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I've heard of many problems like that with Zocor or Lipitor, from many

people. Some have to switch to another drug, some have to stop taking it.

Sometimes cholesterol can be controlled enough just by diet. The problem

with advanced kidney patients is that the cholesterol is often very

resistant to that, and, you don't wan't to limit the diet much more than it

is already. Besides, there already isn't much animal fat in a renal diet, so

I'm not sure how much more one could do with just diet.

I take Lipitor myself. Some mornings, I'm a little stiff in the muscles, as

if I had exercised heavily the day before, but it's hard to know what does

what. In my case, it could be any of the medications I have to take, it

could be something about dialysis, or it could be old age :)

So, I pretty much just have to put up with it, or else take my chances with

the cholesterol. As you know, the doctors are big on lowering bad

cholesterol these days.

By the way, sometimes, it just seems like everyone I know who is over 45 is

on one of these statin drugs for cholesterol. If we could only be 25 forever

:)

Connie, have you already tried a different drug?

Pierre

RE: Zocor

> Hi Rita, (Sorry this is long, you all know where the delete key is)

> I don't want to open a can of worms here but I hated Zocor. To be real

> honest, as far as muscle aches goes, I haven't felt like myself since I

was

> on Zocor. Interestingly enough, during the period of time that I was on

> Zocor, (and having difficulties) I was sitting in a Conference and was

kind

> of ease dropping on a conversation that was going on between two strangers

> next to me. We were all in the back row and bored with the speaker... :)

> The conversation revolved around the one woman who was desperately seeking

> answers because she was having extreme muscle pain, could hardly get

herself

> moving in the morning, felt like a truck had hit her etc. Well needless

to

> say this really peaked my interest, because I was feeling the exact same

> way. As you normally do when you're being nosy, (but don't want to be

> obvious) I leaned further over in my chair to listen. :) Also, I had just

> been to the Doctor and had a bone scan scheduled because I couldn't tell

if

> the pain was coming from my bones or muscles.

>

> To finally get to the point, this woman had been taking Zocor about 4

> months, (same as me) and was positive that she had some kind of cancer or

> something. When she said that she was considering asking for a bone scan

> from her Doctor, I about fell off my chair and had to intrude on their

> conversation. We compared notes and she couldn't believe that we had

not

> only the same symptoms, but had been taking Zocor a about the same length

of

> time. We exchanged e-mail addresses and she e-mailed me later to say

that

> she had been diagnosed with Fibromyalgia. My bone scan turned out fine.

> As a matter of fact, they said I had the bone density of a 36 year old.

> (That is my kind of luck, my bones look like I'm 36! If the rest of my

body

> only looked 36, I'd be delighted:)

>

> Don't get me wrong, I'm not pointing my finger at Zocor, Zocor has

> drastically reduced cholesterol in many patients, but lets just say it is

> oddly suspicious in my case. By the way, I continue to have muscle aches

> and tender points that are strangely similar to those who have the

> Fibromyalgia. I just haven't pursued it, because from the research I've

> done it is not considered a disease, but a syndrome of chronic pain. I

> don't want to add additional meds to my current regiment and so I'll

> continue to suffer through it.

>

> Connie

>

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I've heard of many problems like that with Zocor or Lipitor, from many

people. Some have to switch to another drug, some have to stop taking it.

Sometimes cholesterol can be controlled enough just by diet. The problem

with advanced kidney patients is that the cholesterol is often very

resistant to that, and, you don't wan't to limit the diet much more than it

is already. Besides, there already isn't much animal fat in a renal diet, so

I'm not sure how much more one could do with just diet.

I take Lipitor myself. Some mornings, I'm a little stiff in the muscles, as

if I had exercised heavily the day before, but it's hard to know what does

what. In my case, it could be any of the medications I have to take, it

could be something about dialysis, or it could be old age :)

So, I pretty much just have to put up with it, or else take my chances with

the cholesterol. As you know, the doctors are big on lowering bad

cholesterol these days.

