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Hi, I'm from Winona, Minnesota. It's about 2 hours Southeast of the Twin Cities. We are doctoring in LaCrosse, Wisconsin at Gunderson Clinic. Hugs, Barb STARband 1/30/06 nicole <fanofleesa@...> wrote: I was just wondering how many moms are from Minnesota? I live in St.Cloud. I saw a post from Kim who lives in Duluth and they did a news story about your baby. I think that is so great. It seems to me that more people should be educated on plagio and tort. I know as a first time mom I wish I would have been given information about it. I was actually kind of angry because we started out with a different ped than we have now and at Isabelle's 2 month appointment her ped said she noticed that she was starting to get a flat

spot on her right side but she didn't tell me to try repositioning or anything. I switched peds and at Isabelle's 4 month check up her ped recomended that we go to a physical therapist cause her flat spot was getting worse. Anyways we are getting her hemet on the 31st. And I was just wondering how many other parents are from Minnesota.

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Hi, I'm from Winona, Minnesota. It's about 2 hours Southeast of the Twin Cities. We are doctoring in LaCrosse, Wisconsin at Gunderson Clinic. Hugs, Barb STARband 1/30/06 nicole <fanofleesa@...> wrote: I was just wondering how many moms are from Minnesota? I live in St.Cloud. I saw a post from Kim who lives in Duluth and they did a news story about your baby. I think that is so great. It seems to me that more people should be educated on plagio and tort. I know as a first time mom I wish I would have been given information about it. I was actually kind of angry because we started out with a different ped than we have now and at Isabelle's 2 month appointment her ped said she noticed that she was starting to get a flat

spot on her right side but she didn't tell me to try repositioning or anything. I switched peds and at Isabelle's 4 month check up her ped recomended that we go to a physical therapist cause her flat spot was getting worse. Anyways we are getting her hemet on the 31st. And I was just wondering how many other parents are from Minnesota.

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Well I said something earlier but I am from Minnesota.

-----Original Message-----From: Plagiocephaly [mailto:Plagiocephaly ]On Behalf Of nicoleSent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 7:50 PMPlagiocephaly Subject: How many moms from Minnesota?I was just wondering how many moms are from Minnesota? I live in St.Cloud. I saw a post from Kim who lives in Duluth and they did a news story about your baby. I think that is so great. It seems to me that more people should be educated on plagio and tort. I know as a first time mom I wish I would have been given information about it. I was actually kind of angry because we started out with a different ped than we have now and at Isabelle's 2 month appointment her ped said she noticed that she was starting to get a flat spot on her right side but she didn't tell me to try repositioning or anything. I switched peds and at Isabelle's 4 month check up her ped recomended that we go to a physical therapist cause her flat spot was getting worse. Anyways we are getting her hemet on the 31st. And I was just wondering how many other parents are from Minnesota.

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Well I said something earlier but I am from Minnesota.

-----Original Message-----From: Plagiocephaly [mailto:Plagiocephaly ]On Behalf Of nicoleSent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 7:50 PMPlagiocephaly Subject: How many moms from Minnesota?I was just wondering how many moms are from Minnesota? I live in St.Cloud. I saw a post from Kim who lives in Duluth and they did a news story about your baby. I think that is so great. It seems to me that more people should be educated on plagio and tort. I know as a first time mom I wish I would have been given information about it. I was actually kind of angry because we started out with a different ped than we have now and at Isabelle's 2 month appointment her ped said she noticed that she was starting to get a flat spot on her right side but she didn't tell me to try repositioning or anything. I switched peds and at Isabelle's 4 month check up her ped recomended that we go to a physical therapist cause her flat spot was getting worse. Anyways we are getting her hemet on the 31st. And I was just wondering how many other parents are from Minnesota.

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My grandson is from St. , Minnesota...is now wearing the

Gillette CranioCap and has been since mid November - he was 10-1/2

months old when he went into it...a little bit old...but, he has mild

plagio and hopefully this will help round out his noggin. His ped.

said - 'oh, it will take care of itself', but his father wanted to

pursue the helmet just to be sure. Guess he is scheduled to wear it

until at least mid Feb. We shall see at that time...

