Guest guest Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 " sabyrah76 " wrote: > > Am new to this group and recently purchased Andy's book, so have > barely skimmed a few sections. > > Was reading the bit about exposure and urin testing and was wondering: > > 1. Besides amalagams, eye drops, and vaccines...where is all this > mercury coming from??? Mostly amalgam - a conservative estimate is that 70% of most peoples body burden of mercury comes from amalgam (World Health Organization). But there is some mercury in fish too. That doesn't mean you should give up eating fish - just that you should educate yourself on what fish to eat, and what fish to avoid. > 2. When people chealate, and they pee out all their mercury...isn't > THAT mercury dangerous to other people? No. Most of it comes out in urine/stools which goes down the toilet into the sewage system where it is treated and put back into the ecosystem. Its a tiny amount which gets distributed over a very large area. What is more dangerous is cremation of people with fillings which can be a significant enviromental hazzard. > 2.1 Does it get filtered or is it in tap water? Its not in tap water. The reason its a problem in fish is because of bioaccumulation - mercury concentrates up the food chain. > 2.2 Do regular people need a special water filter? And if so what is > the best ones? Not for mercury. For other stuff it may be helpful. The worst thing in tap water generally is chlorine (which they put in to kill germs). Most countries have strict regulations on the amount of heavy metals allowed in tap water. Unfortunately those same countries will allow mercury to be injected into babies or implanted into the mouths of children where it magically becomes safe. > 3. Do all people who have had amalagams have to consider being > mercury toxic? What if they don't have any symptoms??? Anyone who has ever had an amalgam has mercury in their body/brain. Also many people who have never had an amalgam. Most people don't develop overt symptoms of mercury toxicity, though how many people have low-level symptoms and/or go on to develop serious diseases which they otherwise wouldn't have is anyone's guess. > On this latter question, I will explain that I ask because I recently > (2 weeks and one day ago) had all 4 of my fillings (2 mouth areas) > removed by a regular dentist. I had had them maybe 15 years (I'm 30). Its not really recommended to have mercury fillings removed by a regular dentist as you will get a larger exposure of mercury. > Prior to the removal, I have generally been healthy with maybe 1 > illness (flu / other respiratory) annually, which I consider pretty > good with 2 young children. Thats good going. > I guess what I am really asking is, in the absence of symptomology, > should I be concerned / worried? Thats a difficult question to answer. The truth is we should all be concerned. The good news is that you are no better/worse off than anyone else in the general population. The bad news is that mercury is implicated in many disease conditions. > Thanks all and hope everyone is on their way to a great weekend, > Judy You too, . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 " sabyrah76 " wrote: > > Am new to this group and recently purchased Andy's book, so have > barely skimmed a few sections. > > Was reading the bit about exposure and urin testing and was wondering: > > 1. Besides amalagams, eye drops, and vaccines...where is all this > mercury coming from??? Mostly amalgam - a conservative estimate is that 70% of most peoples body burden of mercury comes from amalgam (World Health Organization). But there is some mercury in fish too. That doesn't mean you should give up eating fish - just that you should educate yourself on what fish to eat, and what fish to avoid. > 2. When people chealate, and they pee out all their mercury...isn't > THAT mercury dangerous to other people? No. Most of it comes out in urine/stools which goes down the toilet into the sewage system where it is treated and put back into the ecosystem. Its a tiny amount which gets distributed over a very large area. What is more dangerous is cremation of people with fillings which can be a significant enviromental hazzard. > 2.1 Does it get filtered or is it in tap water? Its not in tap water. The reason its a problem in fish is because of bioaccumulation - mercury concentrates up the food chain. > 2.2 Do regular people need a special water filter? And if so what is > the best ones? Not for mercury. For other stuff it may be helpful. The worst thing in tap water generally is chlorine (which they put in to kill germs). Most countries have strict regulations on the amount of heavy metals allowed in tap water. Unfortunately those same countries will allow mercury to be injected into babies or implanted into the mouths of children where it magically becomes safe. > 3. Do all people who have had amalagams have to consider being > mercury toxic? What if they don't have any symptoms??? Anyone who has ever had an amalgam has mercury in their body/brain. Also many people who have never had an amalgam. Most people don't develop overt symptoms of mercury toxicity, though how many people have low-level symptoms and/or go on to develop serious diseases which they otherwise wouldn't have is anyone's guess. > On this latter question, I will explain that I ask because I recently > (2 weeks and one day ago) had all 4 of my fillings (2 mouth areas) > removed by a regular dentist. I had had them maybe 15 years (I'm 30). Its not really recommended to have mercury fillings removed by a regular dentist as you will get a larger exposure of mercury. > Prior to the removal, I have generally been healthy with maybe 1 > illness (flu / other respiratory) annually, which I consider pretty > good with 2 young children. Thats good going. > I guess what I am really asking is, in the absence of symptomology, > should I be concerned / worried? Thats a difficult question to answer. The truth is we should all be concerned. The good news is that you are no better/worse off than anyone else in the general population. The bad news is that mercury is implicated in many disease conditions. > Thanks all and hope everyone is on their way to a great weekend, > Judy You too, . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 " sabyrah76 " wrote: > > Am new to this group and recently purchased Andy's book, so have > barely skimmed a few sections. > > Was reading the bit about exposure and urin testing and was wondering: > > 1. Besides amalagams, eye drops, and vaccines...where is all this > mercury coming from??? Mostly amalgam - a conservative estimate is that 70% of most peoples body burden of mercury comes from amalgam (World Health Organization). But there is some mercury in fish too. That doesn't mean you should give up eating fish - just that you should educate yourself on what fish to eat, and what fish to avoid. > 2. When people chealate, and they pee out all their mercury...isn't > THAT mercury dangerous to other people? No. Most of it comes out in urine/stools which goes down the toilet into the sewage system where it is treated and put back into the ecosystem. Its a tiny amount which gets distributed over a very large area. What is more dangerous is cremation of people with fillings which can be a significant enviromental hazzard. > 2.1 Does it get filtered or is it in tap water? Its not in tap water. The reason its a problem in fish is because of bioaccumulation - mercury concentrates up the food chain. > 2.2 Do regular people need a special water filter? And if so what is > the best ones? Not for mercury. For other stuff it may be helpful. The worst thing in tap water generally is chlorine (which they put in to kill germs). Most countries have strict regulations on the amount of heavy metals allowed in tap water. Unfortunately those same countries will allow mercury to be injected into babies or implanted into the mouths of children where it magically becomes safe. > 3. Do all people who have had amalagams have to consider being > mercury toxic? What if they don't have any symptoms??? Anyone who has ever had an amalgam has mercury in their body/brain. Also many people who have never had an amalgam. Most people don't develop overt symptoms of mercury toxicity, though how many people have low-level symptoms and/or go on to develop serious diseases which they otherwise wouldn't have is anyone's guess. > On this latter question, I will explain that I ask because I recently > (2 weeks and one day ago) had all 4 of my fillings (2 mouth areas) > removed by a regular dentist. I had had them maybe 15 years (I'm 30). Its not really recommended to have mercury fillings removed by a regular dentist as you will get a larger exposure of mercury. > Prior to the removal, I have generally been healthy with maybe 1 > illness (flu / other respiratory) annually, which I consider pretty > good with 2 young children. Thats good going. > I guess what I am really asking is, in the absence of symptomology, > should I be concerned / worried? Thats a difficult question to answer. The truth is we should all be concerned. The good news is that you are no better/worse off than anyone else in the general population. The bad news is that mercury is implicated in many disease conditions. > Thanks all and hope everyone is on their way to a great weekend, > Judy You too, . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 > > Am new to this group and recently purchased Andy's book, so have > barely skimmed a few sections. > > Was reading the bit about exposure and urin testing and was wondering: > > 1. Besides amalagams, eye drops, and vaccines...where is all this > mercury coming from??? > Mainly amalgams, some is in the enviornment. > 2. When people chealate, and they pee out all their mercury...isn't > THAT mercury dangerous to other people? Probably not anymore than the mercury dentists wash down the drain daily. > > 2.1 Does it get filtered or is it in tap water? tap water is not filtered for any heavy metals. It is best to drink bottled or use a filter that removes heavy metals at the tap. > > 2.2 Do regular people need a special water filter? And if so what is the best ones? we use a pur filter on our faucet for cooking and washing, but we drink bottled water. Most faucet mount filters list what contaminents they remove on the box. There are whole house filters, but these cost thousands. > > 3. Do all people who have had amalagams have to consider being > mercury toxic? What if they don't have any symptoms??? Yes, if you had fillings, you had a steady exposure to mercury vapors every day as long as you had the fillings. You would have more mercury if you have been vaccinated and consume fish. > > On this latter question, I will explain that I ask because I recently > (2 weeks and one day ago) had all 4 of my fillings (2 mouth areas) > removed by a regular dentist. I had had them maybe 15 years (I'm 30). > Prior to the removal, I have generally been healthy with maybe 1 > illness (flu / other respiratory) annually, which I consider pretty good with 2 young children. > I guess what I am really asking is, in the absence of symptomology, should I be concerned / worried? Possibly. Mercury damage is not always evident until you remove it. It interfers with every biological process in your body. It also stays in your body and brain for many years. It causes many illness that most doctors do not connect to metals. Reading his book will provide you with more details. But in essence, it is a concern. > Thanks all and hope everyone is on their way to a great weekend, > Judy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 > > Am new to this group and recently purchased Andy's book, so have > barely skimmed a few sections. > > Was reading the bit about exposure and urin testing and was wondering: > > 1. Besides amalagams, eye drops, and vaccines...where is all this > mercury coming from??? > Mainly amalgams, some is in the enviornment. > 2. When people chealate, and they pee out all their mercury...isn't > THAT mercury dangerous to other people? Probably not anymore than the mercury dentists wash down the drain daily. > > 2.1 Does it get filtered or is it in tap water? tap water is not