Re: My turn to pick brains - Hashi's, depression, and more!

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

My big concern here is that tricyclic antidepressants

can interfere with the metabolism (see drlowe.com) . .

.. and yes I would definitely get the free T3 and T4

and both antibody tests done before starting any

anti-depressants because I feel pretty strongly that

the thyroid has a lot to do with depression . . . from

what I know, hashi's can go into remission . . .

good luck,

Marlena

--- wrote:

> Hi ever'body,

> I need some input/advice here. Little background, I

> have Hashi's, was

> diagnosed oh about 5 years ago, treated for about a

> year and a half and

> haven't been treated since then. Started on

> Nutri-meds in December, and quit

> them last month. (I'll get to that in a minute.)

> Currently I'm in therapy,

> which I started because I got to the point where I

> was just non functional.

> I finally decided that even if it is my thyroid

> causing me to be weepy and

> lethargic, or even if the depression comes from the

> thyroid disease, that it

> would be helpful to deal with the symptoms to get me

> through.

> So. I am talking to my therapist, and she wants to

> put me on

> antidepressants for a short while. I have my doubts

> in general about

> antidepressants, but I agree to talk to my doctor

> about it. In discussions

> with my doc, we reviewed my last set of labs

> (wherein I had a TSH of 1.8 but

> the lab neglected to do the Free's that she had

> ordered), and she said it's

> a good time to do them again. She says it's entirely

> possible that my

> Hashi's is just not acting up right now, and if it's

> not, then it doesn't

> need to be treated. I asked her if there was any

> long term " silent " damage

> that I might be causing by not treating it, and she

> said no. She did say,

> however, that we shoudl be doing labs every 3-4

> months to keep an eye on it,

> ESPECIALLY because I'm clinically depressed and that

> the thryoid stuff can

> cause that.

> Now, I am going to get my labs hopefully in the

> morning before work. But

> here are my questions:

> 1. Can hashi's go into remission or something

> similar?

> 2. Given that hypothyroid and depression have a lot

> of common symptoms (not

> talking here about depression being a symptom of

> hypothyroid/autoimmune

> disorders, but the actual disease that shares a lot

> of symptoms) -- should I

> just treat the depression for a while and see what

> happens? To be honest, I

> haven't had a flare in months. I haven't had the

> worst of my thyroid

> symptoms in a long time. Is it possible I've been

> looking at the wrong

> thing? Oh and the nutri-meds thing -- I wanted to be

> off it a while to see

> if I could notice any difference in how I felt. Plus

> I want my labs to be

> sans medication. If I need to medicate I'd rather do

> it through a

> pharmacist, you know?

> 3. I know, let you know when I get labs done. I

> will let you know as soon

> as I have the results back.

> 4. What is your overall gut feeling/impression on

> this?

> Does this make sense? Feel free to ask questions if

> you want, as I'm not

> sure I've stated this clearly.

> Thanks in advance for reading and considering.

> in LA

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

My big concern here is that tricyclic antidepressants

can interfere with the metabolism (see drlowe.com) . .

.. and yes I would definitely get the free T3 and T4

and both antibody tests done before starting any

anti-depressants because I feel pretty strongly that

the thyroid has a lot to do with depression . . . from

what I know, hashi's can go into remission . . .

good luck,

Marlena

--- wrote:

> Hi ever'body,

> I need some input/advice here. Little background, I

> have Hashi's, was

> diagnosed oh about 5 years ago, treated for about a

> year and a half and

> haven't been treated since then. Started on

> Nutri-meds in December, and quit

> them last month. (I'll get to that in a minute.)

> Currently I'm in therapy,

> which I started because I got to the point where I

> was just non functional.

> I finally decided that even if it is my thyroid

> causing me to be weepy and

> lethargic, or even if the depression comes from the

> thyroid disease, that it

> would be helpful to deal with the symptoms to get me

> through.

> So. I am talking to my therapist, and she wants to

> put me on

> antidepressants for a short while. I have my doubts

> in general about

> antidepressants, but I agree to talk to my doctor

> about it. In discussions

> with my doc, we reviewed my last set of labs

> (wherein I had a TSH of 1.8 but

> the lab neglected to do the Free's that she had

> ordered), and she said it's

> a good time to do them again. She says it's entirely

> possible that my

> Hashi's is just not acting up right now, and if it's

> not, then it doesn't

> need to be treated. I asked her if there was any

> long term " silent " damage

> that I might be causing by not treating it, and she

> said no. She did say,

> however, that we shoudl be doing labs every 3-4

> months to keep an eye on it,

> ESPECIALLY because I'm clinically depressed and that

> the thryoid stuff can

> cause that.

> Now, I am going to get my labs hopefully in the

> morning before work. But

> here are my questions:

> 1. Can hashi's go into remission or something

> similar?

> 2. Given that hypothyroid and depression have a lot

> of common symptoms (not

> talking here about depression being a symptom of

> hypothyroid/autoimmune

> disorders, but the actual disease that shares a lot

> of symptoms) -- should I

> just treat the depression for a while and see what

> happens? To be honest, I

> haven't had a flare in months. I haven't had the

> worst of my thyroid

> symptoms in a long time. Is it possible I've been

> looking at the wrong

> thing? Oh and the nutri-meds thing -- I wanted to be

> off it a while to see

> if I could notice any difference in how I felt. Plus

> I want my labs to be

> sans medication. If I need to medicate I'd rather do

> it through a

> pharmacist, you know?

> 3. I know, let you know when I get labs done. I

> will let you know as soon

> as I have the results back.

> 4. What is your overall gut feeling/impression on

> this?

> Does this make sense? Feel free to ask questions if

> you want, as I'm not

> sure I've stated this clearly.

> Thanks in advance for reading and considering.

> in LA

>

____________________________________________________

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

My big concern here is that tricyclic antidepressants

can interfere with the metabolism (see drlowe.com) . .

.. and yes I would definitely get the free T3 and T4

and both antibody tests done before starting any

anti-depressants because I feel pretty strongly that

the thyroid has a lot to do with depression . . . from

what I know, hashi's can go into remission . . .

good luck,

Marlena

--- wrote:

> Hi ever'body,

> I need some input/advice here. Little background, I

> have Hashi's, was

> diagnosed oh about 5 years ago, treated for about a

> year and a half and

> haven't been treated since then. Started on

> Nutri-meds in December, and quit

> them last month. (I'll get to that in a minute.)

> Currently I'm in therapy,

> which I started because I got to the point where I

> was just non functional.

> I finally decided that even if it is my thyroid

> causing me to be weepy and

> lethargic, or even if the depression comes from the

> thyroid disease, that it

> would be helpful to deal with the symptoms to get me

> through.