Last week I called another place, Winkley Orthotics next to

Minneapolis Childrens Hospital to see if the CranioCap does not do

the job would they consider banding him with a Star or Doc

Band...they told me that they do not band any child with assyemtry

under 1.2 cm.or 10 mm - and that the Cranio Cap will do the same job

as the Star Band...also said that a lot of times the mild cases do

round themselves out, and as he ages it will continue to correct (I

hope they are right). So, when this helmet comes off...guess he is

done with treatment! Also told me to have them check him for

Torticollis as that goes hand in hand with plagio most of the time.

Said that most Dr.s are really uninformed about all this and they are

seeing more and more of the plagio from the back to sleep campaign

and also children in daycare. Day care providers by law have to have

a worker one on one with each child if they are on their stomach, and

so most of the time they just keep them in bouncy seats, etc. so

they do not get the tummy time needed. Can also be caused by many

other reasons...ie. position during gestation, in the birth canal,

mother having a small pelvis, and of course the tight neck muscles.

Well, this got long, but that is the info thay passed onto me..maybe

some of this will help you.

I have posted in the past, and gotten good info and several

connections to moms in Mn. see post...back in November...from

PhyllisInCincy if you want to check more of our story.

Grandma Phyllis in Cincinnati...KM - Grandson in Minnesota...Mild

Plagio - CranioCap November 2005 - age..will be 1 year end of Jan.

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My grandson is from St. , Minnesota...is now wearing the

Gillette CranioCap and has been since mid November - he was 10-1/2

months old when he went into it...a little bit old...but, he has mild

plagio and hopefully this will help round out his noggin. His ped.

said - 'oh, it will take care of itself', but his father wanted to

pursue the helmet just to be sure. Guess he is scheduled to wear it

until at least mid Feb. We shall see at that time...

Last week I called another place, Winkley Orthotics next to

Minneapolis Childrens Hospital to see if the CranioCap does not do

the job would they consider banding him with a Star or Doc

Band...they told me that they do not band any child with assyemtry

under 1.2 cm.or 10 mm - and that the Cranio Cap will do the same job

as the Star Band...also said that a lot of times the mild cases do

round themselves out, and as he ages it will continue to correct (I

hope they are right). So, when this helmet comes off...guess he is

done with treatment! Also told me to have them check him for

Torticollis as that goes hand in hand with plagio most of the time.

Said that most Dr.s are really uninformed about all this and they are

seeing more and more of the plagio from the back to sleep campaign

and also children in daycare. Day care providers by law have to have

a worker one on one with each child if they are on their stomach, and

so most of the time they just keep them in bouncy seats, etc. so

they do not get the tummy time needed. Can also be caused by many

other reasons...ie. position during gestation, in the birth canal,

mother having a small pelvis, and of course the tight neck muscles.

Well, this got long, but that is the info thay passed onto me..maybe

some of this will help you.

I have posted in the past, and gotten good info and several

connections to moms in Mn. see post...back in November...from

PhyllisInCincy if you want to check more of our story.

Grandma Phyllis in Cincinnati...KM - Grandson in Minnesota...Mild

Plagio - CranioCap November 2005 - age..will be 1 year end of Jan.

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Phillis,

I have been reading all you MN mom posts,lol, there are quite a few.

How great it will be to have a support group for the area. I did

however have a question about what I read in your talk with the

people at Winkley if you don't mind. Do you know why they will not

band a baby unless they are already at 10mm of asymmetry? Is this

because of their belief that it will round out in most cases unless

severe? Most of the band providers start banding at 5mm of asymmetry

and 10mm is just 1mm away from moderate. Also just to give you some

feedback on everything I have learned from my extensive research,

most babies still having asymmetry over 6 months of age will not

round out on thier own, they will recieve what we we get after

banding the 1mm or sometimes 2mm, but not enough to correct it.

So your grandson might be finished in Feb. That is awesome! I see you

were talking about tort, do you think he is dealing with that as

well? I hope not, but if he is there is a great support group for

torticollis with lots of info. and help. It is

Torticolliskids/ There is also

the stretching document in the files here to show how to do the

stretches. Local Early Intervention can help with tort. therapy also

at low cost or no cost to parents if physical therapy is needed.

Talk with you soon.

CAROLG

>

> My grandson is from St. , Minnesota...is now wearing the

> Gillette CranioCap and has been since mid November - he was 10-1/2

> months old when he went into it...a little bit old...but, he has

mild

> plagio and hopefully this will help round out his noggin. His ped.

