Re: PSYCH ASSESSMENTSwas doubtful yet ambivelant

January 21, 1980

> There is a syndrome you might be interested in. It is like the exact

> opposite of late talking. It's like verbal hyperlexia - - the kids can

> communicate with an extremely high degree of sophistication, but not tie

> their own shoes. For the life of me I cannot come up with the name. Does

> anyone know what I'm talking about?

No but that sure sounds like Dillon as a toddler ...

Sissi

January 21, 1980

> There is a syndrome you might be interested in. It is like the exact

> opposite of late talking. It's like verbal hyperlexia - - the kids can

> communicate with an extremely high degree of sophistication, but not tie

> their own shoes. For the life of me I cannot come up with the name. Does

> anyone know what I'm talking about?

No but that sure sounds like Dillon as a toddler ...

Sissi

January 21, 1980

> There is a syndrome you might be interested in. It is like the exact

> opposite of late talking. It's like verbal hyperlexia - - the kids can

> communicate with an extremely high degree of sophistication, but not tie

> their own shoes. For the life of me I cannot come up with the name. Does

> anyone know what I'm talking about?

No but that sure sounds like Dillon as a toddler ...

Sissi

January 21, 1980

> I think it is Syndrome I'm thinking of:

>

> http://nasw.org/finn/ws.html

Oh that's definitely not Dillon. my managing editor's daughter has this.

They all tend to look alike (like elves) and many, like Deb's kid, have a

serious heart disease.

But the speech thing -- this kid talks nonstop and she can talk about

anything--- I mean anything.

Sissi

January 21, 2003

i don't really have any thing to offer on your post jacquie just a shared

experience i guess. we just had an assessment done for sebastian.. mr.

totally-abnormal- supposedly-normal-boy. we weren't really thrilled with our

results either. we paid $600 for our assessment and he did the WISCIII, WIAT,

Denman Neuropsychology Memory Scale and the Child Behaviour Checklist. a little

back ground on seb - in a nut shell he is the smartest little dumb kid you have

ever met. his verbal abilities totally defy his academic achievements. he

blows adults away with his wealth of knowledge, logic and conversational

ability. meanwhile, he can't tell you the twelve months in the year or what 2

times 7 is. he is eleven years old. he can discuss accurately and passionately

the war on iraq, the possibility of life on europa, the repition of themes in

shakespeare's plays, the effects of globalization on the third world. sometimes

he is unable to tell you his last name or date of birth. he struggles in

schools and gets Cs and Ds for his hours of effort at really simple tasks.

something is not right here!!

verbal aptitude he scored 96th percentile. non verbal aptitude he scored 28th

percentile. okay now what do we do with this information? in academic

achievement (WIAT) sebastian scored at grade 6 (which he is) in everything

except written expression - grade 3 and math reasoning - GRADE 12!! wtf??? he

got a D- in math on his xmas report card. the docs conclusions " Sebastian is a

boy with a superior level of language skills that coexist with average or below

average abilities in visual memory, non verbal problem solving, fine motor

coordination and possibly attention. He presented as a remarkably articulate

child who expressed himself in unusually mature terms about issues that were far

from those typically offered for discussion by a boy his age. While there is no

doubt that his verbal development is exceptionally strong, there is more

uncertainty about his apparent weaknesses. Thus, I am reluctant to describe

Sebastian as having a learning disability though do think it is probable that

his uneven aptitude pattern has made some aspects of school more difficult for

him than most. "

alrighty then! that pretty much confirms what we already knew. i wasn't

neccessarily looking for a label just some insight into his strengths and

weaknesses and his learning style. i was hoping for strategies to help him

learn more effectively. any thoughts anyone?? for anyone who knows these tests

and can decipher them i have more number and percentiles.

michelle mg

January 21, 2003

There is a syndrome you might be interested in. It is like the exact

opposite of late talking. It's like verbal hyperlexia - - the kids can

communicate with an extremely high degree of sophistication, but not tie

their own shoes. For the life of me I cannot come up with the name. Does

anyone know what I'm talking about?

Re: PSYCH ASSESSMENTSwas doubtful yet ambivelant

> i don't really have any thing to offer on your post jacquie just a shared

experience i guess. we just had an assessment done for sebastian.. mr.

totally-abnormal- supposedly-normal-boy. we weren't really thrilled with

our results either. we paid $600 for our assessment and he did the WISCIII,

WIAT, Denman Neuropsychology Memory Scale and the Child Behaviour Checklist.

a little back ground on seb - in a nut shell he is the smartest little dumb

kid you have ever met. his verbal abilities totally defy his academic

achievements. he blows adults away with his wealth of knowledge, logic and

conversational ability. meanwhile, he can't tell you the twelve months in

the year or what 2 times 7 is. he is eleven years old. he can discuss

accurately and passionately the war on iraq, the possibility of life on

europa, the repition of themes in shakespeare's plays, the effects of

globalization on the third world. sometimes he is unable to tell you his

last name or date of birth. he struggles in schools and gets Cs and Ds for

his hours of effort at really simple tasks. something is not right here!!

> verbal aptitude he scored 96th percentile. non verbal aptitude he scored

28th percentile. okay now what do we do with this information? in academic

achievement (WIAT) sebastian scored at grade 6 (which he is) in everything

except written expression - grade 3 and math reasoning - GRADE 12!! wtf???

he got a D- in math on his xmas report card. the docs conclusions

" Sebastian is a boy with a superior level of language skills that coexist

with average or below average abilities in visual memory, non verbal problem

solving, fine motor coordination and possibly attention. He presented as a

remarkably articulate child who expressed himself in unusually mature terms

about issues that were far from those typically offered for discussion by a

boy his age. While there is no doubt that his verbal development is

exceptionally strong, there is more uncertainty about his apparent

weaknesses. Thus, I am reluctant to describe Sebastian as having a learning

disability though do think it is probable that his uneven aptitude pattern

has made some aspects of school more difficult for him than most. "

> alrighty then! that pretty much confirms what we already knew. i wasn't

neccessarily looking for a label just some insight into his strengths and

weaknesses and his learning style. i was hoping for strategies to help him

learn more effectively. any thoughts anyone?? for anyone who knows these

tests and can decipher them i have more number and percentiles.

> michelle mg

>

January 21, 2003