By the way, sometimes, it just seems like everyone I know who is over 45 is

on one of these statin drugs for cholesterol. If we could only be 25 forever

:)

Connie, have you already tried a different drug?

Pierre

RE: Zocor

> Hi Rita, (Sorry this is long, you all know where the delete key is)

> I don't want to open a can of worms here but I hated Zocor. To be real

> honest, as far as muscle aches goes, I haven't felt like myself since I

was

> on Zocor. Interestingly enough, during the period of time that I was on

> Zocor, (and having difficulties) I was sitting in a Conference and was

kind

> of ease dropping on a conversation that was going on between two strangers

> next to me. We were all in the back row and bored with the speaker... :)

> The conversation revolved around the one woman who was desperately seeking

> answers because she was having extreme muscle pain, could hardly get

herself

> moving in the morning, felt like a truck had hit her etc. Well needless

to

> say this really peaked my interest, because I was feeling the exact same

> way. As you normally do when you're being nosy, (but don't want to be

> obvious) I leaned further over in my chair to listen. :) Also, I had just

> been to the Doctor and had a bone scan scheduled because I couldn't tell

if

> the pain was coming from my bones or muscles.

>

> To finally get to the point, this woman had been taking Zocor about 4

> months, (same as me) and was positive that she had some kind of cancer or

> something. When she said that she was considering asking for a bone scan

> from her Doctor, I about fell off my chair and had to intrude on their

> conversation. We compared notes and she couldn't believe that we had

not

> only the same symptoms, but had been taking Zocor a about the same length

of

> time. We exchanged e-mail addresses and she e-mailed me later to say

that

> she had been diagnosed with Fibromyalgia. My bone scan turned out fine.

> As a matter of fact, they said I had the bone density of a 36 year old.

> (That is my kind of luck, my bones look like I'm 36! If the rest of my

body

> only looked 36, I'd be delighted:)

>

> Don't get me wrong, I'm not pointing my finger at Zocor, Zocor has

> drastically reduced cholesterol in many patients, but lets just say it is

> oddly suspicious in my case. By the way, I continue to have muscle aches

> and tender points that are strangely similar to those who have the

> Fibromyalgia. I just haven't pursued it, because from the research I've

> done it is not considered a disease, but a syndrome of chronic pain. I

> don't want to add additional meds to my current regiment and so I'll

> continue to suffer through it.

>

> Connie

>

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I've heard of many problems like that with Zocor or Lipitor, from many

people. Some have to switch to another drug, some have to stop taking it.

Sometimes cholesterol can be controlled enough just by diet. The problem

with advanced kidney patients is that the cholesterol is often very

resistant to that, and, you don't wan't to limit the diet much more than it

is already. Besides, there already isn't much animal fat in a renal diet, so

I'm not sure how much more one could do with just diet.

I take Lipitor myself. Some mornings, I'm a little stiff in the muscles, as

if I had exercised heavily the day before, but it's hard to know what does

what. In my case, it could be any of the medications I have to take, it

could be something about dialysis, or it could be old age :)

So, I pretty much just have to put up with it, or else take my chances with

the cholesterol. As you know, the doctors are big on lowering bad

cholesterol these days.

By the way, sometimes, it just seems like everyone I know who is over 45 is

on one of these statin drugs for cholesterol. If we could only be 25 forever

:)

Connie, have you already tried a different drug?

Pierre

RE: Zocor

> Hi Rita, (Sorry this is long, you all know where the delete key is)

> I don't want to open a can of worms here but I hated Zocor. To be real

> honest, as far as muscle aches goes, I haven't felt like myself since I

was

> on Zocor. Interestingly enough, during the period of time that I was on

> Zocor, (and having difficulties) I was sitting in a Conference and was

kind

> of ease dropping on a conversation that was going on between two strangers

> next to me. We were all in the back row and bored with the speaker... :)

> The conversation revolved around the one woman who was desperately seeking

> answers because she was having extreme muscle pain, could hardly get

herself

> moving in the morning, felt like a truck had hit her etc. Well needless

to

> say this really peaked my interest, because I was feeling the exact same

> way. As you normally do when you're being nosy, (but don't want to be

> obvious) I leaned further over in my chair to listen. :) Also, I had just

> been to the Doctor and had a bone scan scheduled because I couldn't tell

if

> the pain was coming from my bones or muscles.

