Guest guest Posted December 3, 2001 Report Share Posted December 3, 2001 Val and Pam, Count me in the group that has a " meltdown " when trying to quit smoking also! I tried again this summer and it was very ugly...I was a emotional wreck...very " over the top " reaction to giving up my " crutch " called cigarettes. Rightly or wrongly, I've used cigarettes to get me through uncomfortable situations and I am lost and overwhelmed when I don't have them anymore when I try to quit. I made it almost 24 hours this summer then my hubby and Mom begged me to go get some. I hate being this way, and I know that I'm doing damage to my body by continuing to smoke, but I can relate to being suicidal without them....it sounds silly to see it in print, but I totally understand. Doris K9Mom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2001 Report Share Posted December 3, 2001 Val and Pam, Count me in the group that has a " meltdown " when trying to quit smoking also! I tried again this summer and it was very ugly...I was a emotional wreck...very " over the top " reaction to giving up my " crutch " called cigarettes. Rightly or wrongly, I've used cigarettes to get me through uncomfortable situations and I am lost and overwhelmed when I don't have them anymore when I try to quit. I made it almost 24 hours this summer then my hubby and Mom begged me to go get some. I hate being this way, and I know that I'm doing damage to my body by continuing to smoke, but I can relate to being suicidal without them....it sounds silly to see it in print, but I totally understand. Doris K9Mom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2001 Report Share Posted December 3, 2001 Val and Pam, Count me in the group that has a " meltdown " when trying to quit smoking also! I tried again this summer and it was very ugly...I was a emotional wreck...very " over the top " reaction to giving up my " crutch " called cigarettes. Rightly or wrongly, I've used cigarettes to get me through uncomfortable situations and I am lost and overwhelmed when I don't have them anymore when I try to quit. I made it almost 24 hours this summer then my hubby and Mom begged me to go get some. I hate being this way, and I know that I'm doing damage to my body by continuing to smoke, but I can relate to being suicidal without them....it sounds silly to see it in print, but I totally understand. Doris K9Mom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2001 Report Share Posted December 3, 2001 Hi Jody, I've been here...skimming posts and reading. I'm doing well, going tomorrow for my annual gyno appt and will be asking for a FSH test for my girlie hormones as I think some of what I'm feeling lately is perimenopause related....guess I'll know for sure soon. My thyroid levels are great and I'm considering going off of my daily 2.5mg of Tap sometime after the new year. Take care, Doris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2001 Report Share Posted December 3, 2001 Hi Jody, I've been here...skimming posts and reading. I'm doing well, going tomorrow for my annual gyno appt and will be asking for a FSH test for my girlie hormones as I think some of what I'm feeling lately is perimenopause related....guess I'll know for sure soon. My thyroid levels are great and I'm considering going off of my daily 2.5mg of Tap sometime after the new year. Take care, Doris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2001 Report Share Posted December 3, 2001 Hi Jody, I've been here...skimming posts and reading. I'm doing well, going tomorrow for my annual gyno appt and will be asking for a FSH test for my girlie hormones as I think some of what I'm feeling lately is perimenopause related....guess I'll know for sure soon. My thyroid levels are great and I'm considering going off of my daily 2.5mg of Tap sometime after the new year. Take care, Doris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2001 Report Share Posted December 3, 2001 Well, I've heard it works. I've known several people who quit smoking on it and felt great on it. It's also an anti-depressant, and there is a school of thought out there that taking an anti-depressant or anti-anxiety drug with the ATDs increases the rate of remission...for what it's worth.... Holly zyban Hi Gang, Let's see, I have been smoking 3 cigs a day for the last few years. Can't seem to stop. My GP said 3 a day is just fine and not too worry, but I do worry because I cant stand being addicted to even those 3 anymore. I've had 3 or 4 unsuccessful quits in the last year... My endo prescribed Zyban, also known as welbutrin or bupropion. I hate meds! I even hate stuff like ibuprofin. I also currently take PTU...Anyone tried this stuff? Anyone heard anything really bad about it. I dont know what to do, I really want to quit, and I'm sure tired of failing. Val Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2001 Report Share Posted December 3, 2001 Well, I've heard it works. I've known several people who quit smoking on it and felt great on it. It's