Am I crazy or alone in my situation?

[Guest guest]

Am I crazy or alone in my situation?

I have the symptoms of mercury poisoning and a hair test that

confirms deranged mineral transport.

Having said that, proper chelation is the way out but this is hard on

my body.

Where I go crazy is that my body doesn't react in any way like other

people's body even mercury toxic peoples.

I have tried probably over 200 different supplements from the most

basic vitamin C and B and so on BUT I have found NONE that work like

they are supposed to. Besides those that closly work according to

theory, the side effects are so bizzare and unseen in others that

this is scary. I can't even count or mention the side effects I get

even from the most basic supplements.

My body over reacts to everything. I can't control anything.

Everything is a battle. Nothing is going smoothly according to plan.

My next plan is to do proper chelation with ALA until I die in my bed

or finally get better.

What's wrong with me.

ph

[Guest guest]

Hi ph, you are not alone. You are echoing the pain of many

people caught in a trap of bizzare, erratic and inexplicable symptoms

from this toxicity (and perhaps other things contributing at the

sametime). You are not crazy, you are very sane, but you are

suffering a hell of a lot and anything you try and take, your body

ends up going into a tail spin over it.

I have had the same thing and so have others. I can end up taking

stuff, think I'm ok, and things go wrong and then I don't know if

it's the supplements or the general condition itself or both. I

stop, try again, or I try something else and so it goes on.

The very first thing I would do if I was you? Forget the supplements

for now. Concentrate totally on diet and make it as simple and plain

as you can, totally avoiding sugar in all forms (not just the typical

white sugar, but also fruits and milk, and honey, and potatoes which

are high in starch natural sugars), eliminate gluten grains from your

diet (wheat, oats, barley, rye), eliminate yeast in all forms, plus

things like vinegar, cheese etc. I know it might sound drastic, no

more cookies, no more adding sugar to cereal or in hot drinks, but it

can be essential for most of us.

Concentrate on eating vegetables, eggs, meats, raw nuts (brazil and

almonds), possibly plain acidophilus yoghurt (organic if you can),

drink water and/or herbal teas. Having good fats like butter, extra

virgin olive oils, organic coconut oil etc. You maybe able to handle

some limited grains (non gluten), but keep them low.

If you have candida overgrowth (which most of us mercury toxic people

do), your gut will likely be a mess, and this will also be

overloading your liver and anything you try and take, will not only

NOT be absorbed properly, but could become an extra strain right now

instead of being beneficial and your liver may not be able to cope

with anything at the moment.

I would fix up your gut on this diet, so your liver is able to work

easier and detox a bit better. IF you're doing this, sorry for going

on about it, but if you're not? You may find this invaluable.

Be warned, if you do decide to embark on this? You may get what is

called a " die off " effect. Which is when the candida basically

starts to starve to death because what it needs to feed on, is not

longer being provided as needed. So it will start to die, you may

get cravings, tiredness, some headaches and feeling weird/drunk for a

time as this happens. It can take a few days for it to start up, or

a few weeks. Once it starts, it can take a few days to subside or a

few weeks. But this is probably one of the best things you can do

for yourself. STick with it and do not give up, do not cheat, hold

on and let your body disgard the yeast and excess toxins.

It's not a cure for mercury poisoning, but it is a great help for

many people and allows their system to be more efficient at coping

with mercury, as well detoxing easier. You will also detox other

toxins on this diet, so that will take some load of also.

I would do this before taking anything, supplements or chelation.

Certainly, I would do it regardless, whether you want to continue to

try supplements or get onto chelation, I would seriously consider

this diet.

>

> My body over reacts to everything. I can't control anything.

> Everything is a battle. Nothing is going smoothly according to plan.

>

> My next plan is to do proper chelation with ALA until I die in my

bed

> or finally get better.

>

> What's wrong with me.

>

> ph

>

[Guest guest]

ph

You are not crazy. You are not alone either.

I remember once when you posted test results on autism mercury you

bilirubin was high. Did you or your doctor ever figure out why that was?

In autism mercury parents often report that their kids don't tolerate

supplements at first, and some can be introduced with chelation.