>

> To finally get to the point, this woman had been taking Zocor about 4

> months, (same as me) and was positive that she had some kind of cancer or

> something. When she said that she was considering asking for a bone scan

> from her Doctor, I about fell off my chair and had to intrude on their

> conversation. We compared notes and she couldn't believe that we had

not

> only the same symptoms, but had been taking Zocor a about the same length

of

> time. We exchanged e-mail addresses and she e-mailed me later to say

that

> she had been diagnosed with Fibromyalgia. My bone scan turned out fine.

> As a matter of fact, they said I had the bone density of a 36 year old.

> (That is my kind of luck, my bones look like I'm 36! If the rest of my

body

> only looked 36, I'd be delighted:)

>

> Don't get me wrong, I'm not pointing my finger at Zocor, Zocor has

> drastically reduced cholesterol in many patients, but lets just say it is

> oddly suspicious in my case. By the way, I continue to have muscle aches

> and tender points that are strangely similar to those who have the

> Fibromyalgia. I just haven't pursued it, because from the research I've

> done it is not considered a disease, but a syndrome of chronic pain. I

> don't want to add additional meds to my current regiment and so I'll

> continue to suffer through it.

>

> Connie

>

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Hi guys, I just wanted to tell you you need to ask your doctor about

Crestor. My husband I both switched to that from Lipitor because of the

muscle aches and all. That was 2 months ago. We both are doing fine, have

no complaints, and the Crestor lowered my overall cholesterol by, like, 180

points in only 4 weeks. Check it ouit!!!

_____

From: Pierre L (groups)

Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 11:34 AM

To: iga-nephropathy

Subject: Re: Zocor

I've heard of many problems like that with Zocor or Lipitor, from many

people. Some have to switch to another drug, some have to stop taking it.

Sometimes cholesterol can be controlled enough just by diet. The problem

with advanced kidney patients is that the cholesterol is often very

resistant to that, and, you don't wan't to limit the diet much more than it

is already. Besides, there already isn't much animal fat in a renal diet, so

I'm not sure how much more one could do with just diet.

I take Lipitor myself. Some mornings, I'm a little stiff in the muscles, as

if I had exercised heavily the day before, but it's hard to know what does

what. In my case, it could be any of the medications I have to take, it

could be something about dialysis, or it could be old age :)

So, I pretty much just have to put up with it, or else take my chances with

the cholesterol. As you know, the doctors are big on lowering bad

cholesterol these days.

By the way, sometimes, it just seems like everyone I know who is over 45 is

on one of these statin drugs for cholesterol. If we could only be 25 forever

:)

Connie, have you already tried a different drug?

Pierre

RE: Zocor

> Hi Rita, (Sorry this is long, you all know where the delete key is)

> I don't want to open a can of worms here but I hated Zocor. To be real

> honest, as far as muscle aches goes, I haven't felt like myself since I

was

> on Zocor. Interestingly enough, during the period of time that I was on

> Zocor, (and having difficulties) I was sitting in a Conference and was

kind

> of ease dropping on a conversation that was going on between two strangers

> next to me. We were all in the back row and bored with the speaker... :)

> The conversation revolved around the one woman who was desperately seeking

> answers because she was having extreme muscle pain, could hardly get

herself

> moving in the morning, felt like a truck had hit her etc. Well needless

to

> say this really peaked my interest, because I was feeling the exact same

> way. As you normally do when you're being nosy, (but don't want to be

> obvious) I leaned further over in my chair to listen. :) Also, I had just

> been to the Doctor and had a bone scan scheduled because I couldn't tell

if

> the pain was coming from my bones or muscles.