> So. I am talking to my therapist, and she wants to

> put me on

> antidepressants for a short while. I have my doubts

> in general about

> antidepressants, but I agree to talk to my doctor

> about it. In discussions

> with my doc, we reviewed my last set of labs

> (wherein I had a TSH of 1.8 but

> the lab neglected to do the Free's that she had

> ordered), and she said it's

> a good time to do them again. She says it's entirely

> possible that my

> Hashi's is just not acting up right now, and if it's

> not, then it doesn't

> need to be treated. I asked her if there was any

> long term " silent " damage

> that I might be causing by not treating it, and she

> said no. She did say,

> however, that we shoudl be doing labs every 3-4

> months to keep an eye on it,

> ESPECIALLY because I'm clinically depressed and that

> the thryoid stuff can

> cause that.

> Now, I am going to get my labs hopefully in the

> morning before work. But

> here are my questions:

> 1. Can hashi's go into remission or something

> similar?

> 2. Given that hypothyroid and depression have a lot

> of common symptoms (not

> talking here about depression being a symptom of

> hypothyroid/autoimmune

> disorders, but the actual disease that shares a lot

> of symptoms) -- should I

> just treat the depression for a while and see what

> happens? To be honest, I

> haven't had a flare in months. I haven't had the

> worst of my thyroid

> symptoms in a long time. Is it possible I've been

> looking at the wrong

> thing? Oh and the nutri-meds thing -- I wanted to be

> off it a while to see

> if I could notice any difference in how I felt. Plus

> I want my labs to be

> sans medication. If I need to medicate I'd rather do

> it through a

> pharmacist, you know?

> 3. I know, let you know when I get labs done. I

> will let you know as soon

> as I have the results back.

> 4. What is your overall gut feeling/impression on

> this?

> Does this make sense? Feel free to ask questions if

> you want, as I'm not

> sure I've stated this clearly.

> Thanks in advance for reading and considering.

> in LA

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Marlena,

That's part of my concern actually. I have a pretty jacked up metabolism anyway. But I think I can combat that with diet and exercise if I work them right.

The antidepressant my doc wants to try is Celexa. It's an SSRI but I can't find enough material in a quick Google search to compare the two. (SSRI and TCA's that is.)

Ugh, sorry, forecast reports are calling. More on this later.

Hi ,My big concern here is that tricyclic antidepressantscan interfere with the metabolism (see drlowe.com) . .. and yes I would definitely get the free T3 and T4and both antibody tests done before starting any

anti-depressants because I feel pretty strongly thatthe thyroid has a lot to do with depression . . . fromwhat I know, hashi's can go into remission . . .good luck,Marlena

[Guest guest]

Hi Marlena,

That's part of my concern actually. I have a pretty jacked up metabolism anyway. But I think I can combat that with diet and exercise if I work them right.

The antidepressant my doc wants to try is Celexa. It's an SSRI but I can't find enough material in a quick Google search to compare the two. (SSRI and TCA's that is.)

Ugh, sorry, forecast reports are calling. More on this later.

Hi ,My big concern here is that tricyclic antidepressantscan interfere with the metabolism (see drlowe.com) . .. and yes I would definitely get the free T3 and T4and both antibody tests done before starting any

anti-depressants because I feel pretty strongly thatthe thyroid has a lot to do with depression . . . fromwhat I know, hashi's can go into remission . . .good luck,Marlena

[Guest guest]

But

> here are my questions:

> 1. Can hashi's go into remission or something similar?

Yes......Remission is considered antibody levels within normal

range. It is reported that 40% of autoimmune thyroiditis, graves and

hashi's, reaches " spontaniuos " remission. That is to say for no none

reason antibody levels just decline back to normal. Their is a catch

22 though, some of these remission cases are on meds, there are three

that have the best effect, prednisone, thyroid meds, and now

selenium. None of these show enough consistinsy of lowering

antibodies to be considered a " remission " causeing drug, which is why

you get into the gray areas of treating people with posiive

antibodies but seemingly normal thyroid function and the

classification of " spontanious " remission.

> 2. Given that hypothyroid and depression have a lot of common

symptoms (not

> talking here about depression being a symptom of

hypothyroid/autoimmune

> disorders, but the actual disease that shares a lot of symptoms) --

should I

> just treat the depression for a while and see what happens? To be

honest, I

> haven't had a flare in months. I haven't had the worst of my

thyroid

> symptoms in a long time. Is it possible I've been looking at the

wrong

> thing? Oh and the nutri-meds thing -- I wanted to be off it a while

to see

> if I could notice any difference in how I felt. Plus I want my labs

to be

> sans medication. If I need to medicate I'd rather do it through a

> pharmacist, you know?

Same route me and my wife are takeing in her case. Though I have a

limited amount of power when it comes to that decesion, . But yes

there can be a overlapping of the two problems.

> 3. I know, let you know when I get labs done. I will let you know

as soon

> as I have the results back.

> 4. What is your overall gut feeling/impression on this?

> Does this make sense? Feel free to ask questions if you want, as

I'm not

> sure I've stated this clearly.

> Thanks in advance for reading and considering.

> in LA

If your doc was saying that once the antibodies subside there is no

damage left over she is just wrong, there is a catch 22 there also

though....if it is absolutely true remission that is achevied the

thyroid can rejuvinate itself.

[Guest guest]

But

> here are my questions:

> 1. Can hashi's go into remission or something similar?

Yes......Remission is considered antibody levels within normal

range. It is reported that 40% of autoimmune thyroiditis, graves and

hashi's, reaches " spontaniuos " remission. That is to say for no none

reason antibody levels just decline back to normal. Their is a catch

22 though, some of these remission cases are on meds, there are three

that have the best effect, prednisone, thyroid meds, and now

selenium. None of these show enough consistinsy of lowering

antibodies to be considered a " remission " causeing drug, which is why

you get into the gray areas of treating people with posiive

antibodies but seemingly normal thyroid function and the

classification of " spontanious " remission.

> 2. Given that hypothyroid and depression have a lot of common

symptoms (not

> talking here about depression being a symptom of

hypothyroid/autoimmune

> disorders, but the actual disease that shares a lot of symptoms) --

should I

> just treat the depression for a while and see what happens? To be

honest, I

> haven't had a flare in months. I haven't had the worst of my

thyroid

> symptoms in a long time. Is it possible I've been looking at the

wrong

> thing? Oh and the nutri-meds thing -- I wanted to be off it a while

to see

> if I could notice any difference in how I felt. Plus I want my labs

to be

> sans medication. If I need to medicate I'd rather do it through a

> pharmacist, you know?

Same route me and my wife are takeing in her case. Though I have a

limited amount of power when it comes to that decesion, . But yes

there can be a overlapping of the two problems.

> 3. I know, let you know when I get labs done. I will let you know

as soon

> as I have the results back.

> 4. What is your overall gut feeling/impression on this?

> Does this make sense? Feel free to ask questions if you want, as

I'm not

> sure I've stated this clearly.

> Thanks in advance for reading and considering.

> in LA

If your doc was saying that once the antibodies subside there is no

damage left over she is just wrong, there is a catch 22 there also

though....if it is absolutely true remission that is achevied the

thyroid can rejuvinate itself.