Have you ever tried fresh vegetable juices. Our juicer has to be the

best investment I ever made. I juice mostly celery, with smaller

quantities of carrot, parsley, apple, ginger, sometimes spinach. The

apple and ginger are what makes it taste good. That way the nutrients

come in the whole package - much better than capsules. Then, you

still need a source of omega 3 - maybe eat small (low mercury) fatty

fish everyday if you can't tolerate cod liver oil and flax oil.

Magnesium you can get with epsom salt baths and MgSO4 or Mg Cl creams.

For protein you could take meat and pretreat it with bromelain BEFORE

cooking. That way the enzyme breaks the protein down, but is killed

during cooking so doesn't break your gut down. Just some ideas.

Are you still taking cortef? Going off cortef quickly could give a

person a hopeless feeling - or much worse. Please be careful and

please ensure that your doctor does his job responsibly and isn't

allowed to cut you off.

Have you investigated whether or not you need thyroid hormone (from

symptoms and body temperature)?

It would probably be worthwhile to look at Andy's " Pick the right diet

for your kid " in autism mercury files. Diet can give HUGE symptoms

relief, but it's a trick to figure out what is best for each

individual (and Andy has summarized the tricks).

If you start to chelate with ALA again... please go slow.

Take Care

>

> Am I crazy or alone in my situation?

>

> I have the symptoms of mercury poisoning and a hair test that

> confirms deranged mineral transport.

>

> Having said that, proper chelation is the way out but this is hard on

> my body.

>

> Where I go crazy is that my body doesn't react in any way like other

> people's body even mercury toxic peoples.

>

> I have tried probably over 200 different supplements from the most

> basic vitamin C and B and so on BUT I have found NONE that work like

> they are supposed to. Besides those that closly work according to

> theory, the side effects are so bizzare and unseen in others that

> this is scary. I can't even count or mention the side effects I get

> even from the most basic supplements.

>

> My body over reacts to everything. I can't control anything.

> Everything is a battle. Nothing is going smoothly according to plan.

>

> My next plan is to do proper chelation with ALA until I die in my bed

> or finally get better.

>

> What's wrong with me.

>

> ph

>

[Guest guest]

ph

You are not crazy. You are not alone either.

I remember once when you posted test results on autism mercury you

bilirubin was high. Did you or your doctor ever figure out why that was?

In autism mercury parents often report that their kids don't tolerate

supplements at first, and some can be introduced with chelation.

Have you ever tried fresh vegetable juices. Our juicer has to be the

best investment I ever made. I juice mostly celery, with smaller

quantities of carrot, parsley, apple, ginger, sometimes spinach. The

apple and ginger are what makes it taste good. That way the nutrients

come in the whole package - much better than capsules. Then, you

still need a source of omega 3 - maybe eat small (low mercury) fatty

fish everyday if you can't tolerate cod liver oil and flax oil.

Magnesium you can get with epsom salt baths and MgSO4 or Mg Cl creams.

For protein you could take meat and pretreat it with bromelain BEFORE

cooking. That way the enzyme breaks the protein down, but is killed

during cooking so doesn't break your gut down. Just some ideas.

Are you still taking cortef? Going off cortef quickly could give a

person a hopeless feeling - or much worse. Please be careful and

please ensure that your doctor does his job responsibly and isn't

allowed to cut you off.

Have you investigated whether or not you need thyroid hormone (from

symptoms and body temperature)?

It would probably be worthwhile to look at Andy's " Pick the right diet

for your kid " in autism mercury files. Diet can give HUGE symptoms

relief, but it's a trick to figure out what is best for each

individual (and Andy has summarized the tricks).

If you start to chelate with ALA again... please go slow.

Take Care

>

> Am I crazy or alone in my situation?

>

> I have the symptoms of mercury poisoning and a hair test that

> confirms deranged mineral transport.

>

> Having said that, proper chelation is the way out but this is hard on

> my body.

>

> Where I go crazy is that my body doesn't react in any way like other

> people's body even mercury toxic peoples.

