Guest guest Posted March 1, 2002 Report Share Posted March 1, 2002 Much of what you wrote below makes sense. We first noticed symptoms (of hyperthyroidism) in Amy right after the holidays. We'd been having lots of holiday goodies, so in January we began a very healthy (or so we thought) eating plan that included lots of fish (salmon was our favorite choice), chicken, egg whites, veggies, fruits, and limited portions of rice and potatoes. Fat was limited to what was in those foods. No sugar, no salt. It was during this time that Amy really began to show more symptoms, and the subsequent doctor visits determined she did have Graves'. I asked the first (family) doctor if diet could have affected Amy but he said it couldn't. I think I disagree. . . And, yes, I see why two docs are quite enough just now. :-) Amy's Pam P. S. I don't know if anyone else does this, but I'm printing everything that pertains particularly to our situation. I currently have three files; one for Amy's medical records, one for thyroid information, and one for our family doctor who wants to work with us in finding alternative methods for treating Graves'. If nothing else, it's a handy reference, especially when other people come over who don't understand our frenzy in this ordeal. Amy's Pam In a message dated 3/1/2002 2:11:18 PM Central Standard Time, pladd@... writes: > Holly, Amys Pam, and ??? > > I saw green salads and rice on the list of iodine containing foods. Along > with most > everything one can eat. = :-o We also know that one way our ATDs work is by > blocking > iodine absorption. Then Elaine explained at one time, our bodies use > natural and processed > salt differently. I know we do need 150 mg. of iodine a day. > > SO>>>> My personal conclusion, and what has worked very well... I choose to > get my daily > needed iodine in natural food. I eat lots of green salads, because of all > the other good > stuff in the leaves. I eat rice, but do not over do it, but that is because > of the extra > carbs, and being a pig at the rice bowl would not seem like a balanced > diet. > > I have a post from another group that I wrote...here are some parts > > Iodine in milk: > The iodine in milk is there because they wash the cows udders, the > milking equipment, > and the milk truck with iodine. This would not be natural, from the earth > type iodine, I > would guess. So for me, I feel this is the iodine I need to keep in a lower > amount. I > still buy milk, but in the quart size instead of gallons, and if I am good, > part of it > gets thrown away. When I use cheese now, I think it through, and keep the > portion small , > using it as a flavor instead of a big portion of the meal. > > And: > I am not sure myself what the perfect answer is on iodine. BUT...:-) > I agree there is conflicting information, so perhaps it is moderation in > all things ? > > The way I came to my own personal conclusion...I stopped all iodine that I > could for a > while, then had a salmon dinner...YIKES ! Major hyper attack, and not a > good feeling at > all. Then I was wiped out the whole next day. SOOOO ??? > There must be something to this. > > I settled on Elaine's amount that we need..75 to 100 mg. a day. Then I > looked to see what > foods have iodine in them. Here is the best list I found. It is the one > they use for > patients before RAI for cancer, to be sure their thyroid absorbs as much > 'iodine' as > possible. I only used this list to see where all our iodine is coming from. > > http://www.evans.amedd.army.mil/Rad/RADMAIN/nm/lwiodine.htm > Uses Acrobat reader to view > > So , after reading this list, I can see how the big iodine things can > easily put us over > the edge, since our thyroids use iodine as fuel for the fire. > > Salt...After much time using non iodized salt, and much head scratching, I > have settled on > > salt from The Great Salt Lake. It has , > Chloride (salt) 98.4% > Calcium .99% > Potassium .245% > Magnesium .23% > Sulfur .18% > Iron .115% > Iodine .005% > Zinc .001% > Copper .0007% > > It is packaged here in Oregon ( not Utah ??? ) > > The Morton's non iodized salt says ...salt, calcium silicate > That must be something to keep it from cakeing...but what is it, and do I > need it ? > > I did put my salt in a tiny dish, and use it by using a pinch in my > fingers...just like on > > TV :-), my thinking is that I can feel how much better than I can see it. > > I do not know if I am doing the perfect thing on all of this, but since I > am doing well > since my new program has been in place, I now worry about other stuff. > > Guess we each have to come to our own conclusions. > Oh, another factor I took into consideration, is the fact that being in > Oregon, and the > ocean being here, I think we probably get lots of iodine in everything that > grows here, > plants and animals alike. > > > #1 -Pam- who just did not want to type all that again :-) > > PS Amys Pam...now you see why we thought 2 doctors would be enough > confusion for now = :-o I want to be the kind of friend Jesus would call, at the end of the day, just to talk about nothing.-Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2002 Report Share Posted March 1, 2002 Much of what you wrote below makes sense. We first noticed symptoms (of hyperthyroidism) in Amy right after the holidays. We'd been having lots of holiday goodies, so in January we began a very healthy (or so we thought) eating plan that included lots of fish (salmon was our favorite choice), chicken, egg whites, veggies, fruits, and limited portions of rice and potatoes. Fat was limited to what was in those foods. No sugar, no salt. It was during this time that Amy really began to show more symptoms, and the subsequent doctor visits determined she did have Graves'. I asked the first (family) doctor if diet could have affected Amy but he said it couldn't. I think I disagree. . . And, yes, I see why two docs are quite enough just now. :-) Amy's Pam P. S. I don't know if anyone else does this, but I'm printing everything that pertains particularly to our situation. I currently have three files; one for Amy's medical records, one for thyroid information, and one for our family doctor who wants to work with us in finding alternative methods for treating Graves'. If nothing else, it's a handy reference, especially when other people come over who don't understand our frenzy in this ordeal. Amy's Pam In a message dated 3/1/2002 2:11:18 PM Central Standard Time, pladd@... writes: > Holly, Amys Pam, and ??? > > I saw green salads and rice on the list of iodine containing foods. Along > with most > everything one can eat. = :-o We also know that one way our ATDs work is by > blocking > iodine absorption. Then Elaine explained at one time, our bodies use > natural and processed > salt differently. I know we do need 150 mg. of iodine a day. > > SO>>>> My personal conclusion, and what has worked very well... I choose to > get my daily > needed iodine in natural food. I eat lots of green salads, because of all > the other good > stuff in the leaves. I eat rice, but do not over do it, but that is because > of the extra > carbs, and being a pig at the rice bowl would not seem like a balanced > diet. > > I have a post from another group that I wrote...here are some parts > > Iodine in milk: > The iodine in milk is there because they wash the cows udders, the > milking equipment, > and the milk truck with iodine. This would not be natural, from the earth > type iodine, I > would guess. So for me, I feel this is the iodine I need to keep in a lower > amount. I > still buy milk, but in the quart size instead of gallons, and if I am good, > part of it > gets thrown away. When I use cheese now, I think it through, and keep the > portion small , > using it as a flavor instead of a big portion of the meal. > > And: > I am not sure myself what the perfect answer is on iodine. BUT...:-) > I agree there is conflicting information, so perhaps it is moderation in > all things ? > > The way I came to my own personal conclusion...I stopped all iodine that I > could for a > while, then had a salmon dinner...YIKES ! Major hyper attack, and not a > good feeling at > all. Then I was wiped out the whole next day. SOOOO ??? > There must be something to this. > > I settled on Elaine's amount that we need..75 to 100 mg. a day. Then I > looked to see what > foods have iodine in them. Here is the best list I found. It is the one > they use for > patients before RAI for cancer, to be sure their thyroid absorbs as much > 'iodine' as > possible. I only used this list to see where all our iodine is coming from. > > http://www.evans.amedd.army.mil/Rad/RADMAIN/nm/lwiodine.htm > Uses Acrobat reader to view > > So , after reading this list, I can see how the big iodine things can > easily put us over > the edge, since our thyroids use iodine as fuel for the fire. > > Salt...After much time using non iodized salt, and much head scratching, I > have settled on > > salt from The Great Salt Lake. It has , > Chloride (salt) 98.4% > Calcium .99% > Potassium .245% > Magnesium .23% > Sulfur .18% > Iron .115% > Iodine .005% > Zinc .001% > Copper .0007% > > It is packaged here in Oregon ( not Utah ??? ) > > The Morton's non iodized salt says ...salt, calcium silicate > That must be something to keep it from cakeing...but what is it, and do I > need it ? > > I did put my salt in a tiny dish, and use it by using a pinch in my > fingers...just like on > > TV :-), my thinking is that I can feel how much better than I can see it. > > I do not know if I am doing the perfect thing on all of this, but since I > am doing well > since my new program has been in place, I now worry about other stuff. > > Guess we each have to come to our own conclusions. > Oh, another factor I took into consideration, is the fact that being in > Oregon, and the > ocean being here, I think we probably get lots of iodine in everything that > grows here, > plants and animals alike. > > > #1 -Pam- who just did not want to type all that again :-) > > PS Amys Pam...now you see why we thought 2 doctors would be enough > confusion for now = :-o I want to be the kind of friend Jesus would call, at the end of the day, just to talk about nothing.-Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2002 Report Share Posted March 1, 2002 Jody and everyone, I worked as a waitress and we served beer, so I washed glasses in the same iodine solution. Also tended bar in the evenings and on weekends for extra cash when I was single so washed a lot of glasses in the iodine solution. Same here about being *safe* and required by health dept. Same goes for cleaning milking equipment it is required by the inspectors. Debbie R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2002 Report Share Posted March 1, 2002 Jody and everyone, I worked as a waitress and we served beer, so I washed glasses in the same iodine solution. Also tended bar in the evenings and on weekends for extra cash when I was single so washed a lot of glasses in the iodine solution. Same here about being *safe* and required by health dept. Same goes for cleaning milking equipment it is required by the inspectors. Debbie R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2002 Report Share Posted March 1, 2002 Jody and everyone, I worked as a waitress and we served beer, so I washed glasses in the same iodine solution. Also tended bar in the evenings and on weekends for extra cash when I was single so washed a lot of glasses in the iodine solution. Same here about being *safe* and required by health dept. Same goes for cleaning milking equipment it is required by the inspectors. Debbie R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2002 Report Share Posted March 1, 2002 Terry, I brew my own wine and beer (wouldn't you just know it? We've discussed cheesemaking in the past). I've NEVER used any iodine-based solution for washing equipment, just as I don't use it for washing milking equipment. It's just one option which, unfortunately, is sometimes chosen by commercial enterprises. << One more thought on this (no, I know none of you want to hear this one!). But I recently had one of my cooking students bring me some home-brewed beer. I took one sip, tasted iodine, and spit it out. Turns out that's what you wash the brewing equipment with, too. Now, I assume that he was just doing it wrong for me to taste it that much--but I have seen nothing on beer labels that says iodine! Terry >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2002 Report Share Posted March 1, 2002 Terry, I brew my own wine and beer (wouldn't you just know it? We've discussed cheesemaking in the past). I've NEVER used any iodine-based solution for washing equipment, just as I don't use it for washing milking equipment. It's just one option which, unfortunately, is sometimes chosen by commercial enterprises. << One more thought on this (no, I know none of you want to hear this one!). But I recently had one of my cooking students bring me some home-brewed beer. I took one sip, tasted iodine, and spit it out. Turns out that's what you wash the brewing equipment with, too. Now, I assume that he was just doing it wrong for me to taste it that much--but I have seen nothing on beer labels that says iodine! Terry >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2002 Report Share Posted March 1, 2002 Terry, I brew my own wine and beer (wouldn't you just know it? We've discussed cheesemaking in the past). I've NEVER used any iodine-based solution for washing equipment, just as I don't use it for washing milking equipment. It's just one option which, unfortunately, is sometimes chosen by commercial enterprises. << One more thought on this (no, I know none of you want to hear this one!). But I recently had one of my cooking students bring me some home-brewed beer. I took one sip, tasted iodine, and spit it out. Turns out that's what you wash the brewing equipment with, too. Now, I assume that he was just doing it wrong for me to taste it that much--but I have seen nothing on beer labels that says iodine! Terry >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2002 Report Share Posted March 3, 2002 Wash everything in a dilute solution of chlorine bleach and rinse well. B-Brite is made for winemaking cleansing, as are Campden tablets. For home brewing, I'm not even sure it's completely necessary to try to sterilize equipment, a good washing in diswashing detergent and hot water will do the trick. In a message dated 3/3/02 6:14:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, graves_support writes: << Red, What's your alternative method? Perhaps I can suggest it to my student. Thanks, Terry >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2002 Report Share Posted March 3, 2002 Wash everything in a dilute solution of chlorine bleach and rinse well. B-Brite is made for winemaking cleansing, as are Campden tablets. For home brewing, I'm not even sure it's completely necessary to try to sterilize equipment, a good washing in diswashing detergent and hot water will do the trick. In a message dated 3/3/02 6:14:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, graves_support writes: << Red, What's your alternative method? Perhaps I can suggest it to my student. Thanks, Terry >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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