filtered for any heavy metals. It is best to drink bottled or use a filter that removes heavy metals at the tap. > > 2.2 Do regular people need a special water filter? And if so what is the best ones? we use a pur filter on our faucet for cooking and washing, but we drink bottled water. Most faucet mount filters list what contaminents they remove on the box. There are whole house filters, but these cost thousands. > > 3. Do all people who have had amalagams have to consider being > mercury toxic? What if they don't have any symptoms??? Yes, if you had fillings, you had a steady exposure to mercury vapors every day as long as you had the fillings. You would have more mercury if you have been vaccinated and consume fish. > > On this latter question, I will explain that I ask because I recently > (2 weeks and one day ago) had all 4 of my fillings (2 mouth areas) > removed by a regular dentist. I had had them maybe 15 years (I'm 30). > Prior to the removal, I have generally been healthy with maybe 1 > illness (flu / other respiratory) annually, which I consider pretty good with 2 young children. > I guess what I am really asking is, in the absence of symptomology, should I be concerned / worried? Possibly. Mercury damage is not always evident until you remove it. It interfers with every biological process in your body. It also stays in your body and brain for many years. It causes many illness that most doctors do not connect to metals. Reading his book will provide you with more details. But in essence, it is a concern. > Thanks all and hope everyone is on their way to a great weekend, > Judy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 > Mostly amalgam - a conservative estimate is that 70% of most peoples > body burden of mercury comes from amalgam (World Health Organization). Didn't know this stat. Is very interesting and frightening at the same time. I had read elsewhere that mercury is used in many chemical processes, like the processing of Chlorine bleach and that a lot of it is unaccounted for at the end of the day (smoke stack emmisions I think). I had also read about the emmissions from cremation (Cali elementry school next to a crematorium with sky high rates of ADD, etc in the kids and adults with problems too). I guess, overall, my thought was, if people know it's a proble, why aren't 'in charge' people doing much to fix it? I know it is very political, but when I talked to my dentist while he took out my fillings, he said he knew nothing of 'enviornmental dentistry' and only that the ADA does not recommend the removal of silver fillings. To me it seems so wide spread that we should all be really nerotic about it. And, they have had a few documented cases of long-term exposeure / acute issues. I think I read something about a fishing village in Japan, Pink's disease in the US, and the Mexican grain sent to Iraq (?) issue from several years ago r/t a draught (it was treated with mercury to keep the loss down on seed and was meant to be planted, but arrived late and people decided to make bread with the grain instead). > Anyone who has ever had an amalgam has mercury in their body/brain. > Also many people who have never had an amalgam. Most people don't > develop overt symptoms of mercury toxicity, though how many people > have low-level symptoms and/or go on to develop serious diseases which > they otherwise wouldn't have is anyone's guess. So after I had the fillings out, BTW thought it better to not take extra supplements before because I had read that you could pull more murcury from the fillings and cause more problems, I had the whole issue with " brain fog " for at least a week and then less badly for another week. Am 2 1/2 weeks out and feel a lot better. The day after, it was so hard to stay on task and concentrate, but someone reminded me that I had a bit of Novicaine and since I metabolize drugs slowly and generally need lower doses to be as effective, I thought maybe it could be r/t the Novacaine. I guess I wonder if there is a point where everything settle back down so people feel more normal? And if at that point it is worth doing a challenge test or if it is better to leave well-enough alone? Anyway, I got some decent Vit C and Chlorella to take after the appointment along with a B-complex and wonder if others have found these to be helpful. I heard / read that the Vit C has a higher affinity for the mercury than body cells and therefore best to take in large quantities. I have been taking 3 grams daily and noticed that Andy's suggestion starts at 4grams. > You too, > . Thank you and the other responder for your responses. I should also say that the reason I wanted this done is because I plan to have more children (I currently have 2 - 2 and 4 year old). The elder is a boy who was almost dx'ed with autism due to language and self help delays that put him about a year behind developmentally. I had breastfed, spaced out (one at a time schedule) the immunizations, refused a few (Hep B and MMR, waited til he was 4 months old to start....and began to think of preventing problems for any subsequent children. He is so much better now with only a few idiosynchicies...only every was dx'ed as sensory integration d/o / defensiveness...so I feel fortunate compared to what " might have been. " Am using supplements with him, the biggest being Coromega fishoil which we hide in yogurt, but also a mutli vit w/o copper, B- 6 w/ Magnisium, Vit C, and DMG. It all seems to have helped and I don't know of any negative implications if he didn't " need " any of the stuff...but again, I feel there is concern to be neurotic because of potential future implications...also wanting more children makes me hesitate in thinking about a challenge test and tx if indicated. I may only be 30, but. Here's another question though, even after people finish a round of chelation tx, say 10 or more years down the line, do they have to worry about it again? Anyway, thanks for hearing me and for your time / consideration, Judy RN, BSN, RAC-C Ohio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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