>

> I have tried probably over 200 different supplements from the most

> basic vitamin C and B and so on BUT I have found NONE that work like

> they are supposed to. Besides those that closly work according to

> theory, the side effects are so bizzare and unseen in others that

> this is scary. I can't even count or mention the side effects I get

> even from the most basic supplements.

>

> My body over reacts to everything. I can't control anything.

> Everything is a battle. Nothing is going smoothly according to plan.

>

> My next plan is to do proper chelation with ALA until I die in my bed

> or finally get better.

>

> What's wrong with me.

>

> ph

>

[Guest guest]

High serum bilirubin with otherwise normal liver enzymes is a condition

called Gilberts Syndrome. I have it, and I have read that a lot of

people with chronic fatigue have it. It is a sluggishness of the Phase

2 pathway of the liver, specifically the glucoronidation process, which

breaks down bilirubin and gets rid of it. People with Gilberts tend to

have yellow skin, possibly yellow eyes, and liver associated symptoms -

IBS, nausea, anxiety. Gilberts is a genetic disorder, and the doctors

claim it is a benign, standalone condition with no impact. It is of

course hugely significant because it means that Gilberts people don't

dtoxify properly, which is a problem with metal toxicity. Gilberts can

also be acquired from heavy metal poisoning, as the heavy metals cause

an imbalance in the phase one and phase two liver pathways. I am the

only one in my family to have Gilberts, and (had) a mouthful of

fillings. Go figure.

One other thing - Gilberts can be a marker for hypothyroidism. Thyroid

hormone also gets processed in this particular pathway, and if it is

not operating properly, the conversion of T4 to T3 doesn't happen

properly.

There is loads more info about Gilberts on this website -

http://p075.ezboard.com/bgilbertsweb

Nicola

-- In frequent-dose-chelation , " lindajaytee "

wrote:

>

>

> ph

>

> You are not crazy. You are not alone either.

>

> I remember once when you posted test results on autism mercury you

> bilirubin was high. Did you or your doctor ever figure out why that

was?

>

>

[Guest guest]

High serum bilirubin with otherwise normal liver enzymes is a condition

called Gilberts Syndrome. I have it, and I have read that a lot of

people with chronic fatigue have it. It is a sluggishness of the Phase

2 pathway of the liver, specifically the glucoronidation process, which

breaks down bilirubin and gets rid of it. People with Gilberts tend to

have yellow skin, possibly yellow eyes, and liver associated symptoms -

IBS, nausea, anxiety. Gilberts is a genetic disorder, and the doctors

claim it is a benign, standalone condition with no impact. It is of

course hugely significant because it means that Gilberts people don't

dtoxify properly, which is a problem with metal toxicity. Gilberts can

also be acquired from heavy metal poisoning, as the heavy metals cause

an imbalance in the phase one and phase two liver pathways. I am the

only one in my family to have Gilberts, and (had) a mouthful of

fillings. Go figure.

One other thing - Gilberts can be a marker for hypothyroidism. Thyroid

hormone also gets processed in this particular pathway, and if it is

not operating properly, the conversion of T4 to T3 doesn't happen

properly.

There is loads more info about Gilberts on this website -

http://p075.ezboard.com/bgilbertsweb

Nicola

-- In frequent-dose-chelation , " lindajaytee "

wrote:

>

>

> ph

>

> You are not crazy. You are not alone either.

>

> I remember once when you posted test results on autism mercury you

> bilirubin was high. Did you or your doctor ever figure out why that

was?

>

>

[Guest guest]

ph

The best thing for bringing down bilirubin in my case has been taking

Armour. Of course the liver-friendly diet, milk thistle and Vitamin

C, no alcohol, processed food, high carbs etc etc all helps, but my

eyes get whiter as my Armour dose gets higher.

A friend of mine has been told she can expect her bilirubin to drop

right down once she is optimized on thyroid meds. Are you taking

thyroid / adrenal support?

