Guest guest Posted August 18, 2001 Report Share Posted August 18, 2001 Deborah wrote: > > ...that will only get worse? This is the first time I've hear > someone say this. Seems I've read in the literature it usually does > not get worse. I think most people on these boards will say it does get worse as time goes by. For some people it doesn't get any worse. Another thing to remember is that most of the people on these boards aren't doing well, they're looking for support, help with their problems, looking for answers, as a general rule, they aren't having an easy time with their illnesses (as if anyone with these illnesses has an " easy " time). I have a friend who has had fibro for years and years. She has basically stayed at the same level for the whole time. She is still working a 40 hour week. She isn't on any support group. I've only had the full fibro symptoms for about a year, although I've had some symptoms for several years. I've gotten worse. I'm on the boards. See what I'm trying to say? A lot of the people who may be staying the same may not feel the need for a support group, so you don't see those people, instead you see those of us who have gotten worse and feel the need for a support group. Darcy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2001 Report Share Posted August 21, 2001 I think everyone should have hope. I got better. I've had it 27 years. The first 20 years were horrible, but the last 7 have been great. My doctor told me a long time ago that he thought eventually my body would say, enough is enough, and I guess it did. I'm still working (31 years), I go boating, fishing, and I'm happy to be here. Joanne --- L G wrote: > I have only heard of maybe 5 people out of hundreds > that have gotten better from this disease. It is > only > logical as one gets older and the body gets weaker > from age, that the symptoms will get worse. I have > had CFS/Fibro since I was 17 and when I was very > young, I had many remissions but since the age of > 38, > I have been in a 12 year relapse that has still not > ended and keeps getting worse. I take excellent > care > of myself and have good doctors but I can see the > progressive deterioration especially after I went > through Menopause. So, it's better not to give > anyone false hope although I guess every now and > then > a miracle may happen. > -Lynne > > --- ee Meade wrote: > > > ...that will only get worse? This is the first > > time I've hear > > > someone say this. Seems I've read in the > > literature it usually does > > > not get worse. > > > > Deb, > > > > I've heard the same thing, and I think others on > > this list have been told > > this by their doctors. > > > > I do not believe there has been enough research > done > > on this illness to > > determine whether or not it gets worse with > > time--the diagnosis itself has > > only existed for what? about 10 years? > > > > Logic tells me that it must get worse. I mean, > > after years of not getting > > restful, restorative sleep, the body will > > progressively lose its ability to > > compensate. After years of continual muscle > > contractions, the muscles > > themselves might become distorted, and they > > certainly will distort the > > skeletal system, don't you think? > > > > All I know is, my symptoms have gotten worse over > > the years, although I > > still hold out hope for relief! > > > > Hugs, > > ee > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2001 Report Share Posted August 23, 2001 Dearest Joanne: I am so happy that you have been able to work all these years but that tells me that your case is not that severe. There are many different levels of severity; like mine for instance. I could never hold a job for too long because I would get too sick and miss too many days. Are you sure you have FMS/CFS? I never said anyone should not have hope. I said that people should not have false hope. Every one is different. God Bless you. -Lynne --- Joanne McNabb wrote: > I think everyone should have hope. I got better. > I've had it 27 years. The first 20 years were > horrible, but the last 7 have been great. My doctor > told me a long time ago that he thought eventually > my > body would say, enough is enough, and I guess it > did. > I'm still working (31 years), I go boating, fishing, > and I'm happy to be here. > > Joanne > --- L G wrote: > > I have only heard of maybe 5 people out of > hundreds > > that have gotten better from this disease. It is > > only > > logical as one gets older and the body gets weaker > > from age, that the symptoms will get worse. I > have > > had CFS/Fibro since I was 17 and when I was very > > young, I had many remissions but since the age of > > 38, > > I have been in a 12 year relapse that has still > not > > ended and keeps getting worse. I take excellent > > care > > of myself and have good doctors but I can see the > > progressive deterioration especially after I went > > through Menopause. So, it's better not to give > > anyone false hope although I guess every now and > > then > > a miracle may happen. > > -Lynne > > > > --- ee Meade wrote: > > > > ...that will only get worse? This is the > first > > > time I've hear > > > > someone say this. Seems I've read in the > > > literature it usually does > > > > not get worse. > > > > > > Deb, > > > > > > I've heard the same thing, and I think others on > > > this list have been told > > > this by their doctors. > > > > > > I do not believe there has been enough research > > done > > > on this illness to > > > determine whether or not it gets worse with > > > time--the diagnosis itself has > > > only existed for what? about 10 years? > > > > > > Logic tells me that it must get worse. I mean, > > > after years of not getting > > > restful, restorative sleep, the body will > > > progressively lose its ability to > > > compensate. After years of continual muscle > > > contractions, the muscles > > > themselves might become distorted, and they > > > certainly will distort the > > > skeletal system, don't you think? > > > > > > All I know is, my symptoms have gotten worse > over > > > the years, although I > > > still hold out hope for relief! > > > > > > Hugs, > > > ee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2001 Report Share Posted August 23, 2001 Dearest Joanne: I am so happy that you have been able to work all these years but that tells me that your case is not that severe. There are many different levels of severity; like mine for instance. I could never hold a job for too long because I would get too sick and miss too many days. Are you sure you have FMS/CFS? I never said anyone should not have hope. I said that people should not have false hope. Every one is different. God Bless you. -Lynne --- Joanne McNabb wrote: > I think everyone should have hope. I got better. > I've had it 27 years. The first 20 years were > horrible, but the last 7 have been great. My doctor > told me a long time ago that he thought eventually > my > body would say, enough is enough, and I guess it > did. > I'm still working (31 years), I go boating, fishing, > and I'm happy to be here. > > Joanne > --- L G wrote: > > I have only heard of maybe 5 people out of > hundreds > > that have gotten better from this disease. It is > > only > > logical as one gets older and the body gets weaker > > from age, that the symptoms will get worse. I > have > > had CFS/Fibro since I was 17 and when I was very > > young, I had many remissions but since the age of > > 38, > > I have been in a 12 year relapse that has still > not > > ended and keeps getting worse. I take excellent > > care > > of myself and have good doctors but I can see the > > progressive deterioration especially after I went > > through Menopause. So, it's better not to give > > anyone false hope although I guess every now and > > then > > a miracle may happen. > > -Lynne > > > > --- ee Meade wrote: > > > > ...that will only get worse? This is the > first > > > time I've hear > > > > someone say this. Seems I've read in the > > > literature it usually does > > > > not get worse. > > > > > > Deb, > > > > > > I've heard the same thing, and I think others on > > > this list have been told > > > this by their doctors. > > > > > > I do not believe there has been enough research > > done > > > on this illness to > > > determine whether or not it gets worse with > > > time--the diagnosis itself has > > > only existed for what? about 10 years? > > > > > > Logic tells me that it must get worse. I mean, > > > after years of not getting > > > restful, restorative sleep, the body will > > > progressively lose its ability to > > > compensate. After years of continual muscle > > > contractions, the muscles > > > themselves might become distorted, and they > > > certainly will distort the > > > skeletal system, don't you think? > > > > > > All I know is, my symptoms have gotten worse > over > > > the years, although I > > > still hold out hope for relief! > > > > > > Hugs, > > > ee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2001 Report Share Posted August 23, 2001 Dearest Joanne: I am so happy that you have been able to work all these years but