Guest guest Posted June 11, 2001 Report Share Posted June 11, 2001 Marla, Thanks for sharing the info! You are quite busy! Whew! It wore me out just reading about everything you do. I have CFS and I have to agree with you about how the " creative process " energizes. That's a quirky element to this disease. ------- Dory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2001 Report Share Posted June 11, 2001 Marla, Thanks for sharing the info! You are quite busy! Whew! It wore me out just reading about everything you do. I have CFS and I have to agree with you about how the " creative process " energizes. That's a quirky element to this disease. ------- Dory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2001 Report Share Posted June 11, 2001 Dory, I am a newbie too, so no one knows. I am a portrait artist/illustrator and a wanna-be-author. I am working on a fantasy trilogy. Two of the three books are written and I am prepping the first for submission (when I have the energy...sigh) and then starting on the endless road of looking for a literary agent (something else I have not had the energy for). The creating process (both writing and drawing) actually 'energizes' me, but when it comes to the everyday 'work' of prep etc. I just lose steam. I am also a doll restoration artist. In other words, I am self- employed in so many ways that I tend to spin in circles and get very little done most of the time. My husband also has a Design/Decorating business for which I do the books. And yes, I KNOW with 'fibro-fog' that is a frightening thought. I am slowly giving that over to an employee and only doing the computer work. So that's what I do and am doing. Marla > ----------------------------------------------- > > I'm a " newbie " to the group. If you don't mind me asking, Marla, what kind > of novel are you writing? > > --- Dory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2001 Report Share Posted June 11, 2001 Dory, I am a newbie too, so no one knows. I am a portrait artist/illustrator and a wanna-be-author. I am working on a fantasy trilogy. Two of the three books are written and I am prepping the first for submission (when I have the energy...sigh) and then starting on the endless road of looking for a literary agent (something else I have not had the energy for). The creating process (both writing and drawing) actually 'energizes' me, but when it comes to the everyday 'work' of prep etc. I just lose steam. I am also a doll restoration artist. In other words, I am self- employed in so many ways that I tend to spin in circles and get very little done most of the time. My husband also has a Design/Decorating business for which I do the books. And yes, I KNOW with 'fibro-fog' that is a frightening thought. I am slowly giving that over to an employee and only doing the computer work. So that's what I do and am doing. Marla > ----------------------------------------------- > > I'm a " newbie " to the group. If you don't mind me asking, Marla, what kind > of novel are you writing? > > --- Dory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2001 Report Share Posted June 11, 2001 Dory, I am a newbie too, so no one knows. I am a portrait artist/illustrator and a wanna-be-author. I am working on a fantasy trilogy. Two of the three books are written and I am prepping the first for submission (when I have the energy...sigh) and then starting on the endless road of looking for a literary agent (something else I have not had the energy for). The creating process (both writing and drawing) actually 'energizes' me, but when it comes to the everyday 'work' of prep etc. I just lose steam. I am also a doll restoration artist. In other words, I am self- employed in so many ways that I tend to spin in circles and get very little done most of the time. My husband also has a Design/Decorating business for which I do the books. And yes, I KNOW with 'fibro-fog' that is a frightening thought. I am slowly giving that over to an employee and only doing the computer work. So that's what I do and am doing. Marla > ----------------------------------------------- > > I'm a " newbie " to the group. If you don't mind me asking, Marla, what kind > of novel are you writing? > > --- Dory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2001 Report Share Posted June 11, 2001 In a message dated 6/11/01 5:59:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time, dee453@... writes: > I wonder how many of us here are like the one member said - very > > sensitive beings. I have within me a great NEED - not desire - for > > peace, and life today is rather chaotic Marla, Very nice writing. I for one am definately a sensative being. That is how my neice and myself refer to each other. I have always been interested in Native American thinking and art. My best friend does beautiful drawings on gourds of native american things. She is half Indian. I find their philosophy of life very interesting. I also am interested in Budah philosophy. I seek peace in my life. It all has to start with the way you think. I am trying very hard to think differently, but like you said sometimes I get caught up with the fast world, and sometimes the world ,I should say some people are very insensative, such as when they drive etc. Kathy D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2001 Report Share Posted June 11, 2001 My self I am guessing, but I believe it has to do with poor circulation. Just a guess mind you. Deana On Sun, 10 Jun 2001 20:12:50 +0200 " D. Krein " writes: > Hi Marla > I was wondering could the tinglging be a form of neuropathy. > > > > Re: Quick question > > > Sue and everyone who replied, > > Thanks for the answers. This tingling is one thing I never could > get > an answer for from anyone - other than my doctor who tends to think > it is muscle-related (as in pinched). The chiropracty does help, but > > only temporarily and it never disappears entirely. When I spotted > this symptom on the fibromyalgia web-page, it is what got me > thinking > in this direction. > > >I, for one, have learned about the 'power' of my > > thoughts. I recommend you read " Conversations with > > God " . It has helped me tremendously, > > Funny you should mention that. Yancy is one of my favorite writers > and I have the book sitting here in my study unopened. > > <I no longer am depressed, and that in itself > > has been a miracle...although it has been a conscious > > choice on my part. Realizing that every thought, word > > and action is a prayer that is always answered...good > > and 'bad'. You will understand when