>

> To finally get to the point, this woman had been taking Zocor about 4

> months, (same as me) and was positive that she had some kind of cancer or

> something. When she said that she was considering asking for a bone scan

> from her Doctor, I about fell off my chair and had to intrude on their

> conversation. We compared notes and she couldn't believe that we had

not

> only the same symptoms, but had been taking Zocor a about the same length

of

> time. We exchanged e-mail addresses and she e-mailed me later to say

that

> she had been diagnosed with Fibromyalgia. My bone scan turned out fine.

> As a matter of fact, they said I had the bone density of a 36 year old.

> (That is my kind of luck, my bones look like I'm 36! If the rest of my

body

> only looked 36, I'd be delighted:)

>

> Don't get me wrong, I'm not pointing my finger at Zocor, Zocor has

> drastically reduced cholesterol in many patients, but lets just say it is

> oddly suspicious in my case. By the way, I continue to have muscle aches

> and tender points that are strangely similar to those who have the

> Fibromyalgia. I just haven't pursued it, because from the research I've

> done it is not considered a disease, but a syndrome of chronic pain. I

> don't want to add additional meds to my current regiment and so I'll

> continue to suffer through it.

>

> Connie

>

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Hi guys, I just wanted to tell you you need to ask your doctor about

Crestor. My husband I both switched to that from Lipitor because of the

muscle aches and all. That was 2 months ago. We both are doing fine, have

no complaints, and the Crestor lowered my overall cholesterol by, like, 180

points in only 4 weeks. Check it ouit!!!

_____

From: Pierre L (groups)

Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 11:34 AM

To: iga-nephropathy

Subject: Re: Zocor

I've heard of many problems like that with Zocor or Lipitor, from many

people. Some have to switch to another drug, some have to stop taking it.

Sometimes cholesterol can be controlled enough just by diet. The problem

with advanced kidney patients is that the cholesterol is often very

resistant to that, and, you don't wan't to limit the diet much more than it

is already. Besides, there already isn't much animal fat in a renal diet, so

I'm not sure how much more one could do with just diet.

I take Lipitor myself. Some mornings, I'm a little stiff in the muscles, as

if I had exercised heavily the day before, but it's hard to know what does

what. In my case, it could be any of the medications I have to take, it

could be something about dialysis, or it could be old age :)

So, I pretty much just have to put up with it, or else take my chances with

the cholesterol. As you know, the doctors are big on lowering bad

cholesterol these days.

By the way, sometimes, it just seems like everyone I know who is over 45 is

on one of these statin drugs for cholesterol. If we could only be 25 forever

:)

Connie, have you already tried a different drug?

Pierre

RE: Zocor

> Hi Rita, (Sorry this is long, you all know where the delete key is)

> I don't want to open a can of worms here but I hated Zocor. To be real

> honest, as far as muscle aches goes, I haven't felt like myself since I

was

> on Zocor. Interestingly enough, during the period of time that I was on

> Zocor, (and having difficulties) I was sitting in a Conference and was

kind

> of ease dropping on a conversation that was going on between two strangers

> next to me. We were all in the back row and bored with the speaker... :)

> The conversation revolved around the one woman who was desperately seeking

> answers because she was having extreme muscle pain, could hardly get

herself

> moving in the morning, felt like a truck had hit her etc. Well needless

to

> say this really peaked my interest, because I was feeling the exact same

> way. As you normally do when you're being nosy, (but don't want to be

> obvious) I leaned further over in my chair to listen. :) Also, I had just

> been to the Doctor and had a bone scan scheduled because I couldn't tell

if

> the pain was coming from my bones or muscles.

>

> To finally get to the point, this woman had been taking Zocor about 4

> months, (same as me) and was positive that she had some kind of cancer or

> something. When she said that she was considering asking for a bone scan

> from her Doctor, I about fell off my chair and had to intrude on their

> conversation. We compared notes and she couldn't believe that we had

not

> only the same symptoms, but had been taking Zocor a about the same length

of

> time. We exchanged e-mail addresses and she e-mailed me later to say

that

> she had been diagnosed with Fibromyalgia. My bone scan turned out fine.

