Re: Re: New poll for graves_support

[Guest guest]

This topic keeps coming up -- some of us noticed long ago, way back on the

NGDF BB, that many diagnoses of Graves were preceded by sinus infections

followed by heavy doses of antibiotics or vaccines or viruses.

I had a KILLER sinus infection and problems for four months prior to my

Graves diagnosis!

B

Thanks again to all on those lump in throat comments!

Re: Re: New poll for graves_support

>

>

> > adult, my first sign was sinus problems, something I had never had in my

> > life until GD...so I am convinced they play apart after reading so many

> > posts here and on mediboard of the people with sinus problems.

>

> That's kindof funny -- that was also one of the first things that went

> " wrong " with me too. I've never had sinus problems or allergies, and

> suddenly I've had one big Sinus Infection from Hell that's lasted

> well over a year, as well as " sudden " allergies to pollen, pets that I've

> had for years, etc.

>

> Unfortunately, most of my family died young of cancer and other equally

> wonderful things, so I'm not sure where my GD came from -- but I'm 99%

> sure that I got Hashi's from my dad. Looking back at his last couple of

> years before he died (cancer -- I was 15), I see many of the same problems

> that I've had, including Hypoglycemia. I sometimes wonder if him having

> cancer in his throat and vocal cords could have masked thyroid problems

> -- ie: the doctors were too busy removing everything from his neck to

> notice the condition of his thyroid. I think I read somewhere once that

> Hashi's is commonly carried by men, although they may never exhibit it.

> Other than that possible link, I've got no clue where I got GD and H from.

>

> --patti

>

>

> *~*~*~*~*

> Patti Spicer patti@...

>

>

> " The silence is as important as the noise. What gets left out is

> as important as what gets included "

> --Sara Lawrence-Lightfoot, author of " I've Known Rivers "

>

> http://www.cyphergirl.com - My photography, cookbooks, thyroid info, and

more!

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

This topic keeps coming up -- some of us noticed long ago, way back on the

NGDF BB, that many diagnoses of Graves were preceded by sinus infections

followed by heavy doses of antibiotics or vaccines or viruses.

I had a KILLER sinus infection and problems for four months prior to my

Graves diagnosis!

B

Thanks again to all on those lump in throat comments!

Re: Re: New poll for graves_support

>

>

> > adult, my first sign was sinus problems, something I had never had in my

> > life until GD...so I am convinced they play apart after reading so many

> > posts here and on mediboard of the people with sinus problems.

>

> That's kindof funny -- that was also one of the first things that went

> " wrong " with me too. I've never had sinus problems or allergies, and

> suddenly I've had one big Sinus Infection from Hell that's lasted

> well over a year, as well as " sudden " allergies to pollen, pets that I've

> had for years, etc.

>

> Unfortunately, most of my family died young of cancer and other equally

> wonderful things, so I'm not sure where my GD came from -- but I'm 99%

> sure that I got Hashi's from my dad. Looking back at his last couple of

> years before he died (cancer -- I was 15), I see many of the same problems

> that I've had, including Hypoglycemia. I sometimes wonder if him having

> cancer in his throat and vocal cords could have masked thyroid problems

> -- ie: the doctors were too busy removing everything from his neck to

> notice the condition of his thyroid. I think I read somewhere once that

> Hashi's is commonly carried by men, although they may never exhibit it.

> Other than that possible link, I've got no clue where I got GD and H from.

>

> --patti

>

>

> *~*~*~*~*

> Patti Spicer patti@...

>

>

> " The silence is as important as the noise. What gets left out is

> as important as what gets included "

> --Sara Lawrence-Lightfoot, author of " I've Known Rivers "

>

> http://www.cyphergirl.com - My photography, cookbooks, thyroid info, and

more!

>

>

>

> -------------------------------------

> The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not

intended to replace expert medical care.

> Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments.

> ----------------------------------------

> DISCLAIMER

>

> Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list does not have the

endorsement of

> the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails.

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>

>

[Guest guest]

This topic keeps coming up -- some of us noticed long ago, way back on the

NGDF BB, that many diagnoses of Graves were preceded by sinus infections

followed by heavy doses of antibiotics or vaccines or viruses.

I had a KILLER sinus infection and problems for four months prior to my

Graves diagnosis!

B

Thanks again to all on those lump in throat comments!

Re: Re: New poll for graves_support

>

>

> > adult, my first sign was sinus problems, something I had never had in my

> > life until GD...so I am convinced they play apart after reading so many

> > posts here and on mediboard of the people with sinus problems.

