Re: My turn to pick brains - Hashi's, depression, and more!

July 10, 2005

My latest opthamologist told me that hashimoto's can cause my vision to act

" crazy " I am thinking that the level of thyroid hormones affect this, like

the blood sugar levels affect the vision in someone who is diabetic.

It seems that more thyroid hormones are needed in winter or in times of

illness(like a diabetic with insulin )

hugs

Feisty

Re: Re: My turn to pick brains -

Hashi's, depression, and more!

> Hi Sparrow,

> I was really interested to read this.

> My symptoms got so bad during the winter that 9 years

> ago my doc diagnosed SAD. He gave me Seroxat to take

> but I only took 4 tablets as on the fourth day I

> started hallucinating. I used light treatment from

> then on. I had thyroid tests too which my GP assured

> me were normal.

> Another problem during these winter months was double

> vision. I had all sorts of tests for that but as it

> always diappeared in the summer no one was able to

> find a cause.

> Like you the spring brought a burst of energy but in

> 2003 none came. By the winter of that year I couldn't

> even climb the stairs at home.

> Since taking thyroxine I've had no more problems with

> double vision during the winter months, and I hope

> adding in T3 will sort out the remaining symptoms.

> Somewhere I have an article that links the lack of T3

> with winter depressions, if you are interested I will

> try and find it.

>

> --- Sparrow wrote:

>

> > Hi . My advice to you is...get your thyroid

> > stuff figured out

> > first.

> > My experience with depression and thyroid could have

> > killed me. For

> > years I had Seasonal Affective Disorder. Nothing was

> > really working

> > for the disorder so I decided I would go into a

> > study group at the

> > local hospital. When I started the group they tested

> > EVERYTHING and

> > EVERYTHING came out with in normal ranges and/or

> > negative.

> > Near the end of the study, in March (my usual time

> > to get better) my

> > depression was so bad I was taking a handful of

> > pills twice a day

> > (prescribed) just to get through life and to sleep.

> > Normally at this

> > time I would be getting ready for spring and my

> > depression would go

> > away. Suddenly, I dropped 30 lbs and my doctor was

> > stumped, and

> > ordered more meds to combat my depression. I kept

> > losing weight and

> > felt suicidal. It was the most awful feeling. My

> > body had shut down

> > also. I was in so much pain I was taking

> > painkillers. Not only that,

> > I thought I was going crazy (not just depressed) and

> > was suffereing

> > from extreme anxiety...so I think you might have

> > guessed, the doctor

> > gave me ativan for the anxious feelings. Okay, so

> > here I was taking

> > two different antidepressants, sleeping pills,

> > painkillers, and

> > anxiety pills (which are highly addictive). Finally,

> > in August of

> > 2003 my doctor ordered thyroid tests because he

> > thought I was hyper.

> > When the test came back my TSH was at 37. Somewhere

> > between Sept of

> > 2002 and August 2003 my thyroid went bezerk. From

> > Sept 2003 to March

> > 2004 I took all those meds PLUS my synthroid 100mg

> > everyday. In March

> > I decided to go off EVERYTHING, including the

> > synthroid. It was a

> > hellish year, let me tell you. This March I started

> > taking natural

> > Thryroid (1grain) everyday. I am not taking anything

> > else besides the

> > occasional advil for my aches and pains. I am still

> > not feeling my

> > best, but I am much better and enjoying my life. I

> > get out to the

> > beach, mountains, or parks almost everyday. I play

> > with my kids as

> > much as they will let me as all three are teenage

> > boys. I work, HARD

> > ( I work with developmentally disabled adults)!!

> > Life is good and

> > will be better when I figure out my dosage for the

> > natural.

> >

> > Sparrow

> >

>

> ____________________________________________________

> Sell on Yahoo! Auctions - no fees. Bid on great items.

> http://auctions.yahoo.com/

>

July 10, 2005

My latest opthamologist told me that hashimoto's can cause my vision to act

" crazy " I am thinking that the level of thyroid hormones affect this, like

the blood sugar levels affect the vision in someone who is diabetic.