also an anti-depressant, and there is a school of thought out there that taking an anti-depressant or anti-anxiety drug with the ATDs increases the rate of remission...for what it's worth.... Holly zyban Hi Gang, Let's see, I have been smoking 3 cigs a day for the last few years. Can't seem to stop. My GP said 3 a day is just fine and not too worry, but I do worry because I cant stand being addicted to even those 3 anymore. I've had 3 or 4 unsuccessful quits in the last year... My endo prescribed Zyban, also known as welbutrin or bupropion. I hate meds! I even hate stuff like ibuprofin. I also currently take PTU...Anyone tried this stuff? Anyone heard anything really bad about it. I dont know what to do, I really want to quit, and I'm sure tired of failing. Val Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2001 Report Share Posted December 3, 2001 Well, I've heard it works. I've known several people who quit smoking on it and felt great on it. It's also an anti-depressant, and there is a school of thought out there that taking an anti-depressant or anti-anxiety drug with the ATDs increases the rate of remission...for what it's worth.... Holly zyban Hi Gang, Let's see, I have been smoking 3 cigs a day for the last few years. Can't seem to stop. My GP said 3 a day is just fine and not too worry, but I do worry because I cant stand being addicted to even those 3 anymore. I've had 3 or 4 unsuccessful quits in the last year... My endo prescribed Zyban, also known as welbutrin or bupropion. I hate meds! I even hate stuff like ibuprofin. I also currently take PTU...Anyone tried this stuff? Anyone heard anything really bad about it. I dont know what to do, I really want to quit, and I'm sure tired of failing. Val Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2001 Report Share Posted December 3, 2001 Hi Val, My husband took the welbutrin (insurance wouldn't pay for zyban because it is a stop smoking aid..but they will pay for welbutrin because it is an antidepressant...at least I think that is the category....after 4 weeks on welbutrin he threw them out, they gave him terrible terrible mood swings, one time he literally threw the bottom drawer of our oven (for the broiler) across the kitchen because he couldn't get it to close right. My husband is NOT a violent man, but I was very afraid of him while he was on this drug. Be very aware of mood swings with it. As to how it will mesh with PTU, no clue, pharmascist told me PTU has no problems with drug reactions, yeah right NOT...I was taking it close to when I took my nighttime blood pressure med and got sick doing so. Now I make sure nothing else within a 90 minute period of taking my PTU...so can't help you there at all. Hope this at least gives you some imput with the med. Jody _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2001 Report Share Posted December 3, 2001 Hi Val, I was part of the original , small, nation wide study , to see it Welbutrin ( later renamed Zyban, and the price raised greatly) to see if the drug would help people quit smoking. It was a two year study, so I learned quite a bit. I also asked my endo specifically if I were to try it again, would it be OK with PTU. He said there are no problems with taking the two. Back to the study. You need to be on the drug two weeks before your quit date. You must pick a date, and stick to it. The drug is designed to be used in addition to counseling, which has proven to increase rates of quitting for good. We all got the counseling, and we all got the drug for 8 weeks.. Then half of us went onto a placebo. We did not know for two years who was who. For the first couple of weeks, I was increasingly hyper ( this was before diagnosis, so I use the word in a general way). Spent many sleepless nights, but did not feel tired. Felt great, and got a lot done. Then at the end of week two, the sleeplessness disappeared, and my quit date was very successful. As the next month wore on, all of the hyper feelings disappeared. It looked from the other participants, I passed in the hall, to my weekly sessions, that the same thing was happening to them. At about week 2 thru 4?, we were all looking pretty wide eyed and bushy tailed !!! So when week eight rolled around, and 1/2 of us were put on a placebo, none of us could tell the difference. Hard to believe, but true. It truly seems to be a TIME thing. But here is the problem. Very shortly after this 'change', I fell off the wagon. But I was convinced in my mind that I was getting the real thing. So the feeling of failure at each session, was terrible. I kept trying, and winning and loosing. They say for it to work log term, the drug must be used for some time. I have forgotten exactly how long. The reason the study was done in the first place, was because doctors of depressed patients had noticed a lot of them quit smoking, with out any reason. The drug company was also interested in if this drug could help long term quitting, rather than the short term that is so common. It turns out, I