Guest guest Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 With regard to Dr. Bledsoe's statement about PAI, I would have to say that the jury is also still out on this. Archie Brain, the inventor of the LMA, promotes PAI with Versed. He does not share the concerns expressed by Dr.Bledsoe. Neither does Frasse, inventor of the Combitube. Jim Rich, CRNA, Executive Director of SLAM and a CRNA with 27 years experience in intubating, teaches it and does not share Dr. Bledsoe's concerns. That said, it is obvious, or it ought to be obvious, that before one performs ANY advanced airway procedure s/he ought to be completely familiar with all the effects of each and every drug given, plus have the ability to think critically about what one is doing, and adapt to changing circumstances. It is my belief that few paramedics practicing today actually have the amount of education and training in airway management to be cut loose with any of the sedative or paralytic drugs. However, it is also my firm belief that they can readily be given the requisite education and training in good programs. Versed or etomidate can be used to assist in intubations in COPD, asthma, and CHF patients, without paralyzing them. I have done it many times, and I have never had an adverse outcome. On the other hand, I have at times seen that paralysis was necessary and proceeded to do that. As the song goes, " You've got to know when to hold em, and know when to fold em. " Paramedic education is getting worse, not better, in the area of airway management because it is so hard to get medics into the OR to intubate. Further, OR experiences are often terrifying to the medic, particularly if there's a gas passer who's impatient, hostile, threatening, and basically not helpful in teaching the student. I've seen that numerous times, and it's happened to me. Perhaps the use of cadavers will be a part of the answer. When I was learning, after a code was called in the ER, the physicians made every effort to allow the medics to intubate. Now, residents don't even get to do that for fear of lawsuits. Further, Medicare won't pay a physician who doesn't do the procedure himself, so that's another reason that physicians don't want students intubating. Resident physicians don't even get to do surgeries for the same reason. Perhaps we ought to focus at least some of our energies on improving the educational opportunities for those folks who are going to be intubating us or otherwise taking care of our airway needs. Finally, with the advent of the intubating LMA, all this may be moot. Gene G. E.(Gene) Gandy POB 1651 Albany, TX 76430 wegandy1938@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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