It seems that more thyroid hormones are needed in winter or in times of

illness(like a diabetic with insulin )

hugs

Feisty

Re: Re: My turn to pick brains -

Hashi's, depression, and more!

> Hi Sparrow,

> I was really interested to read this.

> My symptoms got so bad during the winter that 9 years

> ago my doc diagnosed SAD. He gave me Seroxat to take

> but I only took 4 tablets as on the fourth day I

> started hallucinating. I used light treatment from

> then on. I had thyroid tests too which my GP assured

> me were normal.

> Another problem during these winter months was double

> vision. I had all sorts of tests for that but as it

> always diappeared in the summer no one was able to

> find a cause.

> Like you the spring brought a burst of energy but in

> 2003 none came. By the winter of that year I couldn't

> even climb the stairs at home.

> Since taking thyroxine I've had no more problems with

> double vision during the winter months, and I hope

> adding in T3 will sort out the remaining symptoms.

> Somewhere I have an article that links the lack of T3

> with winter depressions, if you are interested I will

> try and find it.

>

> --- Sparrow wrote:

>

> > Hi . My advice to you is...get your thyroid

> > stuff figured out

> > first.

> > My experience with depression and thyroid could have

> > killed me. For

> > years I had Seasonal Affective Disorder. Nothing was

> > really working

> > for the disorder so I decided I would go into a

> > study group at the

> > local hospital. When I started the group they tested

> > EVERYTHING and

> > EVERYTHING came out with in normal ranges and/or

> > negative.

> > Near the end of the study, in March (my usual time

> > to get better) my

> > depression was so bad I was taking a handful of

> > pills twice a day

> > (prescribed) just to get through life and to sleep.

> > Normally at this

> > time I would be getting ready for spring and my

> > depression would go

> > away. Suddenly, I dropped 30 lbs and my doctor was

> > stumped, and

> > ordered more meds to combat my depression. I kept

> > losing weight and

> > felt suicidal. It was the most awful feeling. My

> > body had shut down

> > also. I was in so much pain I was taking

> > painkillers. Not only that,

> > I thought I was going crazy (not just depressed) and

> > was suffereing

> > from extreme anxiety...so I think you might have

> > guessed, the doctor

> > gave me ativan for the anxious feelings. Okay, so

> > here I was taking

> > two different antidepressants, sleeping pills,

> > painkillers, and

> > anxiety pills (which are highly addictive). Finally,

> > in August of

> > 2003 my doctor ordered thyroid tests because he

> > thought I was hyper.

> > When the test came back my TSH was at 37. Somewhere

> > between Sept of

> > 2002 and August 2003 my thyroid went bezerk. From

> > Sept 2003 to March

> > 2004 I took all those meds PLUS my synthroid 100mg

> > everyday. In March

> > I decided to go off EVERYTHING, including the

> > synthroid. It was a

> > hellish year, let me tell you. This March I started

> > taking natural

> > Thryroid (1grain) everyday. I am not taking anything

> > else besides the

> > occasional advil for my aches and pains. I am still

> > not feeling my

> > best, but I am much better and enjoying my life. I

> > get out to the

> > beach, mountains, or parks almost everyday. I play

> > with my kids as

> > much as they will let me as all three are teenage

> > boys. I work, HARD

> > ( I work with developmentally disabled adults)!!

> > Life is good and

> > will be better when I figure out my dosage for the

> > natural.

> >

> > Sparrow

> >

>

> ____________________________________________________

> Sell on Yahoo! Auctions - no fees. Bid on great items.

> http://auctions.yahoo.com/

>

July 10, 2005

Well if lack of T3 made my the muscles of my legs too

weak to climb stairs, and caused my heart and

digestion to slow then it seems logical to assume that

the eye muscles are similary weakened. None of the

doctors in the eye clinic I attended made that

connection though.

I am interested in the comment you make about

diabetes. When I crash in the afternoon (which I still

do), my first instinct is to eat something sweet. I do

try and resist that instinct and drink fruit juice or

a more complex carbohydrate snack. During the crash my

vision is blurry. Now if the sugar is helping me

convert more T3 then it follows that my vision will

improve with my energy levels - which it does.