> As a matter of fact, they said I had the bone density of a 36 year old.

> (That is my kind of luck, my bones look like I'm 36! If the rest of my

body

> only looked 36, I'd be delighted:)

>

> Don't get me wrong, I'm not pointing my finger at Zocor, Zocor has

> drastically reduced cholesterol in many patients, but lets just say it is

> oddly suspicious in my case. By the way, I continue to have muscle aches

> and tender points that are strangely similar to those who have the

> Fibromyalgia. I just haven't pursued it, because from the research I've

> done it is not considered a disease, but a syndrome of chronic pain. I

> don't want to add additional meds to my current regiment and so I'll

> continue to suffer through it.

>

> Connie

>

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Hi guys, I just wanted to tell you you need to ask your doctor about

Crestor. My husband I both switched to that from Lipitor because of the

muscle aches and all. That was 2 months ago. We both are doing fine, have

no complaints, and the Crestor lowered my overall cholesterol by, like, 180

points in only 4 weeks. Check it ouit!!!

_____

From: Pierre L (groups)

Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 11:34 AM

To: iga-nephropathy

Subject: Re: Zocor

I've heard of many problems like that with Zocor or Lipitor, from many

people. Some have to switch to another drug, some have to stop taking it.

Sometimes cholesterol can be controlled enough just by diet. The problem

with advanced kidney patients is that the cholesterol is often very

resistant to that, and, you don't wan't to limit the diet much more than it

is already. Besides, there already isn't much animal fat in a renal diet, so

I'm not sure how much more one could do with just diet.

I take Lipitor myself. Some mornings, I'm a little stiff in the muscles, as

if I had exercised heavily the day before, but it's hard to know what does

what. In my case, it could be any of the medications I have to take, it

could be something about dialysis, or it could be old age :)

So, I pretty much just have to put up with it, or else take my chances with

the cholesterol. As you know, the doctors are big on lowering bad

cholesterol these days.

By the way, sometimes, it just seems like everyone I know who is over 45 is

on one of these statin drugs for cholesterol. If we could only be 25 forever

:)

Connie, have you already tried a different drug?

Pierre

RE: Zocor

> Hi Rita, (Sorry this is long, you all know where the delete key is)

> I don't want to open a can of worms here but I hated Zocor. To be real

> honest, as far as muscle aches goes, I haven't felt like myself since I

was

> on Zocor. Interestingly enough, during the period of time that I was on

> Zocor, (and having difficulties) I was sitting in a Conference and was

kind

> of ease dropping on a conversation that was going on between two strangers

> next to me. We were all in the back row and bored with the speaker... :)

> The conversation revolved around the one woman who was desperately seeking

> answers because she was having extreme muscle pain, could hardly get

herself

> moving in the morning, felt like a truck had hit her etc. Well needless

to

> say this really peaked my interest, because I was feeling the exact same

> way. As you normally do when you're being nosy, (but don't want to be

> obvious) I leaned further over in my chair to listen. :) Also, I had just

> been to the Doctor and had a bone scan scheduled because I couldn't tell

if

> the pain was coming from my bones or muscles.

>

> To finally get to the point, this woman had been taking Zocor about 4

> months, (same as me) and was positive that she had some kind of cancer or

> something. When she said that she was considering asking for a bone scan

> from her Doctor, I about fell off my chair and had to intrude on their

> conversation. We compared notes and she couldn't believe that we had

not

> only the same symptoms, but had been taking Zocor a about the same length

of

> time. We exchanged e-mail addresses and she e-mailed me later to say

that

> she had been diagnosed with Fibromyalgia. My bone scan turned out fine.

> As a matter of fact, they said I had the bone density of a 36 year old.