was in the placebo group, and thus I am one of the people that helped to prove their point, and get the drug approved for this new use. There is no difference between Welbutrin and Zyban. Just the price and the label. I am still fighting this battle with smoking, and would like to try the pills again, but have put it off until I can be sure that I have my thyroid under control. I shall plan on getting a bunch of delayed projects done, during that 'phase', and not be concerned about the sleeplessness phase either, since I know this passes. Interesting note. My endo at the very beginning of treatment said it is very hard to quit when you are very hyper or hypo, but as thyroid levels get closer to normal, it becomes easier. So I guess that excuse is out the window for me now. I know that my smoking was part of an attempt to help the terrible thyroid problems before I knew what was wrong with me. It can help with symptoms before you are being treated. So I now know that this last 'crutch' is scary to give up, as almost hard to believe, somewhere down deep. that I will be OK when I don't have them to 'help' me. This is one of those 'only smokers understand' things, but for the rest of you, perhaps a glimpse into why we have such a hard time quitting, when we know once we were diagnosed, we knew that smoking partly caused this, and is still making things worse. It is somehow all tied into that lack of being able to trust your own body, feeling. I can't control my own body, I can't control my smoking, but I can control how this one cigarette will make me feel. Val, the one thing they taught us, that I know is true is, you are only one cigarette away from complete addition. Just one. Then, numbers start not to matter. -Pam- who is so ashamed to admit to all of you here, that I am still smoking. I'm one of those secret smokers, most people have no idea, even ones that have known me for years. PS, you can not break Welbutrin or Zyban tablets. They are time release, and in breaking them, you open them up and you get TOO much drug all at once ! They also can NOT be used for anyone that has a history os seizures. Before we were admitted to the program, they not only took a huge medical history, but we were given an EKG ? and BP was closely monitored. Well, at least I did my small part for mankind. Though I did think with that time commitment I would be able to accomplish my own goal too. Geesh, I had to look my councilors in the eye and admit failure every week. And breath into a Co2 tester, and see for myself ! Val, do you have an at home BP cuff? I find this is helping. Check before and after a cig. Yikes! Was that enough PS's ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2001 Report Share Posted December 3, 2001 Hi Val, I was part of the original , small, nation wide study , to see it Welbutrin ( later renamed Zyban, and the price raised greatly) to see if the drug would help people quit smoking. It was a two year study, so I learned quite a bit. I also asked my endo specifically if I were to try it again, would it be OK with PTU. He said there are no problems with taking the two. Back to the study. You need to be on the drug two weeks before your quit date. You must pick a date, and stick to it. The drug is designed to be used in addition to counseling, which has proven to increase rates of quitting for good. We all got the counseling, and we all got the drug for 8 weeks.. Then half of us went onto a placebo. We did not know for two years who was who. For the first couple of weeks, I was increasingly hyper ( this was before diagnosis, so I use the word in a general way). Spent many sleepless nights, but did not feel tired. Felt great, and got a lot done. Then at the end of week two, the sleeplessness disappeared, and my quit date was very successful. As the next month wore on, all of the hyper feelings disappeared. It looked from the other participants, I passed in the hall, to my weekly sessions, that the same thing was happening to them. At about week 2 thru 4?, we were all looking pretty wide eyed and bushy tailed !!! So when week eight rolled around, and 1/2 of us were put on a placebo, none of us could tell the difference. Hard to believe, but true. It truly seems to be a TIME thing. But here is the problem. Very shortly after this 'change', I fell off the wagon. But I was convinced in my mind that I was getting the real thing. So the feeling of failure at each session, was terrible. I kept trying, and winning and loosing. They say for it to work log term, the drug must be used for some time. I have forgotten exactly how long. The reason the study was done in the first place, was because doctors of depressed patients had noticed a lot of them quit smoking, with out any reason. The drug company was also interested in if this drug could help long term quitting, rather than the short term that is so common. It turns out, I was in the placebo group, and thus I am one of the people that helped to prove their point, and get the drug approved