Guest guest Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 Am I crazy or alone in my situation? I have the symptoms of mercury poisoning and a hair test that confirms deranged mineral transport. Having said that, proper chelation is the way out but this is hard on my body. Where I go crazy is that my body doesn't react in any way like other people's body even mercury toxic peoples. I have tried probably over 200 different supplements from the most basic vitamin C and B and so on BUT I have found NONE that work like they are supposed to. Besides those that closly work according to theory, the side effects are so bizzare and unseen in others that this is scary. I can't even count or mention the side effects I get even from the most basic supplements. My body over reacts to everything. I can't control anything. Everything is a battle. Nothing is going smoothly according to plan. My next plan is to do proper chelation with ALA until I die in my bed or finally get better. What's wrong with me. ph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 Hi ph, you are not alone. You are echoing the pain of many people caught in a trap of bizzare, erratic and inexplicable symptoms from this toxicity (and perhaps other things contributing at the sametime). You are not crazy, you are very sane, but you are suffering a hell of a lot and anything you try and take, your body ends up going into a tail spin over it. I have had the same thing and so have others. I can end up taking stuff, think I'm ok, and things go wrong and then I don't know if it's the supplements or the general condition itself or both. I stop, try again, or I try something else and so it goes on. The very first thing I would do if I was you? Forget the supplements for now. Concentrate totally on diet and make it as simple and plain as you can, totally avoiding sugar in all forms (not just the typical white sugar, but also fruits and milk, and honey, and potatoes which are high in starch natural sugars), eliminate gluten grains from your diet (wheat, oats, barley, rye), eliminate yeast in all forms, plus things like vinegar, cheese etc. I know it might sound drastic, no more cookies, no more adding sugar to cereal or in hot drinks, but it can be essential for most of us. Concentrate on eating vegetables, eggs, meats, raw nuts (brazil and almonds), possibly plain acidophilus yoghurt (organic if you can), drink water and/or herbal teas. Having good fats like butter, extra virgin olive oils, organic coconut oil etc. You maybe able to handle some limited grains (non gluten), but keep them low. If you have candida overgrowth (which most of us mercury toxic people do), your gut will likely be a mess, and this will also be overloading your liver and anything you try and take, will not only NOT be absorbed properly, but could become an extra strain right now instead of being beneficial and your liver may not be able to cope with anything at the moment. I would fix up your gut on this diet, so your liver is able to work easier and detox a bit better. IF you're doing this, sorry for going on about it, but if you're not? You may find this invaluable. Be warned, if you do decide to embark on this? You may get what is called a " die off " effect. Which is when the candida basically starts to starve to death because what it needs to feed on, is not longer being provided as needed. So it will start to die, you may get cravings, tiredness, some headaches and feeling weird/drunk for a time as this happens. It can take a few days for it to start up, or a few weeks. Once it starts, it can take a few days to subside or a few weeks. But this is probably one of the best things you can do for yourself. STick with it and do not give up, do not cheat, hold on and let your body disgard the yeast and excess toxins. It's not a cure for mercury poisoning, but it is a great help for many people and allows their system to be more efficient at coping with mercury, as well detoxing easier. You will also detox other toxins on this diet, so that will take some load of also. I would do this before taking anything, supplements or chelation. Certainly, I would do it regardless, whether you want to continue to try supplements or get onto chelation, I would seriously consider this diet. > > My body over reacts to everything. I can't control anything. > Everything is a battle. Nothing is going smoothly according to plan. > > My next plan is to do proper chelation with ALA until I die in my bed > or finally get better. > > What's wrong with me. > > ph > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 Hi ph, you are not alone. You are echoing the pain of many people caught in a trap of bizzare, erratic and inexplicable symptoms from this toxicity (and perhaps other things contributing at the sametime). You are not crazy, you are very sane, but you are suffering a hell of a lot and anything