Re: Digest Number 1053

[Guest guest]

Vicki,

I hope I am not butting in, but I totally understand your frustration, and

I have also tried all the medicines that are " supposed " to work and help

the fibro pain. Please forgive my crudeness, but unless you have a mild

case, they are just crap. From past experiences with pain, I know what

works, but because of the DEA and their misguided war on drugs, getting

adequate pain treatment has turned into the impossible dream. Instead of

keeping drugs off the street, all they have succeeded at doing is keeping

the drugs from legitimate pain patients. I can't count the # of doctors I

have seen that said the same as yours, lose weight and exercise and learn

to live with it! Did the real, or as the doctors say, " addicting " pain

medications help you at all? Doctors are grossly ignorant in pain

treatment and it has to change!

I went along with it way too long until one morning as I sat on the edge of

my bed crying because it hurt too much to lie back down, and it hurt to

much to get up, the pain congealed into anger, and I just decided I had

enough, I couldn't live that way any more. I did a massive web search and

found a group that is of the same mind-set, pain does not have to be

tolerated. The truth of the matter is that the only class of drugs to

treat severe pain, besides the relatively useless OTC stuff, are

narcotics. They have relieved pain for centuries, have a well proven track

record, and with rare exceptions are very safe, most of the side affects

are merely nuisances, and disappear a short time after treatment begins. No

one wants to become an " addict " , but statistics will back it up... physical

dependence happens with many drugs, from blood pressure medications,

anti-depressants, insulin, and on and on, but no one considers one an

addict for talking them. Physical dependance is NOT the same as

addiction! Narcotics also cause physical dependence, but less than 1% of

legitimate pain patients ever become addicted. An addict seeks a drug to

get high and escape from life, a pain patient seeks freedom from pain to

get back into life. I go on because it took a lot of convincing for me to

get over the stereotype and finally find REAL pain relief. The American

Society for Action on Pain (ASAP) has a group on Yahoo very similar to this

one, and here is the link: http://www.asappain.com/discussion.htm

They also have a web site full of info, and their motto is " We seek opiate

medication in Adequate and Ongoing Amounts for All Americans who Suffer in

Chronic Pain " . There is a lot of advice on how to become your own best

advocate, and if you seek a doctor in your area that will treat chronic

pain appropriately, they will try to help you locate one. I have just

recently found a good doctor who is working with me to get my pain managed,

and for the first time in too many years I can function again. I cannot

even begin to tell you the difference it has made! My family was very

worried and skeptical, but once they were able to see the effects, they

quickly changed their opinion. The first week or so took some adjustment,

but ironically, I don't feel drugged or spacey like I did on the other junk

I was taking that did nothing for the pain, and had a list of side effects

that were beyond scary! I must sound like a drug pusher, LOL, but having

experienced pain like that I think it is ridiculous and cruel that others

have been brainwashed to believe their only option is to live with it. It

is NOT true! It may not be easy to find, but real help is out there, and

well worth the trouble to locate. Good luck

Char

PS

Sorry this is so long!

>Subject: Re: Digest Number 1049

>

>,

> They have treid a few meds for pain, but they all make me very itchy.

>The dr said it is probably an allergic reaction. The ones who will even try

>the pain meds will only give them to me for a few days. They all say

>narcotics are too adicting. I have tried all the anti--depressants, and even

>muscle relaxants that are supposed to work for fibro and none work for

>me...all they do is give me bad side effects and dont help the pain anyways.

>I have been to about 15 diffrrerent Dr's and they are all the same. Tell me

>to loose weight and start an aerobic exercise program. I mean really..I can

>barely walk..and they want me to jog everday. I have also found out that my

>estrogen level is really low...lower than that of a menopausal women, even

>though I am only 27. None of the Drs can seems to explain this or even seem

>to care to try. It is not common with the polycystic ovarain syndrome so now

>I wonder if they even have the right diagnosis. I have also tried to take my

>husband along on appts and it seems that has the opposite feect

>sometimes....sometime they act like I must be some kind of baby to have to

>bring him with. We have not had much luck with good Dr's. We have driven up

>to 3 hours to try to find better Dr's even, with no luck tthere either. The

>rheumy we went to was the worst.....he told me " You have pain, live with it

>and go back to work. It wil never get any better " He was a total jerk. We

>are just sooo frustarted because i have soo many thing going on in my body

>right now. They cant figure out this hormone problem and no one even really

>seems to care. I am just sooo frustrated, but thanks a lot for trying to

>help, but most of all for understanding and responding ot my email. I

>really appreciate it. =)