for this new use. There is no difference between Welbutrin and Zyban. Just the price and the label. I am still fighting this battle with smoking, and would like to try the pills again, but have put it off until I can be sure that I have my thyroid under control. I shall plan on getting a bunch of delayed projects done, during that 'phase', and not be concerned about the sleeplessness phase either, since I know this passes. Interesting note. My endo at the very beginning of treatment said it is very hard to quit when you are very hyper or hypo, but as thyroid levels get closer to normal, it becomes easier. So I guess that excuse is out the window for me now. I know that my smoking was part of an attempt to help the terrible thyroid problems before I knew what was wrong with me. It can help with symptoms before you are being treated. So I now know that this last 'crutch' is scary to give up, as almost hard to believe, somewhere down deep. that I will be OK when I don't have them to 'help' me. This is one of those 'only smokers understand' things, but for the rest of you, perhaps a glimpse into why we have such a hard time quitting, when we know once we were diagnosed, we knew that smoking partly caused this, and is still making things worse. It is somehow all tied into that lack of being able to trust your own body, feeling. I can't control my own body, I can't control my smoking, but I can control how this one cigarette will make me feel. Val, the one thing they taught us, that I know is true is, you are only one cigarette away from complete addition. Just one. Then, numbers start not to matter. -Pam- who is so ashamed to admit to all of you here, that I am still smoking. I'm one of those secret smokers, most people have no idea, even ones that have known me for years. PS, you can not break Welbutrin or Zyban tablets. They are time release, and in breaking them, you open them up and you get TOO much drug all at once ! They also can NOT be used for anyone that has a history os seizures. Before we were admitted to the program, they not only took a huge medical history, but we were given an EKG ? and BP was closely monitored. Well, at least I did my small part for mankind. Though I did think with that time commitment I would be able to accomplish my own goal too. Geesh, I had to look my councilors in the eye and admit failure every week. And breath into a Co2 tester, and see for myself ! Val, do you have an at home BP cuff? I find this is helping. Check before and after a cig. Yikes! Was that enough PS's ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2001 Report Share Posted December 3, 2001 Hi Val, I was part of the original , small, nation wide study , to see it Welbutrin ( later renamed Zyban, and the price raised greatly) to see if the drug would help people quit smoking. It was a two year study, so I learned quite a bit. I also asked my endo specifically if I were to try it again, would it be OK with PTU. He said there are no problems with taking the two. Back to the study. You need to be on the drug two weeks before your quit date. You must pick a date, and stick to it. The drug is designed to be used in addition to counseling, which has proven to increase rates of quitting for good. We all got the counseling, and we all got the drug for 8 weeks.. Then half of us went onto a placebo. We did not know for two years who was who. For the first couple of weeks, I was increasingly hyper ( this was before diagnosis, so I use the word in a general way). Spent many sleepless nights, but did not feel tired. Felt great, and got a lot done. Then at the end of week two, the sleeplessness disappeared, and my quit date was very successful. As the next month wore on, all of the hyper feelings disappeared. It looked from the other participants, I passed in the hall, to my weekly sessions, that the same thing was happening to them. At about week 2 thru 4?, we were all looking pretty wide eyed and bushy tailed !!! So when week eight rolled around, and 1/2 of us were put on a placebo, none of us could tell the difference. Hard to believe, but true. It truly seems to be a TIME thing. But here is the problem. Very shortly after this 'change', I fell off the wagon. But I was convinced in my mind that I was getting the real thing. So the feeling of failure at each session, was terrible. I kept trying, and winning and loosing. They say for it to work log term, the drug must be used for some time. I have forgotten exactly how long. The reason the study was done in the first place, was because doctors of depressed patients had noticed a lot of them quit smoking, with out any reason. The drug company was also interested in if this drug could help long term quitting, rather than the short term that is so common. It turns out, I was in the placebo group, and thus I am one of the people that helped to prove their point, and get the drug approved for this new use. There is no difference between Welbutrin and Zyban. Just the price and the label. I am still fighting