Michele - Re: LID Question - butter?

[Guest guest]

Perhaps. One of the frustrating things about thyca is that there are

SO many conflicting ideas and methods of doing things.

Dr Lee spoke at the conference, and she now allows her

patients to have a LOT of things that are not on the Thyca LID. And

there are LIDs that even allow milk and other dairy products in small

quantities. Some attempt to give you a list (really not very

effective) of iodine contents of different items and let you choose

whatever you want as long as you stick to about 50mcg. I suppose it's

a matter of how strict you want to be. When I give advice on the LID,

I'd rather err on the side of following it too strictly.

Certainly, there's a difference between using a half tsp of that

margerine once a day vs putting it on all sorts of things all day

long, or using a cup of it to make a cake that you eat that day :-).

Keep in mind that LOTS of things that are listed on the LID do have

iodine in varying amounts, so even that's not a no iodine diet.

Actually, the problem with soy is not just that it can contain iodine,

but that it blocks the uptake of iodine - so can block the uptake of

RAI. I tried to be pretty strict on the LID, figuring that it's only

for a few weeks, and I'd rather have as much uptake as possible.

In any case, if I was going to have things that were questionable, I'd

at least avoid them the last 4 days or so before the dose.

Cheers,

Alisa (still smiling at the " government bureaucrat emerging " comment)

2/15/2002: Nodule found 2/27/2002: FNA

3/4/2002: Hysterectomy/oopherectomy-possible ovarian cancer - BENIGN!!

4/9/2002: TT - Stage 2 pap 2.5 x 2 x 1.6 cm nodule, dx Hashimotos

5/28/2002: TBS and 100 mCi RAI 6/6/2002: TBS - No sign of mets

Currently - TSH 0.06, 140mcg Levoxyl

Age: 48 Location: near Seattle WA

Please feel free to email me privately anytime

Check out my posts:

Radioactive Girl - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Thyca/message/19472

My LID - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Thyca/message/15872

My RAI - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Thyca/message/15873

> Alisa/:

>

> I thought LID stood for " low iodine diet " , not NID (no iodine diet).

We are talking here about a 2lb container of margarine, in which the

amount of the prohibitive substance (I know that sounds a little to

dramatic, but at 7:00 am in the morning and just having awaken I

cannot think of a more gentler phrase. Maybe its the government

bureaucrat emerging at this early hour.) is less than 1% (in fact

..02%) of the total contents. Are we not going a bit overboard?

>

> Yawn, Jim

[Guest guest]

Thanks Alisa and . I am entering what I hope will be will be my last week

before my ablation on October 28, 2002. I have been trying to follow a LID for

the past two weeks, so this coming week will give me three weeks in total on the

LID. With any luck I won't have consumed any amount of iodine (I have been

totally of milk and milk/dairy products, have had no seafood and have had no

salt) that will make a difference in the uptake of the RAI.

Cheers, Jim

Michele - Re: LID Question - butter?

Perhaps. One of the frustrating things about thyca is that there are

SO many conflicting ideas and methods of doing things.

Dr Lee spoke at the conference, and she now allows her

patients to have a LOT of things that are not on the Thyca LID. And

there are LIDs that even allow milk and other dairy products in small

quantities. Some attempt to give you a list (really not very

effective) of iodine contents of different items and let you choose

whatever you want as long as you stick to about 50mcg. I suppose it's

a matter of how strict you want to be. When I give advice on the LID,

I'd rather err on the side of following it too strictly.

Certainly, there's a difference between using a half tsp of that

margerine once a day vs putting it on all sorts of things all day

long, or using a cup of it to make a cake that you eat that day :-).

Keep in mind that LOTS of things that are listed on the LID do have

iodine in varying amounts, so even that's not a no iodine diet.

Actually, the problem with soy is not just that it can contain iodine,

but that it blocks the uptake of iodine - so can block the uptake of

RAI. I tried to be pretty strict on the LID, figuring that it's only

for a few weeks, and I'd rather have as much uptake as possible.

In any case, if I was going to have things that were questionable, I'd

at least avoid them the last 4 days or so before the dose.

Cheers,

Alisa (still smiling at the " government bureaucrat emerging " comment)

2/15/2002: Nodule found 2/27/2002: FNA

3/4/2002: Hysterectomy/oopherectomy-possible ovarian cancer - BENIGN!!

4/9/2002: TT - Stage 2 pap 2.5 x 2 x 1.6 cm nodule, dx Hashimotos

5/28/2002: TBS and 100 mCi RAI 6/6/2002: TBS - No sign of mets

Currently - TSH 0.06, 140mcg Levoxyl

Age: 48 Location: near Seattle WA

Please feel free to email me privately anytime

Check out my posts:

Radioactive Girl - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Thyca/message/19472

My LID - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Thyca/message/15872

My RAI - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Thyca/message/15873

> Alisa/:

>

> I thought LID stood for " low iodine diet " , not NID (no iodine diet).