>

>Vicki

[Guest guest]

Vicki,

I hope I am not butting in, but I totally understand your frustration, and

I have also tried all the medicines that are " supposed " to work and help

the fibro pain. Please forgive my crudeness, but unless you have a mild

case, they are just crap. From past experiences with pain, I know what

works, but because of the DEA and their misguided war on drugs, getting

adequate pain treatment has turned into the impossible dream. Instead of

keeping drugs off the street, all they have succeeded at doing is keeping

the drugs from legitimate pain patients. I can't count the # of doctors I

have seen that said the same as yours, lose weight and exercise and learn

to live with it! Did the real, or as the doctors say, " addicting " pain

medications help you at all? Doctors are grossly ignorant in pain

treatment and it has to change!

I went along with it way too long until one morning as I sat on the edge of

my bed crying because it hurt too much to lie back down, and it hurt to

much to get up, the pain congealed into anger, and I just decided I had

enough, I couldn't live that way any more. I did a massive web search and

found a group that is of the same mind-set, pain does not have to be

tolerated. The truth of the matter is that the only class of drugs to

treat severe pain, besides the relatively useless OTC stuff, are

narcotics. They have relieved pain for centuries, have a well proven track

record, and with rare exceptions are very safe, most of the side affects

are merely nuisances, and disappear a short time after treatment begins. No

one wants to become an " addict " , but statistics will back it up... physical

dependence happens with many drugs, from blood pressure medications,

anti-depressants, insulin, and on and on, but no one considers one an

addict for talking them. Physical dependance is NOT the same as

addiction! Narcotics also cause physical dependence, but less than 1% of

legitimate pain patients ever become addicted. An addict seeks a drug to

get high and escape from life, a pain patient seeks freedom from pain to

get back into life. I go on because it took a lot of convincing for me to

get over the stereotype and finally find REAL pain relief. The American

Society for Action on Pain (ASAP) has a group on Yahoo very similar to this

one, and here is the link: http://www.asappain.com/discussion.htm

They also have a web site full of info, and their motto is " We seek opiate

medication in Adequate and Ongoing Amounts for All Americans who Suffer in

Chronic Pain " . There is a lot of advice on how to become your own best

advocate, and if you seek a doctor in your area that will treat chronic

pain appropriately, they will try to help you locate one. I have just

recently found a good doctor who is working with me to get my pain managed,

and for the first time in too many years I can function again. I cannot

even begin to tell you the difference it has made! My family was very

worried and skeptical, but once they were able to see the effects, they

quickly changed their opinion. The first week or so took some adjustment,

but ironically, I don't feel drugged or spacey like I did on the other junk

I was taking that did nothing for the pain, and had a list of side effects

that were beyond scary! I must sound like a drug pusher, LOL, but having

experienced pain like that I think it is ridiculous and cruel that others

have been brainwashed to believe their only option is to live with it. It

is NOT true! It may not be easy to find, but real help is out there, and

well worth the trouble to locate. Good luck

Char

PS

Sorry this is so long!

>Subject: Re: Digest Number 1049

>

>,

> They have treid a few meds for pain, but they all make me very itchy.

>The dr said it is probably an allergic reaction. The ones who will even try

>the pain meds will only give them to me for a few days. They all say

>narcotics are too adicting. I have tried all the anti--depressants, and even

>muscle relaxants that are supposed to work for fibro and none work for

>me...all they do is give me bad side effects and dont help the pain anyways.

>I have been to about 15 diffrrerent Dr's and they are all the same. Tell me

>to loose weight and start an aerobic exercise program. I mean really..I can

>barely walk..and they want me to jog everday. I have also found out that my

>estrogen level is really low...lower than that of a menopausal women, even

>though I am only 27. None of the Drs can seems to explain this or even seem

>to care to try. It is not common with the polycystic ovarain syndrome so now

>I wonder if they even have the right diagnosis. I have also tried to take my

>husband along on appts and it seems that has the opposite feect

>sometimes....sometime they act like I must be some kind of baby to have to

>bring him with. We have not had much luck with good Dr's. We have driven up

>to 3 hours to try to find better Dr's even, with no luck tthere either. The

>rheumy we went to was the worst.....he told me " You have pain, live with it

>and go back to work. It wil never get any better " He was a total jerk. We

>are just sooo frustarted because i have soo many thing going on in my body

>right now. They cant figure out this hormone problem and no one even really

>seems to care. I am just sooo frustrated, but thanks a lot for trying to

>help, but most of all for understanding and responding ot my email. I

>really appreciate it. =)