>

> That's kindof funny -- that was also one of the first things that went

> " wrong " with me too. I've never had sinus problems or allergies, and

> suddenly I've had one big Sinus Infection from Hell that's lasted

> well over a year, as well as " sudden " allergies to pollen, pets that I've

> had for years, etc.

>

> Unfortunately, most of my family died young of cancer and other equally

> wonderful things, so I'm not sure where my GD came from -- but I'm 99%

> sure that I got Hashi's from my dad. Looking back at his last couple of

> years before he died (cancer -- I was 15), I see many of the same problems

> that I've had, including Hypoglycemia. I sometimes wonder if him having

> cancer in his throat and vocal cords could have masked thyroid problems

> -- ie: the doctors were too busy removing everything from his neck to

> notice the condition of his thyroid. I think I read somewhere once that

> Hashi's is commonly carried by men, although they may never exhibit it.

> Other than that possible link, I've got no clue where I got GD and H from.

>

> --patti

>

>

> *~*~*~*~*

> Patti Spicer patti@...

>

>

> " The silence is as important as the noise. What gets left out is

> as important as what gets included "

> --Sara Lawrence-Lightfoot, author of " I've Known Rivers "

>

> http://www.cyphergirl.com - My photography, cookbooks, thyroid info, and

more!

>

>

>

> -------------------------------------

> The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not

intended to replace expert medical care.

> Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments.

> ----------------------------------------

> DISCLAIMER

>

> Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list does not have the

endorsement of

> the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails.

> --------------------------------------------------------------------------

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>

>

[Guest guest]

> adult, my first sign was sinus problems, something I had never had in my

> life until GD...so I am convinced they play apart after reading so many

> posts here and on mediboard of the people with sinus problems.

That's kindof funny -- that was also one of the first things that went

" wrong " with me too. I've never had sinus problems or allergies, and

suddenly I've had one big Sinus Infection from Hell that's lasted

well over a year, as well as " sudden " allergies to pollen, pets that I've

had for years, etc.

Unfortunately, most of my family died young of cancer and other equally

wonderful things, so I'm not sure where my GD came from -- but I'm 99%

sure that I got Hashi's from my dad. Looking back at his last couple of

years before he died (cancer -- I was 15), I see many of the same problems

that I've had, including Hypoglycemia. I sometimes wonder if him having

cancer in his throat and vocal cords could have masked thyroid problems

-- ie: the doctors were too busy removing everything from his neck to

notice the condition of his thyroid. I think I read somewhere once that

Hashi's is commonly carried by men, although they may never exhibit it.

Other than that possible link, I've got no clue where I got GD and H from.

--patti

*~*~*~*~*

Patti Spicer patti@...

" The silence is as important as the noise. What gets left out is

as important as what gets included "

--Sara Lawrence-Lightfoot, author of " I've Known Rivers "

http://www.cyphergirl.com - My photography, cookbooks, thyroid info, and more!

[Guest guest]

> adult, my first sign was sinus problems, something I had never had in my

> life until GD...so I am convinced they play apart after reading so many

> posts here and on mediboard of the people with sinus problems.

That's kindof funny -- that was also one of the first things that went

" wrong " with me too. I've never had sinus problems or allergies, and

suddenly I've had one big Sinus Infection from Hell that's lasted

well over a year, as well as " sudden " allergies to pollen, pets that I've

had for years, etc.

Unfortunately, most of my family died young of cancer and other equally

wonderful things, so I'm not sure where my GD came from -- but I'm 99%

sure that I got Hashi's from my dad. Looking back at his last couple of

years before he died (cancer -- I was 15), I see many of the same problems

that I've had, including Hypoglycemia. I sometimes wonder if him having

cancer in his throat and vocal cords could have masked thyroid problems

-- ie: the doctors were too busy removing everything from his neck to

notice the condition of his thyroid. I think I read somewhere once that

Hashi's is commonly carried by men, although they may never exhibit it.

Other than that possible link, I've got no clue where I got GD and H from.

--patti

*~*~*~*~*

Patti Spicer patti@...

" The silence is as important as the noise. What gets left out is

as important as what gets included "

--Sara Lawrence-Lightfoot, author of " I've Known Rivers "

http://www.cyphergirl.com - My photography, cookbooks, thyroid info, and more!

[Guest guest]

> adult, my first sign was sinus problems, something I had never had in my

> life until GD...so I am convinced they play apart after reading so many

> posts here and on mediboard of the people with sinus problems.