> said - 'oh, it will take care of itself', but his father wanted to

> pursue the helmet just to be sure. Guess he is scheduled to wear

it

> until at least mid Feb. We shall see at that time...

>

> Last week I called another place, Winkley Orthotics next to

> Minneapolis Childrens Hospital to see if the CranioCap does not do

> the job would they consider banding him with a Star or Doc

> Band...they told me that they do not band any child with assyemtry

> under 1.2 cm.or 10 mm - and that the Cranio Cap will do the same

job

> as the Star Band...also said that a lot of times the mild cases do

> round themselves out, and as he ages it will continue to correct (I

> hope they are right). So, when this helmet comes off...guess he is

> done with treatment! Also told me to have them check him for

> Torticollis as that goes hand in hand with plagio most of the

time.

> Said that most Dr.s are really uninformed about all this and they

are

> seeing more and more of the plagio from the back to sleep campaign

> and also children in daycare. Day care providers by law have to

have

> a worker one on one with each child if they are on their stomach,

and

> so most of the time they just keep them in bouncy seats, etc. so

> they do not get the tummy time needed. Can also be caused by many

> other reasons...ie. position during gestation, in the birth canal,

> mother having a small pelvis, and of course the tight neck

muscles.

> Well, this got long, but that is the info thay passed onto

me..maybe

> some of this will help you.

>

>

> I have posted in the past, and gotten good info and several

> connections to moms in Mn. see post...back in November...from

> PhyllisInCincy if you want to check more of our story.

>

> Grandma Phyllis in Cincinnati...KM - Grandson in Minnesota...Mild

> Plagio - CranioCap November 2005 - age..will be 1 year end of Jan.

>

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Phillis,

I have been reading all you MN mom posts,lol, there are quite a few.

How great it will be to have a support group for the area. I did

however have a question about what I read in your talk with the

people at Winkley if you don't mind. Do you know why they will not

band a baby unless they are already at 10mm of asymmetry? Is this

because of their belief that it will round out in most cases unless

severe? Most of the band providers start banding at 5mm of asymmetry

and 10mm is just 1mm away from moderate. Also just to give you some

feedback on everything I have learned from my extensive research,

most babies still having asymmetry over 6 months of age will not

round out on thier own, they will recieve what we we get after

banding the 1mm or sometimes 2mm, but not enough to correct it.

So your grandson might be finished in Feb. That is awesome! I see you

were talking about tort, do you think he is dealing with that as

well? I hope not, but if he is there is a great support group for

torticollis with lots of info. and help. It is

Torticolliskids/ There is also

the stretching document in the files here to show how to do the

stretches. Local Early Intervention can help with tort. therapy also

at low cost or no cost to parents if physical therapy is needed.

Talk with you soon.

CAROLG

>

> My grandson is from St. , Minnesota...is now wearing the

> Gillette CranioCap and has been since mid November - he was 10-1/2

> months old when he went into it...a little bit old...but, he has

mild

> plagio and hopefully this will help round out his noggin. His ped.

> said - 'oh, it will take care of itself', but his father wanted to

> pursue the helmet just to be sure. Guess he is scheduled to wear

it

> until at least mid Feb. We shall see at that time...

>

> Last week I called another place, Winkley Orthotics next to

> Minneapolis Childrens Hospital to see if the CranioCap does not do

> the job would they consider banding him with a Star or Doc

> Band...they told me that they do not band any child with assyemtry

> under 1.2 cm.or 10 mm - and that the Cranio Cap will do the same

job

> as the Star Band...also said that a lot of times the mild cases do

> round themselves out, and as he ages it will continue to correct (I

> hope they are right). So, when this helmet comes off...guess he is

> done with treatment! Also told me to have them check him for

> Torticollis as that goes hand in hand with plagio most of the

time.

> Said that most Dr.s are really uninformed about all this and they

are

> seeing more and more of the plagio from the back to sleep campaign

> and also children in daycare. Day care providers by law have to

have

> a worker one on one with each child if they are on their stomach,

and

> so most of the time they just keep them in bouncy seats, etc. so

> they do not get the tummy time needed. Can also be caused by many

> other reasons...ie. position during gestation, in the birth canal,

> mother having a small pelvis, and of course the tight neck

muscles.

> Well, this got long, but that is the info thay passed onto

me..maybe

> some of this will help you.