I'm hoping that I'll be rid of all this when I start

taking T3 with my T4.

--- " Feisty(ThyroFeisty) "

wrote:

> My latest opthamologist told me that hashimoto's can

> cause my vision to act

> " crazy " I am thinking that the level of thyroid

> hormones affect this, like

> the blood sugar levels affect the vision in someone

> who is diabetic.

> It seems that more thyroid hormones are needed in

> winter or in times of

> illness(like a diabetic with insulin )

> hugs

> Feisty

> Re: Re: My turn

> to pick brains -

> Hashi's, depression, and more!

>

> > Hi Sparrow,

> > I was really interested to read this.

> > My symptoms got so bad during the winter that 9

> years

> > ago my doc diagnosed SAD. He gave me Seroxat to

> take

> > but I only took 4 tablets as on the fourth day I

> > started hallucinating. I used light treatment from

> > then on. I had thyroid tests too which my GP

> assured

> > me were normal.

> > Another problem during these winter months was

> double

> > vision. I had all sorts of tests for that but as

> it

> > always diappeared in the summer no one was able to

> > find a cause.

> > Like you the spring brought a burst of energy but

> in

> > 2003 none came. By the winter of that year I

> couldn't

> > even climb the stairs at home.

> > Since taking thyroxine I've had no more problems

> with

> > double vision during the winter months, and I hope

> > adding in T3 will sort out the remaining symptoms.

> > Somewhere I have an article that links the lack of

> T3

> > with winter depressions, if you are interested I

> will

> > try and find it.

> >

> > --- Sparrow wrote:

> >

> > > Hi . My advice to you is...get your

> thyroid

> > > stuff figured out

> > > first.

> > > My experience with depression and thyroid could

> have

> > > killed me. For

> > > years I had Seasonal Affective Disorder. Nothing

> was

> > > really working

> > > for the disorder so I decided I would go into a

> > > study group at the

> > > local hospital. When I started the group they

> tested

> > > EVERYTHING and

> > > EVERYTHING came out with in normal ranges and/or

> > > negative.

> > > Near the end of the study, in March (my usual

> time

> > > to get better) my

> > > depression was so bad I was taking a handful of

> > > pills twice a day

> > > (prescribed) just to get through life and to

> sleep.

> > > Normally at this

> > > time I would be getting ready for spring and my

> > > depression would go

> > > away. Suddenly, I dropped 30 lbs and my doctor

> was

> > > stumped, and

> > > ordered more meds to combat my depression. I

> kept

> > > losing weight and

> > > felt suicidal. It was the most awful feeling.

> My

> > > body had shut down

> > > also. I was in so much pain I was taking

> > > painkillers. Not only that,

> > > I thought I was going crazy (not just depressed)

> and

> > > was suffereing

> > > from extreme anxiety...so I think you might have

> > > guessed, the doctor

> > > gave me ativan for the anxious feelings. Okay,

> so

> > > here I was taking

> > > two different antidepressants, sleeping pills,

> > > painkillers, and

> > > anxiety pills (which are highly addictive).

> Finally,

> > > in August of

> > > 2003 my doctor ordered thyroid tests because he

> > > thought I was hyper.

> > > When the test came back my TSH was at 37.

> Somewhere

> > > between Sept of

> > > 2002 and August 2003 my thyroid went bezerk.

> From

> > > Sept 2003 to March

> > > 2004 I took all those meds PLUS my synthroid

> 100mg

> > > everyday. In March

> > > I decided to go off EVERYTHING, including the

> > > synthroid. It was a

> > > hellish year, let me tell you. This March I

> started

> > > taking natural

> > > Thryroid (1grain) everyday. I am not taking

> anything

> > > else besides the

> > > occasional advil for my aches and pains. I am

> still

> > > not feeling my

> > > best, but I am much better and enjoying my life.