That's kindof funny -- that was also one of the first things that went

" wrong " with me too. I've never had sinus problems or allergies, and

suddenly I've had one big Sinus Infection from Hell that's lasted

well over a year, as well as " sudden " allergies to pollen, pets that I've

had for years, etc.

Unfortunately, most of my family died young of cancer and other equally

wonderful things, so I'm not sure where my GD came from -- but I'm 99%

sure that I got Hashi's from my dad. Looking back at his last couple of

years before he died (cancer -- I was 15), I see many of the same problems

that I've had, including Hypoglycemia. I sometimes wonder if him having

cancer in his throat and vocal cords could have masked thyroid problems

-- ie: the doctors were too busy removing everything from his neck to

notice the condition of his thyroid. I think I read somewhere once that

Hashi's is commonly carried by men, although they may never exhibit it.

Other than that possible link, I've got no clue where I got GD and H from.

--patti

*~*~*~*~*

Patti Spicer patti@...

" The silence is as important as the noise. What gets left out is

as important as what gets included "

--Sara Lawrence-Lightfoot, author of " I've Known Rivers "

http://www.cyphergirl.com - My photography, cookbooks, thyroid info, and more!

[Guest guest]

Hi Patti,

I have no idea where my graves comes from either...I am the only one in my

family. My mom and aunt were tested, nothing, I have talked with cousins on

my dads side of the family and no history there, and one of the cousins has

done a thorough look into this because of other illness factors in my dads

side of the family.

I honestly hope no one else gets it, especially my daughter or grandsons.

Jody

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[Guest guest]

Hi Patti,

I have no idea where my graves comes from either...I am the only one in my

family. My mom and aunt were tested, nothing, I have talked with cousins on

my dads side of the family and no history there, and one of the cousins has

done a thorough look into this because of other illness factors in my dads

side of the family.

I honestly hope no one else gets it, especially my daughter or grandsons.

Jody

_________________________________________________________________

MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:

http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

[Guest guest]

Hi Patti,

I have no idea where my graves comes from either...I am the only one in my

family. My mom and aunt were tested, nothing, I have talked with cousins on

my dads side of the family and no history there, and one of the cousins has

done a thorough look into this because of other illness factors in my dads

side of the family.

I honestly hope no one else gets it, especially my daughter or grandsons.

Jody

_________________________________________________________________

MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:

http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

[Guest guest]

When I get a raging sinus infection that requires antibiotics, the one I

found that works the best, quickest and keeps actual infections at bay for

1-2 years after having one before getting another is the old sulfa drugs.

They knock the infection out and it stays gone for a long time. Any of the

new antibiotics and it just keeps coming back over and over again.

Jody

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[Guest guest]

I have to agree with you, Jody, except for me it's the cheap old

amoxicillan. (Big time family sulfa allergy). Every time they've tried to

give me some new, latest, greatest antibiotic, I'm either allergic to it or

it doesn't knock out the infection. Whenever I get a sinus infection, I know

that 24 hours after starting that amoxicillan, I'm going to feel better -

love the stuff! My hubby jokes that I'm so frugal, that I'm allergic to all

the expensive antibiotics, and only tolerate the cheap ones!

Why do docs bother trying new stuff when you know the old standbys are going

to work for you?

Re: Re: New poll for graves_support

>When I get a raging sinus infection that requires antibiotics, the one I

>found that works the best, quickest and keeps actual infections at bay for

>1-2 years after having one before getting another is the old sulfa drugs.

>

>They knock the infection out and it stays gone for a long time. Any of the

>new antibiotics and it just keeps coming back over and over again.

>Jody

>

>

>

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>

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intended to replace expert medical care.

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[Guest guest]

I have to agree with you, Jody, except for me it's the cheap old

amoxicillan. (Big time family sulfa allergy). Every time they've tried to

give me some new, latest, greatest antibiotic, I'm either allergic to it or

it doesn't knock out the infection. Whenever I get a sinus infection, I know

that 24 hours after starting that amoxicillan, I'm going to feel better -

love the stuff! My hubby jokes that I'm so frugal, that I'm allergic to all

the expensive antibiotics, and only tolerate the cheap ones!

Why do docs bother trying new stuff when you know the old standbys are going

to work for you?

Re: Re: New poll for graves_support

>When I get a raging sinus infection that requires antibiotics, the one I

>found that works the best, quickest and keeps actual infections at bay for

>1-2 years after having one before getting another is the old sulfa drugs.

