Re: Marlena ideas

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Marlena:

I would really press this issue of the urine testing with your doc. I would like to know how tissue equals urine. My understanding is...that the only way to get a tissue sample...is by cutting a piece of you off.

Yes...it is very true that blood testing has its drawbacks...but the thing that makes them nice around here, is that we are aware of the pitfalls. Urine testing may be the greatest thing..but its hard to know whether to trust it or not.

I still don't follow your reasoning when you say why you think it is superior. I don't understand why you also are concerned about the conversion? I'm wondering if you aren't focusing on some stuff that is gonna wind up being a dead end for you.

One should shoot for the t3free and t4free to be upper end of the range...so I don't know really how we are gonna do that with you. What is your doctor shooting for? Maybe you should ask him that. He sounds like he would love to enertain your questions.

Believe me...there were times when I thought I leaned it all and had good docs. I would have killed you if you dared tell me different. I've been through a lot of hard days when trying to arrive at the truth. Its easy to get seduced by doctors and bad advice. Not...saying that is happening to you..... but I'd like you to keep your eyes peeled. Question EVERYTHING Marlena.

You write beautifully by the way. Are you a teacher?

~E:)

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Marlena wrote:

Hi Topper, I'll answer your questions in text:--- topper2@... wrote:> If your frees were both about mid range with those> other tests, to me> that is still showing that you don't have enough T3> in your system and> that accounts for your hypo symptoms...I agree. That is why I increased my dosage at thatpoint ... > Would you mind running through what you are> specifically doing to help> with conversion... supplements, what you avoid,> lifestyle/eating> changes...... I'm asking you, instead of listing,> just to get you to> think about what you are consciously doing...Thanks, I appreciate the opportunity to be checked!I am taking selenium (the good kind) -- 400 mcg forawhile and now 300mcg (went down because from seleniumtest, my level has

greatly improved, plus medicalintuitive told me 300mcg now -- since they both agree...). Also, tons of other supplements -- all goodquality and in the amounts that different authorssuggest for hypo people, plus herbal supplements saidto help conversion, like ashwaganda ... plus adrenalsupport, a glandular, herbs, and hydrocortisone, seasalt ...Very wholesome (mostly organic) diet and balanced withplenty of protein with carbs, healthy fats -- eatingevery 2-3 hours. Also detox supplements (likechlorella, and glutathione injections -- from doctor)to clear out heavy metals and chemicals that caninterfere with the thyroid. Also avoiding foods I seemto be sensitive to like wheat, dairy, refined sugar.Avoiding harmful chemicals as much as possible (drinkfiltered spring water, use shower filter, fluoridefree toothpaste, never swim in chlorine pools, naturalnon-toxic body care products, make-up, and

cleaningsupplies). Hmmm, what else am I doing? Trying toreduce stress as much as possible -- but I am goingthrough some relationship difficulties which I'm sureare contributing ... plus I'll be moving in a month... but that feels good. I may be forgettingsomethings...> ...there is a little something that is being missed> and /or the dose is> still too low... maybe going over some stuff and> reviewing might bring> something to light....Yes, I appreciate this. I'm starting to think it isthe aldosterone problem. said that all of mynew-since-thyroid-treatment symptoms could be from lowaldosterone (after the ACTH stimulation test,aldosterone was my only adrenal hormone that went downinstead of up! They are supposed to go up!)... andsince I feel worse than before when my T3 level waseven lower -- it would seem like I would feel evenjust a little tiny bit better since my T3 level

hasgone up a bit -- but no, I feel worse ... but since mycortisol levels have shown to be ok -- it has been soconfusing all this time (this was the first time I hadmy aldosterone checked). I have to wait 2 weeks to getthe difinitive interpretation about my aldosterone andadrenals in general ...> The reason I say that is that I recently, in the> last two weeks, did> another trial on myself to reduce the number of> doses of thyroid that I> take in a day (without reducing the total taken per> day) and I still> can't do it... I was crashing before the next dosing> time... even falling> asleep while sitting in a chair and holding my> mouse.. and get this, I> was holding down the left mouse button on a close> icon on the screen and> held it that way for I have no idea how long, while> I slept. What woke me> was the need to go to the bathroom.>

> I tried that schedule, four doses per day, for four> days.... then went> back to a six dose per day schedule and I'm okay> again. Keep in mind that> the total amount per day was the same, the only> change was the amount I> took per dose and how many doses per day....Wow, yes, I understand. I have tried the multi-dosingand didn't feel a difference, but I should probablytry it again ... (although medical intuitive also toldme to take it once/day -- but I'm going to experimentmore -- I have to confirm everything she says ofcourse -- but so far she seems to be right on forme)...> Some of us are just really persnickety and it might> take some> investigation to find out what your body wants you> to do....Yes, apparently I am in the persnickety category : )Marlena> Topper () *who's still willing to deal with> multi-dosing if it

means> that I can feel this much better than I did for all> those years*> > On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 09:56:25 -0700 (PDT) Marlena> writes:> Hi Topper,> Yes, I completely understand. This is an obscure> test> and no one is familiar with it, so it's hard for you> to comment!> > All I can say is that it reflects how I feel more> than> the blood tests did that I took in June when I was> on> 2.5 grains. TSH was 0.011 and frees were both just> under the mid-range (and I still felt terrible). T4> didn't look higher (in its own range) than my T3 so> I> didn't think I was having a conversion problem, I> just> thought I needed a higher dosage!> > I need to find out the explanation of why my doctor> says this particular test measures how much hormone> the body is actually using -- how

much the tissues> are> actually getting affected by, regardless of how much> is available in the blood. Some people can't fully> use> what is available in the blood (for various reasons)> -- so for that reason, the free's seem the best out> of> all the blood tests but still not always conclusive,> IMO!> > Marlena ____________________________________________________Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

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