Guest guest Posted July 23, 2004 Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 I like all the replies. It helps me to go back and review previous discussion material. Bullard BS, LP Training Coordinator Lubbock Aid Ambulance _____ From: dustdevil31 Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 10:50 PM To: Subject: Come on, guys! Learn to edit your freakin replies to the group so you don't keep repeating the three feet of quoted messages everytime you reply like I am doing this one time! It really jams up the digests! Rob > Temporary Flight Restriction NOTAMs > TX > 4/7245 - FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS WACO, TEXAS, JULY 23, 2004 LOCAL. > PURSUANT TO TITLE 14, SECTION 91.141, OF THE CODE OF FEDERAL > REGULATIONS, AIRCRAFT FLIGHT OPERATIONS ARE PROHIBITED WITHIN THE > FOLLOWING AREA(S) UNLESS OTHERWISE AUTHORIZED BY ATC. 3.0 NMR BLW 3000 > FEET AGL OF 313859N/0970426W OR THE ACT089010 FROM 0407231710 (1210 > LOCAL 07/23/04) UNTIL 0407231815 (1315 LOCAL 07/23/04). WIE UNTIL UFN > Center Map Here Printable WAC/Sectional Printable GNC [No Labels] > Note: IE users should right-click link to save printable chart. > Printable chart requires free Acrobat Reader software by Adobe. > > TX > 4/7249 - PART 1 OF 3 FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS CRAWFORD, TEXAS, JULY 23-29, > 2004. PURSUANT TO TITLE 14, SECTION 91.141, OF THE CODE OF FEDERAL > REGULATIONS, AIRCRAFT FLIGHT OPERATIONS ARE PROHIBITED WITHIN 30 NMR BLW > FL180 OF 313445N/0973200W OR THE ACT241014 FROM 0407231735 (1235 LOCAL > 07/23/04) UNTIL 0407291810 (1310 LOCAL 07/29/04). A. ALL AIRCRAFT > OPERATIONS WITHIN 10 NMR ARE PROHIBITED EXCEPT FOR: 1. LAW ENFORCEMENT > AND MILITARY AIRCRAFT DIRECTLY SUPPORTING THE UNITED STATES SECRET > SERVICE (USSS) AND THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES > (POTUS) AND REGULARLY SCHEDULED COMMERCIAL PASSENGER AND CARGO AIRCRAFT > ARRIVING INTO AND/OR DEPARTING FROM WACO RGNL (ACT) AIRPORT, TX. THESE > AIRCRAFT SHALL AVOID PROHIBITED AREA 49 (P-49) UNLESS THEY RECEIVE USSS > AUTHORIZATION BY CALLING OR 4678. 2. FOR OPERATIONS WITHIN > THE TFR, ALL MEDICAL FLIGHT OPERATION COMPANIES SHALL COORDINATE WITH > THE USSS PRIOR TO THIS NOTAM GOING INTO EFFECT TO AVOID POTENTIAL > DELAYS. B. WI! THIN THE > AIRSPACE BETWEEN 10 NMR AND 30 NMR: 1. ALL AIRCRAFT ENTERING OR > EXITING THE 30 NMR TFR SHALL BE ON AN ACTIVE IFR OR VFR FLIGHT PLAN WITH > A DISCRETE CODE ASSIGNED BY AN END PART 1 OF 3 WIE UNTIL UFN > PART 2 OF 3 FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS CRAWFORD, TEXAS, AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL > (ATC) FACILITY. AIRCRAFT SHALL BE SQUAWKING THE DISCRETE CODE PRIOR TO > DEPARTURE AND AT ALL TIMES WHILE IN THE TFR. 2. ALL AIRCRAFT ENTERING OR > EXITING THE 30 NMR TFR MUST REMAIN IN TWO-WAY RADIO COMMUNICATIONS WITH > ATC. 3. ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATING WITHIN THE 10 TO 30 NMR TFR AND OPERATING > AT ALTITUDES OF UP TO FL180 ARE LIMITED TO AIRCRAFT ARRIVING OR > DEPARTING LOCAL AIRFIELDS AND ATC MAY AUTHORIZE TRANSIT OPERATIONS. > AIRCRAFT MAY NOT LOITER. 