Guest guest Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 It was my understanding when reading Andy's books that it is pretty normal to have a few toxic metals show up in the yellow zone...think I read that in the beginning of the hair analysis book... ~IInga > Aluminum being in the high yellow range is odd since I have not had > any known exposures for years. (no aluminum baking powder, canned > foods/drinks, deodorants, cooking or storing containers, etc.) Why > would my body levels stay elevated? > > The arsenic in the low yellow range is odd too. Pesticides are the > main source and I've been eating organic for a long time and never go > near buildings that have been exterminated because I get > neurologically impaired. Again, why would body levels stay elevated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 > I have been following the group in the background, read Andy Cutler's books on chelation and hair analysis, and finally gotten a DDI hair test. I posted it below and would appreciate commentary. I wish I knew how to send it as a link because it is easier to read in graph form. Hi , Email me the graph (dean@...) and I'll put it up here if you like for all to see. http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/healingnetwork/hairtest.html It makes life a lot easier to actually see it in colour and you can refer back to it as you chelate if you like. Dean Hair Test Results > Hello Group, > > I have been following the group in the background, read Andy Cutler's books on chelation and hair analysis, and finally gotten a DDI hair test. I posted it below and would appreciate commentary. I wish I knew how to send it as a link because it is easier to read in graph form. > > It does not meet counting rules. That may be because over the past 15 years of being severely chemically sensitive, I've done most every form of detoxification and supplementation, which has balanced out an otherwise unbalanced system. My HG exposures are also long past, with amalgams removed at 29 years old (I'm now 44). > > I'm suspicious of a lurking mercury problem, though, because of past history (vaccinations, amalgams, playing with broken thermometer mercury as a child, working in Biochemistry labs) and present health status (MCS). My thought is to go ahead with chelation despite the hair results. I've done a few rounds and always feel better ON round than OFF. Is that an indication of metal toxicity? > > I put a few specific questions after the test results and would appreciate if anyone has input on them. > > POTENTIALLY TOXIC ELEMENTS > element result ref range color > ============================================= > aluminum 16 < 7.0 yellow > antimony 0.039 < 0.050 green > arsenic 0.067 < 0.060 yellow > beryllium < 0.01 < 0.020 no-line > bismuth 0.019 < 0.10 green > cadmium 0.051 < 0.10 green > lead 1.0 < 1.0 green/yellow edge > mercury 0.10 < 1.1 green > platinum < 0.003 < 0.005 no-line > thallium < 0.001 < 0.010 no-line > thorium 0.001 < 0.005 green > uranium 0.002 < 0.060 green > nickel 0.07 < o.40 green > silver 0.11 < 0.15 green > tin 0.12 < 0.30 green > titanium 0.53 < 1.0 green > > ESSENTIAL AND OTHER ELEMENTS > element result ref range color under/over 50% > ============================================================ > Calcium 73 300 - 1200 red below > Magnesium 7 35 - 120 red below > Sodium 32 12 - 90 green below > Potassium 13 8 - 38 green below > Copper 21 12 - 35 green above > Zinc 130 140 - 220 yellow below > Manganese 0.35 0.15 - 0.65 green above > Chromium 0.65 0.20 - 0.40 yellow above > Vanadium 0.82 0.018 - 0.065 yellow above > Molybdenum 0.054 0.028 - 0.056 green above > Boron 0.55 0.30 - 2.0 green below > Iodine 0.48 0.25 - 1.3 green below > Lithium 0.008 0.007 - 0.023 green below > Phosphorus 163 160 - 250 green below > Selenium 1.1 0.95 - 1.7 green below > Strontium 0.21 0.50 - 7.6 yellow below > Sulfur 49100 44500 - 52000 green above > Barium 0.29 0.26 - 3.0 green below > Cobalt 0.007 0.013 - 0.050 red below > Iron 18 5.4 - 14 yellow above > Germanium 0.032 0.045 - 0.065 yellow below > Rubidium 0.027 0.007 - 0.096 white above > Zirconium 0.027 0.020 - 0.42 green below > > > > Aluminum being in the high yellow range is odd since I have not had any known exposures for years. (no aluminum baking powder, canned foods/drinks, deodorants, cooking or storing containers, etc.) Why would my body levels stay elevated? > > The arsenic in the low yellow range is odd too. Pesticides are the main source and I've been eating organic for a long time and never go near buildings that have been exterminated because I get neurologically impaired. Again, why would body levels stay elevated? > > The red zone low calcium and magnesium is striking. I take supplementary calcium (1000 mg/day) and magnesium (500 mg/ day). I rarely eat diary's. It seems like if it were an assimilation problem, other minerals would be generally low. Any ideas what would cause low CA/MG? I do exercise intensively (cycling 170 miles a week) and maybe that has an effect on what is left to show up in the hair. > > Is it a good idea to supplement for elements that show up in the low yellow or red zone (zinc, strontium, cobalt, germanium)? > > I have been following the group posts with interest and would appreciate any input you might have on my particular case. > > Thanks > > H. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 > I have been following the group in the background, read Andy Cutler's books on chelation and hair analysis, and finally gotten a DDI hair test. I posted it below and would appreciate commentary. I wish I knew how to send it as a link because it is easier to read in graph form. Hi , Email me the graph (dean@...) and I'll put it up here if you like for all to see. http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/healingnetwork/hairtest.html It makes life a lot easier to actually see it in colour and you can refer back to it as you chelate if you like. Dean Hair Test Results > Hello Group, > > I have been following the group in the background, read Andy Cutler's books on chelation and hair analysis, and finally gotten a DDI hair test. I posted it below and would appreciate commentary. I wish I knew how to send it as a link because it is easier to read in graph form. > > It does not meet counting rules. That may be because over the past 15 years of being severely chemically sensitive, I've done most every form of detoxification and supplementation, which has balanced out an otherwise unbalanced system. My HG exposures are also long past, with amalgams removed at 29 years old (I'm now 44). > > I'm suspicious of a lurking mercury problem, though, because of past history (vaccinations, amalgams, playing with broken thermometer mercury as a child, working in Biochemistry labs) and present health status (MCS). My thought is to go ahead with chelation despite the hair results. I've done a few rounds and always feel better ON round than OFF. Is that an indication of metal toxicity? > > I put a few specific questions after the test results and would appreciate if anyone has input on them. > > POTENTIALLY TOXIC ELEMENTS > element result ref range color > ============================================= > aluminum 16 < 7.0 yellow > antimony 0.039 < 0.050 green > arsenic 0.067 < 0.060 yellow > beryllium < 0.01 < 0.020 no-line > bismuth 0.019 < 0.10 green > cadmium 0.051 < 0.10 green > lead 1.0 < 1.0 green/yellow edge > mercury 0.10 < 1.1 green > platinum < 0.003 < 0.005 no-line > thallium < 0.001 < 0.010 no-line > thorium 0.001 < 0.005 green > uranium 0.002 < 0.060 green > nickel 0.07 < o.40 green > silver 0.11 < 0.15 green > tin 0.12 < 0.30 green > titanium 0.53 < 1.0 green > > ESSENTIAL AND OTHER ELEMENTS > element result ref range color under/over 50% > ============================================================ > Calcium 73 300 - 1200 red below > Magnesium 7 35 - 120 red below > Sodium 32 12 - 90 green below > Potassium 13 8 - 38 green below > Copper 21 12 - 35 green above > Zinc 130 140 - 220 yellow below > Manganese 0.35 0.15 - 0.65 green above > Chromium 0.65 0.20 - 0.40 yellow above > Vanadium 0.82 0.018 - 0.065 yellow above > Molybdenum 0.054 0.028 - 0.056 green above > Boron 0.55 0.30 - 2.0 green below > Iodine 0.48 0.25 - 1.3 green below > Lithium 0.008 0.007 - 0.023 green below > Phosphorus 163 160 - 250 green below > Selenium 1.1 0.95 - 1.7 green below > Strontium 0.21 0.50 - 7.6 yellow below > Sulfur 49100 44500 - 52000 green above > Barium 0.29 0.26 - 3.0 green below > Cobalt 0.007 0.013 - 0.050 red below > Iron 18 5.4 - 14 yellow above > Germanium 0.032 0.045 - 0.065 yellow below > Rubidium 0.027 0.007 - 0.096 white above > Zirconium 0.027 0.020 - 0.42 green below > > > > Aluminum being in the high yellow range is odd since I have not had any known exposures for years. (no aluminum baking powder, canned foods/drinks, deodorants, cooking or storing containers, etc.) Why would my body levels stay elevated? > > The arsenic in the low yellow range is odd too. Pesticides are the main source and I've been eating organic for a long time and never go near buildings that have been exterminated because I get neurologically impaired. Again, why would body levels stay elevated? > > The red zone low calcium and magnesium is striking. I take supplementary calcium (1000 mg/day) and magnesium (500 mg/ day). I rarely eat diary's. It seems like if it were an assimilation problem, other minerals would be generally low. Any ideas what would cause low CA/MG? I do exercise intensively (cycling 170 miles a week) and maybe that has an effect on what is left to show up in the hair. > > Is it a good idea to supplement for elements that show up in the low yellow or red zone (zinc, strontium, cobalt, germanium)? > > I have been following the group posts with interest and would appreciate any input you might have on my particular case. > > Thanks > > H. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 > I have been following the group in the background, read Andy Cutler's books on chelation and hair analysis, and finally gotten a DDI hair test. I posted it below and would appreciate commentary. I wish I knew how to send it as a link because it is easier to read in graph form. Hi , Email me the graph (dean@...) and I'll put it up here if you like for all to see. http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/healingnetwork/hairtest.html It makes life a lot easier to actually see it in colour and you can refer back to it as you chelate if you like. Dean Hair Test Results > Hello Group, > > I have been following the group in the background, read Andy Cutler's books on chelation and hair analysis, and finally gotten a DDI hair test. I posted it below and would appreciate commentary. I wish I knew how to send it as a link because it is easier to read in graph form. > > It does not meet counting rules. That may be because over the past 15 years of being severely chemically sensitive, I've done most every form of detoxification and supplementation, which has balanced out an otherwise unbalanced system. My HG exposures are also long past, with amalgams removed at 29 years old (I'm now 44). > > I'm suspicious of a lurking mercury problem, though, because of past history (vaccinations, amalgams, playing with broken thermometer mercury as a child, working in Biochemistry labs) and present health status (MCS). My thought is to go ahead with chelation despite the hair results. I've done a few rounds and always feel better ON round than OFF. Is that an indication of metal toxicity? > > I put a few specific questions after the test results and would appreciate if anyone has input on them. > > POTENTIALLY TOXIC ELEMENTS > element result ref range color > ============================================= > aluminum 16 < 7.0 yellow > antimony 0.039 < 0.050 green > arsenic 0.067 < 0.060 yellow > beryllium < 0.01 < 0.020 no-line > bismuth 0.019 < 0.10 green > cadmium 0.051 < 0.10 green > lead 1.0 < 1.0 green/yellow edge > mercury 0.10 < 1.1 green > platinum < 0.003 < 0.005 no-line > thallium < 0.001 < 0.010 no-line > thorium 0.001 < 0.005 green > uranium 0.002 < 0.060 green > nickel 0.07 < o.40 green > silver 0.11 < 0.15 green > tin 0.12 < 0.30 green > titanium 0.53 < 1.0 green > > ESSENTIAL AND OTHER ELEMENTS > element result ref range color under/over 50% > ============================================================ > Calcium 73 300 - 1200 red below > Magnesium 7 35 - 120 red below > Sodium 32 12 - 90 green below > Potassium 13 8 - 38 green below > Copper 21 12 - 35 green above > Zinc 130 140 - 220 yellow below > Manganese 0.35 0.15 - 0.65 green above > Chromium 0.65 0.20 - 0.40 yellow above > Vanadium 0.82 0.018 - 0.065 yellow above > Molybdenum 0.054 0.028 - 0.056 green above > Boron 0.55 0.30 - 2.0 green below > Iodine 0.48 0.25 - 1.3 green below > Lithium 0.008 0.007 - 0.023 green below > Phosphorus 163 160 - 250 green below > Selenium 1.1 0.95 - 1.7 green below > Strontium 0.21 0.50 - 7.6 yellow below > Sulfur 49100 44500 - 52000 green above > Barium 0.29 0.26 - 3.0 green below > Cobalt 0.007 0.013 - 0.050 red below > Iron 18 5.4 - 14 yellow above > Germanium 0.032 0.045 - 0.065 yellow below > Rubidium 0.027 0.007 - 0.096 white above > Zirconium 0.027 0.020 - 0.42 green below > > > > Aluminum being in the high yellow range is odd since I have not had any known exposures for years. (no aluminum baking powder, canned foods/drinks, deodorants, cooking or storing containers, etc.) Why would my body levels stay elevated? > > The arsenic in the low yellow range is odd too. Pesticides are the main source and I've been eating organic for a long time and never go near buildings that have been exterminated because I get neurologically impaired. Again, why would body levels stay elevated? > > The red zone low calcium and magnesium is striking. I take supplementary calcium (1000 mg/day) and magnesium (500 mg/ day). I rarely eat diary's. It seems like if it were an assimilation problem, other minerals would be generally low. Any ideas what would cause low CA/MG? I do exercise intensively (cycling 170 miles a week) and maybe that has an effect on what is left to show up in the hair. > > Is it a good idea to supplement for elements that show up in the low yellow or red zone (zinc, strontium, cobalt, germanium)? > > I have been following the group posts with interest and would appreciate any input you might have on my particular case. > > Thanks > > H. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 In frequent-dose-chelation , Hart wrote: Hello Group, The hair test I recently posted in tabular form is now in graph form (thanks to Dean) at the following link under Hairtest 24: http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/healingnetwork/hairtest.html A little about my health history. Starting around 12, I had chronic digestive problems (constipation/diarrhea). ------Do you recall if you had vaccines and/or fillings placed around this time, or just before? Just curious if you can link something to the onset.-----Jackie T> At 18, I collapsed with chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) and spent 6 months confined to bed before slowly gaining strength. -----Again, can you link any cause? Maybe stress or an illness?-----Jackie T. At 29, I had a recurrence of the CFS but with the added benefit of multiple chemical sensitivities (MCS). ------You felt fine in your 20's between episodes? Can you think of anything that happened at 29 which might have brought this on? Just curious. Also, I haven't taken the time to look it up, but I believe Andy talks about MCS in AI, and I thought it had something to do with your liver phase 1 and phase 2 rates, like being a fast phase 1 and a slow phase 2. I would read/study those sections if I were you, and see if it makes any sense to you. There are foods/supps to take or avoid, depending on which one you are. Alot of us take milk thistle to support the liver, and it is highly recommended by Andy.------Jackie >t Upon exposure my primary symptom is brain fog. -----Something you can try that Andy recommends is taking Alka Seltzer Gold---- it can help with brain fog and MCS reactions. I was exposed to bleach fumes once, and I took A.S. Gold and took and epsom salt bath, and it seemed to help. It contains citric acid 1000mg, potassium bicarbonate 344mg, and sodium bicarbonate 1050mg, that's it, nothing for pain or whatever in regular alka-seltzer. So it is a good source of some minerals/electrolytes and is very alkalizing. Hopefully will respond, she's our mineral/electrolyte expert!-------Jackie T> That is a pressure in my head and lack of focus, which extends to a generalized neurological shakiness. A secondary symptom is lung irritation. I no longer have CFS. Exercise is my best moderator of brain fog, although I still crash in exhaustion afterwards ------Could be adrenal, the crashing thing. This can show up on your hair test, when Calcium and magnesium go together in one direction, and sodium and potassium go together, usually in the opposite direction. Look at the examples of this in the HTI book, because I think yours might still fit the case, because there is a pretty big gap between where the Ca/Mg and the Na/K end up. The two pairs definitely follow each other, as happens in adrenal problems. Hopefully someone else will have time to comment on this. I haven't studied the book lately, so going off of memory.---Jackie I had all 12 dental fillings removed shortly after getting MCS. They were replaced with Conquest, a non-metal containing composite. A few years later I had two crowns with root canals placed by a non-toxic dentist using Biocalyx (sp?). (Yes, that could be a problem, but not for mercury.) Until three weeks before the hair test my supplementation consisted of regularly taking NOW pure powders of 1000mg/day calcium carbonate and 500 mg/day magnesium oxide. (I just ordered the citrate forms) Sporadically I would take a Thorne B complex, Unique E, and ARG Cassava (sp?) based Vit C. Three weeks before the hair test, I did a one week round of ALA 100 mg every 3 hours (Yes, I know that was stupid). After a week break, I did another week on 25 mg DMSA and 50 mg ALA every 3 hours (that was slightly smarter). -------Wow. You're lucky your symptoms weren't more severe. Did you have any on round symptoms, good or bad at these levels? This may be a sign that you are not as severely poisoned as some of us. But it is still best to start low and build up slowly. As TK says, side effects don't always show up right away.