you try and take, your body ends up going into a tail spin over it. I have had the same thing and so have others. I can end up taking stuff, think I'm ok, and things go wrong and then I don't know if it's the supplements or the general condition itself or both. I stop, try again, or I try something else and so it goes on. The very first thing I would do if I was you? Forget the supplements for now. Concentrate totally on diet and make it as simple and plain as you can, totally avoiding sugar in all forms (not just the typical white sugar, but also fruits and milk, and honey, and potatoes which are high in starch natural sugars), eliminate gluten grains from your diet (wheat, oats, barley, rye), eliminate yeast in all forms, plus things like vinegar, cheese etc. I know it might sound drastic, no more cookies, no more adding sugar to cereal or in hot drinks, but it can be essential for most of us. Concentrate on eating vegetables, eggs, meats, raw nuts (brazil and almonds), possibly plain acidophilus yoghurt (organic if you can), drink water and/or herbal teas. Having good fats like butter, extra virgin olive oils, organic coconut oil etc. You maybe able to handle some limited grains (non gluten), but keep them low. If you have candida overgrowth (which most of us mercury toxic people do), your gut will likely be a mess, and this will also be overloading your liver and anything you try and take, will not only NOT be absorbed properly, but could become an extra strain right now instead of being beneficial and your liver may not be able to cope with anything at the moment. I would fix up your gut on this diet, so your liver is able to work easier and detox a bit better. IF you're doing this, sorry for going on about it, but if you're not? You may find this invaluable. Be warned, if you do decide to embark on this? You may get what is called a " die off " effect. Which is when the candida basically starts to starve to death because what it needs to feed on, is not longer being provided as needed. So it will start to die, you may get cravings, tiredness, some headaches and feeling weird/drunk for a time as this happens. It can take a few days for it to start up, or a few weeks. Once it starts, it can take a few days to subside or a few weeks. But this is probably one of the best things you can do for yourself. STick with it and do not give up, do not cheat, hold on and let your body disgard the yeast and excess toxins. It's not a cure for mercury poisoning, but it is a great help for many people and allows their system to be more efficient at coping with mercury, as well detoxing easier. You will also detox other toxins on this diet, so that will take some load of also. I would do this before taking anything, supplements or chelation. Certainly, I would do it regardless, whether you want to continue to try supplements or get onto chelation, I would seriously consider this diet. > > My body over reacts to everything. I can't control anything. > Everything is a battle. Nothing is going smoothly according to plan. > > My next plan is to do proper chelation with ALA until I die in my bed > or finally get better. > > What's wrong with me. > > ph > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 > Am I crazy or alone in my situation? > > I have the symptoms of mercury poisoning and a hair test that > confirms deranged mineral transport. Sorry to go back to square one, but I am assuming you DO have ALL your amalgams out, right???? > > Having said that, proper chelation is the way out but this is hard on > my body. It is hard on many of us > > Where I go crazy is that my body doesn't react in any way like other > people's body even mercury toxic peoples. How can you be so sure? In what ways? > > I have tried probably over 200 different supplements from the most > basic vitamin C and B and so on BUT I have found NONE that work like > they are supposed to. In what way? > Besides those that closly work according to > theory, the side effects are so bizzare and unseen in others that > this is scary. I can't even count or mention the side effects I get > even from the most basic supplements. > > My body over reacts to everything. I can't control anything. > Everything is a battle. Nothing is going smoothly according to plan. Do you have a liver that is FAST PHASE II and SLOW PHASE II? And if so, what have you been doing for it? > My next plan is to do proper chelation with ALA until I die in my bed > or finally get better. Er...PROPER chelation, with ALA may not be what you need right now. Details, please. Bottom line is that PROPER is what is PROPER for you at this time. HAve you chelated long enough with DMSA alone and NO added ALA? Have you worked with DMPS? We need some history here. (Sorry if you have posted it before, but I have not been around for a little while, and missed some stuff) > What's wrong with