We are talking here about a 2lb container of margarine, in which the

amount of the prohibitive substance (I know that sounds a little to

dramatic, but at 7:00 am in the morning and just having awaken I

cannot think of a more gentler phrase. Maybe its the government

bureaucrat emerging at this early hour.) is less than 1% (in fact

.02%) of the total contents. Are we not going a bit overboard?

>

> Yawn, Jim

[Guest guest]

Hi all, I just couldn't resist this opportunity to tell you about my butter

substitute experience.

I have just savored a most wonderful late breakfast today. Part of the

pleasure came from baking two loaves of bread again, after years of not

doing so because I have what I consider not to be a bread-baking-kitchen.

Well, in view of my cravings for carbohydrates and so I don't just eat sweet

potatoes every day, I filled my bread with nuts, prunes, ground flax seeds,

golden raisins, soft dried cranberries, cinnamon and - you'd never guess -

oregano. It's made with spelt flour, organic shortening and olive oil, and

water - because I forgot about the coconut milk or the Yu Beverage sitting

on the shelf.

I enjoyed every little bit of the preparation this Sunday morning, and

finally sat down with a cup of coffee doused with coconut milk - not like

usual, but a thoroughly enjoyable drink; I don't even pretend that it's

coffee.

So I sat down with my plate of warm bread slices, and olive oil and

loganberry jam and organic apple butter. I passed on the olive oil, and

loved the bread all on its own. I guess there was enough flavor inside along

with the oily stuff. And my hypo self is so pleased.

I added all that stuff to a recipe for a Two-Hour Sweet Bread - oh yes, I

forgot to mention the sugar and honey inside. In conclusion, I think this

bread will go with most anything, at least I'll try it that way. I had to

force myself to eat an apple to stop my binge on the bread.

So, I think I put the substitutes for butter inside and I recommend it.

--

Reclaiming myself, insha'allah,

Munira,

CHILDHOOD RADIATION from face to chest

3/15/02 PET SCAN neg for breast cancer mets - showed thyroid

5/31/02 ULTRASOUND - 10mmX9mmX7mm left nodule

6/7/02 ULTRASOUND FNA pap?

8/2/02 TT papillary, 1cm, in left and isthmus & much inflammatory tissue

from radiation = 5 hr surgery; 1 parathyroid and benign lymph node removed

Reply-To: Thyca

Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 16:58:15 -0400

To: Thyca

Subject: Re: Michele - Re: LID Question - butter?

Thanks Alisa and . I am entering what I hope will be will be my last

week before my ablation on October 28, 2002. I have been trying to follow a

LID for the past two weeks, so this coming week will give me three weeks in

total on the LID. With any luck I won't have consumed any amount of iodine

(I have been totally of milk and milk/dairy products, have had no seafood

and have had no salt) that will make a difference in the uptake of the RAI.

Cheers, Jim

Michele - Re: LID Question - butter?

Perhaps. One of the frustrating things about thyca is that there are

SO many conflicting ideas and methods of doing things.

Dr Lee spoke at the conference, and she now allows her

patients to have a LOT of things that are not on the Thyca LID. And

there are LIDs that even allow milk and other dairy products in small

quantities. Some attempt to give you a list (really not very

effective) of iodine contents of different items and let you choose

whatever you want as long as you stick to about 50mcg. I suppose it's

a matter of how strict you want to be. When I give advice on the LID,

I'd rather err on the side of following it too strictly.

Certainly, there's a difference between using a half tsp of that

margerine once a day vs putting it on all sorts of things all day

long, or using a cup of it to make a cake that you eat that day :-).

Keep in mind that LOTS of things that are listed on the LID do have

iodine in varying amounts, so even that's not a no iodine diet.

Actually, the problem with soy is not just that it can contain iodine,

but that it blocks the uptake of iodine - so can block the uptake of

RAI. I tried to be pretty strict on the LID, figuring that it's only

for a few weeks, and I'd rather have as much uptake as possible.

In any case, if I was going to have things that were questionable, I'd

at least avoid them the last 4 days or so before the dose.

Cheers,

Alisa (still smiling at the " government bureaucrat emerging " comment)

2/15/2002: Nodule found 2/27/2002: FNA

3/4/2002: Hysterectomy/oopherectomy-possible ovarian cancer - BENIGN!!

4/9/2002: TT - Stage 2 pap 2.5 x 2 x 1.6 cm nodule, dx Hashimotos

5/28/2002: TBS and 100 mCi RAI 6/6/2002: TBS - No sign of mets

Currently - TSH 0.06, 140mcg Levoxyl

Age: 48 Location: near Seattle WA

Please feel free to email me privately anytime

Check out my posts:

Radioactive Girl - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Thyca/message/19472

My LID - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Thyca/message/15872

My RAI - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Thyca/message/15873

> Alisa/:

>

> I thought LID stood for " low iodine diet " , not NID (no iodine diet).

We are talking here about a 2lb container of margarine, in which the

amount of the prohibitive substance (I know that sounds a little to

dramatic, but at 7:00 am in the morning and just having awaken I

cannot think of a more gentler phrase. Maybe its the government

bureaucrat emerging at this early hour.) is less than 1% (in fact

.02%) of the total contents. Are we not going a bit overboard?

>

> Yawn, Jim