this battle with smoking, and would like to try the pills again, but have put it off until I can be sure that I have my thyroid under control. I shall plan on getting a bunch of delayed projects done, during that 'phase', and not be concerned about the sleeplessness phase either, since I know this passes. Interesting note. My endo at the very beginning of treatment said it is very hard to quit when you are very hyper or hypo, but as thyroid levels get closer to normal, it becomes easier. So I guess that excuse is out the window for me now. I know that my smoking was part of an attempt to help the terrible thyroid problems before I knew what was wrong with me. It can help with symptoms before you are being treated. So I now know that this last 'crutch' is scary to give up, as almost hard to believe, somewhere down deep. that I will be OK when I don't have them to 'help' me. This is one of those 'only smokers understand' things, but for the rest of you, perhaps a glimpse into why we have such a hard time quitting, when we know once we were diagnosed, we knew that smoking partly caused this, and is still making things worse. It is somehow all tied into that lack of being able to trust your own body, feeling. I can't control my own body, I can't control my smoking, but I can control how this one cigarette will make me feel. Val, the one thing they taught us, that I know is true is, you are only one cigarette away from complete addition. Just one. Then, numbers start not to matter. -Pam- who is so ashamed to admit to all of you here, that I am still smoking. I'm one of those secret smokers, most people have no idea, even ones that have known me for years. PS, you can not break Welbutrin or Zyban tablets. They are time release, and in breaking them, you open them up and you get TOO much drug all at once ! They also can NOT be used for anyone that has a history os seizures. Before we were admitted to the program, they not only took a huge medical history, but we were given an EKG ? and BP was closely monitored. Well, at least I did my small part for mankind. Though I did think with that time commitment I would be able to accomplish my own goal too. Geesh, I had to look my councilors in the eye and admit failure every week. And breath into a Co2 tester, and see for myself ! Val, do you have an at home BP cuff? I find this is helping. Check before and after a cig. Yikes! Was that enough PS's ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2001 Report Share Posted December 3, 2001 Pam, that was very helpful. See I know I am addicted, but I can stay at 3 a day with no problems, I can even go a day or two without smoking. I have done all of my previous quits the recomended way, you know..set the quit date, change of lifestyle, etc. I have tried cold turkey, accupuncture and gum. Here's my biggest problem and the reason I always fail. After 2 weeks into the quit a dark hideous shroud falls over my life, I hate everything, I care about nothing, and the last time I quit I wanted to be dead. I know this sounds crazy and extreme, but I'm not kidding!!! 2 weeks into the quit and it's like the worst mental anquish you can imagine, and I've been through some pretty tough stuff to compare it to. I cant seem to find anyone who understands this, I guess that's why my endo wanted to give Zyban, she said it should stabilize that mood thing that happens. The last time I quit I went crazy, I started calling counselors out of the phone book, telling them how I wanted to quit but I was falling to pieces and wanted to kill myself. One of them hung up on me, and another told me to just go have a cigarette rather than commit suicide. (by the way I have NEVER had suicidal thoughts at any other time of my life) My GP told me to smoke my three a day and not worry..she said my guilt and worry was worse for me than 3 cigs a day! I am afraid to quit again because of what's happened in the past, I am praying that this zyban stuff will help because I already know I cant make it alone. Val Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2001 Report Share Posted December 3, 2001 Pam, that was very helpful. See I know I am addicted, but I can stay at 3 a day with no problems, I can even go a day or two without smoking. I have done all of my previous quits the recomended way, you know..set the quit date, change of lifestyle, etc. I have tried cold turkey, accupuncture and gum. Here's my biggest problem and the reason I always fail. After 2 weeks into the quit a dark hideous shroud falls over my life, I hate everything, I care about nothing, and the last time I quit I wanted to be dead. I know this sounds crazy and extreme, but I'm not kidding!!! 