> (That is my kind of luck, my bones look like I'm 36! If the rest of my

body

> only looked 36, I'd be delighted:)

>

> Don't get me wrong, I'm not pointing my finger at Zocor, Zocor has

> drastically reduced cholesterol in many patients, but lets just say it is

> oddly suspicious in my case. By the way, I continue to have muscle aches

> and tender points that are strangely similar to those who have the

> Fibromyalgia. I just haven't pursued it, because from the research I've

> done it is not considered a disease, but a syndrome of chronic pain. I

> don't want to add additional meds to my current regiment and so I'll

> continue to suffer through it.

>

> Connie

>

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Thanks, I saw an advertisement for Crestor in TV. I may ask my Neph about

it and give cholesterol medication another try. To tell you the truth, I'm

kinda chicken though.

Connie

Re: Zocor

I've heard of many problems like that with Zocor or Lipitor, from many

people. Some have to switch to another drug, some have to stop taking it.

Sometimes cholesterol can be controlled enough just by diet. The problem

with advanced kidney patients is that the cholesterol is often very

resistant to that, and, you don't wan't to limit the diet much more than

it

is already. Besides, there already isn't much animal fat in a renal diet,

so

I'm not sure how much more one could do with just diet.

I take Lipitor myself. Some mornings, I'm a little stiff in the muscles,

as

if I had exercised heavily the day before, but it's hard to know what does

what. In my case, it could be any of the medications I have to take, it

could be something about dialysis, or it could be old age :)

So, I pretty much just have to put up with it, or else take my chances

with

the cholesterol. As you know, the doctors are big on lowering bad

cholesterol these days.

By the way, sometimes, it just seems like everyone I know who is over 45

is

on one of these statin drugs for cholesterol. If we could only be 25

forever

:)

Connie, have you already tried a different drug?

Pierre

RE: Zocor

> Hi Rita, (Sorry this is long, you all know where the delete key is)

> I don't want to open a can of worms here but I hated Zocor. To be real

> honest, as far as muscle aches goes, I haven't felt like myself since I

was

> on Zocor. Interestingly enough, during the period of time that I was on

> Zocor, (and having difficulties) I was sitting in a Conference and was

kind

> of ease dropping on a conversation that was going on between two

strangers

> next to me. We were all in the back row and bored with the speaker... :)

> The conversation revolved around the one woman who was desperately

seeking

> answers because she was having extreme muscle pain, could hardly get

herself

> moving in the morning, felt like a truck had hit her etc. Well needless

to

> say this really peaked my interest, because I was feeling the exact same

> way. As you normally do when you're being nosy, (but don't want to be

> obvious) I leaned further over in my chair to listen. :) Also, I had

just

> been to the Doctor and had a bone scan scheduled because I couldn't tell

if

> the pain was coming from my bones or muscles.

>

> To finally get to the point, this woman had been taking Zocor about 4

> months, (same as me) and was positive that she had some kind of cancer

or

> something. When she said that she was considering asking for a bone

scan

> from her Doctor, I about fell off my chair and had to intrude on their

> conversation. We compared notes and she couldn't believe that we had

not

> only the same symptoms, but had been taking Zocor a about the same

length

of

> time. We exchanged e-mail addresses and she e-mailed me later to say

that

> she had been diagnosed with Fibromyalgia. My bone scan turned out fine.

> As a matter of fact, they said I had the bone density of a 36 year old.

> (That is my kind of luck, my bones look like I'm 36! If the rest of my

body

> only looked 36, I'd be delighted:)

>

> Don't get me wrong, I'm not pointing my finger at Zocor, Zocor has

> drastically reduced cholesterol in many patients, but lets just say it

is

> oddly suspicious in my case. By the way, I continue to have muscle

aches

> and tender points that are strangely similar to those who have the

> Fibromyalgia. I just haven't pursued it, because from the research I've

> done it is not considered a disease, but a syndrome of chronic pain. I

> don't want to add additional meds to my current regiment and so I'll

> continue to suffer through it.

>

> Connie

>

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