>

>Vicki

[Guest guest]

Vicki,

I hope I am not butting in, but I totally understand your frustration, and

I have also tried all the medicines that are " supposed " to work and help

the fibro pain. Please forgive my crudeness, but unless you have a mild

case, they are just crap. From past experiences with pain, I know what

works, but because of the DEA and their misguided war on drugs, getting

adequate pain treatment has turned into the impossible dream. Instead of

keeping drugs off the street, all they have succeeded at doing is keeping

the drugs from legitimate pain patients. I can't count the # of doctors I

have seen that said the same as yours, lose weight and exercise and learn

to live with it! Did the real, or as the doctors say, " addicting " pain

medications help you at all? Doctors are grossly ignorant in pain

treatment and it has to change!

I went along with it way too long until one morning as I sat on the edge of

my bed crying because it hurt too much to lie back down, and it hurt to

much to get up, the pain congealed into anger, and I just decided I had

enough, I couldn't live that way any more. I did a massive web search and

found a group that is of the same mind-set, pain does not have to be

tolerated. The truth of the matter is that the only class of drugs to

treat severe pain, besides the relatively useless OTC stuff, are

narcotics. They have relieved pain for centuries, have a well proven track

record, and with rare exceptions are very safe, most of the side affects

are merely nuisances, and disappear a short time after treatment begins. No

one wants to become an " addict " , but statistics will back it up... physical

dependence happens with many drugs, from blood pressure medications,

anti-depressants, insulin, and on and on, but no one considers one an

addict for talking them. Physical dependance is NOT the same as

addiction! Narcotics also cause physical dependence, but less than 1% of

legitimate pain patients ever become addicted. An addict seeks a drug to

get high and escape from life, a pain patient seeks freedom from pain to

get back into life. I go on because it took a lot of convincing for me to

get over the stereotype and finally find REAL pain relief. The American

Society for Action on Pain (ASAP) has a group on Yahoo very similar to this

one, and here is the link: http://www.asappain.com/discussion.htm

They also have a web site full of info, and their motto is " We seek opiate

medication in Adequate and Ongoing Amounts for All Americans who Suffer in

Chronic Pain " . There is a lot of advice on how to become your own best

advocate, and if you seek a doctor in your area that will treat chronic

pain appropriately, they will try to help you locate one. I have just

recently found a good doctor who is working with me to get my pain managed,

and for the first time in too many years I can function again. I cannot

even begin to tell you the difference it has made! My family was very

worried and skeptical, but once they were able to see the effects, they

quickly changed their opinion. The first week or so took some adjustment,

but ironically, I don't feel drugged or spacey like I did on the other junk

I was taking that did nothing for the pain, and had a list of side effects

that were beyond scary! I must sound like a drug pusher, LOL, but having

experienced pain like that I think it is ridiculous and cruel that others

have been brainwashed to believe their only option is to live with it. It

is NOT true! It may not be easy to find, but real help is out there, and

well worth the trouble to locate. Good luck

Char

PS

Sorry this is so long!

>Subject: Re: Digest Number 1049

>

>,

> They have treid a few meds for pain, but they all make me very itchy.

>The dr said it is probably an allergic reaction. The ones who will even try

>the pain meds will only give them to me for a few days. They all say

>narcotics are too adicting. I have tried all the anti--depressants, and even

>muscle relaxants that are supposed to work for fibro and none work for

>me...all they do is give me bad side effects and dont help the pain anyways.

>I have been to about 15 diffrrerent Dr's and they are all the same. Tell me

>to loose weight and start an aerobic exercise program. I mean really..I can

>barely walk..and they want me to jog everday. I have also found out that my

>estrogen level is really low...lower than that of a menopausal women, even

>though I am only 27. None of the Drs can seems to explain this or even seem

>to care to try. It is not common with the polycystic ovarain syndrome so now

>I wonder if they even have the right diagnosis. I have also tried to take my

>husband along on appts and it seems that has the opposite feect

>sometimes....sometime they act like I must be some kind of baby to have to

>bring him with. We have not had much luck with good Dr's. We have driven up

>to 3 hours to try to find better Dr's even, with no luck tthere either. The

>rheumy we went to was the worst.....he told me " You have pain, live with it

>and go back to work. It wil never get any better " He was a total jerk. We

>are just sooo frustarted because i have soo many thing going on in my body

>right now. They cant figure out this hormone problem and no one even really

>seems to care. I am just sooo frustrated, but thanks a lot for trying to

>help, but most of all for understanding and responding ot my email. I

>really appreciate it. =)

>

>Vicki

[Guest guest]

Allicia,

I am soo sorry to hear that you are having problems with your boyfriend.