>

>

> I have posted in the past, and gotten good info and several

> connections to moms in Mn. see post...back in November...from

> PhyllisInCincy if you want to check more of our story.

>

> Grandma Phyllis in Cincinnati...KM - Grandson in Minnesota...Mild

> Plagio - CranioCap November 2005 - age..will be 1 year end of Jan.

>

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I don't know why they told me they do not band unless the asymmetry is greater

than 10mm - when I said that he had mild plagio and if the craniocap did not do

the job would they consider a band for him that is what she told me. She said

they measure the rt frontal to the left post lateral, then again the lt frontal

to the rt post lateral..perhaps that gives a different measurement..I am not

sure or even what these measurement mean. She just said it was imperative that

he wear the helmel 23 of the 24 hours a day and to be consistent...and that when

it got to feb and Gillette says ok - then he would be finished as far as they

are concerned too. She said no reason to bring him in to see them. She also

said that most mild cases do correct - but I wonder how good the correction is??

and that he will continue to correct as he ages. I am not much help. I have

limited knowledge on this subject...just passing on what I was trying to learn.

> >

> > My grandson is from St. , Minnesota...is now wearing the

> > Gillette CranioCap and has been since mid November - he was 10-1/2

> > months old when he went into it...a little bit old...but, he has

> mild

> > plagio and hopefully this will help round out his noggin. His ped.

> > said - 'oh, it will take care of itself', but his father wanted to

> > pursue the helmet just to be sure. Guess he is scheduled to wear

> it

> > until at least mid Feb. We shall see at that time...

> >

> > Last week I called another place, Winkley Orthotics next to

> > Minneapolis Childrens Hospital to see if the CranioCap does not do

> > the job would they consider banding him with a Star or Doc

> > Band...they told me that they do not band any child with assyemtry

> > under 1.2 cm.or 10 mm - and that the Cranio Cap will do the same

> job

> > as the Star Band...also said that a lot of times the mild cases do

> > round themselves out, and as he ages it will continue to correct (I

> > hope they are right). So, when this helmet comes off...guess he is

> > done with treatment! Also told me to have them check him for

> > Torticollis as that goes hand in hand with plagio most of the

> time.

> > Said that most Dr.s are really uninformed about all this and they

> are

> > seeing more and more of the plagio from the back to sleep campaign

> > and also children in daycare. Day care providers by law have to

> have

> > a worker one on one with each child if they are on their stomach,

> and

> > so most of the time they just keep them in bouncy seats, etc. so

> > they do not get the tummy time needed. Can also be caused by many

> > other reasons...ie. position during gestation, in the birth canal,

> > mother having a small pelvis, and of course the tight neck

> muscles.

> > Well, this got long, but that is the info thay passed onto

> me..maybe

> > some of this will help you.

> >

> >

> > I have posted in the past, and gotten good info and several

> > connections to moms in Mn. see post...back in November...from

> > PhyllisInCincy if you want to check more of our story.

> >

> > Grandma Phyllis in Cincinnati...KM - Grandson in Minnesota...Mild

> > Plagio - CranioCap November 2005 - age..will be 1 year end of Jan.

> >

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I don't know why they told me they do not band unless the asymmetry is greater

than 10mm - when I said that he had mild plagio and if the craniocap did not do

the job would they consider a band for him that is what she told me. She said

they measure the rt frontal to the left post lateral, then again the lt frontal

to the rt post lateral..perhaps that gives a different measurement..I am not

sure or even what these measurement mean. She just said it was imperative that

he wear the helmel 23 of the 24 hours a day and to be consistent...and that when

it got to feb and Gillette says ok - then he would be finished as far as they

are concerned too. She said no reason to bring him in to see them. She also

said that most mild cases do correct - but I wonder how good the correction is??

and that he will continue to correct as he ages. I am not much help. I have

limited knowledge on this subject...just passing on what I was trying to learn.

> >

> > My grandson is from St. , Minnesota...is now wearing the

> > Gillette CranioCap and has been since mid November - he was 10-1/2

> > months old when he went into it...a little bit old...but, he has

> mild

> > plagio and hopefully this will help round out his noggin. His ped.

> > said - 'oh, it will take care of itself', but his father wanted to

> > pursue the helmet just to be sure. Guess he is scheduled to wear

> it

> > until at least mid Feb. We shall see at that time...