[Guest guest]

But

> here are my questions:

> 1. Can hashi's go into remission or something similar?

Yes......Remission is considered antibody levels within normal

range. It is reported that 40% of autoimmune thyroiditis, graves and

hashi's, reaches " spontaniuos " remission. That is to say for no none

reason antibody levels just decline back to normal. Their is a catch

22 though, some of these remission cases are on meds, there are three

that have the best effect, prednisone, thyroid meds, and now

selenium. None of these show enough consistinsy of lowering

antibodies to be considered a " remission " causeing drug, which is why

you get into the gray areas of treating people with posiive

antibodies but seemingly normal thyroid function and the

classification of " spontanious " remission.

> 2. Given that hypothyroid and depression have a lot of common

symptoms (not

> talking here about depression being a symptom of

hypothyroid/autoimmune

> disorders, but the actual disease that shares a lot of symptoms) --

should I

> just treat the depression for a while and see what happens? To be

honest, I

> haven't had a flare in months. I haven't had the worst of my

thyroid

> symptoms in a long time. Is it possible I've been looking at the

wrong

> thing? Oh and the nutri-meds thing -- I wanted to be off it a while

to see

> if I could notice any difference in how I felt. Plus I want my labs

to be

> sans medication. If I need to medicate I'd rather do it through a

> pharmacist, you know?

Same route me and my wife are takeing in her case. Though I have a

limited amount of power when it comes to that decesion, . But yes

there can be a overlapping of the two problems.

> 3. I know, let you know when I get labs done. I will let you know

as soon

> as I have the results back.

> 4. What is your overall gut feeling/impression on this?

> Does this make sense? Feel free to ask questions if you want, as

I'm not

> sure I've stated this clearly.

> Thanks in advance for reading and considering.

> in LA

If your doc was saying that once the antibodies subside there is no

damage left over she is just wrong, there is a catch 22 there also

though....if it is absolutely true remission that is achevied the

thyroid can rejuvinate itself.

[Guest guest]

Ok, ((((((())))))) The silent one will get out the soapbox now!

Quite a few of the anti-depressants can and will wreak havoc with the thyroid.Lithium is probably the most known of the psychoactive that affects thyroid functioning negatively. Another that does is prozac.Also, there is so many in this area that cause significant weight gain AND carbohydrate cravings.In my experience, the antidepressants only work briefly. Depression connected with thyroid dysfunction is often the type that is called atypical.

My turn to pick brains - Hashi's, depression, and more!

Hi ever'body,

I need some input/advice here. Little background, I have Hashi's, was diagnosed oh about 5 years ago, treated for about a year and a half and haven't been treated since then. Started on Nutri-meds in December, and quit them last month. (I'll get to that in a minute.) Currently I'm in therapy, which I started because I got to the point where I was just non functional. I finally decided that even if it is my thyroid causing me to be weepy and lethargic, or even if the depression comes from the thyroid disease, that it would be helpful to deal with the symptoms to get me through.

So. I am talking to my therapist, and she wants to put me on antidepressants for a short while. I have my doubts in general about antidepressants, but I agree to talk to my doctor about it. In discussions with my doc, we reviewed my last set of labs (wherein I had a TSH of 1.8 but the lab neglected to do the Free's that she had ordered), and she said it's a good time to do them again. She says it's entirely possible that my Hashi's is just not acting up right now, and if it's not, then it doesn't need to be treated. I asked her if there was any long term "silent" damage that I might be causing by not treating it, and she said no. She did say, however, that we shoudl be doing labs every 3-4 months to keep an eye on it, ESPECIALLY because I'm clinically depressed and that the thryoid stuff can cause that.

Now, I am going to get my labs hopefully in the morning before work. But here are my questions:

1. Can hashi's go into remission or something similar? Hashi's has cycles of hyper and hypo until finally setting down into permanent hypo.

2. Given that hypothyroid and depression have a lot of common symptoms (not talking here about depression being a symptom of hypothyroid/autoimmune disorders, but the actual disease that shares a lot of symptoms) -- should I just treat the depression for a while and see what happens? To be honest, I haven't had a flare in months. I haven't had the worst of my thyroid symptoms in a long time. Is it possible I've been looking at the wrong thing? Oh and the nutri-meds thing -- I wanted to be off it a while to see if I could notice any difference in how I felt. Plus I want my labs to be sans medication. If I need to medicate I'd rather do it through a pharmacist, you know? answered above, with my opinion

3. I know, let you know when I get labs done. I will let you know as soon as I have the results back.Wonderful

4. What is your overall gut feeling/impression on this?Steer away from anti-depressants

Does this make sense? Feel free to ask questions if you want, as I'm not sure I've stated this clearly.Perfect sense, my friend!

Thanks in advance for reading and considering.

in LA

hugs,ThyroFeisty(Feisty)Proud Groups Co-ownerwww.thyrophoenix.comI like pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals. Sir Winston ChurchillBritish politician (1874 - 1965)

[Guest guest]

Ok, ((((((())))))) The silent one will get out the soapbox now!

Quite a few of the anti-depressants can and will wreak havoc with the thyroid.Lithium is probably the most known of the psychoactive that affects thyroid functioning negatively. Another that does is prozac.Also, there is so many in this area that cause significant weight gain AND carbohydrate cravings.In my experience, the antidepressants only work briefly. Depression connected with thyroid dysfunction is often the type that is called atypical.

My turn to pick brains - Hashi's, depression, and more!

Hi ever'body,

I need some input/advice here. Little background, I have Hashi's, was diagnosed oh about 5 years ago, treated for about a year and a half and haven't been treated since then. Started on Nutri-meds in December, and quit them last month. (I'll get to that in a minute.) Currently I'm in therapy, which I started because I got to the point where I was just non functional. I finally decided that even if it is my thyroid causing me to be weepy and lethargic, or even if the depression comes from the thyroid disease, that it would be helpful to deal with the symptoms to get me through.

So. I am talking to my therapist, and she wants to put me on antidepressants for a short while. I have my doubts in general about antidepressants, but I agree to talk to my doctor about it. In discussions with my doc, we reviewed my last set of labs (wherein I had a TSH of 1.8 but the lab neglected to do the Free's that she had ordered), and she said it's a good time to do them again. She says it's entirely possible that my Hashi's is just not acting up right now, and if it's not, then it doesn't need to be treated. I asked her if there was any long term "silent" damage that I might be causing by not treating it, and she said no. She did say, however, that we shoudl be doing labs every 3-4 months to keep an eye on it, ESPECIALLY because I'm clinically depressed and that the thryoid stuff can cause that.

Now, I am going to get my labs hopefully in the morning before work. But here are my questions:

1. Can hashi's go into remission or something similar? Hashi's has cycles of hyper and hypo until finally setting down into permanent hypo.