me. SOunds like you are very toxic. I almost died from the crap....getting better inch by inch. I don't mean to be snotty by my answers, but you need to be a little more specific...okay, a lot. I can certainly commiserate and relate to the frustration, anguish, exasperation, depression and sometimes, it was even pure physical horror for me, so you are not alone in that respect. I am sure there are others who can say the same. Please give us amounts, supplements , what you have been chelating with, the dosing schedule, if you are you high palsma cysteine...etc.etc...details! Have you read the Amalgam Illness book from cover to cover a few times? Help us out here, so we can try and help you out, okay? ~Inga > > ph > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 > Am I crazy or alone in my situation? > > I have the symptoms of mercury poisoning and a hair test that > confirms deranged mineral transport. Sorry to go back to square one, but I am assuming you DO have ALL your amalgams out, right???? > > Having said that, proper chelation is the way out but this is hard on > my body. It is hard on many of us > > Where I go crazy is that my body doesn't react in any way like other > people's body even mercury toxic peoples. How can you be so sure? In what ways? > > I have tried probably over 200 different supplements from the most > basic vitamin C and B and so on BUT I have found NONE that work like > they are supposed to. In what way? > Besides those that closly work according to > theory, the side effects are so bizzare and unseen in others that > this is scary. I can't even count or mention the side effects I get > even from the most basic supplements. > > My body over reacts to everything. I can't control anything. > Everything is a battle. Nothing is going smoothly according to plan. Do you have a liver that is FAST PHASE II and SLOW PHASE II? And if so, what have you been doing for it? > My next plan is to do proper chelation with ALA until I die in my bed > or finally get better. Er...PROPER chelation, with ALA may not be what you need right now. Details, please. Bottom line is that PROPER is what is PROPER for you at this time. HAve you chelated long enough with DMSA alone and NO added ALA? Have you worked with DMPS? We need some history here. (Sorry if you have posted it before, but I have not been around for a little while, and missed some stuff) > What's wrong with me. SOunds like you are very toxic. I almost died from the crap....getting better inch by inch. I don't mean to be snotty by my answers, but you need to be a little more specific...okay, a lot. I can certainly commiserate and relate to the frustration, anguish, exasperation, depression and sometimes, it was even pure physical horror for me, so you are not alone in that respect. I am sure there are others who can say the same. Please give us amounts, supplements , what you have been chelating with, the dosing schedule, if you are you high palsma cysteine...etc.etc...details! Have you read the Amalgam Illness book from cover to cover a few times? Help us out here, so we can try and help you out, okay? ~Inga > > ph > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 > Am I crazy or alone in my situation? > > I have the symptoms of mercury poisoning and a hair test that > confirms deranged mineral transport. Sorry to go back to square one, but I am assuming you DO have ALL your amalgams out, right???? > > Having said that, proper chelation is the way out but this is hard on > my body. It is hard on many of us > > Where I go crazy is that my body doesn't react in any way like other > people's body even mercury toxic peoples. How can you be so sure? In what ways? > > I have tried probably over 200 different supplements from the most > basic vitamin C and B and so on BUT I have found NONE that work like > they are supposed to. In what way? > Besides those that closly work according to > theory, the side effects are so bizzare and unseen in others that > this is scary. I can't even count or mention the side effects I get > even from the most basic supplements. > > My body over reacts to everything. I can't control anything. > Everything is a battle. Nothing is going smoothly according to plan. Do you have a liver that is FAST PHASE II and SLOW PHASE II? And if so, what have you been doing for it? > My next plan is to do proper chelation with ALA until I die in my bed > or finally get better. Er...PROPER chelation, with ALA may not be what you need right now. Details, please. Bottom line is that PROPER is what is PROPER for you at this time. HAve you chelated long enough with DMSA alone and NO added ALA? Have you worked with DMPS? We need some history here. (Sorry if you have posted it before, but I have not been around for a little while, and missed some stuff) > What's wrong with me. SOunds like you are very toxic. I almost died from the