Nicola

> >

> > High serum bilirubin with otherwise normal liver enzymes is a

> condition

> > called Gilberts Syndrome. I have it, and I have read that a lot

of

> > people with chronic fatigue have it. It is a sluggishness of the

> Phase

> > 2 pathway of the liver, specifically the glucoronidation process,

> which

> > breaks down bilirubin and gets rid of it. People with Gilberts

> tend to

> > have yellow skin, possibly yellow eyes, and liver associated

> symptoms -

> > IBS, nausea, anxiety. Gilberts is a genetic disorder, and the

> doctors

> > claim it is a benign, standalone condition with no impact. It is

> of

> > course hugely significant because it means that Gilberts people

> don't

> > dtoxify properly, which is a problem with metal toxicity.

Gilberts

> can

> > also be acquired from heavy metal poisoning, as the heavy metals

> cause

> > an imbalance in the phase one and phase two liver pathways. I am

> the

> > only one in my family to have Gilberts, and (had) a mouthful of

> > fillings. Go figure.

> >

> > One other thing - Gilberts can be a marker for hypothyroidism.

> Thyroid

> > hormone also gets processed in this particular pathway, and if it

> is

> > not operating properly, the conversion of T4 to T3 doesn't happen

> > properly.

> >

> > There is loads more info about Gilberts on this website -

> >

> > http://p075.ezboard.com/bgilbertsweb

> >

> > Nicola

> >

>

[Guest guest]

ph

The best thing for bringing down bilirubin in my case has been taking

Armour. Of course the liver-friendly diet, milk thistle and Vitamin

C, no alcohol, processed food, high carbs etc etc all helps, but my

eyes get whiter as my Armour dose gets higher.

A friend of mine has been told she can expect her bilirubin to drop

right down once she is optimized on thyroid meds. Are you taking

thyroid / adrenal support?

Nicola

> >

> > High serum bilirubin with otherwise normal liver enzymes is a

> condition

> > called Gilberts Syndrome. I have it, and I have read that a lot

of

> > people with chronic fatigue have it. It is a sluggishness of the

> Phase

> > 2 pathway of the liver, specifically the glucoronidation process,

> which

> > breaks down bilirubin and gets rid of it. People with Gilberts

> tend to

> > have yellow skin, possibly yellow eyes, and liver associated

> symptoms -

> > IBS, nausea, anxiety. Gilberts is a genetic disorder, and the

> doctors

> > claim it is a benign, standalone condition with no impact. It is

> of

> > course hugely significant because it means that Gilberts people

> don't

> > dtoxify properly, which is a problem with metal toxicity.

Gilberts

> can

> > also be acquired from heavy metal poisoning, as the heavy metals

> cause

> > an imbalance in the phase one and phase two liver pathways. I am

> the

> > only one in my family to have Gilberts, and (had) a mouthful of

> > fillings. Go figure.

> >

> > One other thing - Gilberts can be a marker for hypothyroidism.

> Thyroid

> > hormone also gets processed in this particular pathway, and if it

> is

> > not operating properly, the conversion of T4 to T3 doesn't happen

> > properly.

> >

> > There is loads more info about Gilberts on this website -

> >

> > http://p075.ezboard.com/bgilbertsweb

> >

> > Nicola

> >

>

[Guest guest]

ph

The best thing for bringing down bilirubin in my case has been taking

Armour. Of course the liver-friendly diet, milk thistle and Vitamin

C, no alcohol, processed food, high carbs etc etc all helps, but my

eyes get whiter as my Armour dose gets higher.

A friend of mine has been told she can expect her bilirubin to drop

right down once she is optimized on thyroid meds. Are you taking

thyroid / adrenal support?

Nicola

> >

> > High serum bilirubin with otherwise normal liver enzymes is a

> condition

> > called Gilberts Syndrome. I have it, and I have read that a lot

of

> > people with chronic fatigue have it. It is a sluggishness of the

> Phase

> > 2 pathway of the liver, specifically the glucoronidation process,

> which

> > breaks down bilirubin and gets rid of it. People with Gilberts

> tend to

> > have yellow skin, possibly yellow eyes, and liver associated

> symptoms -

> > IBS, nausea, anxiety. Gilberts is a genetic disorder, and the

> doctors

> > claim it is a benign, standalone condition with no impact. It is

> of

> > course hugely significant because it means that Gilberts people

> don't

> > dtoxify properly, which is a problem with metal toxicity.