2. Given that hypothyroid and depression have a lot of common symptoms (not talking here about depression being a symptom of hypothyroid/autoimmune disorders, but the actual disease that shares a lot of symptoms) -- should I just treat the depression for a while and see what happens? To be honest, I haven't had a flare in months. I haven't had the worst of my thyroid symptoms in a long time. Is it possible I've been looking at the wrong thing? Oh and the nutri-meds thing -- I wanted to be off it a while to see if I could notice any difference in how I felt. Plus I want my labs to be sans medication. If I need to medicate I'd rather do it through a pharmacist, you know? answered above, with my opinion

3. I know, let you know when I get labs done. I will let you know as soon as I have the results back.Wonderful

4. What is your overall gut feeling/impression on this?Steer away from anti-depressants

Does this make sense? Feel free to ask questions if you want, as I'm not sure I've stated this clearly.Perfect sense, my friend!

Thanks in advance for reading and considering.

in LA

hugs,ThyroFeisty(Feisty)Proud Groups Co-ownerwww.thyrophoenix.comI like pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals. Sir Winston ChurchillBritish politician (1874 - 1965)

[Guest guest]

Ok, ((((((())))))) The silent one will get out the soapbox now!

Quite a few of the anti-depressants can and will wreak havoc with the thyroid.Lithium is probably the most known of the psychoactive that affects thyroid functioning negatively. Another that does is prozac.Also, there is so many in this area that cause significant weight gain AND carbohydrate cravings.In my experience, the antidepressants only work briefly. Depression connected with thyroid dysfunction is often the type that is called atypical.

My turn to pick brains - Hashi's, depression, and more!

Hi ever'body,

I need some input/advice here. Little background, I have Hashi's, was diagnosed oh about 5 years ago, treated for about a year and a half and haven't been treated since then. Started on Nutri-meds in December, and quit them last month. (I'll get to that in a minute.) Currently I'm in therapy, which I started because I got to the point where I was just non functional. I finally decided that even if it is my thyroid causing me to be weepy and lethargic, or even if the depression comes from the thyroid disease, that it would be helpful to deal with the symptoms to get me through.

So. I am talking to my therapist, and she wants to put me on antidepressants for a short while. I have my doubts in general about antidepressants, but I agree to talk to my doctor about it. In discussions with my doc, we reviewed my last set of labs (wherein I had a TSH of 1.8 but the lab neglected to do the Free's that she had ordered), and she said it's a good time to do them again. She says it's entirely possible that my Hashi's is just not acting up right now, and if it's not, then it doesn't need to be treated. I asked her if there was any long term "silent" damage that I might be causing by not treating it, and she said no. She did say, however, that we shoudl be doing labs every 3-4 months to keep an eye on it, ESPECIALLY because I'm clinically depressed and that the thryoid stuff can cause that.

Now, I am going to get my labs hopefully in the morning before work. But here are my questions:

1. Can hashi's go into remission or something similar? Hashi's has cycles of hyper and hypo until finally setting down into permanent hypo.

2. Given that hypothyroid and depression have a lot of common symptoms (not talking here about depression being a symptom of hypothyroid/autoimmune disorders, but the actual disease that shares a lot of symptoms) -- should I just treat the depression for a while and see what happens? To be honest, I haven't had a flare in months. I haven't had the worst of my thyroid symptoms in a long time. Is it possible I've been looking at the wrong thing? Oh and the nutri-meds thing -- I wanted to be off it a while to see if I could notice any difference in how I felt. Plus I want my labs to be sans medication. If I need to medicate I'd rather do it through a pharmacist, you know? answered above, with my opinion

3. I know, let you know when I get labs done. I will let you know as soon as I have the results back.Wonderful

4. What is your overall gut feeling/impression on this?Steer away from anti-depressants

Does this make sense? Feel free to ask questions if you want, as I'm not sure I've stated this clearly.Perfect sense, my friend!

Thanks in advance for reading and considering.

in LA

hugs,ThyroFeisty(Feisty)Proud Groups Co-ownerwww.thyrophoenix.comI like pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals. Sir Winston ChurchillBritish politician (1874 - 1965)

[Guest guest]

Hi , and thanks.

I guess my big question is, did I have the depression before I developed the thyroid disease (who knows for sure?) and are they independent of each other? Is it possible that I should have had the depression treated 20 years ago (likely) and the thyroid thing is something else? I don't know and I don't know if there's any way to figure that out. But it's what I'm considering at this point.

She's talking about doing the Celexa on a short cycle -- like 6-8 weeks, not a permanent thing, then working me back off of it. I actually like that plan, because if it IS depression, then I'll get the benefit of a drug with a short half life. A nd if it isn't, or if I feel worse somehow, it will be out of my system fairly quickly as well. I dunno, we'll see.

**hugs**

Ok, ((((((())))))) The silent one will get out the soapbox now!

Quite a few of the anti-depressants can and will wreak havoc with the thyroid.Lithium is probably the most known of the psychoactive that affects thyroid functioning negatively. Another that does is prozac.Also, there is so many in this area that cause significant weight gain AND carbohydrate cravings. In my experience, the antidepressants only work briefly. Depression connected with thyroid dysfunction is often the type that is called atypical.

[Guest guest]

Hi , and thanks.

I guess my big question is, did I have the depression before I developed the thyroid disease (who knows for sure?) and are they independent of each other? Is it possible that I should have had the depression treated 20 years ago (likely) and the thyroid thing is something else? I don't know and I don't know if there's any way to figure that out. But it's what I'm considering at this point.

She's talking about doing the Celexa on a short cycle -- like 6-8 weeks, not a permanent thing, then working me back off of it. I actually like that plan, because if it IS depression, then I'll get the benefit of a drug with a short half life. A nd if it isn't, or if I feel worse somehow, it will be out of my system fairly quickly as well. I dunno, we'll see.

**hugs**

Ok, ((((((())))))) The silent one will get out the soapbox now!

Quite a few of the anti-depressants can and will wreak havoc with the thyroid.Lithium is probably the most known of the psychoactive that affects thyroid functioning negatively. Another that does is prozac.Also, there is so many in this area that cause significant weight gain AND carbohydrate cravings. In my experience, the antidepressants only work briefly. Depression connected with thyroid dysfunction is often the type that is called atypical.

[Guest guest]

Hi , and thanks.

I guess my big question is, did I have the depression before I developed the thyroid disease (who knows for sure?) and are they independent of each other? Is it possible that I should have had the depression treated 20 years ago (likely) and the thyroid thing is something else? I don't know and I don't know if there's any way to figure that out. But it's what I'm considering at this point.

She's talking about doing the Celexa on a short cycle -- like 6-8 weeks, not a permanent thing, then working me back off of it. I actually like that plan, because if it IS depression, then I'll get the benefit of a drug with a short half life. A nd if it isn't, or if I feel worse somehow, it will be out of my system fairly quickly as well. I dunno, we'll see.

**hugs**

Ok, ((((((())))))) The silent one will get out the soapbox now!

