Re: what to do if DMSA makes you extremely tired and achy

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi,

>

> I know that I have a serious mercury problem. I've tried DMSA 50

mgs

> every 4 hours and find that it makes me extremely tired and achy?

TK--- reduce dosage to tollerance would be my first suggestion

without more info.

How long are your rounds ? Breaks ?

How many have you done at 50mg ?

I

> haven't started lipoic acid yet.

>

> I live overseas and the doctor overseeing my DMSA taking is quite

> interested by Cutler's work, but not aware of all the subleties.

What

> can I do to not be so enormously tired and achy with DMSA?

TK--- Reduce dosage possibly, decrease timing 3hr, increase

supplementation - need more info on what exactly you are doing and

taking.

>

> Steve

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi,

>

> I know that I have a serious mercury problem. I've tried DMSA 50

mgs

> every 4 hours and find that it makes me extremely tired and achy?

TK--- reduce dosage to tollerance would be my first suggestion

without more info.

How long are your rounds ? Breaks ?

How many have you done at 50mg ?

I

> haven't started lipoic acid yet.

>

> I live overseas and the doctor overseeing my DMSA taking is quite

> interested by Cutler's work, but not aware of all the subleties.

What

> can I do to not be so enormously tired and achy with DMSA?

TK--- Reduce dosage possibly, decrease timing 3hr, increase

supplementation - need more info on what exactly you are doing and

taking.

>

> Steve

>

[Guest guest]

I haven't tried the Cutler method yet, but my reaction to any mild chelating

agent is also extreme fatigue.

Is there anyone out there that has regained energy by using the Cutler method?

Ro

Olin

what to do if DMSA makes you extremely

tired and achy

Hi,

I know that I have a serious mercury problem. I've tried DMSA 50 mgs

every 4 hours and find that it makes me extremely tired and achy? I

haven't started lipoic acid yet.

I live overseas and the doctor overseeing my DMSA taking is quite

interested by Cutler's work, but not aware of all the subleties. What

can I do to not be so enormously tired and achy with DMSA?

Steve

[Guest guest]

I haven't tried the Cutler method yet, but my reaction to any mild chelating

agent is also extreme fatigue.

Is there anyone out there that has regained energy by using the Cutler method?

Ro

Olin

what to do if DMSA makes you extremely

tired and achy

Hi,

I know that I have a serious mercury problem. I've tried DMSA 50 mgs

every 4 hours and find that it makes me extremely tired and achy? I

haven't started lipoic acid yet.

I live overseas and the doctor overseeing my DMSA taking is quite

interested by Cutler's work, but not aware of all the subleties. What

can I do to not be so enormously tired and achy with DMSA?

Steve

[Guest guest]

I am continuing rounds myself and also

experiencing some tired and achyness but for me it

is the days I am off chelation. I am doing 3

days/2 nights on at 5mg DMSA with no problems of

SOB or ataxia or worsened MS symptoms as in

earlier trials. I am on day 2 off and very very

tired. I have a tested very high mercury level

problem and chronic relapsing progressive MS

likely due to mercury (high fish intake as cause,

no amalgams ever or immuniz).

Hot here and can't be out in heat at all.period.

_____

From: frequent-dose-chelation

[mailto:frequent-dose-chelation ]

On Behalf Of TK

Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 10:52 AM

To: frequent-dose-chelation

Subject: Re: what to do

if DMSA makes you extremely tired and achy

>

> Hi,

>

> I know that I have a serious mercury problem.

I've tried DMSA 50

mgs

> every 4 hours and find that it makes me

extremely tired and achy?

TK--- reduce dosage to tollerance would be my

first suggestion

without more info.

How long are your rounds ? Breaks ?

How many have you done at 50mg ?

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Olin wrote:

>I haven't tried the Cutler method yet, but my reaction to any mild chelating

agent is also extreme fatigue.

>

>

I'm not sure there is such a thing as a 'mild' chelating agent. Either

it chelates, or it doesn't.

>Is there anyone out there that has regained energy by using the Cutler method?