> I

> > > get out to the

> > > beach, mountains, or parks almost everyday. I

> play

> > > with my kids as

> > > much as they will let me as all three are

> teenage

> > > boys. I work, HARD

> > > ( I work with developmentally disabled adults)!!

> > > Life is good and

> > > will be better when I figure out my dosage for

> the

> > > natural.

> > >

> > > Sparrow

> > >

> >

> ____________________________________________________

> > Sell on Yahoo! Auctions - no fees. Bid on great

> items.

> > http://auctions.yahoo.com/

> >

July 10, 2005

Well if lack of T3 made my the muscles of my legs too

weak to climb stairs, and caused my heart and

digestion to slow then it seems logical to assume that

the eye muscles are similary weakened. None of the

doctors in the eye clinic I attended made that

connection though.

I am interested in the comment you make about

diabetes. When I crash in the afternoon (which I still

do), my first instinct is to eat something sweet. I do

try and resist that instinct and drink fruit juice or

a more complex carbohydrate snack. During the crash my

vision is blurry. Now if the sugar is helping me

convert more T3 then it follows that my vision will

improve with my energy levels - which it does.

I'm hoping that I'll be rid of all this when I start

taking T3 with my T4.

--- " Feisty(ThyroFeisty) "

wrote:

> My latest opthamologist told me that hashimoto's can

> cause my vision to act

> " crazy " I am thinking that the level of thyroid

> hormones affect this, like

> the blood sugar levels affect the vision in someone

> who is diabetic.

> It seems that more thyroid hormones are needed in

> winter or in times of

> illness(like a diabetic with insulin )

> hugs

> Feisty

> Re: Re: My turn

> to pick brains -

> Hashi's, depression, and more!

>

> > Hi Sparrow,

> > I was really interested to read this.

> > My symptoms got so bad during the winter that 9

> years

> > ago my doc diagnosed SAD. He gave me Seroxat to

> take

> > but I only took 4 tablets as on the fourth day I

> > started hallucinating. I used light treatment from

> > then on. I had thyroid tests too which my GP

> assured

> > me were normal.

> > Another problem during these winter months was

> double

> > vision. I had all sorts of tests for that but as

> it

> > always diappeared in the summer no one was able to

> > find a cause.

> > Like you the spring brought a burst of energy but

> in

> > 2003 none came. By the winter of that year I

> couldn't

> > even climb the stairs at home.

> > Since taking thyroxine I've had no more problems

> with

> > double vision during the winter months, and I hope

> > adding in T3 will sort out the remaining symptoms.

> > Somewhere I have an article that links the lack of

> T3

> > with winter depressions, if you are interested I

> will

> > try and find it.

> >

> > --- Sparrow wrote:

> >

> > > Hi . My advice to you is...get your

> thyroid

> > > stuff figured out

> > > first.

> > > My experience with depression and thyroid could

> have

> > > killed me. For

> > > years I had Seasonal Affective Disorder. Nothing

> was

> > > really working

> > > for the disorder so I decided I would go into a

> > > study group at the

> > > local hospital. When I started the group they

> tested

> > > EVERYTHING and

> > > EVERYTHING came out with in normal ranges and/or

> > > negative.

> > > Near the end of the study, in March (my usual

> time

> > > to get better) my

> > > depression was so bad I was taking a handful of

> > > pills twice a day

> > > (prescribed) just to get through life and to

> sleep.

> > > Normally at this

> > > time I would be getting ready for spring and my

> > > depression would go

> > > away. Suddenly, I dropped 30 lbs and my doctor

> was

> > > stumped, and

> > > ordered more meds to combat my depression. I

> kept

> > > losing weight and

> > > felt suicidal. It was the most awful feeling.

> My

> > > body had shut down

> > > also. I was in so much pain I was taking

> > > painkillers. Not only that,

> > > I thought I was going crazy (not just depressed)

> and

> > > was suffereing

> > > from extreme anxiety...so I think you might have

> > > guessed, the doctor

> > > gave me ativan for the anxious feelings. Okay,

> so

> > > here I was taking

> > > two different antidepressants, sleeping pills,

> > > painkillers, and

> > > anxiety pills (which are highly addictive).