Quite a few of the anti-depressants can and will wreak havoc with the thyroid.Lithium is probably the most known of the psychoactive that affects thyroid functioning negatively. Another that does is prozac.Also, there is so many in this area that cause significant weight gain AND carbohydrate cravings. In my experience, the antidepressants only work briefly. Depression connected with thyroid dysfunction is often the type that is called atypical.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I have lived with Hashimoto's Disease now for over 15 years...more

than likely 20+, however it was not diagnosed until 1989 or so.

Yes. Hashi's will give you and your doctor the impression that it

has gone into submission....NOT!!! Is there a cure for

Hashimoto's...NO, it is an autoimmune disease, once it has started

Hashi's will be lerking in your physical life the rest of your

bodies time on this earth. I have yet to see any one tell me, with

research to back up their beliefs, that the Thyroid can regenerate

itself from the damage done to the gland from the antibodies killing

off of the living tissues. (This not withstanding any stem cell

research that I have not read about yet).

Can depression be caused by a quiet Hashi's disease...YOU BET IT

CAN!!! I am living proof that depression is a symptom of a bodies

inability to produce and/or balance its own bodies hormone levels. I

tried antidepressants...they didn't work, sure for a while mentally

I was in a better place, but never all the way back to the me of

before Hashi's. It took getting my Thryoid levels up into the

theraputic levels for me to get my life back into my control and to

actually laugh, smile, enjoy life.

Can a bodies ill feeling, lack of energy, loss of hair, loss of

libito, loss of want, be a result of lack of a bodies balanced

Thyroid hormones....YEP!!! It was at this point that I was finally

diagnosed... I had lost quite a bit of weight, which was what I was

working towards, diet and exercise wise, HOWEVER, I was losing hair

down the drain by the handfulls. I would come home, have a small

plate of pasta and quite literally fall asleep with my head right

beside my dish on the table or sofa, if I were watching the evening

news while I ate supper...wake up 30-40 minutes later and not even

remember falling asleep...and no I don't have the sleeping disease.

This is typical Hashi's. Plain and simple. My levels tested out all

within the normal ranges...LUCKILY I had gone to a specialist and he

started treatment based upon what I said and felt...not upon

the " normal lab results " . Sure enough, three months later the

antibodies showed up at an extremely high level...thus began the

roller coaster of my Hashi's swings. It took almost 6 months of

SLOWLY raising my med levels before I began to feel a bit like me.

Only to go through another Hashi's swing...hypo to hyper (with all

the hyper symptoms) back to Hypo to hyper to hypo ... etc.

The depression began to lift as my body began to feel better and

heal better, as the necessary Thryoid hormones were finally being

given to my body.

At the very least this group has given me my first group of people

that were and are able to understand what I have gone through. They

have offered me suggestions on what treatments they have found

worked for them. This group has taught me to look at the whole

picture as well as at the individual pieces that are effected by the

Thyroid gland and its hormones... The support of the Adrenal gland,

the taking of Selenium, folic acid, calcium, iron, Super B complex

vitamins, as well as a high quality multi vitamin. What my body

doesn't need, for the most part, it just throws it out in the urine

and feces.

You also have to feed your body differently than you did before.

High quality food in smaller amounts, more frequently. Some of us do

the best when we split our meals into two meals...say five or six

times a day. For me I break each of my meals up into two parts, thus

the six meals. Its easier on the body to have a constant supply of

energy food than to go for long terms of fasting. Now, a piece of

advice...GET RID OF ANY FAST FOOD in your monthly eatting schedule.

Get rid of any CHOCOLATE, COFFEE, TEA, anything with caffine, or

residuals or traces of caffine in it. Get rid of all sources of

SUGAR!!! Sugar is not a natural food...it causes the body to use up

all kinds of energy for absolutely no nutritional value what so

ever!!!

Now, Are your questions good? They are GREAT!!! It means that you

are thinking and wanting to improve.

I don't know if anyone has suggested these sites for reading

material however I found them to be very helpful in understanding

what was/is happening in and to my body.

about.thyroid.com

www.thryophoenix.com

Let us know how your test turn out...

We are here for you and a great many of us are or have gone through

what you are going through right now.

Take care!!!

Gossimer

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I have lived with Hashimoto's Disease now for over 15 years...more

than likely 20+, however it was not diagnosed until 1989 or so.

Yes. Hashi's will give you and your doctor the impression that it

has gone into submission....NOT!!! Is there a cure for

Hashimoto's...NO, it is an autoimmune disease, once it has started

Hashi's will be lerking in your physical life the rest of your

bodies time on this earth. I have yet to see any one tell me, with

research to back up their beliefs, that the Thyroid can regenerate

itself from the damage done to the gland from the antibodies killing

off of the living tissues. (This not withstanding any stem cell

research that I have not read about yet).

Can depression be caused by a quiet Hashi's disease...YOU BET IT

CAN!!! I am living proof that depression is a symptom of a bodies

inability to produce and/or balance its own bodies hormone levels. I

tried antidepressants...they didn't work, sure for a while mentally

I was in a better place, but never all the way back to the me of

before Hashi's. It took getting my Thryoid levels up into the

theraputic levels for me to get my life back into my control and to

actually laugh, smile, enjoy life.

Can a bodies ill feeling, lack of energy, loss of hair, loss of

libito, loss of want, be a result of lack of a bodies balanced

Thyroid hormones....YEP!!! It was at this point that I was finally

diagnosed... I had lost quite a bit of weight, which was what I was

working towards, diet and exercise wise, HOWEVER, I was losing hair

down the drain by the handfulls. I would come home, have a small

plate of pasta and quite literally fall asleep with my head right

beside my dish on the table or sofa, if I were watching the evening

news while I ate supper...wake up 30-40 minutes later and not even

remember falling asleep...and no I don't have the sleeping disease.

This is typical Hashi's. Plain and simple. My levels tested out all

within the normal ranges...LUCKILY I had gone to a specialist and he

started treatment based upon what I said and felt...not upon

the " normal lab results " . Sure enough, three months later the

antibodies showed up at an extremely high level...thus began the

roller coaster of my Hashi's swings. It took almost 6 months of

SLOWLY raising my med levels before I began to feel a bit like me.

Only to go through another Hashi's swing...hypo to hyper (with all

the hyper symptoms) back to Hypo to hyper to hypo ... etc.

The depression began to lift as my body began to feel better and

heal better, as the necessary Thryoid hormones were finally being

given to my body.

At the very least this group has given me my first group of people

that were and are able to understand what I have gone through. They

have offered me suggestions on what treatments they have found

worked for them. This group has taught me to look at the whole

picture as well as at the individual pieces that are effected by the

Thyroid gland and its hormones... The support of the Adrenal gland,

the taking of Selenium, folic acid, calcium, iron, Super B complex

vitamins, as well as a high quality multi vitamin. What my body

doesn't need, for the most part, it just throws it out in the urine

and feces.