2 weeks into the quit and it's like the worst mental anquish you can imagine, and I've been through some pretty tough stuff to compare it to. I cant seem to find anyone who understands this, I guess that's why my endo wanted to give Zyban, she said it should stabilize that mood thing that happens. The last time I quit I went crazy, I started calling counselors out of the phone book, telling them how I wanted to quit but I was falling to pieces and wanted to kill myself. One of them hung up on me, and another told me to just go have a cigarette rather than commit suicide. (by the way I have NEVER had suicidal thoughts at any other time of my life) My GP told me to smoke my three a day and not worry..she said my guilt and worry was worse for me than 3 cigs a day! I am afraid to quit again because of what's happened in the past, I am praying that this zyban stuff will help because I already know I cant make it alone. Val Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2001 Report Share Posted December 3, 2001 Pam, that was very helpful. See I know I am addicted, but I can stay at 3 a day with no problems, I can even go a day or two without smoking. I have done all of my previous quits the recomended way, you know..set the quit date, change of lifestyle, etc. I have tried cold turkey, accupuncture and gum. Here's my biggest problem and the reason I always fail. After 2 weeks into the quit a dark hideous shroud falls over my life, I hate everything, I care about nothing, and the last time I quit I wanted to be dead. I know this sounds crazy and extreme, but I'm not kidding!!! 2 weeks into the quit and it's like the worst mental anquish you can imagine, and I've been through some pretty tough stuff to compare it to. I cant seem to find anyone who understands this, I guess that's why my endo wanted to give Zyban, she said it should stabilize that mood thing that happens. The last time I quit I went crazy, I started calling counselors out of the phone book, telling them how I wanted to quit but I was falling to pieces and wanted to kill myself. One of them hung up on me, and another told me to just go have a cigarette rather than commit suicide. (by the way I have NEVER had suicidal thoughts at any other time of my life) My GP told me to smoke my three a day and not worry..she said my guilt and worry was worse for me than 3 cigs a day! I am afraid to quit again because of what's happened in the past, I am praying that this zyban stuff will help because I already know I cant make it alone. Val Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2001 Report Share Posted December 3, 2001 Hi Val, >>>>After 2 weeks into the quit a dark hideous shroud falls over my life, I >>>>hate everything, I care about nothing, and the last time I quit I wanted >>>>to be dead. I know this sounds crazy and extreme, but I'm not kidding!!! >>>>2 weeks into the quit and it's like the worst mental anquish you can >>>>imagine, and I've been through some pretty tough stuff to compare it >>>>to.<<<< Man do I know those feelings!!! Remember when I tried to quit last spring? It was at that same 2 week mark when I just couldn't take it anymore that I started smoking again And I am still smoking, but I am down to less than a pack a day from the 3+ packs a day I was smoking prior to the quit. We don't smoke in the house anymore (except in the dreary basement when it is 30 degrees out) and I hate going to the basement. I am hoping by winters end to have either quit altogether or cut back even more. My worst time is in the morning...I want 3 cig. and 2 cups of coffee before I start my day, after that I can go for hours without smoking, until after a meal. But things are better. Good luck with the Zyban. Just watch for those mood altering changes. In the thing that came with his script of welbutrin it said violent behavior could be a side effect. For hubby it was. Jody _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2001 Report Share Posted December 3, 2001 Hi Doris, How have you been? Haven't seen you post in a bit, hope all is well with you. Jody _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2001 Report Share Posted December 3, 2001 Hi Doris, How have you been? Haven't seen you post in a bit, hope all is well with you. Jody _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2001 Report Share Posted December 3, 2001 Hi Doris, How have you been? Haven't seen you post in a bit, hope all is well with you. Jody _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2001 Report Share Posted December 3, 2001 Jody, Was the anger because of just having quit recently? Dear All, I didn't have time to get mad. I was too busy scrubbing everything clean with a toothbrush ! And playing music and dancing around all by myself, smiling and having a good old time. Sure was sorry to see that part wear off at the 4 wk. time on that drug. They say in the literature that the sleepless part in normal at first but then goes away, so perhaps my 'happy' time , which directly coincided with the sleeplessness, as all part of the same thing. Heck, maybe I should just go and get some Welbutrin and have another go at it, my house needs cleaning, my thyroid is not perfect, BP is up, and my favorite quit dates are here. Yes, I have done this so much, I know which days have worked the longest. -Pam- who just had a nice