I am ahving the same probs with my husband. I have intersitial cystitis and

it also cause very painful intercourse so my sex life is non-exsistent and

that is very hard ooon my husband. It is very hard emotionally. It feels

like we cant connect. Sometimes feels like we are just roomates. I also have

polycystic and that can cause decreased sex drinve...and I also just oufnd

out that i have realyl low levels of estrgoen, which can also affect this.

When you are in pain all the time you dont really feel like it anyways...this

can be hard. I have been reading all of your posts and i feel soo bad for

you. I hope your boyfriend can find a way to be more supportive. Have you

tried having him read any post tosee that others struggle with this too???

Justa though.

Vicki

[Guest guest]

Allicia,

I am soo sorry to hear that you are having problems with your boyfriend.

I am ahving the same probs with my husband. I have intersitial cystitis and

it also cause very painful intercourse so my sex life is non-exsistent and

that is very hard ooon my husband. It is very hard emotionally. It feels

like we cant connect. Sometimes feels like we are just roomates. I also have

polycystic and that can cause decreased sex drinve...and I also just oufnd

out that i have realyl low levels of estrgoen, which can also affect this.

When you are in pain all the time you dont really feel like it anyways...this

can be hard. I have been reading all of your posts and i feel soo bad for

you. I hope your boyfriend can find a way to be more supportive. Have you

tried having him read any post tosee that others struggle with this too???

Justa though.

Vicki

[Guest guest]

Allicia,

I am soo sorry to hear that you are having problems with your boyfriend.

I am ahving the same probs with my husband. I have intersitial cystitis and

it also cause very painful intercourse so my sex life is non-exsistent and

that is very hard ooon my husband. It is very hard emotionally. It feels

like we cant connect. Sometimes feels like we are just roomates. I also have

polycystic and that can cause decreased sex drinve...and I also just oufnd

out that i have realyl low levels of estrgoen, which can also affect this.

When you are in pain all the time you dont really feel like it anyways...this

can be hard. I have been reading all of your posts and i feel soo bad for

you. I hope your boyfriend can find a way to be more supportive. Have you

tried having him read any post tosee that others struggle with this too???

Justa though.

Vicki

[Guest guest]

Cyndie,

I get pain in my breast all the time. I have a ton of little knots all

over in them. They say it is fibrocystic breast or something...can also be

trigger points from fibro I am told. I have thousands of knots all over in

both of my breasts it is very painful. Gets way worse during my peroid. Weh

I first started getting these they were always on my left side and I thought

for sure iwas having aheart attack. I had my husband rush me ot the Er...I

was soo scared...I get them all the time now....it really sucks..I also get a

lot of pain in the chest bone that runs right down the middle on the chest

area. It is extermely painful. I dont know if this is vewry common or

not...but I get it..a.ll the time...the lumps and the pain never go

away....it is awful... hope that was helpful.

Vicki

Ps I sure have been posting a lot..I hope you all dont mind or get too sick

of me..I just finally want some answers and to see if others are going

through the same things...and also lately I am feeling very depsearte for

support........ thanks =)

[Guest guest]

Cyndie,

I get pain in my breast all the time. I have a ton of little knots all

over in them. They say it is fibrocystic breast or something...can also be

trigger points from fibro I am told. I have thousands of knots all over in

both of my breasts it is very painful. Gets way worse during my peroid. Weh

I first started getting these they were always on my left side and I thought

for sure iwas having aheart attack. I had my husband rush me ot the Er...I

was soo scared...I get them all the time now....it really sucks..I also get a

lot of pain in the chest bone that runs right down the middle on the chest

area. It is extermely painful. I dont know if this is vewry common or

not...but I get it..a.ll the time...the lumps and the pain never go

away....it is awful... hope that was helpful.