> Finally,

> > > in August of

> > > 2003 my doctor ordered thyroid tests because he

> > > thought I was hyper.

> > > When the test came back my TSH was at 37.

> Somewhere

> > > between Sept of

> > > 2002 and August 2003 my thyroid went bezerk.

> From

> > > Sept 2003 to March

> > > 2004 I took all those meds PLUS my synthroid

> 100mg

> > > everyday. In March

> > > I decided to go off EVERYTHING, including the

> > > synthroid. It was a

> > > hellish year, let me tell you. This March I

> started

> > > taking natural

> > > Thryroid (1grain) everyday. I am not taking

> anything

> > > else besides the

> > > occasional advil for my aches and pains. I am

> still

> > > not feeling my

> > > best, but I am much better and enjoying my life.

> I

> > > get out to the

> > > beach, mountains, or parks almost everyday. I

> play

> > > with my kids as

> > > much as they will let me as all three are

> teenage

> > > boys. I work, HARD

> > > ( I work with developmentally disabled adults)!!

> > > Life is good and

> > > will be better when I figure out my dosage for

> the

> > > natural.

> > >

> > > Sparrow

> > >

> >

> ____________________________________________________

> > Sell on Yahoo! Auctions - no fees. Bid on great

> items.

> > http://auctions.yahoo.com/

> >

July 10, 2005

Here is the article about SAD and T3

According to the January 2001 issue of the Journal of

Clinical Endocrinology and Metabolism, research into

the thyroid status of individuals living in Antarctica

is revealing information that may help people cope

with wintertime depression in warmer climates.

The researchers discovered that treatment with thyroid

hormone can improve a condition called " polar T3

syndrome, " -- essentially, a cold-induced form of

hypothyroidism experienced by resarchers spending

periods in Antartica -- that causes impaired cognitive

skills and thinking, and bad moods.

The reseachers demonstrated that treatment with

thyroid hormone could be useful to treat this

syndrome. The researchers speculate that when living

in extreme cold, muscles will hoard thyroid hormone in

order to maintain body temperature, leaving the brain

depleted of thyroid hormone. So, the addition of

thyroid hormone helped to return the brain to proper

function, aiding thinking skills and relivieng

depression. Their findings also suggest that thyroid

hormone treatment may also be an aid in treating

" winter depression " or seasonal affective disorders

(SAD) that affect people in warmer climates, and the

researchers recommend that this be studied as a

possible treatment for SAD.

(The Journal of Clinical Endocrinology and Metabolism

2001;86:110)

--- " Feisty(ThyroFeisty) "

wrote:

> My latest opthamologist told me that hashimoto's can

> cause my vision to act

> " crazy " I am thinking that the level of thyroid

> hormones affect this, like

> the blood sugar levels affect the vision in someone

> who is diabetic.

> It seems that more thyroid hormones are needed in

> winter or in times of

> illness(like a diabetic with insulin )

> hugs

> Feisty

> Re: Re: My turn

> to pick brains -

> Hashi's, depression, and more!

>

> > Hi Sparrow,

> > I was really interested to read this.

> > My symptoms got so bad during the winter that 9

> years

> > ago my doc diagnosed SAD. He gave me Seroxat to

> take

> > but I only took 4 tablets as on the fourth day I

> > started hallucinating. I used light treatment from

> > then on. I had thyroid tests too which my GP

> assured

> > me were normal.

> > Another problem during these winter months was

> double

> > vision. I had all sorts of tests for that but as

> it

> > always diappeared in the summer no one was able to

> > find a cause.

> > Like you the spring brought a burst of energy but

> in

> > 2003 none came. By the winter of that year I

> couldn't

> > even climb the stairs at home.

> > Since taking thyroxine I've had no more problems

> with

> > double vision during the winter months, and I hope

> > adding in T3 will sort out the remaining symptoms.

> > Somewhere I have an article that links the lack of

> T3

> > with winter depressions, if you are interested I

> will

> > try and find it.