Gilberts

> can

> > also be acquired from heavy metal poisoning, as the heavy metals

> cause

> > an imbalance in the phase one and phase two liver pathways. I am

> the

> > only one in my family to have Gilberts, and (had) a mouthful of

> > fillings. Go figure.

> >

> > One other thing - Gilberts can be a marker for hypothyroidism.

> Thyroid

> > hormone also gets processed in this particular pathway, and if it

> is

> > not operating properly, the conversion of T4 to T3 doesn't happen

> > properly.

> >

> > There is loads more info about Gilberts on this website -

> >

> > http://p075.ezboard.com/bgilbertsweb

> >

> > Nicola

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ph:

I haven't been on this board for a long time. Your post was so close to my own

experience

that I wanted to tell you that you that I was unable to consume much at all ten

years ago.

Istill have quite a bit of sensitivities but I've improved and you can improve

also.

I had to give up on supplements 10 years ago, but I finally am able to take a

few recently.

I can also eat more variety of foods now.

Andy posted on this board a couple of years ago about how effective sweat

therapy is for

heavy metal detox. It is what I had to embrace because I was oversensitive to

anything I

took internally.

There's much more than sweating and you can find the diet and hygenic care for

yourself

that is tolerable as you detox.

Continue to learn about how to get the mercury out of your body and how to eat

and take

care of yourself.

Be patient, positive and keep at it.

Best thoughts to you,

Gia

[Guest guest]

Hi ph, sorry the candida diet etc hasn't done much if anything

foryou. I am experiencing this also nowadays, though it used once

help me dramatically. Pity I cannot experience that anymore, though

for some, obviously it does.

If you no longer have amalgams, you'd be wise to get onto chelation

if you can handle it and start reducing the mercury. I think mercury

is responsible for many things that we can attribute to other

problems. IT disturbs almost anything in the human mind and body.

Nothing would surprise me that what you've been " diagnosed " with is

actually an underlining mercury problem.

I know we can't blame mercury for all ills, but if we can't find any

way out of them? It's probably a good idea to start looking at

mercury and seeing if chelation helps, especially if nothing else has.

Yes it is a nightmare, I have never gone through so much in my life

and I can't seem to get out of it, I sure hope you have better luck

when you start chelating.

>

> My Dr. says I have Gilbert's Syndrome and of course he says that it

> causes no impact on my life.

>

> I wonder if a succesful mercury detox would bring my bilirubin back

> to normal. (Now i'm 4 times the maximum allowed bilirubin in blood)

>

> As far as diet is concerned I tried for years the candida diet and

> others like that. No result what so ever ecxept frustration!

>

> This is a nightmare.

>

> ph

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> ph

>

> The best thing for bringing down bilirubin in my case has been taking

> Armour.

That's interesting, Nicola. Do you understand why?

> Of course the liver-friendly diet,

What other things are associated with a liver-friendly diet?

J

milk thistle and Vitamin

> C, no alcohol, processed food, high carbs etc etc all helps, but my

> eyes get whiter as my Armour dose gets higher.

>

> A friend of mine has been told she can expect her bilirubin to drop

> right down once she is optimized on thyroid meds. Are you taking

> thyroid / adrenal support?

>

> Nicola

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> ph

>

> The best thing for bringing down bilirubin in my case has been taking

> Armour.

That's interesting, Nicola. Do you understand why?

> Of course the liver-friendly diet,

What other things are associated with a liver-friendly diet?

J

milk thistle and Vitamin

> C, no alcohol, processed food, high carbs etc etc all helps, but my

> eyes get whiter as my Armour dose gets higher.

>

> A friend of mine has been told she can expect her bilirubin to drop

> right down once she is optimized on thyroid meds. Are you taking

> thyroid / adrenal support?

>

> Nicola

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> ph

>

> The best thing for bringing down bilirubin in my case has been taking

> Armour.

That's interesting, Nicola. Do you understand why?

> Of course the liver-friendly diet,

What other things are associated with a liver-friendly diet?

J

milk thistle and Vitamin

> C, no alcohol, processed food, high carbs etc etc all helps, but my

> eyes get whiter as my Armour dose gets higher.