that tells me that your case is not that severe. There are many different levels of severity; like mine for instance. I could never hold a job for too long because I would get too sick and miss too many days. Are you sure you have FMS/CFS? I never said anyone should not have hope. I said that people should not have false hope. Every one is different. God Bless you. -Lynne --- Joanne McNabb wrote: > I think everyone should have hope. I got better. > I've had it 27 years. The first 20 years were > horrible, but the last 7 have been great. My doctor > told me a long time ago that he thought eventually > my > body would say, enough is enough, and I guess it > did. > I'm still working (31 years), I go boating, fishing, > and I'm happy to be here. > > Joanne > --- L G wrote: > > I have only heard of maybe 5 people out of > hundreds > > that have gotten better from this disease. It is > > only > > logical as one gets older and the body gets weaker > > from age, that the symptoms will get worse. I > have > > had CFS/Fibro since I was 17 and when I was very > > young, I had many remissions but since the age of > > 38, > > I have been in a 12 year relapse that has still > not > > ended and keeps getting worse. I take excellent > > care > > of myself and have good doctors but I can see the > > progressive deterioration especially after I went > > through Menopause. So, it's better not to give > > anyone false hope although I guess every now and > > then > > a miracle may happen. > > -Lynne > > > > --- ee Meade wrote: > > > > ...that will only get worse? This is the > first > > > time I've hear > > > > someone say this. Seems I've read in the > > > literature it usually does > > > > not get worse. > > > > > > Deb, > > > > > > I've heard the same thing, and I think others on > > > this list have been told > > > this by their doctors. > > > > > > I do not believe there has been enough research > > done > > > on this illness to > > > determine whether or not it gets worse with > > > time--the diagnosis itself has > > > only existed for what? about 10 years? > > > > > > Logic tells me that it must get worse. I mean, > > > after years of not getting > > > restful, restorative sleep, the body will > > > progressively lose its ability to > > > compensate. After years of continual muscle > > > contractions, the muscles > > > themselves might become distorted, and they > > > certainly will distort the > > > skeletal system, don't you think? > > > > > > All I know is, my symptoms have gotten worse > over > > > the years, although I > > > still hold out hope for relief! > > > > > > Hugs, > > > ee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2001 Report Share Posted August 24, 2001 Hi Lynne, Oh, yes, I'm sure I have fibro. I wouldn't relive those days. I would rather be in labor for the rest of my life than feel that pain. I hurt so badly at one time that I couldn't even wear my glasses. Every muscle in my body was in spasm, and my body was burning all over. My neck felt like a rope burn. I feel like I got cheated out of the 20's and 30's because I hurt so bad. I had two kids, and my husband was an alcoholic, and I had to work. I would go in the ladies room and cry from the pain. I would have to lie down intermittently throughout the day. I was lucky that I worked for the County and they couldn't fire me. I'll tell you another thing. I could not do it again. At age 49, I just couldn't take it. I'd probably swallow a bottle of pills if I got that bad again. The worst part was no one ever heard of it in 1974, and I didn't have all you wonderful people to help me. There was no one for me to talk to. I begged my doctor once to put me in the mental hospital because I was afraid I would kill myself, but he wouldn't do it. Oh, yes, I know how awful you feel, and I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. I don't know why I got better. I really don't, but I'm so grateful to God that he took it away. Well, it's not gone, but it's so much more manageable than I ever would have thought. Joanne --- L G wrote: > Dearest Joanne: > I am so happy that you have been able to work all > these years but that tells me that your case is not > that severe. There are many different levels of > severity; like mine for instance. I could never > hold > a job for too long because I would get too sick and > miss too many days. Are you sure you have FMS/CFS? > I > never said anyone should not have hope. I said that > people should not have false hope. Every one is > different. God Bless you. > -Lynne > > --- Joanne McNabb wrote: > > I