> >

> > --- Sparrow wrote:

> >

> > > Hi . My advice to you is...get your

> thyroid

> > > stuff figured out

> > > first.

> > > My experience with depression and thyroid could

> have

> > > killed me. For

> > > years I had Seasonal Affective Disorder. Nothing

> was

> > > really working

> > > for the disorder so I decided I would go into a

> > > study group at the

> > > local hospital. When I started the group they

> tested

> > > EVERYTHING and

> > > EVERYTHING came out with in normal ranges and/or

> > > negative.

> > > Near the end of the study, in March (my usual

> time

> > > to get better) my

> > > depression was so bad I was taking a handful of

> > > pills twice a day

> > > (prescribed) just to get through life and to

> sleep.

> > > Normally at this

> > > time I would be getting ready for spring and my

> > > depression would go

> > > away. Suddenly, I dropped 30 lbs and my doctor

> was

> > > stumped, and

> > > ordered more meds to combat my depression. I

> kept

> > > losing weight and

> > > felt suicidal. It was the most awful feeling.

> My

> > > body had shut down

> > > also. I was in so much pain I was taking

> > > painkillers. Not only that,

> > > I thought I was going crazy (not just depressed)

> and

> > > was suffereing

> > > from extreme anxiety...so I think you might have

> > > guessed, the doctor

> > > gave me ativan for the anxious feelings. Okay,

> so

> > > here I was taking

> > > two different antidepressants, sleeping pills,

> > > painkillers, and

> > > anxiety pills (which are highly addictive).

> Finally,

> > > in August of

> > > 2003 my doctor ordered thyroid tests because he

> > > thought I was hyper.

> > > When the test came back my TSH was at 37.

> Somewhere

> > > between Sept of

> > > 2002 and August 2003 my thyroid went bezerk.

> From

> > > Sept 2003 to March

> > > 2004 I took all those meds PLUS my synthroid

> 100mg

> > > everyday. In March

> > > I decided to go off EVERYTHING, including the

> > > synthroid. It was a

> > > hellish year, let me tell you. This March I

> started

> > > taking natural

> > > Thryroid (1grain) everyday. I am not taking

> anything

> > > else besides the

> > > occasional advil for my aches and pains. I am

> still

> > > not feeling my

> > > best, but I am much better and enjoying my life.

> I

> > > get out to the

> > > beach, mountains, or parks almost everyday. I

> play

> > > with my kids as

> > > much as they will let me as all three are

> teenage

> > > boys. I work, HARD

> > > ( I work with developmentally disabled adults)!!

> > > Life is good and

> > > will be better when I figure out my dosage for

> the

> > > natural.

> > >

> > > Sparrow

> > >

> >

> ____________________________________________________

> > Sell on Yahoo! Auctions - no fees. Bid on great

> items.

> > http://auctions.yahoo.com/

> >

July 11, 2005

Except vision doesn't involve that much muscle work. You wave your

eyeballs around using muscles, and you fiddle with the lens using a

very small muscle around the lens, but the actual translation of light

into a message for the brain is done by nerve cells on the retina. I

was reading just the other day that the mechanism of diabetic

neuropathy (doc talk for the deterioration to nerves resulting from

diabetes) is not really understood well at all. So, who knows what's

going on with thyroid patients? By the way, it sounds like one thing

we ought to explore is whether there are documented seasonal cycles in

thyroid hormone levels, or need therefor.

.....................dan

> > >

> > > > Hi . My advice to you is...get your

> > thyroid

> > > > stuff figured out

> > > > first.

> > > > My experience with depression and thyroid could

> > have

> > > > killed me. For

> > > > years I had Seasonal Affective Disorder. Nothing

> > was

> > > > really working

> > > > for the disorder so I decided I would go into a

> > > > study group at the

> > > > local hospital. When I started the group they

> > tested

> > > > EVERYTHING and

> > > > EVERYTHING came out with in normal ranges and/or

> > > > negative.

> > > > Near the end of the study, in March (my usual

> > time

> > > > to get better) my

> > > > depression was so bad I was taking a handful of

> > > > pills twice a day

> > > > (prescribed) just to get through life and to

> > sleep.