>

> A friend of mine has been told she can expect her bilirubin to drop

> right down once she is optimized on thyroid meds. Are you taking

> thyroid / adrenal support?

>

> Nicola

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ph,

No, you're not crazy or alone. This is all very hard to deal with, and when

things don't go right, it's very easy to get discouraged. I go through waves of

that and get depressed about this whole thing, and just wish I was all better.

I get sick and tired of being sick and tired. And I get tired of people not

understanding and having no idea of how sick I really am, since I probably look

pretty normal to them.

Have you had any tests done for absorption or digestion problems? Maybe you're

not absorbing any of the supps you've tried, so you don't get the normal

reaction/benefits. Just a thought. And I believe on the A-M site, they say

sometimes you just have to push through some rounds of chelation to get to a

point where you can tolerate supps. So if you are tolerating chelation, I would

go ahead with that, but slowly and carefully. I always feel better on a round,

so chelation is something that I am very committed to, when I'm not having other

problems.

Good luck and hang in there!

jackie t.

Am I crazy or alone in my situation?

Am I crazy or alone in my situation?

I have the symptoms of mercury poisoning and a hair test that

confirms deranged mineral transport.

Having said that, proper chelation is the way out but this is hard on

my body.

Where I go crazy is that my body doesn't react in any way like other

people's body even mercury toxic peoples.

I have tried probably over 200 different supplements from the most

basic vitamin C and B and so on BUT I have found NONE that work like

they are supposed to. Besides those that closly work according to

theory, the side effects are so bizzare and unseen in others that

this is scary. I can't even count or mention the side effects I get

even from the most basic supplements.

My body over reacts to everything. I can't control anything.

Everything is a battle. Nothing is going smoothly according to plan.

My next plan is to do proper chelation with ALA until I die in my bed

or finally get better.

What's wrong with me.

ph

[Guest guest]

Hi ph,

No, you're not crazy or alone. This is all very hard to deal with, and when

things don't go right, it's very easy to get discouraged. I go through waves of

that and get depressed about this whole thing, and just wish I was all better.

I get sick and tired of being sick and tired. And I get tired of people not

understanding and having no idea of how sick I really am, since I probably look

pretty normal to them.

Have you had any tests done for absorption or digestion problems? Maybe you're

not absorbing any of the supps you've tried, so you don't get the normal

reaction/benefits. Just a thought. And I believe on the A-M site, they say

sometimes you just have to push through some rounds of chelation to get to a

point where you can tolerate supps. So if you are tolerating chelation, I would

go ahead with that, but slowly and carefully. I always feel better on a round,

so chelation is something that I am very committed to, when I'm not having other

problems.

Good luck and hang in there!

jackie t.

Am I crazy or alone in my situation?

Am I crazy or alone in my situation?

I have the symptoms of mercury poisoning and a hair test that

confirms deranged mineral transport.

Having said that, proper chelation is the way out but this is hard on

my body.

Where I go crazy is that my body doesn't react in any way like other

people's body even mercury toxic peoples.

I have tried probably over 200 different supplements from the most

basic vitamin C and B and so on BUT I have found NONE that work like

they are supposed to. Besides those that closly work according to

theory, the side effects are so bizzare and unseen in others that

this is scary. I can't even count or mention the side effects I get

even from the most basic supplements.

My body over reacts to everything. I can't control anything.

Everything is a battle. Nothing is going smoothly according to plan.

My next plan is to do proper chelation with ALA until I die in my bed

or finally get better.

What's wrong with me.

ph

[Guest guest]

Hi ph,

No, you're not crazy or alone. This is all very hard to deal with, and when

things don't go right, it's very easy to get discouraged. I go through waves of

that and get depressed about this whole thing, and just wish I was all better.

I get sick and tired of being sick and tired. And I get tired of people not

understanding and having no idea of how sick I really am, since I probably look

pretty normal to them.

Have you had any tests done for absorption or digestion problems? Maybe you're

not absorbing any of the supps you've tried, so you don't get the normal

reaction/benefits. Just a thought. And I believe on the A-M site, they say

sometimes you just have to push through some rounds of chelation to get to a

point where you can tolerate supps. So if you are tolerating chelation, I would

go ahead with that, but slowly and carefully. I always feel better on a round,

so chelation is something that I am very committed to, when I'm not having other

problems.