>

>They knock the infection out and it stays gone for a long time. Any of the

>new antibiotics and it just keeps coming back over and over again.

>Jody

>

>

>

>_________________________________________________________________

>Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

>

>

>

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intended to replace expert medical care.

>Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments.

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>

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>

[Guest guest]

I have to agree with you, Jody, except for me it's the cheap old

amoxicillan. (Big time family sulfa allergy). Every time they've tried to

give me some new, latest, greatest antibiotic, I'm either allergic to it or

it doesn't knock out the infection. Whenever I get a sinus infection, I know

that 24 hours after starting that amoxicillan, I'm going to feel better -

love the stuff! My hubby jokes that I'm so frugal, that I'm allergic to all

the expensive antibiotics, and only tolerate the cheap ones!

Why do docs bother trying new stuff when you know the old standbys are going

to work for you?

Re: Re: New poll for graves_support

>When I get a raging sinus infection that requires antibiotics, the one I

>found that works the best, quickest and keeps actual infections at bay for

>1-2 years after having one before getting another is the old sulfa drugs.

>

>They knock the infection out and it stays gone for a long time. Any of the

>new antibiotics and it just keeps coming back over and over again.

>Jody

>

>

>

>_________________________________________________________________

>Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

>>>Why do docs bother trying new stuff when you know the old standbys are

>>>going to work for you?<<<

Kickbacks?

Jody

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

>>>Why do docs bother trying new stuff when you know the old standbys are

>>>going to work for you?<<<

Kickbacks?

Jody

_________________________________________________________________

Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

[Guest guest]

Of course with antibiotics the more that you take the less potent they

become. And the more that you take the less your own immune system will be

able to use its own defense system. That is the problem these days...

doctors pump children continually with antibiotics irrespective of whether

they even work against the infection or virus that the child has.. and

gradually the childs own immune system becomes less effective.

[Guest guest]

Of course with antibiotics the more that you take the less potent they

become. And the more that you take the less your own immune system will be

able to use its own defense system. That is the problem these days...

doctors pump children continually with antibiotics irrespective of whether

they even work against the infection or virus that the child has.. and

gradually the childs own immune system becomes less effective.

[Guest guest]

Of course with antibiotics the more that you take the less potent they

become. And the more that you take the less your own immune system will be

able to use its own defense system. That is the problem these days...

doctors pump children continually with antibiotics irrespective of whether

they even work against the infection or virus that the child has.. and

gradually the childs own immune system becomes less effective.

[Guest guest]

As I remember this goes (from the most to least common) O, A, B, AB. When you

mix in the rhesus factor (because of the monkey's in which they first discovered

it), types become rarer. About 20% of the population has rh negative blood.

Its a recessive gene which means both of your parents had to at least carry a

trait for it. Each one gave you a negative trait so you don't carry the rhesus

protein. The cool thing is that it is just about the same percentage all over

the world, regardless of ethnicity. That might indicate that its a very old

trait. And the fact that rhesus monkeys have it as well probably places the

trait in a common ancestor way way back.

The rarest type of all is AB negative. The most desirable from the medical

standpoint is O negative because it lacks A, B, and rhesus antigens and so can

be given to people of all blood types (theoretically). That's why they always

hang the O-neg in the emergency rooms of tv shows.

Laurel

Re: Re: New poll for graves_support

Hi Jody,

My understanding is that O positive is the most common than A positive is

next. I am A positive. Negative blood is less common. If someone knows

differently let me know, I may be wrong about this.

Debbie R.

but then maybe they are the most common blood types, I'm hmmmmm wonder it

could have anything to do with the RH factor I am O negative.

> Jody

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

As I remember this goes (from the most to least common) O, A, B, AB. When you

mix in the rhesus factor (because of the monkey's in which they first discovered

it), types become rarer. About 20% of the population has rh negative blood.

Its a recessive gene which means both of your parents had to at least carry a

trait for it. Each one gave you a negative trait so you don't carry the rhesus

protein. The cool thing is that it is just about the same percentage all over

the world, regardless of ethnicity. That might indicate that its a very old

trait. And the fact that rhesus monkeys have it as well probably places the

trait in a common ancestor way way back.

The rarest type of all is AB negative. The most desirable from the medical

standpoint is O negative because it lacks A, B, and rhesus antigens and so can

be given to people of all blood types (theoretically). That's why they always

hang the O-neg in the emergency rooms of tv shows.