crap....getting better inch by inch. I don't mean to be snotty by my answers, but you need to be a little more specific...okay, a lot. I can certainly commiserate and relate to the frustration, anguish, exasperation, depression and sometimes, it was even pure physical horror for me, so you are not alone in that respect. I am sure there are others who can say the same. Please give us amounts, supplements , what you have been chelating with, the dosing schedule, if you are you high palsma cysteine...etc.etc...details! Have you read the Amalgam Illness book from cover to cover a few times? Help us out here, so we can try and help you out, okay? ~Inga > > ph > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 ph You are not crazy. You are not alone either. I remember once when you posted test results on autism mercury you bilirubin was high. Did you or your doctor ever figure out why that was? In autism mercury parents often report that their kids don't tolerate supplements at first, and some can be introduced with chelation. Have you ever tried fresh vegetable juices. Our juicer has to be the best investment I ever made. I juice mostly celery, with smaller quantities of carrot, parsley, apple, ginger, sometimes spinach. The apple and ginger are what makes it taste good. That way the nutrients come in the whole package - much better than capsules. Then, you still need a source of omega 3 - maybe eat small (low mercury) fatty fish everyday if you can't tolerate cod liver oil and flax oil. Magnesium you can get with epsom salt baths and MgSO4 or Mg Cl creams. For protein you could take meat and pretreat it with bromelain BEFORE cooking. That way the enzyme breaks the protein down, but is killed during cooking so doesn't break your gut down. Just some ideas. Are you still taking cortef? Going off cortef quickly could give a person a hopeless feeling - or much worse. Please be careful and please ensure that your doctor does his job responsibly and isn't allowed to cut you off. Have you investigated whether or not you need thyroid hormone (from symptoms and body temperature)? It would probably be worthwhile to look at Andy's " Pick the right diet for your kid " in autism mercury files. Diet can give HUGE symptoms relief, but it's a trick to figure out what is best for each individual (and Andy has summarized the tricks). If you start to chelate with ALA again... please go slow. Take Care > > Am I crazy or alone in my situation? > > I have the symptoms of mercury poisoning and a hair test that > confirms deranged mineral transport. > > Having said that, proper chelation is the way out but this is hard on > my body. > > Where I go crazy is that my body doesn't react in any way like other > people's body even mercury toxic peoples. > > I have tried probably over 200 different supplements from the most > basic vitamin C and B and so on BUT I have found NONE that work like > they are supposed to. Besides those that closly work according to > theory, the side effects are so bizzare and unseen in others that > this is scary. I can't even count or mention the side effects I get > even from the most basic supplements. > > My body over reacts to everything. I can't control anything. > Everything is a battle. Nothing is going smoothly according to plan. > > My next plan is to do proper chelation with ALA until I die in my bed > or finally get better. > > What's wrong with me. > > ph > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 Fats is right. Diet can make a huge difference. I have given up processed food - no sugar,wheat,etc. I'm almost 1 month on it now and yeah, it makes a difference. You might have a few bumps in the beginning but stick with it. I've also added meat back into my diet. Lots of protein. I'm following the diet for copper toxicity since my copper levels were so high. You might want to get the book " Why am I always so tired? " by Anne Louise Gittleman. She explains how to rebalance zinc/copper ratio. That MAY be a problem for you. The nasty thing about metal poisoning is we crave, crave, crave what is horrible for us. So it's a downward spiral. Tk recommended a year ago that I had to give up the junk but I just couldn't. Kept making all these deals with the devil. Well, I'm sticking with it now. It is so worth it. Lost a few pounds too! In all my years reading these health boards, almost without fail, the people who reported being healed made vast improvements in their diet. Hang in there, Val ===================== > Hi ph, you are not alone. You are echoing the pain of many > people caught in a trap of bizzare, erratic and inexplicable symptoms > from this toxicity (and perhaps other things contributing at the > sametime). You are not crazy, you are very sane, but you are > suffering a hell of a lot and anything you try and take, your body > ends up going into a tail spin over it. > > I have had the