You also have to feed your body differently than you did before.

High quality food in smaller amounts, more frequently. Some of us do

the best when we split our meals into two meals...say five or six

times a day. For me I break each of my meals up into two parts, thus

the six meals. Its easier on the body to have a constant supply of

energy food than to go for long terms of fasting. Now, a piece of

advice...GET RID OF ANY FAST FOOD in your monthly eatting schedule.

Get rid of any CHOCOLATE, COFFEE, TEA, anything with caffine, or

residuals or traces of caffine in it. Get rid of all sources of

SUGAR!!! Sugar is not a natural food...it causes the body to use up

all kinds of energy for absolutely no nutritional value what so

ever!!!

Now, Are your questions good? They are GREAT!!! It means that you

are thinking and wanting to improve.

I don't know if anyone has suggested these sites for reading

material however I found them to be very helpful in understanding

what was/is happening in and to my body.

about.thyroid.com

www.thryophoenix.com

Let us know how your test turn out...

We are here for you and a great many of us are or have gone through

what you are going through right now.

Take care!!!

Gossimer

[Guest guest]

Hi . My advice to you is...get your thyroid stuff figured out

first.

My experience with depression and thyroid could have killed me. For

years I had Seasonal Affective Disorder. Nothing was really working

for the disorder so I decided I would go into a study group at the

local hospital. When I started the group they tested EVERYTHING and

EVERYTHING came out with in normal ranges and/or negative.

Near the end of the study, in March (my usual time to get better) my

depression was so bad I was taking a handful of pills twice a day

(prescribed) just to get through life and to sleep. Normally at this

time I would be getting ready for spring and my depression would go

away. Suddenly, I dropped 30 lbs and my doctor was stumped, and

ordered more meds to combat my depression. I kept losing weight and

felt suicidal. It was the most awful feeling. My body had shut down

also. I was in so much pain I was taking painkillers. Not only that,

I thought I was going crazy (not just depressed) and was suffereing

from extreme anxiety...so I think you might have guessed, the doctor

gave me ativan for the anxious feelings. Okay, so here I was taking

two different antidepressants, sleeping pills, painkillers, and

anxiety pills (which are highly addictive). Finally, in August of

2003 my doctor ordered thyroid tests because he thought I was hyper.

When the test came back my TSH was at 37. Somewhere between Sept of

2002 and August 2003 my thyroid went bezerk. From Sept 2003 to March

2004 I took all those meds PLUS my synthroid 100mg everyday. In March

I decided to go off EVERYTHING, including the synthroid. It was a

hellish year, let me tell you. This March I started taking natural

Thryroid (1grain) everyday. I am not taking anything else besides the

occasional advil for my aches and pains. I am still not feeling my

best, but I am much better and enjoying my life. I get out to the

beach, mountains, or parks almost everyday. I play with my kids as

much as they will let me as all three are teenage boys. I work, HARD

( I work with developmentally disabled adults)!! Life is good and

will be better when I figure out my dosage for the natural.

Sparrow

[Guest guest]

Hi . My advice to you is...get your thyroid stuff figured out

first.

My experience with depression and thyroid could have killed me. For

years I had Seasonal Affective Disorder. Nothing was really working

for the disorder so I decided I would go into a study group at the

local hospital. When I started the group they tested EVERYTHING and

EVERYTHING came out with in normal ranges and/or negative.

Near the end of the study, in March (my usual time to get better) my

depression was so bad I was taking a handful of pills twice a day

(prescribed) just to get through life and to sleep. Normally at this

time I would be getting ready for spring and my depression would go

away. Suddenly, I dropped 30 lbs and my doctor was stumped, and

ordered more meds to combat my depression. I kept losing weight and

felt suicidal. It was the most awful feeling. My body had shut down

also. I was in so much pain I was taking painkillers. Not only that,

I thought I was going crazy (not just depressed) and was suffereing

from extreme anxiety...so I think you might have guessed, the doctor

gave me ativan for the anxious feelings. Okay, so here I was taking

two different antidepressants, sleeping pills, painkillers, and

anxiety pills (which are highly addictive). Finally, in August of

2003 my doctor ordered thyroid tests because he thought I was hyper.

When the test came back my TSH was at 37. Somewhere between Sept of

2002 and August 2003 my thyroid went bezerk. From Sept 2003 to March

2004 I took all those meds PLUS my synthroid 100mg everyday. In March

I decided to go off EVERYTHING, including the synthroid. It was a

hellish year, let me tell you. This March I started taking natural

Thryroid (1grain) everyday. I am not taking anything else besides the

occasional advil for my aches and pains. I am still not feeling my

best, but I am much better and enjoying my life. I get out to the

beach, mountains, or parks almost everyday. I play with my kids as

much as they will let me as all three are teenage boys. I work, HARD

( I work with developmentally disabled adults)!! Life is good and

will be better when I figure out my dosage for the natural.

Sparrow

[Guest guest]

Hi . My advice to you is...get your thyroid stuff figured out

first.

My experience with depression and thyroid could have killed me. For

years I had Seasonal Affective Disorder. Nothing was really working

for the disorder so I decided I would go into a study group at the

local hospital. When I started the group they tested EVERYTHING and

EVERYTHING came out with in normal ranges and/or negative.

Near the end of the study, in March (my usual time to get better) my

depression was so bad I was taking a handful of pills twice a day

(prescribed) just to get through life and to sleep. Normally at this

time I would be getting ready for spring and my depression would go

away. Suddenly, I dropped 30 lbs and my doctor was stumped, and

ordered more meds to combat my depression. I kept losing weight and

felt suicidal. It was the most awful feeling. My body had shut down

also. I was in so much pain I was taking painkillers. Not only that,

I thought I was going crazy (not just depressed) and was suffereing

from extreme anxiety...so I think you might have guessed, the doctor

gave me ativan for the anxious feelings. Okay, so here I was taking

two different antidepressants, sleeping pills, painkillers, and

anxiety pills (which are highly addictive). Finally, in August of

2003 my doctor ordered thyroid tests because he thought I was hyper.

When the test came back my TSH was at 37. Somewhere between Sept of

2002 and August 2003 my thyroid went bezerk. From Sept 2003 to March

2004 I took all those meds PLUS my synthroid 100mg everyday. In March

I decided to go off EVERYTHING, including the synthroid. It was a

hellish year, let me tell you. This March I started taking natural

Thryroid (1grain) everyday. I am not taking anything else besides the

occasional advil for my aches and pains. I am still not feeling my

best, but I am much better and enjoying my life. I get out to the

beach, mountains, or parks almost everyday. I play with my kids as

much as they will let me as all three are teenage boys. I work, HARD

( I work with developmentally disabled adults)!! Life is good and

will be better when I figure out my dosage for the natural.

Sparrow

[Guest guest]

Hi sparrow,

Thanks for taking the time to answer.