Vicki

Ps I sure have been posting a lot..I hope you all dont mind or get too sick

of me..I just finally want some answers and to see if others are going

through the same things...and also lately I am feeling very depsearte for

support........ thanks =)

[Guest guest]

Cyndie,

I get pain in my breast all the time. I have a ton of little knots all

over in them. They say it is fibrocystic breast or something...can also be

trigger points from fibro I am told. I have thousands of knots all over in

both of my breasts it is very painful. Gets way worse during my peroid. Weh

I first started getting these they were always on my left side and I thought

for sure iwas having aheart attack. I had my husband rush me ot the Er...I

was soo scared...I get them all the time now....it really sucks..I also get a

lot of pain in the chest bone that runs right down the middle on the chest

area. It is extermely painful. I dont know if this is vewry common or

not...but I get it..a.ll the time...the lumps and the pain never go

away....it is awful... hope that was helpful.

Vicki

Ps I sure have been posting a lot..I hope you all dont mind or get too sick

of me..I just finally want some answers and to see if others are going

through the same things...and also lately I am feeling very depsearte for

support........ thanks =)

[Guest guest]

How do you post pictures on the site???

[Guest guest]

How do you post pictures on the site???

[Guest guest]

How do you post pictures on the site???

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/21/2001 1:16:06 AM US Eastern Standard Time,

vickibunni@... writes:

> Have you

> tried having him read any post tosee that others struggle with this too???

>

No because then he will be extremely PI#$# off because I am talking about our

problems online to " strangers " that I dont know...He is a police officer

....so this just all multiplies by 20...they are hard people to live with and

hard people to get to their " true feelings " ....but they have all the head

games in the world for ya thats for sure...and they can belittle you in the

matter of about 15 seconds...its very hard...and I am trying...thanks for the

idea, but it wouldn't work well here....I love ya'll don't know what I would

do without this list....actually I know where I would be...in a nice pine

box.....

Allicia

[Guest guest]

There are numerous letters for people to use that describe FMS. You can

give them to people to help them understand what we go thru. Would this

help you out? I can send a copy of one to you.

>In a message dated 11/21/2001 1:16:06 AM US Eastern Standard Time,

>vickibunni@... writes:

>

>

> > Have you

> > tried having him read any post tosee that others struggle with this

> too???

> >

>

>No because then he will be extremely PI#$# off because I am talking about our

>problems online to " strangers " that I dont know...He is a police officer

>...so this just all multiplies by 20...they are hard people to live with and

>hard people to get to their " true feelings " ....but they have all the head

>games in the world for ya thats for sure...and they can belittle you in the

>matter of about 15 seconds...its very hard...and I am trying...thanks for the

>idea, but it wouldn't work well here....I love ya'll don't know what I would

>do without this list....actually I know where I would be...in a nice pine

>box.....

>Allicia

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

There are numerous letters for people to use that describe FMS. You can

give them to people to help them understand what we go thru. Would this

help you out? I can send a copy of one to you.

>In a message dated 11/21/2001 1:16:06 AM US Eastern Standard Time,

>vickibunni@... writes:

>

>

> > Have you

> > tried having him read any post tosee that others struggle with this

> too???

> >

>

>No because then he will be extremely PI#$# off because I am talking about our

>problems online to " strangers " that I dont know...He is a police officer

>...so this just all multiplies by 20...they are hard people to live with and

>hard people to get to their " true feelings " ....but they have all the head

>games in the world for ya thats for sure...and they can belittle you in the

>matter of about 15 seconds...its very hard...and I am trying...thanks for the

>idea, but it wouldn't work well here....I love ya'll don't know what I would

>do without this list....actually I know where I would be...in a nice pine

>box.....

>Allicia

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

You can get the pain medication you need if you fight hard enough. I know

sometimes you feel you have no more fight or energy left, but this is your

life, fight for the RIGHT to a decent one. Get on the right pain medication

and you won't believe how much better you feel.

Rhonda

http://www.opioids.com/chronicpain/index.html

http://www.ampainsoc.org/whatsnew/release030499.htm

http://expage.com/page/painucontrol1 This site has alot of links to many

different pain sites.