> >

> > Last week I called another place, Winkley Orthotics next to

> > Minneapolis Childrens Hospital to see if the CranioCap does not do

> > the job would they consider banding him with a Star or Doc

> > Band...they told me that they do not band any child with assyemtry

> > under 1.2 cm.or 10 mm - and that the Cranio Cap will do the same

> job

> > as the Star Band...also said that a lot of times the mild cases do

> > round themselves out, and as he ages it will continue to correct (I

> > hope they are right). So, when this helmet comes off...guess he is

> > done with treatment! Also told me to have them check him for

> > Torticollis as that goes hand in hand with plagio most of the

> time.

> > Said that most Dr.s are really uninformed about all this and they

> are

> > seeing more and more of the plagio from the back to sleep campaign

> > and also children in daycare. Day care providers by law have to

> have

> > a worker one on one with each child if they are on their stomach,

> and

> > so most of the time they just keep them in bouncy seats, etc. so

> > they do not get the tummy time needed. Can also be caused by many

> > other reasons...ie. position during gestation, in the birth canal,

> > mother having a small pelvis, and of course the tight neck

> muscles.

> > Well, this got long, but that is the info thay passed onto

> me..maybe

> > some of this will help you.

> >

> >

> > I have posted in the past, and gotten good info and several

> > connections to moms in Mn. see post...back in November...from

> > PhyllisInCincy if you want to check more of our story.

> >

> > Grandma Phyllis in Cincinnati...KM - Grandson in Minnesota...Mild

> > Plagio - CranioCap November 2005 - age..will be 1 year end of Jan.

> >

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Have they not checked him for torticollis yet?? I would think they

would have done that when they put him in the cranio cap?? As for

rounding out post grad .. my daughter got 1 extra mm of correction in

her ear and cranial vault asymmetries. She graduated at 8 1/2

months. We just remeasured ehr at 30 months.

If you are not happy with the results or his parents aren't there are

orthos who will band more mild cases (~6 mm+ versus the 10 mm). 10

mm is usually considered moderate and some of the milder cases

warrant banding.

Kiersten, 8 months, DOC Band 1/10/06, Tort

na, 2 1/2 yrs, DOC Grad Feb 04, Tort Resolved

www.thefilyaws.com

>

> My grandson is from St. , Minnesota...is now wearing the

> Gillette CranioCap and has been since mid November - he was 10-1/2

> months old when he went into it...a little bit old...but, he has

mild

> plagio and hopefully this will help round out his noggin. His ped.

> said - 'oh, it will take care of itself', but his father wanted to

> pursue the helmet just to be sure. Guess he is scheduled to wear

it

> until at least mid Feb. We shall see at that time...

>

> Last week I called another place, Winkley Orthotics next to

> Minneapolis Childrens Hospital to see if the CranioCap does not do

> the job would they consider banding him with a Star or Doc

> Band...they told me that they do not band any child with assyemtry

> under 1.2 cm.or 10 mm - and that the Cranio Cap will do the same

job

> as the Star Band...also said that a lot of times the mild cases do

> round themselves out, and as he ages it will continue to correct (I

> hope they are right). So, when this helmet comes off...guess he is

> done with treatment! Also told me to have them check him for

> Torticollis as that goes hand in hand with plagio most of the

time.

> Said that most Dr.s are really uninformed about all this and they

are

> seeing more and more of the plagio from the back to sleep campaign

> and also children in daycare. Day care providers by law have to

have

> a worker one on one with each child if they are on their stomach,

and

> so most of the time they just keep them in bouncy seats, etc. so

> they do not get the tummy time needed. Can also be caused by many

> other reasons...ie. position during gestation, in the birth canal,

> mother having a small pelvis, and of course the tight neck

muscles.

> Well, this got long, but that is the info thay passed onto

me..maybe

> some of this will help you.

>

>

> I have posted in the past, and gotten good info and several

> connections to moms in Mn. see post...back in November...from

> PhyllisInCincy if you want to check more of our story.

>

> Grandma Phyllis in Cincinnati...KM - Grandson in Minnesota...Mild

> Plagio - CranioCap November 2005 - age..will be 1 year end of Jan.

>

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Have they not checked him for torticollis yet?? I would think they

would have done that when they put him in the cranio cap?? As for

rounding out post grad .. my daughter got 1 extra mm of correction in

her ear and cranial vault asymmetries. She graduated at 8 1/2

months. We just remeasured ehr at 30 months.