----Jackie >t The hair test was done midweek of that last round. I had also added a few random minerals (Chromium picolinate, molybdenum, Zinc citrate, Iodine, multi mineral w/o copper and iron) and regularized dosages of Vit E (800 IU/day), Vit C (4 g/day), and Vit B (2 caps/day). -------You may want to look at the suggested supps in AI and reconsider what you are taking and what you have dropped. Some type of EFA's would probably be good to add also. I think there are also suggestions in AI for heart pain.----Jackie >t After the hair test I stuck with the cal/mag, vit E, vit C, and zinc, and stopped the chromium, molybdenum and multi mineral based on high hair levels. As far as chelating, I plan to go to lower doses for shorter rounds. My post round symptoms were pins and needles in my skin and heart pain. Both of those are common reactivity symptoms for me. So I hope the graph and the background info make it a little easier to analyze the results. Really, there isn't much abnormal that I can see in it. Inga, it sounds right to me that a few toxic elements would be high for everybody, just considering the world we live in. If anyone sees something noteworthy let me know and I'll keep you posted about my chelation progress. -------Your Ca/P ratio on your hair test is very low, meaning you are a fast metabolizer and you make alot of adrenaline. You are suppose to do well on a high fat diet and substantial amounts of vit D. It also suggests a need for digestive enzymes. From page 112 of HTI (yes you got me to pull it out!), " This is to say that someone with a calcium to phosphorus ratio below 1 may be quite toxic but have all the bars in the toxic element section of the hair test within the green zone. " My Ca/P is very low too, and these statements seem to fit me also. I had a doctor tell me I needed to take vit D and digestive enzymes, and this wasn't from looking at a hair test. So just some things for you to consider.-------Jackie >t Thanks all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 In frequent-dose-chelation , Hart wrote: Hello Group, The hair test I recently posted in tabular form is now in graph form (thanks to Dean) at the following link under Hairtest 24: http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/healingnetwork/hairtest.html A little about my health history. Starting around 12, I had chronic digestive problems (constipation/diarrhea). ------Do you recall if you had vaccines and/or fillings placed around this time, or just before? Just curious if you can link something to the onset.-----Jackie T> At 18, I collapsed with chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) and spent 6 months confined to bed before slowly gaining strength. -----Again, can you link any cause? Maybe stress or an illness?-----Jackie T. At 29, I had a recurrence of the CFS but with the added benefit of multiple chemical sensitivities (MCS). ------You felt fine in your 20's between episodes? Can you think of anything that happened at 29 which might have brought this on? Just curious. Also, I haven't taken the time to look it up, but I believe Andy talks about MCS in AI, and I thought it had something to do with your liver phase 1 and phase 2 rates, like being a fast phase 1 and a slow phase 2. I would read/study those sections if I were you, and see if it makes any sense to you. There are foods/supps to take or avoid, depending on which one you are. Alot of us take milk thistle to support the liver, and it is highly recommended by Andy.------Jackie >t Upon exposure my primary symptom is brain fog. -----Something you can try that Andy recommends is taking Alka Seltzer Gold---- it can help with brain fog and MCS reactions. I was exposed to bleach fumes once, and I took A.S. Gold and took and epsom salt bath, and it seemed to help. It contains citric acid 1000mg, potassium bicarbonate 344mg, and sodium bicarbonate 1050mg, that's it, nothing for pain or whatever in regular alka-seltzer. So it is a good source of some minerals/electrolytes and is very alkalizing. Hopefully will respond, she's our mineral/electrolyte expert!-------Jackie T> That is a pressure in my head and lack of focus, which extends to a generalized neurological shakiness. A secondary symptom is lung irritation. I no longer have CFS. Exercise is my best moderator of brain fog, although I still crash in exhaustion afterwards ------Could be adrenal, the crashing thing. This can show up on your hair test, when Calcium and magnesium go together in one direction, and sodium and potassium go together, usually in the opposite direction. Look at the examples of this in the HTI book, because I think yours might still fit the case, because there is a pretty big gap between where the Ca/Mg and the Na/K end up. The two pairs definitely follow each other, as happens in adrenal problems. Hopefully someone else will have time to comment on this. I haven't studied the book lately, so going off of memory.