>

>

Yes. I'm one. I have gone from pretty much housebound to pretty

independent. I don't have as much energy as a completely healthy person,

but I would say that I've gone from 20% healthy to a good 75-80%. And

improvement continues.

Others have posted on this list about their recovery or partial recovery

on the Cutler protocol before. You might try searching the archives

here, or on Onibasu.com .

Regards,

de Vries

[Guest guest]

We are using 10mg dmsa with my son on Andy's protocol and fatigue

has not been a problem.

But he is on all the recommended supplements, lot of

vitmains/minerals, Grapefruit seed extract, probiotics to make sure

he does not get gut yeast during a round. Or get low in any

minerals. If you develop yeast this can make you tired. As can not

getting enough vitmains/minerals.

>

> I haven't tried the Cutler method yet, but my reaction to any mild

chelating agent is also extreme fatigue.

>

> Is there anyone out there that has regained energy by using the

Cutler method?

> Ro

> Olin

>

> what to do if DMSA makes you

extremely tired and achy

>

>

> Hi,

>

> I know that I have a serious mercury problem. I've tried DMSA 50

mgs

> every 4 hours and find that it makes me extremely tired and

achy? I

> haven't started lipoic acid yet.

>

> I live overseas and the doctor overseeing my DMSA taking is

quite

> interested by Cutler's work, but not aware of all the subleties.

What

> can I do to not be so enormously tired and achy with DMSA?

>

> Steve

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, I have been chelating for a year now. I had tremendous

fatigue and achiness in the beginning, but this has improved

a lot. Important to keep your dose low enough in the beginning.

--

>

> I haven't tried the Cutler method yet, but my reaction to any mild

chelating agent is also extreme fatigue.

>

> Is there anyone out there that has regained energy by using the

Cutler method?

> Ro

> Olin

>

> what to do if DMSA makes you

extremely tired and achy

>

>

> Hi,

>

> I know that I have a serious mercury problem. I've tried DMSA 50 mgs

> every 4 hours and find that it makes me extremely tired and achy? I

> haven't started lipoic acid yet.

>

> I live overseas and the doctor overseeing my DMSA taking is quite

> interested by Cutler's work, but not aware of all the subleties. What

> can I do to not be so enormously tired and achy with DMSA?

>

> Steve

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

The first day is usually the best for me when I'm on a new round. My mind is

sharper and I have decent energy. I use clays and sauna's to keep from getting

too wiped out and to recover quickly and am only doing two and a half days

now.

what to do if DMSA makes you extremely

tired and achy

Hi,

I know that I have a serious mercury problem. I've tried DMSA 50 mgs

every 4 hours and find that it makes me extremely tired and achy? I

haven't started lipoic acid yet.

I live overseas and the doctor overseeing my DMSA taking is quite

interested by Cutler's work, but not aware of all the subleties. What

can I do to not be so enormously tired and achy with DMSA?

Steve

[Guest guest]

The first day is usually the best for me when I'm on a new round. My mind is

sharper and I have decent energy. I use clays and sauna's to keep from getting

too wiped out and to recover quickly and am only doing two and a half days

now.

what to do if DMSA makes you extremely

tired and achy

Hi,

I know that I have a serious mercury problem. I've tried DMSA 50 mgs

every 4 hours and find that it makes me extremely tired and achy? I

haven't started lipoic acid yet.

I live overseas and the doctor overseeing my DMSA taking is quite

interested by Cutler's work, but not aware of all the subleties. What

can I do to not be so enormously tired and achy with DMSA?

Steve

[Guest guest]

I've improved, but it has taken a while. When I was first doing DMSA @ 50mg (I

weigh 150lbs) via Cutler Protocol, I was asleep for an entire day on the

weekend. I switched to 12.5 every 4 hours, and though I wasn't full of vim and

vigor, I wasn't disabled :-).

I have since moved up to 25 mg of DMSA w/ no problems. (At that time I was able

to sleep w/o meds for the first time in 10 years.) I then added 25 mg of ALA

and it was taxing the first two rounds, but now on my third round, I seem to be

handling it well.