Laurel

Re: Re: New poll for graves_support

Hi Jody,

My understanding is that O positive is the most common than A positive is

next. I am A positive. Negative blood is less common. If someone knows

differently let me know, I may be wrong about this.

Debbie R.

but then maybe they are the most common blood types, I'm hmmmmm wonder it

could have anything to do with the RH factor I am O negative.

> Jody

>

>

>

> _________________________________________________________________

> Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

> <http://mobile.msn.com>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

As I remember this goes (from the most to least common) O, A, B, AB. When you

mix in the rhesus factor (because of the monkey's in which they first discovered

it), types become rarer. About 20% of the population has rh negative blood.

Its a recessive gene which means both of your parents had to at least carry a

trait for it. Each one gave you a negative trait so you don't carry the rhesus

protein. The cool thing is that it is just about the same percentage all over

the world, regardless of ethnicity. That might indicate that its a very old

trait. And the fact that rhesus monkeys have it as well probably places the

trait in a common ancestor way way back.

The rarest type of all is AB negative. The most desirable from the medical

standpoint is O negative because it lacks A, B, and rhesus antigens and so can

be given to people of all blood types (theoretically). That's why they always

hang the O-neg in the emergency rooms of tv shows.

Laurel

Re: Re: New poll for graves_support

Hi Jody,

My understanding is that O positive is the most common than A positive is

next. I am A positive. Negative blood is less common. If someone knows

differently let me know, I may be wrong about this.

Debbie R.

but then maybe they are the most common blood types, I'm hmmmmm wonder it

could have anything to do with the RH factor I am O negative.

> Jody

>

>

>

> _________________________________________________________________

> Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

> <http://mobile.msn.com>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oh Jody -

I'm laughing because you're probably right! It's sad but likely truer than

we want to know.

Re: Re: New poll for graves_support

>Hi ,

>>>>Why do docs bother trying new stuff when you know the old standbys are

>>>>going to work for you?<<<

>

>Kickbacks?

>Jody

>

>

>

>_________________________________________________________________

>Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Add to that the probability rising that they will develop allergies to the

antibiotics they've been given, as occurred with my oldest after countless

amoxycillan doses for childhood ear infections, and the fact that given our

general ignorance people tend to stop the antibiotics once symptoms are gone

thus allowing the bugs to mutate and become " superbugs " that that antibiotic

no longer helps kill...

Terry

> From: katherine_a_rolfe@...

> Reply-To: graves_support

> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 15:02:04 -0500

> To: graves_support

> Subject: RE: Re: New poll for graves_support

>

> Of course with antibiotics the more that you take the less potent they

> become. And the more that you take the less your own immune system will be

> able to use its own defense system. That is the problem these days...

> doctors pump children continually with antibiotics irrespective of whether

> they even work against the infection or virus that the child has.. and

> gradually the childs own immune system becomes less effective.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Add to that the probability rising that they will develop allergies to the

antibiotics they've been given, as occurred with my oldest after countless

amoxycillan doses for childhood ear infections, and the fact that given our

general ignorance people tend to stop the antibiotics once symptoms are gone

thus allowing the bugs to mutate and become " superbugs " that that antibiotic

no longer helps kill...

Terry

> From: katherine_a_rolfe@...

> Reply-To: graves_support

> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 15:02:04 -0500

> To: graves_support

> Subject: RE: Re: New poll for graves_support

>

> Of course with antibiotics the more that you take the less potent they

> become. And the more that you take the less your own immune system will be

> able to use its own defense system. That is the problem these days...

> doctors pump children continually with antibiotics irrespective of whether

> they even work against the infection or virus that the child has.. and

> gradually the childs own immune system becomes less effective.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Add to that the probability rising that they will develop allergies to the

antibiotics they've been given, as occurred with my oldest after countless

amoxycillan doses for childhood ear infections, and the fact that given our

general ignorance people tend to stop the antibiotics once symptoms are gone

thus allowing the bugs to mutate and become " superbugs " that that antibiotic

no longer helps kill...

Terry

> From: katherine_a_rolfe@...

> Reply-To: graves_support

> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 15:02:04 -0500

> To: graves_support

> Subject: RE: Re: New poll for graves_support

>

> Of course with antibiotics the more that you take the less potent they

> become. And the more that you take the less your own immune system will be

> able to use its own defense system. That is the problem these days...

> doctors pump children continually with antibiotics irrespective of whether

> they even work against the infection or virus that the child has.. and

> gradually the childs own immune system becomes less effective.

>

>

>

>