---Jackie I had all 12 dental fillings removed shortly after getting MCS. They were replaced with Conquest, a non-metal containing composite. A few years later I had two crowns with root canals placed by a non-toxic dentist using Biocalyx (sp?). (Yes, that could be a problem, but not for mercury.) Until three weeks before the hair test my supplementation consisted of regularly taking NOW pure powders of 1000mg/day calcium carbonate and 500 mg/day magnesium oxide. (I just ordered the citrate forms) Sporadically I would take a Thorne B complex, Unique E, and ARG Cassava (sp?) based Vit C. Three weeks before the hair test, I did a one week round of ALA 100 mg every 3 hours (Yes, I know that was stupid). After a week break, I did another week on 25 mg DMSA and 50 mg ALA every 3 hours (that was slightly smarter). -------Wow. You're lucky your symptoms weren't more severe. Did you have any on round symptoms, good or bad at these levels? This may be a sign that you are not as severely poisoned as some of us. But it is still best to start low and build up slowly. As TK says, side effects don't always show up right away.----Jackie >t The hair test was done midweek of that last round. I had also added a few random minerals (Chromium picolinate, molybdenum, Zinc citrate, Iodine, multi mineral w/o copper and iron) and regularized dosages of Vit E (800 IU/day), Vit C (4 g/day), and Vit B (2 caps/day). -------You may want to look at the suggested supps in AI and reconsider what you are taking and what you have dropped. Some type of EFA's would probably be good to add also. I think there are also suggestions in AI for heart pain.----Jackie >t After the hair test I stuck with the cal/mag, vit E, vit C, and zinc, and stopped the chromium, molybdenum and multi mineral based on high hair levels. As far as chelating, I plan to go to lower doses for shorter rounds. My post round symptoms were pins and needles in my skin and heart pain. Both of those are common reactivity symptoms for me. So I hope the graph and the background info make it a little easier to analyze the results. Really, there isn't much abnormal that I can see in it. Inga, it sounds right to me that a few toxic elements would be high for everybody, just considering the world we live in. If anyone sees something noteworthy let me know and I'll keep you posted about my chelation progress. -------Your Ca/P ratio on your hair test is very low, meaning you are a fast metabolizer and you make alot of adrenaline. You are suppose to do well on a high fat diet and substantial amounts of vit D. It also suggests a need for digestive enzymes. From page 112 of HTI (yes you got me to pull it out!), " This is to say that someone with a calcium to phosphorus ratio below 1 may be quite toxic but have all the bars in the toxic element section of the hair test within the green zone. " My Ca/P is very low too, and these statements seem to fit me also. I had a doctor tell me I needed to take vit D and digestive enzymes, and this wasn't from looking at a hair test. So just some things for you to consider.-------Jackie >t Thanks all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 In frequent-dose-chelation , Hart wrote: Hello Group, The hair test I recently posted in tabular form is now in graph form (thanks to Dean) at the following link under Hairtest 24: http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/healingnetwork/hairtest.html A little about my health history. Starting around 12, I had chronic digestive problems (constipation/diarrhea). ------Do you recall if you had vaccines and/or fillings placed around this time, or just before? Just curious if you can link something to the onset.-----Jackie T> At 18, I collapsed with chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) and spent 6 months confined to bed before slowly gaining strength. -----Again, can you link any cause? Maybe stress or an illness?-----Jackie T. At 29, I had a recurrence of the CFS but with the added benefit of multiple chemical sensitivities (MCS). ------You felt fine in your 20's between episodes? Can you think of anything that happened at 29 which might have brought this on? Just curious. Also, I haven't taken the time to look it up, but I believe Andy talks about MCS in AI, and I thought it had something to do with your liver phase 1 and phase 2 rates, like being a fast phase 1 and a slow phase 2. I would read/study those sections if I were you, and see if it makes any sense to you. There are foods/supps to take or avoid, depending on which one you are. Alot of us take milk thistle to support the liver, and it is highly recommended by Andy.