I read others say that they had more energy while on round, and I didn't know

what they were talking about. I can now say I do! It's a very small change for

me, but quite noticeable.

I'm really optimistic, that I can get my life back again. My son is now on

DMSA, and I will get blood tests for him, just to make sure everything is cool.

After a few more rounds of that and with approval I'll add in the ALA. He is

already in summer camp and saying that he doesn't need his meds; he can control

himself without them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[Guest guest]

I get brain fog, tired, achy, and headaches. I drink around a quart of

water each hour or so to rinse out the stirred up hg. The water

guzzling provides substantial relief, and even helps more than aspirin

or tylenol.

Of course, reducing dosage would be prudent.

Good luck,

Shay

[Guest guest]

I get brain fog, tired, achy, and headaches. I drink around a quart of

water each hour or so to rinse out the stirred up hg. The water

guzzling provides substantial relief, and even helps more than aspirin

or tylenol.

Of course, reducing dosage would be prudent.

Good luck,

Shay

[Guest guest]

Here a video of an actual filmed experiment showing what mercury does to brain

dendrites.

http://commons.ucalgary.ca/showcase/curtains.php?src=http://apollo.ucalgary.ca/m\

ercury/movies/Lor2_QTS_700kb_QD.mov & screenwidth=512 & screenheight=400 & curtains=no

RO

Re: what to do if DMSA makes you extremely

tired and achy

I get brain fog, tired, achy, and headaches. I drink around a quart of

water each hour or so to rinse out the stirred up hg. The water

guzzling provides substantial relief, and even helps more than aspirin

or tylenol.

Of course, reducing dosage would be prudent.

Good luck,

Shay

[Guest guest]

Here a video of an actual filmed experiment showing what mercury does to brain

dendrites.

http://commons.ucalgary.ca/showcase/curtains.php?src=http://apollo.ucalgary.ca/m\

ercury/movies/Lor2_QTS_700kb_QD.mov & screenwidth=512 & screenheight=400 & curtains=no

RO

Re: what to do if DMSA makes you extremely

tired and achy

I get brain fog, tired, achy, and headaches. I drink around a quart of

water each hour or so to rinse out the stirred up hg. The water

guzzling provides substantial relief, and even helps more than aspirin

or tylenol.

Of course, reducing dosage would be prudent.

Good luck,

Shay

[Guest guest]

Here a video of an actual filmed experiment showing what mercury does to brain

dendrites.

http://commons.ucalgary.ca/showcase/curtains.php?src=http://apollo.ucalgary.ca/m\

ercury/movies/Lor2_QTS_700kb_QD.mov & screenwidth=512 & screenheight=400 & curtains=no

RO

Re: what to do if DMSA makes you extremely

tired and achy

I get brain fog, tired, achy, and headaches. I drink around a quart of

water each hour or so to rinse out the stirred up hg. The water

guzzling provides substantial relief, and even helps more than aspirin

or tylenol.

Of course, reducing dosage would be prudent.

Good luck,

Shay

[Guest guest]

Is everyone taking the recomended amounts of vitamins and minerals?

I know this helps with side effects. With my daugher who is taking

12.5 mg of dmsa every four hours, her first day was great. But the

second was like a tons of bricks hit her. Really tired, not much

appetite. I double checked her supplements and increased her vitamin C

to tolerance. The side effects were much less.

I know that when I had my amalgams removed I got pretty sick for a few

weeks, and the only think that kept me going was 1000mg of vitamin C

like every four to six hours. As I would get close to the four/six

hour mark, I would start to get mercury symtpoms really bad.

Please use caution with tylenol, it is hard on the liver, which is

already under stress during chelation. Liver support is recomended (as

you probably already know), but tylenol in the stew will really put

the pressure on.

I may be repeating information that all of you already know, but I

thought maybe the experience with taking vitamin C everytime you feel

terible, might help someone.

>

> I get brain fog, tired, achy, and headaches. I drink around a quart

of

> water each hour or so to rinse out the stirred up hg. The water

> guzzling provides substantial relief, and even helps more than