> > > > Normally at this

> > > > time I would be getting ready for spring and my

> > > > depression would go

> > > > away. Suddenly, I dropped 30 lbs and my doctor

> > was

> > > > stumped, and

> > > > ordered more meds to combat my depression. I

> > kept

> > > > losing weight and

> > > > felt suicidal. It was the most awful feeling.

> > My

> > > > body had shut down

> > > > also. I was in so much pain I was taking

> > > > painkillers. Not only that,

> > > > I thought I was going crazy (not just depressed)

> > and

> > > > was suffereing

> > > > from extreme anxiety...so I think you might have

> > > > guessed, the doctor

> > > > gave me ativan for the anxious feelings. Okay,

> > so

> > > > here I was taking

> > > > two different antidepressants, sleeping pills,

> > > > painkillers, and

> > > > anxiety pills (which are highly addictive).

> > Finally,

> > > > in August of

> > > > 2003 my doctor ordered thyroid tests because he

> > > > thought I was hyper.

> > > > When the test came back my TSH was at 37.

> > Somewhere

> > > > between Sept of

> > > > 2002 and August 2003 my thyroid went bezerk.

> > From

> > > > Sept 2003 to March

> > > > 2004 I took all those meds PLUS my synthroid

> > 100mg

> > > > everyday. In March

> > > > I decided to go off EVERYTHING, including the

> > > > synthroid. It was a

> > > > hellish year, let me tell you. This March I

> > started

> > > > taking natural

> > > > Thryroid (1grain) everyday. I am not taking

> > anything

> > > > else besides the

> > > > occasional advil for my aches and pains. I am

> > still

> > > > not feeling my

> > > > best, but I am much better and enjoying my life.

> > I

> > > > get out to the

> > > > beach, mountains, or parks almost everyday. I

> > play

> > > > with my kids as

> > > > much as they will let me as all three are

> > teenage

> > > > boys. I work, HARD

> > > > ( I work with developmentally disabled adults)!!

> > > > Life is good and

> > > > will be better when I figure out my dosage for

> > the

> > > > natural.

> > > >

> > > > Sparrow

> > > >

> > >

> > ____________________________________________________

> > > Sell on Yahoo! Auctions - no fees. Bid on great

> > items.

> > > http://auctions.yahoo.com/

> > >

July 15, 2005

Thank you , I would appreciate that.

Since then I have moved from Alberta (frigid cold winters) to

B.C...not so frigid winters...in fact hardly any snow. There is

supposed to be less sun here and people had warned me that my SAD

would be worse. I hardly even felt it last year. I think it is because

in this province I can get out in the winter...and the grass is green

all year round.

Anyway, nice to know that others have gone through similar things.

Sparrow

July 15, 2005

Thank you , I would appreciate that.

Since then I have moved from Alberta (frigid cold winters) to

B.C...not so frigid winters...in fact hardly any snow. There is

supposed to be less sun here and people had warned me that my SAD

would be worse. I hardly even felt it last year. I think it is because

in this province I can get out in the winter...and the grass is green

all year round.

Anyway, nice to know that others have gone through similar things.

Sparrow

July 15, 2005

Thank you , I would appreciate that.

Since then I have moved from Alberta (frigid cold winters) to

B.C...not so frigid winters...in fact hardly any snow. There is

supposed to be less sun here and people had warned me that my SAD

would be worse. I hardly even felt it last year. I think it is because

in this province I can get out in the winter...and the grass is green

all year round.

Anyway, nice to know that others have gone through similar things.

Sparrow

July 15, 2005

, I saw that you did post the article, thank you.

I haven't been on for awhile and it took me a bit to read through all

the posts.

Sparrow

July 15, 2005

, I saw that you did post the article, thank you.

I haven't been on for awhile and it took me a bit to read through all

the posts.

Sparrow

July 15, 2005

, I saw that you did post the article, thank you.

I haven't been on for awhile and it took me a bit to read through all

the posts.

Sparrow

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