think everyone should have hope. I got better. > > I've had it 27 years. The first 20 years were > > horrible, but the last 7 have been great. My > doctor > > told me a long time ago that he thought eventually > > my > > body would say, enough is enough, and I guess it > > did. > > I'm still working (31 years), I go boating, > fishing, > > and I'm happy to be here. > > > > Joanne > > --- L G wrote: > > > I have only heard of maybe 5 people out of > > hundreds > > > that have gotten better from this disease. It > is > > > only > > > logical as one gets older and the body gets > weaker > > > from age, that the symptoms will get worse. I > > have > > > had CFS/Fibro since I was 17 and when I was very > > > young, I had many remissions but since the age > of > > > 38, > > > I have been in a 12 year relapse that has still > > not > > > ended and keeps getting worse. I take excellent > > > care > > > of myself and have good doctors but I can see > the > > > progressive deterioration especially after I > went > > > through Menopause. So, it's better not to give > > > anyone false hope although I guess every now and > > > then > > > a miracle may happen. > > > -Lynne > > > > > > --- ee Meade wrote: > > > > > ...that will only get worse? This is the > > first > > > > time I've hear > > > > > someone say this. Seems I've read in the > > > > literature it usually does > > > > > not get worse. > > > > > > > > Deb, > > > > > > > > I've heard the same thing, and I think others > on > > > > this list have been told > > > > this by their doctors. > > > > > > > > I do not believe there has been enough > research > > > done > > > > on this illness to > > > > determine whether or not it gets worse with > > > > time--the diagnosis itself has > > > > only existed for what? about 10 years? > > > > > > > > Logic tells me that it must get worse. I > mean, > > > > after years of not getting > > > > restful, restorative sleep, the body will > > > > progressively lose its ability to > > > > compensate. After years of continual muscle > > > > contractions, the muscles > > > > themselves might become distorted, and they > > > > certainly will distort the > > > > skeletal system, don't you think? > > > > > > > > All I know is, my symptoms have gotten worse > > over > > > > the years, although I > > > > still hold out hope for relief! > > > > > > > > Hugs, > > > > ee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2001 Report Share Posted August 24, 2001 Great news for you Joanne. I am glad you are one of the lucky ones to be in remission of this illness. I hope you stay that way. Enjoy your life as much as you can, then if things change you will have no regrets. God Bless Lorraine UK --- Joanne Mc Nabb wrote: <HR> <html><body> <tt> Hi Lynne,<BR> <BR> Oh, yes, I'm sure I have fibro. I wouldn't relive<BR> those days. I would rather be in labor for the rest<BR> of my life than feel that pain. I hurt so badly at<BR> one time that I couldn't even wear my glasses. Every<BR> muscle in my body was in spasm, and my body was<BR> burning all over. My neck felt like a rope burn. I<BR> feel like I got cheated out of the 20's and 30's<BR> because I hurt so bad. I had two kids, and my husband<BR> was an alcoholic, and I had to work. I would go in<BR> the ladies room and cry from the pain. I would have<BR> to lie down intermittently throughout the day. I was<BR> lucky that I worked for the County and they couldn't<BR> fire me. I'll tell you another thing. I could not do<BR> it again. At age 49, I just couldn't take it. I'd<BR> probably swallow a bottle of pills if I got that bad<BR> again. The worst part was no one ever heard of it in<BR> 1974, and I didn't have all you wonderful people to<BR> help me. There was no one for me to talk to. I<BR> begged my doctor once to put me in the mental hospital<BR> because I was afraid I would kill myself, but he<BR> wouldn't do it. Oh, yes, I know how awful you feel,<BR> and I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. I don't<BR> know why I got better. I really don't, but I'm so<BR> grateful to God that he took it away. Well, it's not<BR> gone, but it's so much more manageable than I ever<BR> would have thought.<BR> <BR> Joanne<BR> --- L G wrote:<BR> > Dearest Joanne:<BR> > I am so happy that you have been able to work all<BR> > these years but that tells me that your case is not<BR> > that severe. There are many different levels of<BR> > severity; like mine for instance. I could never<BR> > hold<BR> > a job for too long because I would get too sick and<BR> > miss too many days. Are you sure you have FMS/CFS?