Good luck and hang in there!

jackie t.

Am I crazy or alone in my situation?

Am I crazy or alone in my situation?

I have the symptoms of mercury poisoning and a hair test that

confirms deranged mineral transport.

Having said that, proper chelation is the way out but this is hard on

my body.

Where I go crazy is that my body doesn't react in any way like other

people's body even mercury toxic peoples.

I have tried probably over 200 different supplements from the most

basic vitamin C and B and so on BUT I have found NONE that work like

they are supposed to. Besides those that closly work according to

theory, the side effects are so bizzare and unseen in others that

this is scary. I can't even count or mention the side effects I get

even from the most basic supplements.

My body over reacts to everything. I can't control anything.

Everything is a battle. Nothing is going smoothly according to plan.

My next plan is to do proper chelation with ALA until I die in my bed

or finally get better.

What's wrong with me.

ph

[Guest guest]

I'm not sure why , but thyroid levels affect the efficacy of the

glucoronidation pathway in phase 2. Andy explains this in AI - don't

have it in front of me now, but where he explains about the various

liver pathways and how to improve them, he specifically states

raising thyroid levels to improve glucoronidation.

This has also been confirmed by a UK thyroid specialist, and others,

who have said that Gilberts is a marker for hypothyroidism. I came

across a book entitled 'A Home Reference - Your Thyroid' by Lawrence

C Wood, S , and E Chester Ridgeway. To quote: " Some

patients with thyroid dysfunction have an associated tendency to

develop jaundice, a yellow color of the skin caused by increased

blood levels of a substance know as bilirubin. Though our knowledge

of this relationship is incomplete, some of this patients with mild

jaundice have a harmless condition known as Gilbert's disease. In

these individuals, jaundice develops from time to time because the

liver does not clear bilirubin from the blood properly. "

I;m sure you are aleady doing a liver-friendly diet! It means lots

of juicing, no bad fats, alcohol, sugar, carbs etc etc. More on

www.liverdoctor.com. Cruciferous vegetables are also highly

recommended to improve phase 2, but these (in large quantities) are

BAD for the thyroid, as they are goitrogenic.

Hope this helps

Nicola

> >

> > ph

> >

> > The best thing for bringing down bilirubin in my case has been

taking

> > Armour.

>

>

>

> That's interesting, Nicola. Do you understand why?

>

>

>

>

> > Of course the liver-friendly diet,

>

>

>

> What other things are associated with a liver-friendly diet?

>

> J

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> milk thistle and Vitamin

> > C, no alcohol, processed food, high carbs etc etc all helps, but

my

> > eyes get whiter as my Armour dose gets higher.

> >

> > A friend of mine has been told she can expect her bilirubin to

drop

> > right down once she is optimized on thyroid meds. Are you taking

> > thyroid / adrenal support?

> >

> > Nicola

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I'm not sure why , but thyroid levels affect the efficacy of the

glucoronidation pathway in phase 2. Andy explains this in AI - don't

have it in front of me now, but where he explains about the various

liver pathways and how to improve them, he specifically states

raising thyroid levels to improve glucoronidation.

This has also been confirmed by a UK thyroid specialist, and others,

who have said that Gilberts is a marker for hypothyroidism. I came

across a book entitled 'A Home Reference - Your Thyroid' by Lawrence

C Wood, S , and E Chester Ridgeway. To quote: " Some

patients with thyroid dysfunction have an associated tendency to

develop jaundice, a yellow color of the skin caused by increased

blood levels of a substance know as bilirubin. Though our knowledge

of this relationship is incomplete, some of this patients with mild

jaundice have a harmless condition known as Gilbert's disease. In

these individuals, jaundice develops from time to time because the

liver does not clear bilirubin from the blood properly. "

I;m sure you are aleady doing a liver-friendly diet! It means lots

of juicing, no bad fats, alcohol, sugar, carbs etc etc. More on

www.liverdoctor.com. Cruciferous vegetables are also highly

recommended to improve phase 2, but these (in large quantities) are

BAD for the thyroid, as they are goitrogenic.

