RE: Rantings of an EMS educator

November 4, 2004

Dr. B, that is the best idea I have heard yet!!! I think we really should think

about this and maybe do just what you said. So how would we go about this now?

jane

--------- Re: Rantings of an EMS educator

In a message dated 11/3/2004 8:26:24 PM Central Standard Time,

bbledsoe@... writes:

The problem is sometimes deeper when the only two criteria an employer looks

for in a paramedic is the presence of a patch and a pulse.

Thank you, I know that you have been listening to this quote of mine for

years. I find it so much easier to train a newly graduated Paramedic in a

program designed for my service and knowing that when I let him/her out of

that 9 month program, he/she is finally ready to stand on their own two

feet, and only then, do they get to work alone.

Unfortunately, the problem becomes much more complicated when I send a

seasoned paramedic into the same program and have to DE-program him/her from

that company that hired him because he had a patch and a pulse.

Andy Foote

BEMS Manager

Lamar University-Orange Faculty Member

November 4, 2004

As a member of EMSAT, I would like to see it discussed in a meeting,

and can say that my dues will continue to be paid if there were

involment with this issue. I truly believe that the strength of our

profession comes through the education process and we must strengthen

it now to continue to move forward.

> et al,

>

> Perhaps this is something that EMSAT can take on. I'll bring this

to the Board's attention.

>

> Randell

> Re: Rantings of an EMS educator

>

> In a message dated 11/3/2004 8:26:24 PM Central Standard Time,

> bbledsoe@e... writes:

> The problem is sometimes deeper when the only two criteria an

employer looks

> for in a paramedic is the presence of a patch and a pulse.

> Thank you, I know that you have been listening to this quote of

mine for

> years. I find it so much easier to train a newly graduated

Paramedic in a

> program designed for my service and knowing that when I let

him/her out of

> that 9 month program, he/she is finally ready to stand on their

own two

> feet, and only then, do they get to work alone.

>

> Unfortunately, the problem becomes much more complicated when I

send a

> seasoned paramedic into the same program and have to DE-program

him/her from

> that company that hired him because he had a patch and a pulse.

>

> Andy Foote

> BEMS Manager

> Lamar University-Orange Faculty Member

>

November 4, 2004

As a member of EMSAT, I would like to see it discussed in a meeting,

and can say that my dues will continue to be paid if there were

involment with this issue. I truly believe that the strength of our

profession comes through the education process and we must strengthen

it now to continue to move forward.

> et al,

>

> Perhaps this is something that EMSAT can take on. I'll bring this

to the Board's attention.

>

> Randell

> Re: Rantings of an EMS educator

>

> In a message dated 11/3/2004 8:26:24 PM Central Standard Time,

> bbledsoe@e... writes:

> The problem is sometimes deeper when the only two criteria an

employer looks

> for in a paramedic is the presence of a patch and a pulse.

> Thank you, I know that you have been listening to this quote of

mine for

> years. I find it so much easier to train a newly graduated

Paramedic in a

> program designed for my service and knowing that when I let

him/her out of

> that 9 month program, he/she is finally ready to stand on their

own two

> feet, and only then, do they get to work alone.

>

> Unfortunately, the problem becomes much more complicated when I

send a

> seasoned paramedic into the same program and have to DE-program

him/her from

> that company that hired him because he had a patch and a pulse.

>

> Andy Foote

> BEMS Manager

> Lamar University-Orange Faculty Member

>

November 4, 2004

Your comments and request was forwarded on to the EMSAT board of directors.

Jane Hill

--------- Re: Rantings of an EMS educator

>

> In a message dated 11/3/2004 8:26:24 PM Central Standard Time,

> bbledsoe@e... writes:

> The problem is sometimes deeper when the only two criteria an

employer looks

> for in a paramedic is the presence of a patch and a pulse.

> Thank you, I know that you have been listening to this quote of

mine for

> years. I find it so much easier to train a newly graduated

Paramedic in a

> program designed for my service and knowing that when I let

him/her out of

> that 9 month program, he/she is finally ready to stand on their

own two

> feet, and only then, do they get to work alone.