<BR> > I<BR> > never said anyone should not have hope. I said that<BR> > people should not have false hope. Every one is<BR> > different. God Bless you.<BR> > -Lynne<BR> > <BR> > --- Joanne McNabb wrote:<BR> > > I think everyone should have hope. I got better. <BR> > > I've had it 27 years. The first 20 years were<BR> > > horrible, but the last 7 have been great. My<BR> > doctor<BR> > > told me a long time ago that he thought eventually<BR> > > my<BR> > > body would say, enough is enough, and I guess it<BR> > > did. <BR> > > I'm still working (31 years), I go boating,<BR> > fishing,<BR> > > and I'm happy to be here.<BR> > > <BR> > > Joanne<BR> > > --- L G wrote:<BR> > > > I have only heard of maybe 5 people out of<BR> > > hundreds<BR> > > > that have gotten better from this disease. It<BR> > is<BR> > > > only<BR> > > > logical as one gets older and the body gets<BR> > weaker<BR> > > > from age, that the symptoms will get worse. I<BR> > > have<BR> > > > had CFS/Fibro since I was 17 and when I was very<BR> > > > young, I had many remissions but since the age<BR> > of<BR> > > > 38,<BR> > > > I have been in a 12 year relapse that has still<BR> > > not<BR> > > > ended and keeps getting worse. I take excellent<BR> > > > care<BR> > > > of myself and have good doctors but I can see<BR> > the<BR> > > > progressive deterioration especially after I<BR> > went<BR> > > > through Menopause.  So, it's better not to give<BR> > > > anyone false hope although I guess every now and<BR> > > > then<BR> > > > a miracle may happen. <BR> > > > -Lynne<BR> > > > <BR> > > > --- ee Meade wrote:<BR> > > > > > ...that will only get worse? This is the<BR> > > first<BR> > > > > time I've hear<BR> > > > > > someone say this. Seems I've read in the<BR> > > > > literature it usually does<BR> > > > > > not get worse.<BR> > > > > <BR> > > > > Deb,<BR> > > > > <BR> > > > > I've heard the same thing, and I think others<BR> > on<BR> > > > > this list have been told<BR> > > > > this by their doctors.<BR> > > > > <BR> > > > > I do not believe there has been enough<BR> > research<BR> > > > done<BR> > > > > on this illness to<BR> > > > > determine whether or not it gets worse with<BR> > > > > time--the diagnosis itself has<BR> > > > > only existed for what? about 10 years?<BR> > > > > <BR> > > > > Logic tells me that it must get worse. I<BR> > mean,<BR> > > > > after years of not getting<BR> > > > > restful, restorative sleep, the body will<BR> > > > > progressively lose its ability to<BR> > > > > compensate. After years of continual muscle<BR> > > > > contractions, the muscles<BR> > > > > themselves might become distorted, and they<BR> > > > > certainly will distort the<BR> > > > > skeletal system, don't you think?<BR> > > > > <BR> > > > > All I know is, my symptoms have gotten worse<BR> > > over<BR> > > > > the years, although I<BR> > > > > still hold out hope for relief!<BR> > > > > <BR> > > > > Hugs,<BR> > > > > ee<BR> > > > > <BR> > > > > <BR> > > > > <BR> > > > <BR> > > > <BR> > > ><BR> > __________________________________________________<BR> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2001 Report Share Posted August 24, 2001 Thank you, Lorraine. Sometimes I have to remember to treasure each day. The only down side is I developed interstitial cystitis 4-1/2 years ago, so I'm not really pain free. But, as I try to explain to the IC group, IC doesn't compare in pain to fibro. With IC, your bladder and urethra burn. With fibro, you hurt from the top of your head to the tips of your toes. Joanne --- Lorraine Bowen wrote: > Great news for you Joanne. I am glad you are one of > the lucky ones to be in remission of this illness. I > hope you stay that way. Enjoy your life as much as > you > can, then if things change you will have no regrets. > > God Bless > > Lorraine UK > > --- Joanne Mc Nabb wrote: > <HR> > <html><body> > <tt> > Hi Lynne,<BR> > <BR> > Oh, yes, I'm sure I have fibro. I wouldn't > relive<BR> > those days. I would rather be in labor for the > rest<BR> > of my life than feel that pain. I hurt so badly > at<BR> > one time that I couldn't even wear my glasses. > Every<BR> > muscle in my body was in spasm, and my body was<BR> > burning all over. My neck felt like a rope burn. > I<BR> > feel like I got cheated out of the 20's and 30's<BR> > because I hurt so bad. I had two kids, and my > husband<BR> > was an alcoholic, and I had to work. I would go > in<BR> > the ladies room and cry from the pain. I would > have<BR> > to lie down intermittently throughout the day. I > was<BR> > lucky that I worked for the