Guest guest Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 I forgot to mention that I've also had really bad brain fog and am feeling pretty depressed, which is unusual because I was feeling a lot better during and after previous rounds. Is this a normal side effect, or should I consider dropping down the ALA dose? > > I am on my 9th round, most rounds 7 days. I am currently taking 75mg > DMPS every 6 hours and ALA 37.5mg every 3 hours. I upped the ALA this > round from 25 to 37.5 mg. I am feeling more tired and irritable than > usual, and am noticing an increase in tinnitus, which previously had > been decreasing with each round. My questions are: > > 1. Should I continue at this dose with the increased side effects, or > drop back down to 25mg? If so, can this be done mid round? > 2. Most of my rounds have been with DMPS, but I have done a few with > DMSA. Can I switch back and forth between rounds? I would like to try > the DMSA again since I already have some, the DMPS is much more > expensive, and I take a dose every 3 hours anyway. > > Thanks. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 I forgot to mention that I've also had really bad brain fog and am feeling pretty depressed, which is unusual because I was feeling a lot better during and after previous rounds. Is this a normal side effect, or should I consider dropping down the ALA dose? > > I am on my 9th round, most rounds 7 days. I am currently taking 75mg > DMPS every 6 hours and ALA 37.5mg every 3 hours. I upped the ALA this > round from 25 to 37.5 mg. I am feeling more tired and irritable than > usual, and am noticing an increase in tinnitus, which previously had > been decreasing with each round. My questions are: > > 1. Should I continue at this dose with the increased side effects, or > drop back down to 25mg? If so, can this be done mid round? > 2. Most of my rounds have been with DMPS, but I have done a few with > DMSA. Can I switch back and forth between rounds? I would like to try > the DMSA again since I already have some, the DMPS is much more > expensive, and I take a dose every 3 hours anyway. > > Thanks. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 I forgot to mention that I've also had really bad brain fog and am feeling pretty depressed, which is unusual because I was feeling a lot better during and after previous rounds. Is this a normal side effect, or should I consider dropping down the ALA dose? > > I am on my 9th round, most rounds 7 days. I am currently taking 75mg > DMPS every 6 hours and ALA 37.5mg every 3 hours. I upped the ALA this > round from 25 to 37.5 mg. I am feeling more tired and irritable than > usual, and am noticing an increase in tinnitus, which previously had > been decreasing with each round. My questions are: > > 1. Should I continue at this dose with the increased side effects, or > drop back down to 25mg? If so, can this be done mid round? > 2. Most of my rounds have been with DMPS, but I have done a few with > DMSA. Can I switch back and forth between rounds? I would like to try > the DMSA again since I already have some, the DMPS is much more > expensive, and I take a dose every 3 hours anyway. > > Thanks. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 If it was me? I would continue on that dose. Unless the effects are intolerable, it's not always a bad thing to get side effects to a point, certainly with alpha lipoic acid you are going to get symptoms. You might have been noticing improvements on the other dose, but sometimes it's time to increase a little and obviously you're noticing the symptoms more now because of that. I wouldn't really alter a dose mid round, it appears to cause some redistribution. Some of us are just too weak, poisoned and suseptible to take chances like that, that others might get away with just fine. Stick to the same dose and if you want to change it, wait till you finish the round, wait a few days and then take the dose you want to take. Just my personal opinion. Again, the symptoms you're getting from the increased dose to my mind are not a bad sign, unless they're intolerable. I don't see why switching back and forth from DMSA to DMPS between rounds would be much of an issue, so long as dose is kept stable and you're not making changes mid round. But again, I'm no expert, just my opinion. > : > > 1. Should I continue at this dose with the increased side affects, or > drop back down to 25mg? If so, can this be done mid round? > 2. Most of my rounds have been with DMPS, but I have done a few with > DMSA. Can I switch back and forth between rounds? I would like to try > the DMSA again since I already have some, the DMPS is much more > expensive, and I take a dose every 3 hours anyway. > > Thanks. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 If it was me? I would continue on that dose. Unless the effects are intolerable, it's not always a bad thing to get side effects to a point, certainly with alpha lipoic acid you are going to get symptoms. You might have been noticing improvements on the other dose, but sometimes it's time to increase a little and obviously you're noticing the symptoms more now because of that. I wouldn't really alter a dose mid round, it appears to cause some redistribution. Some of us are just too weak, poisoned and suseptible to take chances like that, that others might get away with just fine. Stick to the same dose and if you want to change it, wait till you finish the round, wait a few days and then take the dose you want to take. Just my personal opinion. Again, the symptoms you're getting from the increased dose to my mind are not a bad sign, unless they're intolerable. I don't see why switching back and forth from DMSA to DMPS between rounds would be much of an issue, so long as dose is kept stable and you're not making changes mid round. But again, I'm no expert, just my opinion. > : > > 1. Should I continue at this dose with the increased side affects, or > drop back down to 25mg? If so, can this be done mid round? > 2. Most of my rounds have been with DMPS, but I have done a few with > DMSA. Can I switch back and forth between rounds? I would like to try > the DMSA again since I already have some, the DMPS is much more > expensive, and I take a dose every 3 hours anyway. > > Thanks. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 Hard to say. I'm sure others on here will be more informative and careful than me. I've had some awful reactions from pushing things too far, so I certainly know how dangerous it can be. But again, I can usually handle some side effects. if I get none and I continue to get none, that usually tells me it's time to up the dose a bit. So you see it's kind of finding that balance between putting up with some symptoms, but not pushing yourself over the edge. However, in saying that, the fact you might feel better on the other dose, could be a good sign in that it is still removing mercury at a rate to where it's actually " keeping you well " . It's when you don't really notice anything that it's time to change something. So if the previous dose gave improvements, it's still a sign of something happening obviously. But if you want to try and push things a wee bit further, it's up to you to what you want to tolerate in achieving that. But improvements or side effects (ones that are at least slightly tolerable) can both be positive signs of mercury removal. No side effects, and no improvements, are the signs that something isn't right and either the dose needs to be increased, or the person needs to start using ALA, or they may have another medical problem blocking them from responding or healing (cavitations for example), or they have another problem than mercury. > > I forgot to mention that I've also had really bad brain fog and am > feeling pretty depressed, which is unusual because I was feeling a lot > better during and after previous rounds. Is this a normal side effect, > or should I consider dropping down the ALA dose? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 Hard to say. I'm sure others on here will be more informative and careful than me. I've had some awful reactions from pushing things too far, so I certainly know how dangerous it can be. But again, I can usually handle some side effects. if I get none and I continue to get none, that usually tells me it's time to up the dose a bit. So you see it's kind of finding that balance between putting up with some symptoms, but not pushing yourself over the edge. However, in saying that, the fact you might feel better on the other dose, could be a good sign in that it is still removing mercury at a rate to where it's actually " keeping you well " . It's when you don't really notice anything that it's time to change something. So if the previous dose gave improvements, it's still a sign of something happening obviously. But if you want to try and push things a wee bit further, it's up to you to what you want to tolerate in achieving that. But improvements or side effects (ones that are at least slightly tolerable) can both be positive signs of mercury removal. No side effects, and no improvements, are the signs that something isn't right and either the dose needs to be increased, or the person needs to start using ALA, or they may have another medical problem blocking them from responding or healing (cavitations for example), or they have another problem than mercury. > > I forgot to mention that I've also had really bad brain fog and am > feeling pretty depressed, which is unusual because I was feeling a lot > better during and after previous rounds. Is this a normal side effect, > or should I consider dropping down the ALA dose? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 Hard to say. I'm sure others on here will be more informative and careful than me. I've had some awful reactions from pushing things too far, so I certainly know how dangerous it can be. But again, I can usually handle some side effects. if I get none and I continue to get none, that usually tells me it's time to up the dose a bit. So you see it's kind of finding that balance between putting up with some symptoms, but not pushing yourself over the edge. However, in saying that, the fact you might feel better on the other dose, could be a good sign in that it is still removing mercury at a rate to where it's actually " keeping you well " . It's when you don't really notice anything that it's time to change something. So if the previous dose gave improvements, it's still a sign of something happening obviously. But if you want to try and push things a wee bit further, it's up to you to what you want to tolerate in achieving that. But improvements or side effects (ones that are at least slightly tolerable) can both be positive signs of mercury removal. No side effects, and no improvements, are the signs that something isn't right and either the dose needs to be increased, or the person needs to start using ALA, or they may have another medical problem blocking them from responding or healing (cavitations for example), or they have another problem than mercury. > > I forgot to mention that I've also had really bad brain fog and am > feeling pretty depressed, which is unusual because I was feeling a lot > better during and after previous rounds. Is this a normal side effect, > or should I consider dropping down the ALA dose? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2006 Report Share Posted September 8, 2006 > > I am on my 9th round, most rounds 7 days. I am currently taking 75mg > DMPS every 6 hours and ALA 37.5mg every 3 hours. I upped the ALA this > round from 25 to 37.5 mg. I am feeling more tired and irritable than > usual, and am noticing an increase in tinnitus, which previously had > been decreasing with each round. My questions are: > > 1. Should I continue at this dose with the increased side affects TK--- if the side effects are tollerable yes , or > drop back down to 25mg? TK--- if they are not go back If so, can this be done mid round? TK--- yes > 2. Most of my rounds have been with DMPS, but I have done a few with > DMSA. Can I switch back and forth between rounds? TK-- you can but it may make things more confusing switching back and forth I would like to try > the DMSA again since I already have some, the DMPS is much more > expensive, and I take a dose every 3 hours anyway. > > Thanks. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2006 Report Share Posted September 8, 2006 > > I am on my 9th round, most rounds 7 days. I am currently taking 75mg > DMPS every 6 hours and ALA 37.5mg every 3 hours. I upped the ALA this > round from 25 to 37.5 mg. I am feeling more tired and irritable than > usual, and am noticing an increase in tinnitus, which previously had > been decreasing with each round. My questions are: > > 1. Should I continue at this dose with the increased side affects TK--- if the side effects are tollerable yes , or > drop back down to 25mg? TK--- if they are not go back If so, can this be done mid round? TK--- yes > 2. Most of my rounds have been with DMPS, but I have done a few with > DMSA. Can I switch back and forth between rounds? TK-- you can but it may make things more confusing switching back and forth I would like to try > the DMSA again since I already have some, the DMPS is much more > expensive, and I take a dose every 3 hours anyway. > > Thanks. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2006 Report Share Posted September 8, 2006 Thanks to everyone who responded. The side effects are tolerable, so I will continue at this dose of ALA. My only concern was that there might be some mercury redistribution since I was experiencing increased tinnitus. How long can I go on this round? I saw some posts a few months ago about continuous chelation. My only limiting factors are running out of DMPS and getting tired of waking twice during the night to take a dose. I have slept through the alarm (Invisible Clock) twice and woke up 45-60 minutes later and took the dose anyway. I know to discontinue the round if I miss a dose by more than that. Thanks, > > I am on my 9th round, most rounds 7 days. I am currently taking 75mg > > DMPS every 6 hours and ALA 37.5mg every 3 hours. I upped the ALA this > > round from 25 to 37.5 mg. I am feeling more tired and irritable than > > usual, and am noticing an increase in tinnitus, which previously had > > been decreasing with each round. My questions are: > > > > 1. Should I continue at this dose with the increased side affects > > TK--- if the side effects are tollerable yes > , or > > drop back down to 25mg? > TK--- if they are not go back > If so, can this be done mid round? > TK--- yes > > 2. Most of my rounds have been with DMPS, but I have done a few with > > DMSA. Can I switch back and forth between rounds? > > TK-- you can but it may make things more confusing switching back and forth > > I would like to try > > the DMSA again since I already have some, the DMPS is much more > > expensive, and I take a dose every 3 hours anyway. > > > > Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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