I won't know til my bloodwork is done, but the really weird thing is

it's seeming like my thyroid is OK for now. So I guess we get

bloodwork back and see what it says too. Cuz honestly I feel

pretty good. I think that's the confusing part.

More to follow when I get labs done,

in LA

Hi . My advice to you is...get your thyroid stuff figured out

first.

My experience with depression and thyroid could have killed me. For

years I had Seasonal Affective Disorder. Nothing was really working

for the disorder so I decided I would go into a study group at the

local hospital. (snip) Life is good and

will be better when I figure out my dosage for the natural.

Sparrow

[Guest guest]

Hi sparrow,

Thanks for taking the time to answer.

I won't know til my bloodwork is done, but the really weird thing is

it's seeming like my thyroid is OK for now. So I guess we get

bloodwork back and see what it says too. Cuz honestly I feel

pretty good. I think that's the confusing part.

More to follow when I get labs done,

in LA

Hi . My advice to you is...get your thyroid stuff figured out

first.

My experience with depression and thyroid could have killed me. For

years I had Seasonal Affective Disorder. Nothing was really working

for the disorder so I decided I would go into a study group at the

local hospital. (snip) Life is good and

will be better when I figure out my dosage for the natural.

Sparrow

[Guest guest]

Hi Sparrow,

I was really interested to read this.

My symptoms got so bad during the winter that 9 years

ago my doc diagnosed SAD. He gave me Seroxat to take

but I only took 4 tablets as on the fourth day I

started hallucinating. I used light treatment from

then on. I had thyroid tests too which my GP assured

me were normal.

Another problem during these winter months was double

vision. I had all sorts of tests for that but as it

always diappeared in the summer no one was able to

find a cause.

Like you the spring brought a burst of energy but in

2003 none came. By the winter of that year I couldn't

even climb the stairs at home.

Since taking thyroxine I've had no more problems with

double vision during the winter months, and I hope

adding in T3 will sort out the remaining symptoms.

Somewhere I have an article that links the lack of T3

with winter depressions, if you are interested I will

try and find it.

--- Sparrow wrote:

> Hi . My advice to you is...get your thyroid

> stuff figured out

> first.

> My experience with depression and thyroid could have

> killed me. For

> years I had Seasonal Affective Disorder. Nothing was

> really working

> for the disorder so I decided I would go into a

> study group at the

> local hospital. When I started the group they tested

> EVERYTHING and

> EVERYTHING came out with in normal ranges and/or

> negative.

> Near the end of the study, in March (my usual time

> to get better) my

> depression was so bad I was taking a handful of

> pills twice a day

> (prescribed) just to get through life and to sleep.

> Normally at this

> time I would be getting ready for spring and my

> depression would go

> away. Suddenly, I dropped 30 lbs and my doctor was

> stumped, and

> ordered more meds to combat my depression. I kept

> losing weight and

> felt suicidal. It was the most awful feeling. My

> body had shut down

> also. I was in so much pain I was taking

> painkillers. Not only that,

> I thought I was going crazy (not just depressed) and

> was suffereing

> from extreme anxiety...so I think you might have

> guessed, the doctor

> gave me ativan for the anxious feelings. Okay, so

> here I was taking

> two different antidepressants, sleeping pills,

> painkillers, and

> anxiety pills (which are highly addictive). Finally,

> in August of

> 2003 my doctor ordered thyroid tests because he

> thought I was hyper.

> When the test came back my TSH was at 37. Somewhere

> between Sept of

> 2002 and August 2003 my thyroid went bezerk. From

> Sept 2003 to March

> 2004 I took all those meds PLUS my synthroid 100mg

> everyday. In March

> I decided to go off EVERYTHING, including the

> synthroid. It was a

> hellish year, let me tell you. This March I started

> taking natural

> Thryroid (1grain) everyday. I am not taking anything

> else besides the

> occasional advil for my aches and pains. I am still

> not feeling my

> best, but I am much better and enjoying my life. I

> get out to the

> beach, mountains, or parks almost everyday. I play

> with my kids as

> much as they will let me as all three are teenage

> boys. I work, HARD

> ( I work with developmentally disabled adults)!!

> Life is good and

> will be better when I figure out my dosage for the

> natural.

>

> Sparrow

>

>

>

____________________________________________________

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[Guest guest]

Hi Sparrow,

I was really interested to read this.

My symptoms got so bad during the winter that 9 years

ago my doc diagnosed SAD. He gave me Seroxat to take

but I only took 4 tablets as on the fourth day I

started hallucinating. I used light treatment from

then on. I had thyroid tests too which my GP assured

me were normal.

Another problem during these winter months was double

vision. I had all sorts of tests for that but as it

always diappeared in the summer no one was able to

find a cause.

Like you the spring brought a burst of energy but in

2003 none came. By the winter of that year I couldn't

even climb the stairs at home.

Since taking thyroxine I've had no more problems with

double vision during the winter months, and I hope

adding in T3 will sort out the remaining symptoms.

Somewhere I have an article that links the lack of T3

with winter depressions, if you are interested I will

try and find it.

--- Sparrow wrote:

> Hi . My advice to you is...get your thyroid

> stuff figured out

> first.

> My experience with depression and thyroid could have

> killed me. For

> years I had Seasonal Affective Disorder. Nothing was

> really working

> for the disorder so I decided I would go into a

> study group at the

> local hospital. When I started the group they tested

> EVERYTHING and

> EVERYTHING came out with in normal ranges and/or

> negative.

> Near the end of the study, in March (my usual time

> to get better) my

> depression was so bad I was taking a handful of

> pills twice a day

> (prescribed) just to get through life and to sleep.

> Normally at this

> time I would be getting ready for spring and my

> depression would go

> away. Suddenly, I dropped 30 lbs and my doctor was

> stumped, and

> ordered more meds to combat my depression. I kept

> losing weight and

> felt suicidal. It was the most awful feeling. My

> body had shut down

> also. I was in so much pain I was taking

> painkillers. Not only that,

> I thought I was going crazy (not just depressed) and

> was suffereing

> from extreme anxiety...so I think you might have

> guessed, the doctor

> gave me ativan for the anxious feelings. Okay, so

> here I was taking

> two different antidepressants, sleeping pills,

> painkillers, and

> anxiety pills (which are highly addictive). Finally,

> in August of

> 2003 my doctor ordered thyroid tests because he

> thought I was hyper.

> When the test came back my TSH was at 37. Somewhere

> between Sept of

> 2002 and August 2003 my thyroid went bezerk. From

> Sept 2003 to March

> 2004 I took all those meds PLUS my synthroid 100mg

> everyday. In March

> I decided to go off EVERYTHING, including the

> synthroid. It was a

> hellish year, let me tell you. This March I started

> taking natural

> Thryroid (1grain) everyday. I am not taking anything

> else besides the

> occasional advil for my aches and pains. I am still

> not feeling my

> best, but I am much better and enjoying my life. I

> get out to the

> beach, mountains, or parks almost everyday. I play

> with my kids as

> much as they will let me as all three are teenage

> boys. I work, HARD

> ( I work with developmentally disabled adults)!!