same thing and so have others. I can end up taking > stuff, think I'm ok, and things go wrong and then I don't know if > it's the supplements or the general condition itself or both. I > stop, try again, or I try something else and so it goes on. > > The very first thing I would do if I was you? Forget the supplements > for now. Concentrate totally on diet and make it as simple and plain > as you can, totally avoiding sugar in all forms (not just the typical > white sugar, but also fruits and milk, and honey, and potatoes which > are high in starch natural sugars), eliminate gluten grains from your > diet (wheat, oats, barley, rye), eliminate yeast in all forms, plus > things like vinegar, cheese etc. I know it might sound drastic, no > more cookies, no more adding sugar to cereal or in hot drinks, but it > can be essential for most of us. > > Concentrate on eating vegetables, eggs, meats, raw nuts (brazil and > almonds), possibly plain acidophilus yoghurt (organic if you can), > drink water and/or herbal teas. Having good fats like butter, extra > virgin olive oils, organic coconut oil etc. You maybe able to handle > some limited grains (non gluten), but keep them low. > > If you have candida overgrowth (which most of us mercury toxic people > do), your gut will likely be a mess, and this will also be > overloading your liver and anything you try and take, will not only > NOT be absorbed properly, but could become an extra strain right now > instead of being beneficial and your liver may not be able to cope > with anything at the moment. > > I would fix up your gut on this diet, so your liver is able to work > easier and detox a bit better. IF you're doing this, sorry for going > on about it, but if you're not? You may find this invaluable. > > Be warned, if you do decide to embark on this? You may get what is > called a " die off " effect. Which is when the candida basically > starts to starve to death because what it needs to feed on, is not > longer being provided as needed. So it will start to die, you may > get cravings, tiredness, some headaches and feeling weird/drunk for a > time as this happens. It can take a few days for it to start up, or > a few weeks. Once it starts, it can take a few days to subside or a > few weeks. But this is probably one of the best things you can do > for yourself. STick with it and do not give up, do not cheat, hold > on and let your body disgard the yeast and excess toxins. > > It's not a cure for mercury poisoning, but it is a great help for > many people and allows their system to be more efficient at coping > with mercury, as well detoxing easier. You will also detox other > toxins on this diet, so that will take some load of also. > > I would do this before taking anything, supplements or chelation. > Certainly, I would do it regardless, whether you want to continue to > try supplements or get onto chelation, I would seriously consider > this diet. > > > > > > > > > My body over reacts to everything. I can't control anything. > > Everything is a battle. Nothing is going smoothly according to plan. > > > > My next plan is to do proper chelation with ALA until I die in my > bed > > or finally get better. > > > > What's wrong with me. > > > > ph > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 Fats is right. Diet can make a huge difference. I have given up processed food - no sugar,wheat,etc. I'm almost 1 month on it now and yeah, it makes a difference. You might have a few bumps in the beginning but stick with it. I've also added meat back into my diet. Lots of protein. I'm following the diet for copper toxicity since my copper levels were so high. You might want to get the book " Why am I always so tired? " by Anne Louise Gittleman. She explains how to rebalance zinc/copper ratio. That MAY be a problem for you. The nasty thing about metal poisoning is we crave, crave, crave what is horrible for us. So it's a downward spiral. Tk recommended a year ago that I had to give up the junk but I just couldn't. Kept making all these deals with the devil. Well, I'm sticking with it now. It is so worth it. Lost a few pounds too! In all my years reading these health boards, almost without fail, the people who reported being healed made vast improvements in their diet. Hang in there, Val ===================== > Hi ph, you are not alone. You are echoing the pain of many > people caught in a trap of bizzare, erratic and inexplicable symptoms > from this toxicity (and perhaps other things contributing at the > sametime). You are not crazy, you are very sane, but you are > suffering a hell of a lot and anything you try and take, your body > ends up going into a tail spin over it. > > I have had the same thing and so have others. I can end up taking > stuff, think I'm ok, and things go wrong and then I don't know if > it's the supplements or the general condition itself or both. I > stop, try again, or I try something else and so it goes on. > > The very first thing I would do if I was you? Forget the supplements > for now. Concentrate totally on diet and make it as simple and plain > as you can, totally avoiding sugar in all forms (not just the typical > white sugar, but also fruits and milk, and honey, and potatoes which > are high in starch natural sugars), eliminate gluten grains from your > diet (wheat, oats, barley, rye), eliminate yeast in all forms, plus > things like vinegar, cheese etc. I know it might sound drastic, no > more cookies, no more adding sugar to cereal or in hot drinks, but it > can be essential for most of us. > > Concentrate on eating vegetables, eggs, meats, raw nuts (brazil and > almonds), possibly plain acidophilus yoghurt (organic if you can), > drink water and/or herbal teas. Having good fats like butter, extra > virgin olive oils, organic coconut oil etc. You maybe able to handle > some limited grains (non gluten), but keep them low. > > If you have candida overgrowth (which most of us mercury toxic people > do), your gut will likely be a mess, and this will also be > overloading your liver and anything you try and take, will not only > NOT be absorbed properly, but could become an extra strain right now > instead of being beneficial and your liver may not be able to cope > with anything at the moment. > > I would fix up your gut on this diet, so your liver is able to work > easier and detox a bit better. IF you're doing this, sorry for going > on about it, but if you're not? You may find this invaluable. > > Be warned, if you do decide to embark on this? You may get what is > called a " die off " effect. Which is when the candida basically > starts to starve to death because what it needs to feed on, is not > longer being provided as needed. So it will start to die, you may > get cravings, tiredness, some headaches and feeling weird/drunk for a > time as this happens. It can take a few days for it to start up, or > a few weeks. Once it starts, it can take a few days to subside or a > few weeks. But this is probably one of the best things you can do > for yourself. STick with it and do not give up, do not cheat, hold > on and let your body disgard the yeast and excess toxins. > > It's not a cure for mercury poisoning, but it is a great help for > many people and allows their system to be more efficient at coping > with mercury, as well detoxing easier. You will also detox other > toxins on this diet, so that will take some load of also. > > I would do this before taking anything, supplements or chelation. > Certainly, I would do it regardless, whether you want to continue to > try supplements or get onto chelation, I would seriously consider > this diet. > > > > > > > > > My body over reacts to everything. I can't control anything. > > Everything is a battle. Nothing is going smoothly according to plan. > > > > My next plan is to do proper chelation with ALA until I die in my > bed > > or finally get better. > > > > What's wrong with me. > > > > ph > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 Gosh, I didn't consider or realize that it was form the metals. I thought it was more blood sugar, allergies, and being spineless. Somehow, you just made me feel a little bit better. Thanks, Inga PS - Did I tell you about the wonderful deep fried crab puffs I ate all day yesterday???? Well, at least I do make them with coconut oil. (Had to add a little levity here, LOL) > The nasty thing about metal poisoning is we crave, crave, crave > what is horrible for us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 Gosh, I didn't consider or realize that it was form the metals. I thought it was more blood sugar, allergies, and being spineless. Somehow, you just made me feel a little bit better. Thanks, Inga PS - Did I tell you about the wonderful deep fried crab puffs I ate all day yesterday???? Well, at least I do make them with coconut oil. (Had to add a little levity here, LOL) > The nasty thing about metal poisoning is we crave, crave, crave > what is horrible for us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 Gosh, I didn't consider or realize that it was form the metals. I thought it was more blood sugar, allergies, and being spineless. Somehow, you just made me feel a little bit better. Thanks, Inga PS - Did I tell you about the wonderful deep fried crab puffs I ate all day yesterday???? Well, at least I do make them with coconut oil. (Had to add a little levity here, LOL) > The nasty thing about metal poisoning is we crave, crave, crave > what is horrible for us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 My Dr. says I have Gilbert's Syndrome and of course he says that it causes no impact on my life. I wonder if a succesful mercury detox would bring my bilirubin back to normal. (Now i'm 4 times the maximum allowed bilirubin in