4. FLIGHT TRAINING, PRACTICE INSTRUMENT > APPROACHES, AEROBATIC FLIGHT, GLIDER OPERATIONS, PARACHUTE OPERATIONS, > ULTRALIGHT, HANG GLIDING, BANNER TOWING OPERATIONS, AGRICULTURE/CROP > DUSTING, BALLOON OPERATIONS, ANIMAL POPULATION CONTROL FLIGHT > OPERATIONS, AND COMMERCIAL CARGO/CARRIER OPERATIONS THAT FAIL TO MEET OR > EXCEED THE TRANSPORTATION SECURITY ADMINISTRATION S DOMESTIC SECURITY > INTEGRATED PROGRAM STANDARDS ARE NOT AUTHORIZED. 5. ALL USSS CLEARED > AIRCRAFT OPERATORS B! ASED IN > THE AREA SHOULD NOTIFY THE USSS PRIOR TO THEIR DEPARTURE BY CALLING > OR 4678. 6. ALL AIRCRAFT DEPARTING FROM PRIVATE > AIRPORTS/AIRSTRIPS MUST BE END PART 2 OF 3 WIE UNTIL UFN > > PART 3 OF 3 FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS CRAWFORD, TEXAS, JULY 23-29, 2004. ON > A HEADING AWAY FROM P-49. 7. ALL MEDICAL FLIGHT OPERATION COMPANIES > SHALL COORDINATE WITH THE USSS PRIOR TO THIS NOTAM GOING INTO EFFECT TO > AVOID POTENTIAL DELAYS WHEN THE NOTAM IS IN EFFECT. 8. ALL FORT HOOD > U.S. ARMY FLIGHTS WILL BE PROVIDED DISCRETE BEACON CODES BY LOCAL ATC > AND ALLOWED TO OPERATE NORMALLY WITHIN THE FORT HOOD AIRSPACE. 9. > APPROVED MILITARY FLIGHTS WILL BE PERMITTED TO CONDUCT PRACTICE FLIGHT > OPERATIONS IN THE VICINITY OF WACO RGNL AIRPORT WHILE UNDER THE > DIRECTION OF ATC. CONSULT WITH LOCAL ATC FOR DETAILS. C. FLIGHT > OPERATIONS ARE AUTHORIZED FOR ALL AIRCRAFT THAT OPERATE WITHIN A 4 NMR > OF 310509N/0974111W OR THE GRK058007 (KILLEEN MUNI AIRPORT) EXCLUDING > R-6302A/B. D. IT IS RECOMMENDED THAT ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATORS CHECK NOTAMS > FREQUENTLY FOR POSSIBLE REQUIRED CHANGES TO THIS TFR PRIOR TO OPERATIONS > WITHIN THIS REGION. END PART 3 OF 3 WIE UNTIL UFN > > Center Map Here Printable WAC/Sectional Printable GNC [No Labels] > Note: IE users should right-click link to save printable chart. > Printable chart requires free Acrobat Reader software by Adobe. > > TX > 4/7250 - TX.. FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS WACO, TEXAS. JULY 29, 2004 LOCAL. > PURSUANT TO TITLE 14, SECTION 91.141, OF THE CODE OF FEDERAL > REGULATIONS, AIRCRAFT FLIGHT OPERATIONS ARE PROHIBITED WITHIN THE > FOLLOWING AREA(S) UNLESS OTHERWISE AUTHORIZED BY ATC. 3.0 NMR BLW 3000 > FEET AGL OF 313859N/0970426W OR THE ACT089010 FROM 0407291730 (1230 > LOCAL 07/29/04) UNTIL 0407291835 (1335 LOCAL 07/29/04). WIE UNTIL > > http://airspace.nifc.gov/mapping/nifc/index.cfm > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2004 Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 Larry RN LP EMSI writes: > > Of the 1500 people you mention, why has there been ONLY one complaint? Assuming your question is not rhetorical, there are at least a couple of different explanations. First, most members here do not receive the Digest version of the group messages, so they do not realize or understand the problem. Second, this having come up a couple times in the past, most of those who are affected simply realize the futility of trying to reason with jerks. I guess I am just an optimist. Regardless, a lack of complaints does not justify boorish behaviour. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2004 Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 Larry RN LP EMSI writes: > > Of the 1500 people you mention, why has there been ONLY one complaint? Assuming your question is not rhetorical, there are at least a couple of different explanations. First, most members here do not receive the Digest version of the group messages, so they do not realize or understand the problem. Second, this having come up a couple times in the past, most of those who are affected simply realize the futility of trying to reason with jerks. I guess I am just an optimist. Regardless, a lack of complaints does not justify boorish behaviour. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2004 Report Share Posted July 24, 2004 What replies I did not reply, and how do you spell replie. Come on, guys! Learn to edit your freakin replies to the group so you don't keep repeating the three feet of quoted messages everytime you reply like I am doing this one time! It really jams up the digests! Rob > Temporary Flight Restriction NOTAMs > TX > 4/7245 - FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS WACO, TEXAS, JULY 23, 2004 LOCAL. > PURSUANT TO TITLE 14, SECTION 91.141, OF THE CODE OF FEDERAL > REGULATIONS, AIRCRAFT FLIGHT OPERATIONS ARE PROHIBITED WITHIN THE > FOLLOWING AREA(S) UNLESS OTHERWISE AUTHORIZED BY ATC. 3.0 NMR BLW 3000 > FEET AGL OF 313859N/0970426W OR THE ACT089010 FROM 0407231710 (1210 > LOCAL 07/23/04) UNTIL 0407231815 (1315 LOCAL 07/23/04). WIE UNTIL UFN > Center Map Here Printable WAC/Sectional Printable GNC [No Labels] > Note: IE users should right-click link to save printable chart. > Printable chart requires free Acrobat Reader software by Adobe. > > TX > 4/7249 - PART 1 OF 3 FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS CRAWFORD, TEXAS, JULY 23-29, > 2004. PURSUANT TO TITLE 14, SECTION 91.141, OF THE CODE OF FEDERAL > REGULATIONS, AIRCRAFT FLIGHT OPERATIONS ARE PROHIBITED WITHIN 30 NMR BLW > FL180 OF 313445N/0973200W OR THE ACT241014 FROM 0407231735 (1235 LOCAL > 07/23/04) UNTIL 0407291810 (1310 LOCAL 07/29/04). A. ALL AIRCRAFT > OPERATIONS WITHIN 10 NMR ARE PROHIBITED EXCEPT FOR: 1. LAW ENFORCEMENT > AND MILITARY AIRCRAFT DIRECTLY SUPPORTING THE UNITED STATES SECRET > SERVICE (USSS) AND THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES > (POTUS) AND REGULARLY SCHEDULED COMMERCIAL PASSENGER AND CARGO AIRCRAFT > ARRIVING INTO AND/OR DEPARTING FROM WACO RGNL (ACT) AIRPORT, TX. THESE > AIRCRAFT SHALL AVOID PROHIBITED AREA 49 (P-49) UNLESS THEY RECEIVE USSS > AUTHORIZATION BY CALLING OR 4678. 2. FOR OPERATIONS WITHIN > THE TFR, ALL MEDICAL FLIGHT OPERATION COMPANIES SHALL COORDINATE WITH > THE USSS PRIOR TO THIS NOTAM GOING INTO EFFECT TO AVOID POTENTIAL > DELAYS. B. WI! THIN THE > AIRSPACE BETWEEN 10 NMR AND 30 NMR: 1. ALL AIRCRAFT ENTERING OR > EXITING THE 30 NMR TFR SHALL BE ON AN ACTIVE IFR OR VFR FLIGHT PLAN WITH > A DISCRETE CODE ASSIGNED BY AN END PART 1 OF 3 WIE UNTIL UFN > PART 2 OF 3 FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS CRAWFORD, TEXAS, AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL > (ATC) FACILITY. AIRCRAFT SHALL BE SQUAWKING THE DISCRETE CODE PRIOR TO > DEPARTURE AND AT ALL TIMES WHILE IN THE TFR. 2. ALL AIRCRAFT ENTERING OR > EXITING THE 30 NMR TFR MUST REMAIN IN TWO-WAY RADIO COMMUNICATIONS WITH > ATC. 3. ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATING WITHIN THE 10 TO 30 NMR TFR AND OPERATING > AT ALTITUDES OF UP TO FL180 ARE LIMITED TO AIRCRAFT ARRIVING OR > DEPARTING LOCAL AIRFIELDS AND ATC MAY AUTHORIZE TRANSIT OPERATIONS. > AIRCRAFT MAY NOT LOITER. 4. FLIGHT TRAINING, PRACTICE INSTRUMENT > APPROACHES, AEROBATIC FLIGHT, GLIDER OPERATIONS, PARACHUTE OPERATIONS, > ULTRALIGHT, HANG GLIDING, BANNER TOWING OPERATIONS, AGRICULTURE/CROP > DUSTING, BALLOON OPERATIONS, ANIMAL POPULATION CONTROL FLIGHT > OPERATIONS, AND COMMERCIAL CARGO/CARRIER OPERATIONS THAT FAIL TO MEET OR > EXCEED THE TRANSPORTATION SECURITY ADMINISTRATION S DOMESTIC SECURITY > INTEGRATED PROGRAM STANDARDS ARE NOT AUTHORIZED. 5. ALL USSS CLEARED > AIRCRAFT OPERATORS B! ASED IN > THE AREA SHOULD NOTIFY THE USSS PRIOR TO THEIR DEPARTURE BY CALLING > OR 4678. 6. ALL AIRCRAFT DEPARTING FROM PRIVATE > AIRPORTS/AIRSTRIPS MUST BE END PART 2 OF 3 WIE UNTIL UFN > > PART 3 OF 3 FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS CRAWFORD, TEXAS, JULY 23-29, 2004. ON > A HEADING AWAY FROM P-49. 7. ALL MEDICAL FLIGHT OPERATION COMPANIES > SHALL COORDINATE WITH THE USSS PRIOR TO THIS NOTAM GOING INTO EFFECT TO > AVOID POTENTIAL DELAYS WHEN THE NOTAM IS IN EFFECT. 8. ALL FORT HOOD > U.S. ARMY FLIGHTS WILL BE PROVIDED DISCRETE BEACON CODES BY LOCAL ATC > AND ALLOWED TO OPERATE NORMALLY WITHIN THE FORT HOOD AIRSPACE. 9. > APPROVED MILITARY FLIGHTS WILL BE PERMITTED TO CONDUCT PRACTICE FLIGHT > OPERATIONS IN THE VICINITY OF WACO RGNL AIRPORT WHILE UNDER THE > DIRECTION OF ATC. CONSULT WITH LOCAL ATC FOR DETAILS. C. FLIGHT > OPERATIONS ARE AUTHORIZED FOR ALL AIRCRAFT THAT OPERATE WITHIN A 4 NMR > OF 310509N/0974111W OR THE GRK058007 (KILLEEN MUNI AIRPORT) EXCLUDING > R-6302A/B. D. IT IS RECOMMENDED THAT ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATORS CHECK NOTAMS > FREQUENTLY FOR POSSIBLE REQUIRED CHANGES TO THIS TFR PRIOR TO OPERATIONS > WITHIN THIS REGION. END PART 3 OF 3 WIE UNTIL UFN > > Center Map Here Printable WAC/Sectional Printable GNC [No Labels] > Note: IE users should right-click link to save printable chart. > Printable chart requires free Acrobat Reader software by Adobe. > > TX > 4/7250 - TX.. FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS WACO, TEXAS. JULY 29, 2004 LOCAL. > PURSUANT TO TITLE 14, SECTION 91.141, OF THE CODE OF FEDERAL > REGULATIONS, AIRCRAFT FLIGHT OPERATIONS ARE PROHIBITED WITHIN THE > FOLLOWING AREA(S) UNLESS OTHERWISE AUTHORIZED BY ATC. 3.0 NMR BLW 3000 > FEET AGL OF 313859N/0970426W OR THE ACT089010 FROM 0407291730 (1230 > LOCAL 07/29/04) UNTIL 0407291835 (1335 LOCAL 07/29/04). WIE UNTIL > > http://airspace.nifc.gov/mapping/nifc/index.cfm > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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