Guest guest Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 > > > TK--- I am not sure this would be appropriate here if you are > > getting paid by [clients] for your help ? > > Hi TK. > I'm actually not getting paid for my services with regard to the hair > testing. It is something that I am doing as a extra interest to get to the > bottom of issues with people I have known and treated for years. TK--- But you are getting paid which is the problem. We may be able to work around it if you are willing to provide more patient information so we can set up another links and follow progress. This way people would be able to gain more insight into hair interpretation. The interpretations would need to be more complete also so people looking at the file could easily understand the information -I think this could help others trying to interpret hair analysis. Moria already has a file on this but it does not track each individual which would be of benefit and Andy might like this information also. The > majority of these clients are actually close friends. > > My intent was simply to get a good grasp of this work from these initial 12 > tests to ensure that mistakes are not made that hurt people, and in the > future get on track with interpreting the tests myself. TK--- I appreciate this and believe this to be true and if you are willing to share more information so we can also learn I think it may be beneficial for both. Here are some suggestions from that I think would help - - I think a fair and responsible solution to this problem would be to have each of Dean's patients/clients get their own yahoo account, join the group, and post their own hair tests if they choose. This would ensure (as much as possible): TK--- having their own account if possible would help. (1) that they are in control of their personal data, (2) that they receive (and hopefully read) all the disclaimers that any member of the group receives, and (3) that they understand where the interpretation of their test results is coming from (ie, from another member of the group, who is mercury-poisoned, who happens to have read and understood Andy's HTI book, and who has no professional medical training or expertise). (I assume that any member of the group understands #3 implicitly, but perhaps I should state this as a disclaimer when I comment on a test.) This might be difficult or impractical on their end, but it seems sensible and minimizes any ethical concerns. What do you think? -- I'm aware that each > and every person that engages in this work should have a copy of each of > Andy's books in any case to assume self responsibility for their process. TK--- yes, so you can go over them yourself and make sure that someone elses interpretation is correct. > > It was cretainly not my intent to abuse the services/time of this group and > was innocently under the impression that it would benefit people on list > also. TK--- I think it could if set up correctly where we have a file on each person with their problems and hair analysis so we can learn and track chelation. This would not include any personal info. I didn't even pause to consider how it could look from an external > perspective, but can see what could be read into it now. TK-- Just a concern on this end that we do this correctly and that everyone is on board. With them being clients it makes it more difficult ethically. > > I do therefore acknowledge your concerns and will work from Andy's book as > suggested. TK--- If you wish to set something up on this end so it is informational to us all a couple members are willing to help interpret. That way we could have additional info to learn from. There could be a file for each person, their health problems, meds, hair tests etc to review. This would make some extra work for you and me but if people would find it valuable it can be done. > Thanks, > Dean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 Hi TK, I may have an interesting solution that could help us all. I helped create and maintain a website that works with natural healing methods. It is still in its infancy and is growing in content (and is certainly not flashy), but the main intent is to be an informational starting point for people taking responsibility for their health and springboard them towards healing themselves. Different opinions are house their to give people choice about what path to follow, but so far I have found Andy Cutler, Hulda and Hal Huggins to lead the way towards health. I recently completed a summary of what I learned about Oral Chelation and put it up there (I have mentioned it previously) and also a link to Andy's website and the books to encourage people to buy them and support his work. In any case, someone made a good suggestion off-list, that being that I upload the PDF hair test results on the web for all to see. We can then have discussions about them and I can include a lot of background information about their health history, dental work, age, and much more etc. I can use Acrobat reader to edit out the name of the person to protect their identity and all of them(baring one) I know so well that I know they will give their permission. Some of them don't even see me as clients, rather are friends, but I have all their health information so close at hand and know it well. I work with such a small number of people and have long appointments so we discuss their lives in depth. I am certain they will have no problem with me posting the tests and if we give the hair test numbers or nicknames their identity is protected anyway. The only issue is that they might recognise each other even without names and I don't share their personal information between them eg age and sex. But I'll check with them. We can do this will other people on the this list too and build up quite a data-base of interest to chart patterns. For example all of the 5 test I have back are high in aluminium - our water department in Cape Town adds aluminium oxide to our water! We could learn a lot about what chemicals are high where, so perhaps we should include City as part of their information in their hair test? Since I know how to update the website it can be changed regularly. The URL is www.livingnetwork.co.za What do you think? Dean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 Hi TK, I may have an interesting solution that could help us all. I helped create and maintain a website that works with natural healing methods. It is still in its infancy and is growing in content (and is certainly not flashy), but the main intent is to be an informational starting point for people taking responsibility for their health and springboard them towards healing themselves. Different opinions are house their to give people choice about what path to follow, but so far I have found Andy Cutler, Hulda and Hal Huggins to lead the way towards health. I recently completed a summary of what I learned about Oral Chelation and put it up there (I have mentioned it previously) and also a link to Andy's website and the books to encourage people to buy them and support his work. In any case, someone made a good suggestion off-list, that being that I upload the PDF hair test results on the web for all to see. We can then have discussions about them and I can include a lot of background information about their health history, dental work, age, and much more etc. I can use Acrobat reader to edit out the name of the person to protect their identity and all of them(baring one) I know so well that I know they will give their permission. Some of them don't even see me as clients, rather are friends, but I have all their health information so close at hand and know it well. I work with such a small number of people and have long appointments so we discuss their lives in depth. I am certain they will have no problem with me posting the tests and if we give the hair test numbers or nicknames their identity is protected anyway. The only issue is that they might recognise each other even without names and I don't share their personal information between them eg age and sex. But I'll check with them. We can do this will other people on the this list too and build up quite a data-base of interest to chart patterns. For example all of the 5 test I have back are high in aluminium - our water department in Cape Town adds aluminium oxide to our water! We could learn a lot about what chemicals are high where, so perhaps we should include City as part of their information in their hair test? Since I know how to update the website it can be changed regularly. The URL is www.livingnetwork.co.za What do you think? Dean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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