blood) As far as diet is concerned I tried for years the candida diet and others like that. No result what so ever ecxept frustration! This is a nightmare. ph > > High serum bilirubin with otherwise normal liver enzymes is a condition > called Gilberts Syndrome. I have it, and I have read that a lot of > people with chronic fatigue have it. It is a sluggishness of the Phase > 2 pathway of the liver, specifically the glucoronidation process, which > breaks down bilirubin and gets rid of it. People with Gilberts tend to > have yellow skin, possibly yellow eyes, and liver associated symptoms - > IBS, nausea, anxiety. Gilberts is a genetic disorder, and the doctors > claim it is a benign, standalone condition with no impact. It is of > course hugely significant because it means that Gilberts people don't > dtoxify properly, which is a problem with metal toxicity. Gilberts can > also be acquired from heavy metal poisoning, as the heavy metals cause > an imbalance in the phase one and phase two liver pathways. I am the > only one in my family to have Gilberts, and (had) a mouthful of > fillings. Go figure. > > One other thing - Gilberts can be a marker for hypothyroidism. Thyroid > hormone also gets processed in this particular pathway, and if it is > not operating properly, the conversion of T4 to T3 doesn't happen > properly. > > There is loads more info about Gilberts on this website - > > http://p075.ezboard.com/bgilbertsweb > > Nicola > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 My Dr. says I have Gilbert's Syndrome and of course he says that it causes no impact on my life. I wonder if a succesful mercury detox would bring my bilirubin back to normal. (Now i'm 4 times the maximum allowed bilirubin in blood) As far as diet is concerned I tried for years the candida diet and others like that. No result what so ever ecxept frustration! This is a nightmare. ph > > High serum bilirubin with otherwise normal liver enzymes is a condition > called Gilberts Syndrome. I have it, and I have read that a lot of > people with chronic fatigue have it. It is a sluggishness of the Phase > 2 pathway of the liver, specifically the glucoronidation process, which > breaks down bilirubin and gets rid of it. People with Gilberts tend to > have yellow skin, possibly yellow eyes, and liver associated symptoms - > IBS, nausea, anxiety. Gilberts is a genetic disorder, and the doctors > claim it is a benign, standalone condition with no impact. It is of > course hugely significant because it means that Gilberts people don't > dtoxify properly, which is a problem with metal toxicity. Gilberts can > also be acquired from heavy metal poisoning, as the heavy metals cause > an imbalance in the phase one and phase two liver pathways. I am the > only one in my family to have Gilberts, and (had) a mouthful of > fillings. Go figure. > > One other thing - Gilberts can be a marker for hypothyroidism. Thyroid > hormone also gets processed in this particular pathway, and if it is > not operating properly, the conversion of T4 to T3 doesn't happen > properly. > > There is loads more info about Gilberts on this website - > > http://p075.ezboard.com/bgilbertsweb > > Nicola > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 My Dr. says I have Gilbert's Syndrome and of course he says that it causes no impact on my life. I wonder if a succesful mercury detox would bring my bilirubin back to normal. (Now i'm 4 times the maximum allowed bilirubin in blood) As far as diet is concerned I tried for years the candida diet and others like that. No result what so ever ecxept frustration! This is a nightmare. ph > > High serum bilirubin with otherwise normal liver enzymes is a condition > called Gilberts Syndrome. I have it, and I have read that a lot of > people with chronic fatigue have it. It is a sluggishness of the Phase > 2 pathway of the liver, specifically the glucoronidation process, which > breaks down bilirubin and gets rid of it. People with Gilberts tend to > have yellow skin, possibly yellow eyes, and liver associated symptoms - > IBS, nausea, anxiety. Gilberts is a genetic disorder, and the doctors > claim it is a benign, standalone condition with no impact. It is of > course hugely significant because it means that Gilberts people don't > dtoxify properly, which is a problem with metal toxicity. Gilberts can > also be acquired from heavy metal poisoning, as the heavy metals cause > an imbalance in the phase one and phase two liver pathways. I am the > only one in my family to have Gilberts, and (had) a mouthful of > fillings. Go figure. > > One other thing - Gilberts can be a marker for hypothyroidism. Thyroid > hormone also gets processed in this particular pathway, and if it is > not operating properly, the conversion of T4 to T3 doesn't happen > properly. > > There is loads more info about Gilberts on this website - > > http://p075.ezboard.com/bgilbertsweb > > Nicola > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 Hi ph: I haven't been on this board for a long time. Your post was so close to my own experience that I wanted to tell you that you that I was unable to consume much at all ten years ago. Istill have quite a bit of sensitivities but I've improved and you can improve also. I had to give up on supplements 10 years ago, but I finally am able to take a few recently. I can also eat more variety of foods now. Andy posted on this board a couple of years ago about how effective sweat therapy is for heavy metal detox. It is what I had to embrace because I was oversensitive to anything I took internally. There's much more than sweating and you can find the diet and hygenic care for yourself that is tolerable as you detox. Continue to learn about how to get the mercury out of your body and how to eat and take care of yourself. Be patient, positive and keep at it. Best thoughts to you, Gia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 Hi ph: I haven't been on this board for a long time. Your post was so close to my own experience that I wanted to tell you that you that I was unable to consume much at all ten years ago. Istill have quite a bit of sensitivities but I've improved and you can improve also. I had to give up on supplements 10 years ago, but I finally am able to take a few recently. I can also eat more variety of foods now. Andy posted on this board a couple of years ago about how effective sweat therapy is for heavy metal detox. It is what I had to embrace because I was oversensitive to anything I took internally. There's much more than sweating and you can find the diet and hygenic care for yourself that is tolerable as you detox. Continue to learn about how to get the mercury out of your body and how to eat and take care of yourself. Be patient, positive and keep at it. Best thoughts to you, Gia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 Hi ph, sorry the candida diet etc hasn't done much if anything foryou. I am experiencing this also nowadays, though it used once help me dramatically. Pity I cannot experience that anymore, though for some, obviously it does. If you no longer have amalgams, you'd be wise to get onto chelation if you can handle it and start reducing the mercury. I think mercury is responsible for many things that we can attribute to other problems. IT disturbs almost anything in the human mind and body. Nothing would surprise me that what you've been " diagnosed " with is actually an underlining mercury problem. I know we can't blame mercury for all ills, but if we can't find any way out of them? It's probably a good idea to start looking at mercury and seeing if chelation helps, especially if nothing else has. Yes it is a nightmare, I have never gone through so much in my life and I can't seem to get out of it, I sure hope you have better luck when you start chelating. > > My Dr. says I have Gilbert's Syndrome and of course he says that it > causes no impact on my life. > > I wonder if a succesful mercury detox would bring my bilirubin back > to normal. (Now i'm 4 times the maximum allowed bilirubin in blood) > > As far as diet is concerned I tried for years the candida diet and > others like that. No result what so ever ecxept frustration! > > This is a nightmare. > > ph > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 Hi ph, sorry the candida diet etc hasn't done much if anything foryou. I am experiencing this also nowadays, though it used once help me dramatically. Pity I cannot experience that anymore, though for some, obviously it does. If you no longer have amalgams, you'd be wise to get onto chelation if you can handle it and start reducing the mercury. I think mercury is responsible for many things that we can attribute to other problems. IT disturbs almost anything in the human mind and body. Nothing would surprise me that what you've been " diagnosed " with is actually an underlining mercury problem. I know we can't blame mercury for all ills, but if we can't find any way out of them? It's probably a good idea to start looking at mercury and seeing if chelation helps, especially if nothing else has. Yes it is a nightmare, I have never gone through so much in my life and I can't seem to get out of it, I sure hope you have better luck when you start chelating. > > My Dr. says I have Gilbert's Syndrome and of course he says that it > causes no impact on my life. > > I wonder if a succesful mercury detox would bring my bilirubin back > to normal. (Now i'm 4 times the maximum allowed bilirubin in blood) > > As far as diet is concerned I tried for years the candida diet and > others like that. No result what so ever ecxept frustration! > > This is a nightmare. > > ph > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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