------Jackie >t Upon exposure my primary symptom is brain fog. -----Something you can try that Andy recommends is taking Alka Seltzer Gold---- it can help with brain fog and MCS reactions. I was exposed to bleach fumes once, and I took A.S. Gold and took and epsom salt bath, and it seemed to help. It contains citric acid 1000mg, potassium bicarbonate 344mg, and sodium bicarbonate 1050mg, that's it, nothing for pain or whatever in regular alka-seltzer. So it is a good source of some minerals/electrolytes and is very alkalizing. Hopefully will respond, she's our mineral/electrolyte expert!-------Jackie T> That is a pressure in my head and lack of focus, which extends to a generalized neurological shakiness. A secondary symptom is lung irritation. I no longer have CFS. Exercise is my best moderator of brain fog, although I still crash in exhaustion afterwards ------Could be adrenal, the crashing thing. This can show up on your hair test, when Calcium and magnesium go together in one direction, and sodium and potassium go together, usually in the opposite direction. Look at the examples of this in the HTI book, because I think yours might still fit the case, because there is a pretty big gap between where the Ca/Mg and the Na/K end up. The two pairs definitely follow each other, as happens in adrenal problems. Hopefully someone else will have time to comment on this. I haven't studied the book lately, so going off of memory.---Jackie I had all 12 dental fillings removed shortly after getting MCS. They were replaced with Conquest, a non-metal containing composite. A few years later I had two crowns with root canals placed by a non-toxic dentist using Biocalyx (sp?). (Yes, that could be a problem, but not for mercury.) Until three weeks before the hair test my supplementation consisted of regularly taking NOW pure powders of 1000mg/day calcium carbonate and 500 mg/day magnesium oxide. (I just ordered the citrate forms) Sporadically I would take a Thorne B complex, Unique E, and ARG Cassava (sp?) based Vit C. Three weeks before the hair test, I did a one week round of ALA 100 mg every 3 hours (Yes, I know that was stupid). After a week break, I did another week on 25 mg DMSA and 50 mg ALA every 3 hours (that was slightly smarter). -------Wow. You're lucky your symptoms weren't more severe. Did you have any on round symptoms, good or bad at these levels? This may be a sign that you are not as severely poisoned as some of us. But it is still best to start low and build up slowly. As TK says, side effects don't always show up right away.----Jackie >t The hair test was done midweek of that last round. I had also added a few random minerals (Chromium picolinate, molybdenum, Zinc citrate, Iodine, multi mineral w/o copper and iron) and regularized dosages of Vit E (800 IU/day), Vit C (4 g/day), and Vit B (2 caps/day). -------You may want to look at the suggested supps in AI and reconsider what you are taking and what you have dropped. Some type of EFA's would probably be good to add also. I think there are also suggestions in AI for heart pain.----Jackie >t After the hair test I stuck with the cal/mag, vit E, vit C, and zinc, and stopped the chromium, molybdenum and multi mineral based on high hair levels. As far as chelating, I plan to go to lower doses for shorter rounds. My post round symptoms were pins and needles in my skin and heart pain. Both of those are common reactivity symptoms for me. So I hope the graph and the background info make it a little easier to analyze the results. Really, there isn't much abnormal that I can see in it. Inga, it sounds right to me that a few toxic elements would be high for everybody, just considering the world we live in. If anyone sees something noteworthy let me know and I'll keep you posted about my chelation progress. -------Your Ca/P ratio on your hair test is very low, meaning you are a fast metabolizer and you make alot of adrenaline. You are suppose to do well on a high fat diet and substantial amounts of vit D. It also suggests a need for digestive enzymes. From page 112 of HTI (yes you got me to pull it out!), " This is to say that someone with a calcium to phosphorus ratio below 1 may be quite toxic but have all the bars in the toxic element section of the hair test within the green zone. " My Ca/P is very low too, and these statements seem to fit me also. I had a doctor tell me I needed to take vit D and digestive enzymes, and this wasn't from looking at a hair test. So just some things for you to consider.-------Jackie >t Thanks all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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