If you are not happy with the results or his parents aren't there are

orthos who will band more mild cases (~6 mm+ versus the 10 mm). 10

mm is usually considered moderate and some of the milder cases

warrant banding.

Kiersten, 8 months, DOC Band 1/10/06, Tort

na, 2 1/2 yrs, DOC Grad Feb 04, Tort Resolved

www.thefilyaws.com

>

> My grandson is from St. , Minnesota...is now wearing the

> Gillette CranioCap and has been since mid November - he was 10-1/2

> months old when he went into it...a little bit old...but, he has

mild

> plagio and hopefully this will help round out his noggin. His ped.

> said - 'oh, it will take care of itself', but his father wanted to

> pursue the helmet just to be sure. Guess he is scheduled to wear

it

> until at least mid Feb. We shall see at that time...

>

> Last week I called another place, Winkley Orthotics next to

> Minneapolis Childrens Hospital to see if the CranioCap does not do

> the job would they consider banding him with a Star or Doc

> Band...they told me that they do not band any child with assyemtry

> under 1.2 cm.or 10 mm - and that the Cranio Cap will do the same

job

> as the Star Band...also said that a lot of times the mild cases do

> round themselves out, and as he ages it will continue to correct (I

> hope they are right). So, when this helmet comes off...guess he is

> done with treatment! Also told me to have them check him for

> Torticollis as that goes hand in hand with plagio most of the

time.

> Said that most Dr.s are really uninformed about all this and they

are

> seeing more and more of the plagio from the back to sleep campaign

> and also children in daycare. Day care providers by law have to

have

> a worker one on one with each child if they are on their stomach,

and

> so most of the time they just keep them in bouncy seats, etc. so

> they do not get the tummy time needed. Can also be caused by many

> other reasons...ie. position during gestation, in the birth canal,

> mother having a small pelvis, and of course the tight neck

muscles.

> Well, this got long, but that is the info thay passed onto

me..maybe

> some of this will help you.

>

>

> I have posted in the past, and gotten good info and several

> connections to moms in Mn. see post...back in November...from

> PhyllisInCincy if you want to check more of our story.

>

> Grandma Phyllis in Cincinnati...KM - Grandson in Minnesota...Mild

> Plagio - CranioCap November 2005 - age..will be 1 year end of Jan.

>

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Phyllis,

Thank you so much for answering me. That is just so odd, I wonder why

they feel that way? Maybe it's one of those, I'll support you if you

support me sort of things between the clinics,lol. I run into that

with doctors sometimes...makes me so mad. I know that Dominick has

definitely had some post band rounding already(yippie), he has been

out since Sept., and even though it looks a bit better in some areas

it was not enough to change his final measurements yet, but I can

hope. Your grandson is a bit younger than Dom, so maybe he will get

even more post band. Does Gillette do measurements for the parents,

so you can have beginning and ending numbers to help? You can look in

the files here for the anthropometric measurements and it will help

you understand the way they measure heads. I collect alot of the

studies so if there is a particular study that you are looking for,

feel free to ask if I have something on it, if I do I will share.

Don't say you are not much help, it is by sharing all our info. and

asking questions that we all learn. So what about the tort, was that

a concern or just something they mentioned?

CAROLG

> > >

> > > My grandson is from St. , Minnesota...is now wearing the

> > > Gillette CranioCap and has been since mid November - he was 10-

1/2

> > > months old when he went into it...a little bit old...but, he

has

> > mild

> > > plagio and hopefully this will help round out his noggin. His

ped.

> > > said - 'oh, it will take care of itself', but his father wanted

to

> > > pursue the helmet just to be sure. Guess he is scheduled to

wear

> > it

> > > until at least mid Feb. We shall see at that time...

> > >

> > > Last week I called another place, Winkley Orthotics next to

> > > Minneapolis Childrens Hospital to see if the CranioCap does not

do

> > > the job would they consider banding him with a Star or Doc

> > > Band...they told me that they do not band any child with

assyemtry

> > > under 1.2 cm.or 10 mm - and that the Cranio Cap will do the

same

> > job

> > > as the Star Band...also said that a lot of times the mild cases

do

> > > round themselves out, and as he ages it will continue to

correct (I

> > > hope they are right). So, when this helmet comes off...guess he

is

> > > done with treatment! Also told me to have them check him for

> > > Torticollis as that goes hand in hand with plagio most of the

> > time.