County and they > couldn't<BR> > fire me. I'll tell you another thing. I could not > do<BR> > it again. At age 49, I just couldn't take it. > I'd<BR> > probably swallow a bottle of pills if I got that > bad<BR> > again. The worst part was no one ever heard of it > in<BR> > 1974, and I didn't have all you wonderful people > to<BR> > help me. There was no one for me to talk to. I<BR> > begged my doctor once to put me in the mental > hospital<BR> > because I was afraid I would kill myself, but he<BR> > wouldn't do it. Oh, yes, I know how awful you > feel,<BR> > and I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. I > don't<BR> > know why I got better. I really don't, but I'm > so<BR> > grateful to God that he took it away. Well, it's > not<BR> > gone, but it's so much more manageable than I > ever<BR> > would have thought.<BR> > <BR> > Joanne<BR> > --- L G wrote:<BR> > > Dearest Joanne:<BR> > > I am so happy that you have been able to work > all<BR> > > these years but that tells me that your case is > not<BR> > > that severe. There are many different levels > of<BR> > > severity; like mine for instance. I could > never<BR> > > hold<BR> > > a job for too long because I would get too sick > and<BR> > > miss too many days. Are you sure you have > FMS/CFS?<BR> > > I<BR> > > never said anyone should not have hope. I said > that<BR> > > people should not have false hope. Every one > is<BR> > > different. God Bless you.<BR> > > -Lynne<BR> > > <BR> > > --- Joanne McNabb > wrote:<BR> > > > I think everyone should have hope. I got > better. > <BR> > > > I've had it 27 years. The first 20 years > were<BR> > > > horrible, but the last 7 have been great. > My<BR> > > doctor<BR> > > > told me a long time ago that he thought > eventually<BR> > > > my<BR> > > > body would say, enough is enough, and I guess > it<BR> > > > did. <BR> > > > I'm still working (31 years), I go boating,<BR> > > fishing,<BR> > > > and I'm happy to be here.<BR> > > > <BR> > > > Joanne<BR> > > > --- L G wrote:<BR> > > > > I have only heard of maybe 5 people out of<BR> > > > hundreds<BR> > > > > that have gotten better from this disease. > It<BR> > > is<BR> > > > > only<BR> > > > > logical as one gets older and the body > gets<BR> > > weaker<BR> > > > > from age, that the symptoms will get worse. > I<BR> > > > have<BR> > > > > had CFS/Fibro since I was 17 and when I was > very<BR> > > > > young, I had many remissions but since the > age<BR> > > of<BR> > > > > 38,<BR> > > > > I have been in a 12 year relapse that has > still<BR> > > > not<BR> > > > > ended and keeps getting worse. I take > excellent<BR> > > > > care<BR> > > > > of myself and have good doctors but I can > see<BR> > > the<BR> > > > > progressive deterioration especially after > I<BR> > > went<BR> > > > > through Menopause.  So, it's better not to > give<BR> > > > > anyone false hope although I guess every now > and<BR> > > > > then<BR> > > > > a miracle may happen. <BR> > > > > -Lynne<BR> > > > > <BR> > > > > --- ee Meade > wrote:<BR> > > > > > > ...that will only get worse? This is > the<BR> > > > first<BR> > > > > > time I've hear<BR> > > > > > > someone say this. Seems I've read in > the<BR> > > > > > literature it usually does<BR> > > > > > > not get worse.<BR> > > > > > <BR> > > > > > Deb,<BR> > > > > > <BR> > > > > > I've heard the same thing, and I think > others<BR> > > on<BR> > > > > > this list have been told<BR> > > > > > this by their doctors.<BR> > > > > > <BR> > > > > > I do not believe there has been enough<BR> > > research<BR> > > > > done<BR> > > > > > on this illness to<BR> > > > > > determine whether or not it gets worse > with<BR> > > > > > time--the diagnosis itself has<BR> > > > > > only existed for what? about 10 years?<BR> > > > > > <BR> > > > > > Logic tells me that it must get worse. > I<BR> > > mean,<BR> > > > > > after years of not getting<BR> > > > > > restful, restorative sleep, the body > will<BR> > > > > > progressively lose its ability to<BR> > > > > > compensate. After years of continual > muscle<BR> > > > > > contractions, the muscles<BR> > > > > > themselves might become distorted, and > they<BR> > > > > > certainly will distort the<BR> > > > > > skeletal system, don't you think?<BR> > > > > > <BR> > > > > > All I know is, my symptoms have gotten > worse<BR> > > > over<BR> > > > > > the years, although I<BR> > > > > > still hold out hope for relief!<BR> > > > > > <BR> > > > > > Hugs,<BR> > > > > > ee<BR> > > > > > <BR> > > > > > <BR> > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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