Re: Digest Number 1053

> Vicki,

> I hope I am not butting in, but I totally understand your frustration, and

> I have also tried all the medicines that are " supposed " to work and help

> the fibro pain. Please forgive my crudeness, but unless you have a mild

> case, they are just crap. From past experiences with pain, I know what

> works, but because of the DEA and their misguided war on drugs, getting

> adequate pain treatment has turned into the impossible dream. Instead of

> keeping drugs off the street, all they have succeeded at doing is keeping

> the drugs from legitimate pain patients. I can't count the # of doctors I

> have seen that said the same as yours, lose weight and exercise and learn

> to live with it! Did the real, or as the doctors say, " addicting " pain

> medications help you at all? Doctors are grossly ignorant in pain

> treatment and it has to change!

> I went along with it way too long until one morning as I sat on the edge

of

> my bed crying because it hurt too much to lie back down, and it hurt to

> much to get up, the pain congealed into anger, and I just decided I had

> enough, I couldn't live that way any more. I did a massive web search and

> found a group that is of the same mind-set, pain does not have to be

> tolerated. The truth of the matter is that the only class of drugs to

> treat severe pain, besides the relatively useless OTC stuff, are

> narcotics. They have relieved pain for centuries, have a well proven

track

> record, and with rare exceptions are very safe, most of the side affects

> are merely nuisances, and disappear a short time after treatment begins.

No

> one wants to become an " addict " , but statistics will back it up...

physical

> dependence happens with many drugs, from blood pressure medications,

> anti-depressants, insulin, and on and on, but no one considers one an

> addict for talking them. Physical dependance is NOT the same as

> addiction! Narcotics also cause physical dependence, but less than 1% of

> legitimate pain patients ever become addicted. An addict seeks a drug to

> get high and escape from life, a pain patient seeks freedom from pain to

> get back into life. I go on because it took a lot of convincing for me to

> get over the stereotype and finally find REAL pain relief. The American

> Society for Action on Pain (ASAP) has a group on Yahoo very similar to

this

> one, and here is the link: http://www.asappain.com/discussion.htm

> They also have a web site full of info, and their motto is " We seek opiate

> medication in Adequate and Ongoing Amounts for All Americans who Suffer in

> Chronic Pain " . There is a lot of advice on how to become your own best

> advocate, and if you seek a doctor in your area that will treat chronic

> pain appropriately, they will try to help you locate one. I have just

> recently found a good doctor who is working with me to get my pain

managed,

> and for the first time in too many years I can function again. I cannot

> even begin to tell you the difference it has made! My family was very

> worried and skeptical, but once they were able to see the effects, they

> quickly changed their opinion. The first week or so took some adjustment,

> but ironically, I don't feel drugged or spacey like I did on the other

junk

> I was taking that did nothing for the pain, and had a list of side effects

> that were beyond scary! I must sound like a drug pusher, LOL, but having

> experienced pain like that I think it is ridiculous and cruel that others

> have been brainwashed to believe their only option is to live with it. It

> is NOT true! It may not be easy to find, but real help is out there, and

> well worth the trouble to locate. Good luck

>

> Char

> PS

> Sorry this is so long!

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Here's what the handout says:

Functions of Intestinal Mucous Layer (Epithelial Layer):

The mucous layer also referred to as the epithelial layer, is a very

thin, one cell thick wet area that lines the intestinal walls, lungs,

eyes, nasal cavities and vaginal wall. It serves the following

functions:

1. Protective barrier-protects and covers mast cells that contain

histamine.

2. Activates enzymes.

3. Secretes antibodies made from the intestinal wall.

4. Prevents yeast and parasites from adhering to the intestinal wall.

Ketotifen is an antihistamine that reduces the harmful effects of

histamine which allows the mucous layer to come back and heal the

intestinal well.

The information sheet says it should be taken for about 6 months.

Hope this helps,

:^)

Alessa

Re: Leaky Gut and blood pressure question

Posted by: " Gikas " skg59@... homewinstonblack

Fri Aug 11, 2006 1:02 pm (PST)

Thanks Alessa,

I'm still not quite sure how this drug would repair gut mucosa, but I

hope it helps you.

Leaky Gut and blood pressure

question

7a.

leaky gut

Hi ,

My doctor recently prescribed Ketotifen for me:

http://www.drugs.com/MMX/Ketotifen_Fumarate.html

As it was explained to me, this drug is supposed to help your body stop

having the histamine allergic response to the foods you eat.

The main side effect is sleepiness - which I got a lot of (since I'm

the queen of side effects) and I've had to stop taking it for now -

until I get some other things sorted. That side effect is supposed to

go away after a couple weeks but I didn't get that far.