>

> Unfortunately, the problem becomes much more complicated when I

send a

> seasoned paramedic into the same program and have to DE-program

him/her from

> that company that hired him because he had a patch and a pulse.

>

> Andy Foote

> BEMS Manager

> Lamar University-Orange Faculty Member

>

November 4, 2004

Your comments and request was forwarded on to the EMSAT board of directors.

Jane Hill

--------- Re: Rantings of an EMS educator

>

> In a message dated 11/3/2004 8:26:24 PM Central Standard Time,

> bbledsoe@e... writes:

> The problem is sometimes deeper when the only two criteria an

employer looks

> for in a paramedic is the presence of a patch and a pulse.

> Thank you, I know that you have been listening to this quote of

mine for

> years. I find it so much easier to train a newly graduated

Paramedic in a

> program designed for my service and knowing that when I let

him/her out of

> that 9 month program, he/she is finally ready to stand on their

own two

> feet, and only then, do they get to work alone.

>

> Unfortunately, the problem becomes much more complicated when I

send a

> seasoned paramedic into the same program and have to DE-program

him/her from

> that company that hired him because he had a patch and a pulse.

>

> Andy Foote

> BEMS Manager

> Lamar University-Orange Faculty Member

>

November 4, 2004

Dr. Bledsoe (I call him that when he has done something particularly

brilliant) proposes something that I believe we all ought to jump on like a herd

of

rabbits on a head of fresh lettuce.

Now, how would we go about setting up a meeting between the " hospital

associations " and the " physician associations " and the legislators?

It seems to me that we'll need a key legislator, a key player in the hospital

associations, and key players in the physicians groups to agree to meet

with us and to carry the message back to their groups and get this set up.

EMSAT can probably, through its legislative liason, Frazier, identify a

state representative and a state senator who would play ball, but we'll need a

powerful member of the hospital group and a powerful member of the TMA and

also of ACEP to drive the concept with those groups.

I will say tentatively as vice president and a board member of EMSAT, that I

expect that EMSAT will sign onto this. However, I do not speak for the Board

and EMSAT's participation will be predicated upon the Board's consent and

approval.

Who in the hospital association will carry the ball for this? Who in TMA

and ACEP?

If there's anybody listening who can help with this initiative, then please

stand up and sign on to this initiative.

GG

>

> I remember a state (not sure which one as I have been in 41 of them over the

> last 3 years), but one met with legistlators and hospital associations and

> physician associations and cleared the obstacles for paramedics to obtain

> in-hospital intubations (and other proecdures). The system worked well. The

> meetings put everything on the same page, the legislature passed a law that

> bypassed nursing laws that preveneted EMS students from doing skills

> in-hospital (the nurse association was a major impediment to EMS education),

> and the legislature provided some liability immunity for the instructing

> anesthesiologists. When the issue of civil liberties was raised

> (anesthesiologists having immunity upset the trial lawyers), the legislature

> determined that it was in the greater public interest to have competent and

> well-trained paramedics and that outweighed whatever civil remedies were

> lost by granting the anesthesiolgists some immunity. Why can't TCEP, EMSAT,

> the Texas EMS Instructors, TMA, TOMA, and THA meet and get this ironed out

> before our next legislature. I gurantee our largely rural legislature would

> buy it if properly presented.

>

> BEB

>

> E. Bledsoe, DO, FACEP

> Midlothian, TX

>

> Re: Rantings of an EMS educator

>

> In a message dated 11/3/2004 8:26:24 PM Central Standard Time,

> bbledsoe@... writes:

> The problem is sometimes deeper when the only two criteria an employer looks

> for in a paramedic is the presence of a patch and a pulse.

> Thank you, I know that you have been listening to this quote of mine for

> years. I find it so much easier to train a newly graduated Paramedic in a

> program designed for my service and knowing that when I let him/her out of

> that 9 month program, he/she is finally ready to stand on their own two

> feet, and only then, do they get to work alone.

>

> Unfortunately, the problem becomes much more complicated when I send a

> seasoned paramedic into the same program and have to DE-program him/her from

> that company that hired him because he had a patch and a pulse.

>

> Andy Foote

> BEMS Manager

> Lamar University-Orange Faculty Member

>

November 4, 2004