little cry reading your posts Jody, K9, and Val. I can't believe my favorite people have this same stuff going on. Were we separated at birth? There's not one thing in all your posts, that I have not lived. And this still seems all on topic in my mind. Makes ya wonder. > > > Good luck with the Zyban. Just watch for those mood altering changes. In > the thing that came with his script of welbutrin it said violent behavior > could be a side effect. For hubby it was. > Jody > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2001 Report Share Posted December 3, 2001 Jody, Was the anger because of just having quit recently? Dear All, I didn't have time to get mad. I was too busy scrubbing everything clean with a toothbrush ! And playing music and dancing around all by myself, smiling and having a good old time. Sure was sorry to see that part wear off at the 4 wk. time on that drug. They say in the literature that the sleepless part in normal at first but then goes away, so perhaps my 'happy' time , which directly coincided with the sleeplessness, as all part of the same thing. Heck, maybe I should just go and get some Welbutrin and have another go at it, my house needs cleaning, my thyroid is not perfect, BP is up, and my favorite quit dates are here. Yes, I have done this so much, I know which days have worked the longest. -Pam- who just had a nice little cry reading your posts Jody, K9, and Val. I can't believe my favorite people have this same stuff going on. Were we separated at birth? There's not one thing in all your posts, that I have not lived. And this still seems all on topic in my mind. Makes ya wonder. > > > Good luck with the Zyban. Just watch for those mood altering changes. In > the thing that came with his script of welbutrin it said violent behavior > could be a side effect. For hubby it was. > Jody > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2001 Report Share Posted December 3, 2001 Jody, Was the anger because of just having quit recently? Dear All, I didn't have time to get mad. I was too busy scrubbing everything clean with a toothbrush ! And playing music and dancing around all by myself, smiling and having a good old time. Sure was sorry to see that part wear off at the 4 wk. time on that drug. They say in the literature that the sleepless part in normal at first but then goes away, so perhaps my 'happy' time , which directly coincided with the sleeplessness, as all part of the same thing. Heck, maybe I should just go and get some Welbutrin and have another go at it, my house needs cleaning, my thyroid is not perfect, BP is up, and my favorite quit dates are here. Yes, I have done this so much, I know which days have worked the longest. -Pam- who just had a nice little cry reading your posts Jody, K9, and Val. I can't believe my favorite people have this same stuff going on. Were we separated at birth? There's not one thing in all your posts, that I have not lived. And this still seems all on topic in my mind. Makes ya wonder. > > > Good luck with the Zyban. Just watch for those mood altering changes. In > the thing that came with his script of welbutrin it said violent behavior > could be a side effect. For hubby it was. > Jody > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2001 Report Share Posted December 3, 2001 Well, Thanks everyone for your input on this oh so touchy subject. I feel better knowing that I am not alone, but not better knowing that you all are going through the same feelings.. I am going to set my date for sometime in December..I need to get my script filled, I guess I'm going to try it. I can't live with the shame anymore, that's the worst sometimes I think, when people act like I am very pathetic, and they get this " oh you poor weak smoking thing " look in their eyes. I did find a good section in Webmd about quitting, a lot of it pertains to women's issues with quitting, apparently we suffer more mentally than men with this addiction. http://my.webmd.com/content/article/1689.50666 there's more too, if anyone is interested. Thanks again, Val Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2001 Report Share Posted December 3, 2001 Well, Thanks everyone for your input on this oh so touchy subject. I feel better knowing that I am not alone, but not better knowing that you all are going through the same feelings.. I am going to set my date for sometime in December..I need to get my script filled, I guess I'm going to try it. I can't live with the shame anymore, that's the worst sometimes I think, when people act like I am very pathetic, and they get this " oh you poor weak smoking thing " look in their eyes. I did find a good section in Webmd about quitting, a lot of it pertains to women's issues with quitting, apparently we suffer more mentally than men with this addiction. http://my.webmd.com/content/article/1689.50666 there's more too, if anyone is interested. Thanks again, Val Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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