> Life is good and

> will be better when I figure out my dosage for the

> natural.

>

> Sparrow

>

>

>

____________________________________________________

Sell on Yahoo! Auctions – no fees. Bid on great items.

http://auctions.yahoo.com/

[Guest guest]

Hi Sparrow,

I was really interested to read this.

My symptoms got so bad during the winter that 9 years

ago my doc diagnosed SAD. He gave me Seroxat to take

but I only took 4 tablets as on the fourth day I

started hallucinating. I used light treatment from

then on. I had thyroid tests too which my GP assured

me were normal.

Another problem during these winter months was double

vision. I had all sorts of tests for that but as it

always diappeared in the summer no one was able to

find a cause.

Like you the spring brought a burst of energy but in

2003 none came. By the winter of that year I couldn't

even climb the stairs at home.

Since taking thyroxine I've had no more problems with

double vision during the winter months, and I hope

adding in T3 will sort out the remaining symptoms.

Somewhere I have an article that links the lack of T3

with winter depressions, if you are interested I will

try and find it.

--- Sparrow wrote:

> Hi . My advice to you is...get your thyroid

> stuff figured out

> first.

> My experience with depression and thyroid could have

> killed me. For

> years I had Seasonal Affective Disorder. Nothing was

> really working

> for the disorder so I decided I would go into a

> study group at the

> local hospital. When I started the group they tested

> EVERYTHING and

> EVERYTHING came out with in normal ranges and/or

> negative.

> Near the end of the study, in March (my usual time

> to get better) my

> depression was so bad I was taking a handful of

> pills twice a day

> (prescribed) just to get through life and to sleep.

> Normally at this

> time I would be getting ready for spring and my

> depression would go

> away. Suddenly, I dropped 30 lbs and my doctor was

> stumped, and

> ordered more meds to combat my depression. I kept

> losing weight and

> felt suicidal. It was the most awful feeling. My

> body had shut down

> also. I was in so much pain I was taking

> painkillers. Not only that,

> I thought I was going crazy (not just depressed) and

> was suffereing

> from extreme anxiety...so I think you might have

> guessed, the doctor

> gave me ativan for the anxious feelings. Okay, so

> here I was taking

> two different antidepressants, sleeping pills,

> painkillers, and

> anxiety pills (which are highly addictive). Finally,

> in August of

> 2003 my doctor ordered thyroid tests because he

> thought I was hyper.

> When the test came back my TSH was at 37. Somewhere

> between Sept of

> 2002 and August 2003 my thyroid went bezerk. From

> Sept 2003 to March

> 2004 I took all those meds PLUS my synthroid 100mg

> everyday. In March

> I decided to go off EVERYTHING, including the

> synthroid. It was a

> hellish year, let me tell you. This March I started

> taking natural

> Thryroid (1grain) everyday. I am not taking anything

> else besides the

> occasional advil for my aches and pains. I am still

> not feeling my

> best, but I am much better and enjoying my life. I

> get out to the

> beach, mountains, or parks almost everyday. I play

> with my kids as

> much as they will let me as all three are teenage

> boys. I work, HARD

> ( I work with developmentally disabled adults)!!

> Life is good and

> will be better when I figure out my dosage for the

> natural.

>

> Sparrow

>

>

>

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My latest opthamologist told me that hashimoto's can cause my vision to act

" crazy " I am thinking that the level of thyroid hormones affect this, like

the blood sugar levels affect the vision in someone who is diabetic.

It seems that more thyroid hormones are needed in winter or in times of

illness(like a diabetic with insulin )

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Feisty

Re: Re: My turn to pick brains -

Hashi's, depression, and more!

> Hi Sparrow,

> I was really interested to read this.

> My symptoms got so bad during the winter that 9 years

> ago my doc diagnosed SAD. He gave me Seroxat to take

> but I only took 4 tablets as on the fourth day I

> started hallucinating. I used light treatment from

> then on. I had thyroid tests too which my GP assured

> me were normal.

> Another problem during these winter months was double

> vision. I had all sorts of tests for that but as it

> always diappeared in the summer no one was able to

> find a cause.

> Like you the spring brought a burst of energy but in

> 2003 none came. By the winter of that year I couldn't

> even climb the stairs at home.

> Since taking thyroxine I've had no more problems with

> double vision during the winter months, and I hope

> adding in T3 will sort out the remaining symptoms.

> Somewhere I have an article that links the lack of T3

> with winter depressions, if you are interested I will

> try and find it.

>

>

>

> --- Sparrow wrote:

>

> > Hi . My advice to you is...get your thyroid

> > stuff figured out

> > first.

> > My experience with depression and thyroid could have

> > killed me. For

> > years I had Seasonal Affective Disorder. Nothing was

> > really working

> > for the disorder so I decided I would go into a

> > study group at the

> > local hospital. When I started the group they tested

> > EVERYTHING and

> > EVERYTHING came out with in normal ranges and/or

> > negative.

> > Near the end of the study, in March (my usual time

> > to get better) my

> > depression was so bad I was taking a handful of

> > pills twice a day

> > (prescribed) just to get through life and to sleep.

> > Normally at this

> > time I would be getting ready for spring and my

> > depression would go

> > away. Suddenly, I dropped 30 lbs and my doctor was

> > stumped, and

> > ordered more meds to combat my depression. I kept

> > losing weight and

> > felt suicidal. It was the most awful feeling. My

> > body had shut down

> > also. I was in so much pain I was taking

> > painkillers. Not only that,

> > I thought I was going crazy (not just depressed) and

> > was suffereing

> > from extreme anxiety...so I think you might have

> > guessed, the doctor

> > gave me ativan for the anxious feelings. Okay, so

> > here I was taking

> > two different antidepressants, sleeping pills,

> > painkillers, and

> > anxiety pills (which are highly addictive). Finally,

> > in August of

> > 2003 my doctor ordered thyroid tests because he

> > thought I was hyper.

> > When the test came back my TSH was at 37. Somewhere

> > between Sept of

> > 2002 and August 2003 my thyroid went bezerk. From

> > Sept 2003 to March

> > 2004 I took all those meds PLUS my synthroid 100mg

> > everyday. In March

> > I decided to go off EVERYTHING, including the

> > synthroid. It was a

> > hellish year, let me tell you. This March I started

> > taking natural

> > Thryroid (1grain) everyday. I am not taking anything

> > else besides the

> > occasional advil for my aches and pains. I am still

> > not feeling my

> > best, but I am much better and enjoying my life. I

> > get out to the

> > beach, mountains, or parks almost everyday. I play

> > with my kids as

> > much as they will let me as all three are teenage

> > boys. I work, HARD

> > ( I work with developmentally disabled adults)!!

> > Life is good and

> > will be better when I figure out my dosage for the

> > natural.

> >

> > Sparrow

> >

> >

> >

>

>

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