I also had a blood test to see all the foods I'm reactive to and I've

avoided those. I've been having trouble avoiding wheat lately but I do

feel better when I can stay away from it completely, but wheat might

not be one of your reactive foods.

The test was done by Immuno Labs through my MD.

I finished a 3-day round of ALA (25) with DMSA (25) last week and have

been feeling awful. Specifically, I'm exhausted and it feels as if my

blood pressure is so low that I can barely sit up. In fact, I had my

blood pressure taken and it was 90 over 60 - or something like that.

I've never been able to understand blood pressure. What I do know is

that if I stand for too long or do any kind of physical exertion I get

super dizzy and have to lie down.

This kind of thing happens to me sometimes and I have NO idea what's

going on. Doctors don't seem to know either.

I'm taking 10mg Cortef/day (8am and 12pm) and .050 Levoxyl. I don't do

well on Armour and felt worse taking T3 Cytomel.

Anyone know what's making my blood pressure so low? Anyone know what

might help???

:^)

Alessa

Posted by: " Gikas " skg59@... homewinstonblack

Thu Aug 10, 2006 1:35 pm (PST)

Citrus Punch

What's the best thing to do/take for leaky gut? Anything better than

glutamine which Andy recommends in Amalgam Illness book?

The pursuit of truth and beauty is a sphere of activity in which we are

permitted to remain children all our lives.

-Albert Einstein, physicist, Nobel laureate (1879-1955)

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Here's what the handout says:

Functions of Intestinal Mucous Layer (Epithelial Layer):

The mucous layer also referred to as the epithelial layer, is a very

thin, one cell thick wet area that lines the intestinal walls, lungs,

eyes, nasal cavities and vaginal wall. It serves the following

functions:

1. Protective barrier-protects and covers mast cells that contain

histamine.

2. Activates enzymes.

3. Secretes antibodies made from the intestinal wall.

4. Prevents yeast and parasites from adhering to the intestinal wall.

Ketotifen is an antihistamine that reduces the harmful effects of

histamine which allows the mucous layer to come back and heal the

intestinal well.

The information sheet says it should be taken for about 6 months.

Hope this helps,

:^)

Alessa

Re: Leaky Gut and blood pressure question

Posted by: " Gikas " skg59@... homewinstonblack

Fri Aug 11, 2006 1:02 pm (PST)

Thanks Alessa,

I'm still not quite sure how this drug would repair gut mucosa, but I

hope it helps you.

Leaky Gut and blood pressure

question

7a.

leaky gut

Hi ,

My doctor recently prescribed Ketotifen for me:

http://www.drugs.com/MMX/Ketotifen_Fumarate.html

As it was explained to me, this drug is supposed to help your body stop

having the histamine allergic response to the foods you eat.

The main side effect is sleepiness - which I got a lot of (since I'm

the queen of side effects) and I've had to stop taking it for now -

until I get some other things sorted. That side effect is supposed to

go away after a couple weeks but I didn't get that far.

I also had a blood test to see all the foods I'm reactive to and I've

avoided those. I've been having trouble avoiding wheat lately but I do

feel better when I can stay away from it completely, but wheat might

not be one of your reactive foods.

The test was done by Immuno Labs through my MD.

I finished a 3-day round of ALA (25) with DMSA (25) last week and have

been feeling awful. Specifically, I'm exhausted and it feels as if my

blood pressure is so low that I can barely sit up. In fact, I had my

blood pressure taken and it was 90 over 60 - or something like that.

I've never been able to understand blood pressure. What I do know is

that if I stand for too long or do any kind of physical exertion I get

super dizzy and have to lie down.

This kind of thing happens to me sometimes and I have NO idea what's

going on. Doctors don't seem to know either.

I'm taking 10mg Cortef/day (8am and 12pm) and .050 Levoxyl. I don't do

well on Armour and felt worse taking T3 Cytomel.

Anyone know what's making my blood pressure so low? Anyone know what

might help???

:^)

Alessa

Posted by: " Gikas " skg59@... homewinstonblack

Thu Aug 10, 2006 1:35 pm (PST)

Citrus Punch

What's the best thing to do/take for leaky gut? Anything better than

glutamine which Andy recommends in Amalgam Illness book?

The pursuit of truth and beauty is a sphere of activity in which we are

permitted to remain children all our lives.

-Albert Einstein, physicist, Nobel laureate (1879-1955)

__________________________________________________