Hope this helps

Nicola

> >

> > ph

> >

> > The best thing for bringing down bilirubin in my case has been

taking

> > Armour.

>

>

>

> That's interesting, Nicola. Do you understand why?

>

>

>

>

> > Of course the liver-friendly diet,

>

>

>

> What other things are associated with a liver-friendly diet?

>

> J

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> milk thistle and Vitamin

> > C, no alcohol, processed food, high carbs etc etc all helps, but

my

> > eyes get whiter as my Armour dose gets higher.

> >

> > A friend of mine has been told she can expect her bilirubin to

drop

> > right down once she is optimized on thyroid meds. Are you taking

> > thyroid / adrenal support?

> >

> > Nicola

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I'm not sure why , but thyroid levels affect the efficacy of the

glucoronidation pathway in phase 2. Andy explains this in AI - don't

have it in front of me now, but where he explains about the various

liver pathways and how to improve them, he specifically states

raising thyroid levels to improve glucoronidation.

This has also been confirmed by a UK thyroid specialist, and others,

who have said that Gilberts is a marker for hypothyroidism. I came

across a book entitled 'A Home Reference - Your Thyroid' by Lawrence

C Wood, S , and E Chester Ridgeway. To quote: " Some

patients with thyroid dysfunction have an associated tendency to

develop jaundice, a yellow color of the skin caused by increased

blood levels of a substance know as bilirubin. Though our knowledge

of this relationship is incomplete, some of this patients with mild

jaundice have a harmless condition known as Gilbert's disease. In

these individuals, jaundice develops from time to time because the

liver does not clear bilirubin from the blood properly. "

I;m sure you are aleady doing a liver-friendly diet! It means lots

of juicing, no bad fats, alcohol, sugar, carbs etc etc. More on

www.liverdoctor.com. Cruciferous vegetables are also highly

recommended to improve phase 2, but these (in large quantities) are

BAD for the thyroid, as they are goitrogenic.

Hope this helps

Nicola

> >

> > ph

> >

> > The best thing for bringing down bilirubin in my case has been

taking

> > Armour.

>

>

>

> That's interesting, Nicola. Do you understand why?

>

>

>

>

> > Of course the liver-friendly diet,

>

>

>

> What other things are associated with a liver-friendly diet?

>

> J

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> milk thistle and Vitamin

> > C, no alcohol, processed food, high carbs etc etc all helps, but

my

> > eyes get whiter as my Armour dose gets higher.

> >

> > A friend of mine has been told she can expect her bilirubin to

drop

> > right down once she is optimized on thyroid meds. Are you taking

> > thyroid / adrenal support?

> >

> > Nicola

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Nicola. Your post helps, and I think it's all real important.

>

> I'm not sure why , but thyroid levels affect the efficacy of the

> glucoronidation pathway in phase 2. Andy explains this in AI - don't

> have it in front of me now, but where he explains about the various

> liver pathways and how to improve them, he specifically states

> raising thyroid levels to improve glucoronidation.

>

> This has also been confirmed by a UK thyroid specialist, and others,

> who have said that Gilberts is a marker for hypothyroidism. I came

> across a book entitled 'A Home Reference - Your Thyroid' by Lawrence

> C Wood, S , and E Chester Ridgeway. To quote: " Some

> patients with thyroid dysfunction have an associated tendency to

> develop jaundice, a yellow color of the skin caused by increased

> blood levels of a substance know as bilirubin. Though our knowledge

> of this relationship is incomplete, some of this patients with mild

> jaundice have a harmless condition known as Gilbert's disease. In

> these individuals, jaundice develops from time to time because the

> liver does not clear bilirubin from the blood properly. "

>

> I;m sure you are aleady doing a liver-friendly diet! It means lots

> of juicing, no bad fats, alcohol, sugar, carbs etc etc. More on

> www.liverdoctor.com. Cruciferous vegetables are also highly

> recommended to improve phase 2, but these (in large quantities) are

> BAD for the thyroid, as they are goitrogenic.

>

> Hope this helps

> Nicola

>