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Ms. Dunaway,

There is nothing in the SoP that says you have to go back to school

for anything. If the document were to pass even now in its current

form, you would still get up in the morning and serve your community

as you have since the beginning. If you are currently serving at the

paramedic level, you will continue to do so.

If someone in your community wanted to become a paramedic and serve

alongside you, they would only have to complete paramedic training at

the Certificate or Associates Degree level, just like you did.

Kenny Navarro

UT Southwestern Medical School

> Mr. Ochoa,

> I MUST ask YOUR level of training...As for your comments, you are

entitled to your opinion. As a rural/frontier Medic, I MUST

dissagree. 4 more years of jumping throug hoops and gaining

that " piece of paper " will not get me the money I deserve or

request. Not in THIS rural area. They either will not pay it, or do

not have the funds to pay it even if they wanted to. Also, respect

has to be earned, not given with a " piece of paper " . I think we've

MORE than earned respect but have failed to acheive it by some. We

arejust as Professional as those with that piece of paper.

Unfortunately we have not always been recognized as Professionals.

This SOP MUST be revised. I work for a volunteer service. More

hoops? we couldnt stand any more hoops. We are " paid " very ;little I

dont see very many volunteers sticking to the profession if they had

to have this SOP they propose in its current form. We've been

schooled to death. Just MY opinion. Hope it makes sense. Thank

You EMTP 441]

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Well said .

Regards,

Alfonso R. Ochoa

> This fall, i went back to school to get my License Paramedic, and to

also start the transition course to become an RN.

>

> I took A & P 1, A & P 2, Microbiology, Pharmo (for nursing), and

Foundations for nursing.

>

> While paramedic school taught me what to do, why do to it, when to

do it, it didn't teach me the bodies response and reactions. Through

A & P, I have learned now why the body does what it does.

>

> I went through on of the best EMT programs in the state, but they

still failed to teach certain things (as with any program).

>

> My point being, the education might not get us more money, and we

might just get a " piece of paper " in the long run. The knowledge that

we gain through these extra classes with help us, and help out patients.

>

> I work in a rural ems setting. We are on the Bolivar Peninsula

(Galveston county). We have to ride a 20 ferry just to get to the

hospital. There are only 2 paramedics on the entire peninsula. Our

population in the winter is about 5,000 and in the summer, it rises up

to about 50,000 easily (because of the beach). Our service is the

only MICU Capable unit on the entire peninsula. It's nothing for us

to have to drive 20 miles down to the other end of the peninsula to

help out in a full arrest or 10-50.

>

> I encourage everyone, wether basic level or paramedic level, to go

back and take those extra classes. You might just get a " piece of

paper " but your patients will benefit in the long run.

>

> " If you think education is expensive, try ignorance. "

>

> Forey EMT-P

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Well said .

Regards,

Alfonso R. Ochoa

> This fall, i went back to school to get my License Paramedic, and to

also start the transition course to become an RN.

>

> I took A & P 1, A & P 2, Microbiology, Pharmo (for nursing), and

Foundations for nursing.

>

> While paramedic school taught me what to do, why do to it, when to

do it, it didn't teach me the bodies response and reactions. Through

A & P, I have learned now why the body does what it does.

>

> I went through on of the best EMT programs in the state, but they

still failed to teach certain things (as with any program).

>

> My point being, the education might not get us more money, and we

might just get a " piece of paper " in the long run. The knowledge that

we gain through these extra classes with help us, and help out patients.

>

> I work in a rural ems setting. We are on the Bolivar Peninsula

(Galveston county). We have to ride a 20 ferry just to get to the

hospital. There are only 2 paramedics on the entire peninsula. Our

population in the winter is about 5,000 and in the summer, it rises up

to about 50,000 easily (because of the beach). Our service is the

only MICU Capable unit on the entire peninsula. It's nothing for us

to have to drive 20 miles down to the other end of the peninsula to

help out in a full arrest or 10-50.

>

> I encourage everyone, wether basic level or paramedic level, to go

back and take those extra classes. You might just get a " piece of

paper " but your patients will benefit in the long run.

>

> " If you think education is expensive, try ignorance. "

>

> Forey EMT-P

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