> > > Said that most Dr.s are really uninformed about all this and

they

> > are

> > > seeing more and more of the plagio from the back to sleep

campaign

> > > and also children in daycare. Day care providers by law have to

> > have

> > > a worker one on one with each child if they are on their

stomach,

> > and

> > > so most of the time they just keep them in bouncy seats, etc.

so

> > > they do not get the tummy time needed. Can also be caused by

many

> > > other reasons...ie. position during gestation, in the birth

canal,

> > > mother having a small pelvis, and of course the tight neck

> > muscles.

> > > Well, this got long, but that is the info thay passed onto

> > me..maybe

> > > some of this will help you.

> > >

> > >

> > > I have posted in the past, and gotten good info and several

> > > connections to moms in Mn. see post...back in November...from

> > > PhyllisInCincy if you want to check more of our story.

> > >

> > > Grandma Phyllis in Cincinnati...KM - Grandson in

Minnesota...Mild

> > > Plagio - CranioCap November 2005 - age..will be 1 year end of

Jan.

> > >

> >

>

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Phyllis,

Thank you so much for answering me. That is just so odd, I wonder why

they feel that way? Maybe it's one of those, I'll support you if you

support me sort of things between the clinics,lol. I run into that

with doctors sometimes...makes me so mad. I know that Dominick has

definitely had some post band rounding already(yippie), he has been

out since Sept., and even though it looks a bit better in some areas

it was not enough to change his final measurements yet, but I can

hope. Your grandson is a bit younger than Dom, so maybe he will get

even more post band. Does Gillette do measurements for the parents,

so you can have beginning and ending numbers to help? You can look in

the files here for the anthropometric measurements and it will help

you understand the way they measure heads. I collect alot of the

studies so if there is a particular study that you are looking for,

feel free to ask if I have something on it, if I do I will share.

Don't say you are not much help, it is by sharing all our info. and

asking questions that we all learn. So what about the tort, was that

a concern or just something they mentioned?

CAROLG

> > >

> > > My grandson is from St. , Minnesota...is now wearing the

> > > Gillette CranioCap and has been since mid November - he was 10-

1/2

> > > months old when he went into it...a little bit old...but, he

has

> > mild

> > > plagio and hopefully this will help round out his noggin. His

ped.

> > > said - 'oh, it will take care of itself', but his father wanted

to

> > > pursue the helmet just to be sure. Guess he is scheduled to

wear

> > it

> > > until at least mid Feb. We shall see at that time...

> > >

> > > Last week I called another place, Winkley Orthotics next to

> > > Minneapolis Childrens Hospital to see if the CranioCap does not

do

> > > the job would they consider banding him with a Star or Doc

> > > Band...they told me that they do not band any child with

assyemtry

> > > under 1.2 cm.or 10 mm - and that the Cranio Cap will do the

same

> > job

> > > as the Star Band...also said that a lot of times the mild cases

do

> > > round themselves out, and as he ages it will continue to

correct (I

> > > hope they are right). So, when this helmet comes off...guess he

is

> > > done with treatment! Also told me to have them check him for

> > > Torticollis as that goes hand in hand with plagio most of the

> > time.

> > > Said that most Dr.s are really uninformed about all this and

they

> > are

> > > seeing more and more of the plagio from the back to sleep

campaign

> > > and also children in daycare. Day care providers by law have to

> > have

> > > a worker one on one with each child if they are on their

stomach,

> > and

> > > so most of the time they just keep them in bouncy seats, etc.

so

> > > they do not get the tummy time needed. Can also be caused by

many

> > > other reasons...ie. position during gestation, in the birth

canal,

> > > mother having a small pelvis, and of course the tight neck

> > muscles.

> > > Well, this got long, but that is the info thay passed onto

> > me..maybe

> > > some of this will help you.

> > >

> > >

> > > I have posted in the past, and gotten good info and several

> > > connections to moms in Mn. see post...back in November...from

> > > PhyllisInCincy if you want to check more of our story.

> > >

> > > Grandma Phyllis in Cincinnati...KM - Grandson in

Minnesota...Mild

> > > Plagio - CranioCap November 2005 - age..will be 1 year end of

Jan.

> > >

> >

>

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