so that's > when I began feeling bad. I was on 112 mcg...then, > after talking to a new doctor who advocates > 's...I started on 60 mg of Armour. I feel a > bit worse now...but then, it doesn't much help that > I'm going in and out of smoking, does it? :o/. > -v > ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2005 Report Share Posted August 31, 2005 Hi , I've been meaning to tell you -- sometimes people who respond badly to thyroid medicine [even though they really need it] are also in need of adrenal support. In fact, those that get symptoms of seeming overstimulation even while they are not yet on an optimal dosage for their thyroid -- are often low adrenal. This is common but many doctors don't bother testing the adrenals unless you have total failure of them. The interesting thing is that before thyroid treatment, we often don't have symptoms of low adrenals because the thryoid is so sluggishly clearing out everything including the extremely important adrenal hormone, cortisol, but then when you start taking thyroid hormones the thyroid clears it out at a quicker rate -- and if your adrenals are not able to keep up, you feel worse ... I've listed great books, that explain how all of this works, on the File section of the homepage of this group ... many people who start adrenal support at this point, feel much much better. It can consist of using licorice, ginseng, sea salt, adrenal glandulars, B Complex, Vit C, eating a low glycemic diet and eating every few hours, and then if you still need help trying DHEA and/or a physiological dose of natural hydrocortisone to help boost the hydrocortisone that the adrenals are trying to make themselves. This is usually temporary until they recover. There are 4x/day saliva and 24hr urine tests that measure both DHEA and cortisol ... if your doctor won't test you (and spot blood tests usually aren't thorough enough), you can order tests yourself through Dr Shames's website ... Marlena --- " emdadi, vanessa " wrote: > I had all my panic attacks on the T4, so that's > when I began feeling bad. I was on 112 mcg...then, > after talking to a new doctor who advocates > 's...I started on 60 mg of Armour. I feel a > bit worse now...but then, it doesn't much help that > I'm going in and out of smoking, does it? :o/. > -v > ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2005 Report Share Posted August 31, 2005 Hi , I've been meaning to tell you -- sometimes people who respond badly to thyroid medicine [even though they really need it] are also in need of adrenal support. In fact, those that get symptoms of seeming overstimulation even while they are not yet on an optimal dosage for their thyroid -- are often low adrenal. This is common but many doctors don't bother testing the adrenals unless you have total failure of them. The interesting thing is that before thyroid treatment, we often don't have symptoms of low adrenals because the thryoid is so sluggishly clearing out everything including the extremely important adrenal hormone, cortisol, but then when you start taking thyroid hormones the thyroid clears it out at a quicker rate -- and if your adrenals are not able to keep up, you feel worse ... I've listed great books, that explain how all of this works, on the File section of the homepage of this group ... many people who start adrenal support at this point, feel much much better. It can consist of using licorice, ginseng, sea salt, adrenal glandulars, B Complex, Vit C, eating a low glycemic diet and eating every few hours, and then if you still need help trying DHEA and/or a physiological dose of natural hydrocortisone to help boost the hydrocortisone that the adrenals are trying to make themselves. This is usually temporary until they recover. There are 4x/day saliva and 24hr urine tests that measure both DHEA and cortisol ... if your doctor won't test you (and spot blood tests usually aren't thorough enough), you can order tests yourself through Dr Shames's website ... Marlena --- " emdadi, vanessa " wrote: > I had all my panic attacks on the T4, so that's > when I began feeling bad. I was on 112 mcg...then, > after talking to a new doctor who advocates > 's...I started on 60 mg of Armour. I feel a > bit worse now...but then, it doesn't much help that > I'm going in and out of smoking, does it? :o/. > -v > ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2005 Report Share Posted August 31, 2005 Hm...perhaps. So what kinds of symptoms are you struggling with? I keep thinking that maybe mine are not related to my thyroid exclusively, at that there's something else horribly wrong with me. But then, I've been known for being a hypochondriac, *shrug*. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2005 Report Share Posted August 31, 2005 Hm...perhaps. So what kinds of symptoms are you struggling with? I keep thinking that maybe mine are not related to my thyroid exclusively, at that there's something else horribly wrong with me. But then, I've been known for being a hypochondriac, *shrug*. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005  Hi Emdadi (sorry I don't know your name), I wasn't sure if you were asking me, or someone else, but I can say that I didn't realise that my symptoms were related at all and thought there must be something else wrong (wondered about ME, MS, and all sorts of things) but suddenly it's all clicked! The answer has got to be in testing, I think. Hope you get sorted out soon, too, and prove to them that you're not a hypochondriac. Love Chris RE: Re: Newbie me Hm...perhaps. So what kinds of symptoms are you struggling with? I keep thinking that maybe mine are not related to my thyroid exclusively, at that there's something else horribly wrong with me. But then, I've been known for being a hypochondriac, *shrug*. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005  Hi Emdadi (sorry I don't know your name), I wasn't sure if you were asking me, or someone else, but I can say that I didn't realise that my symptoms were related at all and thought there must be something else wrong (wondered about ME, MS, and all sorts of things) but suddenly it's all clicked! The answer has got to be in testing, I think. Hope you get sorted out soon, too, and prove to them that you're not a hypochondriac. Love Chris RE: Re: Newbie me Hm...perhaps. So what kinds of symptoms are you struggling with? I keep thinking that maybe mine are not related to my thyroid exclusively, at that there's something else horribly wrong with me. But then, I've been known for being a hypochondriac, *shrug*. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005  Hi Emdadi (sorry I don't know your name), I wasn't sure if you were asking me, or someone else, but I can say that I didn't realise that my symptoms were related at all and thought there must be something else wrong (wondered about ME, MS, and all sorts of things) but suddenly it's all clicked! The answer has got to be in testing, I think. Hope you get sorted out soon, too, and prove to them that you're not a hypochondriac. Love Chris RE: Re: Newbie me Hm...perhaps. So what kinds of symptoms are you struggling with? I keep thinking that maybe mine are not related to my thyroid exclusively, at that there's something else horribly wrong with me. But then, I've been known for being a hypochondriac, *shrug*. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 That's good to hear. Sometimes I really feel like I'm losing my mind. It's difficult to explain my symptoms to other perople...the best way for me to describe it is by telling them I'm in a constant high with slight hallucinations. But then, that just makes me sound like a pothead college student and no one takes me seriously. Sucks. -vanessa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 That's good to hear. Sometimes I really feel like I'm losing my mind. It's difficult to explain my symptoms to other perople...the best way for me to describe it is by telling them I'm in a constant high with slight hallucinations. But then, that just makes me sound like a pothead college student and no one takes me seriously. Sucks. -vanessa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 That's good to hear. Sometimes I really feel like I'm losing my mind. It's difficult to explain my symptoms to other perople...the best way for me to describe it is by telling them I'm in a constant high with slight hallucinations. But then, that just makes me sound like a pothead college student and no one takes me seriously. Sucks. -vanessa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005  Oh , that's got to be hard to cope with. I hope that you do find the answer to it. Love Chris RE: Re: Newbie me That's good to hear. Sometimes I really feel like I'm losing my mind. It's difficult to explain my symptoms to other perople...the best way for me to describe it is by telling them I'm in a constant high with slight hallucinations. But then, that just makes me sound like a pothead college student and no one takes me seriously. Sucks. -vanessa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005  Oh , that's got to be hard to cope with. I hope that you do find the answer to it. Love Chris RE: Re: Newbie me That's good to hear. Sometimes I really feel like I'm losing my mind. It's difficult to explain my symptoms to other perople...the best way for me to describe it is by telling them I'm in a constant high with slight hallucinations. But then, that just makes me sound like a pothead college student and no one takes me seriously. Sucks. -vanessa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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