you are ready. > > I have walked a long road of healing in the last ten years - mental, > > spiritual and physical. I understand what you are talking about. I > > am a Christian, but also have a great interest in Native American > philosophy, which reflects what you are saying about 'living' life > as > a prayer. I try to do that - but tend to get caught up in everyday > life and forget at times. And when those you live with do not > understand that kind of thinking - it makes it hard sometimes. I > live with three very 'action' oriented, assertive people (my > husband, > daughter and Mom. They are like fire to my slow running water.... > > I wonder how many of us here are like the one member said - very > sensitive beings. I have within me a great NEED - not desire - for > peace, and life today is rather chaotic. I have learned to stop and > > try to let go of all the guilt and stress and 'hurrying' and to > just 'live'. I will pick up that book and give it a read along with > > my own writing (which I ALWAYS have to read as I try to work on my > novel... LOL) > > Blessings and thanks, > Marla > > > > SEND POST TO: fibromyalgia-cfs > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2001 Report Share Posted June 11, 2001 Well maybe my guess was wrong. about the leg cramps but I that would probably cause poor circulation. I am a nurse, but have worked with babies so long and been off work period for so long I feel like I am forgetting and losing my touch. Kind of scary to work so hard for a license and loose it with a twist of a chronic illness like fibro. I am very angry tonight about that. Sorry guys. I love my job. I do not want to give up nurturing and caring for those beautiful awful sick babies that gives me such joy to see them asleep and resting peacefully, wrapped and bundled and fed, like they love and knowing you did everything to make them feel loved and comfortable and now I cannot do it no more. Sorry guys been I rough weekend with a bad flare up and a not at understanding SO. It is getting harder to find peace in this enviroment. Deana On Sun, 10 Jun 2001 13:36:40 EDT patidu@... writes: > Yes, it could be. I have that problem with my legs and feet > and I have > neurophy in my legs. > > Take care, > Irene > > > > I was wondering could the tingling be a form of neuropathy. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2001 Report Share Posted June 12, 2001 abraxis3@... Hi Marla, I understand totally what you are saying about living with other people and keeping your own 'innerpeace'. I have learned something very important within the past few weeks, and I'm not sure if I will be able to convey it in words to you, but I'm gonna try. A year ago, a Medium, (I belong to a Spiritualist Church) told me that I felt responsible for other people, and had all of my life, and that I was a 'sentient' or a 'Sensitive'. It took me a year to fully understand what it was she was trying to tell me. I 'felt' other people's feelings...for them! My husband, as an example, was a very closed' person. He never got angry, or laughed-out-loud, or cried, or even knew what he felt. I would have to ask him, do you feel sad, mad or glad, and still, he would not know! He would come home, with a smile on his face, and instantly, I would know it was a 'phoney' smile, and even when I would say to him, " What's the matter? " He would say everything was fine. Within minutes he would say something 'insulting' or 'critical' and, in my 'gut', I would feel this burning sensation and, for lack of a better word...anxiety! If I would call him on his hurtful remark, he would say, " I never said that. " Before you knew it, I was angry. I would then see this 'smirk' on his face, and my anger would escalate. You can guess where it went from there! Later, I would find out that his day had gone badly. After I had gotten mad, he would then talk about what had happened. Still, from him, there was no 'feeling' shared. He was matter-of-fact about it. One day, it finally came to me that he would instigate my anger, and I did the 'feeling' for him! Now, unless someone understands that we are all 'energy', and that there is an exchange of this energy, and that people can 'steal' your energy from you and suck you dry, you remain locked in limbo. I wasn't aware of this. I 'blamed' myself for the feelings and thoughts I was having. I would be in a perfectly good mood, myself, and within a matter of seconds, that would change drastically. I was told I was 'moody' and 'PMS'ing! Looking back, it was this 'energy' and this pulling my positive energy from me, that not only caused my anger, but my deterioration in health as well! I had learned in Ali-Anon, years ago, that an alcoholic could pull you down to his level, but I could never have imagined what I understand now. As long as the alcoholic's mate gives her/his 'power' away to the acoholic, by feeling responsible for the alcoholic's behavior, the alcoholic will never hit his bottom...in other words, feel and express his/her own feelings! This doesn't just apply to alcoholic's. I've learned that it can apply to anyone! So, at a level that 'we can't see', with our physical eyes, something very profound is going on. A few years ago, I was a seamstress in a tux shop, and I 'loved' my job! I was quite content with what I was doing, and loved the people I was working with. One day, a new girl came to work. I was sewing, with my headphones on (from my walkman) and humming as I sewed. Suddenly, I said to myself, " I hate this job, I wish I wasn't here. I want to go home! " I stopped doing what I was doing 'dead in my tracks'. Where did that come from? I didn't hate my job. I just got to work, I had nothing to go home for! I took my headphones off and sat back in my chair, and noticed the girl a few feet from me, leaning over the sewing machine and cussing, under her breath. I noticed this feeling in my body of anxiety. It was so strong, and in my 'gut', this feeling so hot! I took a breath and said to her, " And how are you today? " She didn't look up and almosted shouted at me, " I hate this job! I wish I wasn't here! I want to go home! " I can't even begin to explain the feeling that came over me!!! Fear? Anxiety? Disbelief? Shock? Everything mixed into one!!!! How did this happen? Her thoughts were in 'my' head!!!! As soon as I realized they were 'her' thoughts, the awful feeling in my 'gut' suddenlly disappeared!!! It was replaced with my own WOW moment!!! I must have thought it was a one-time deal! Who'd believe me, anyway? There was no one to talk to about this. They'd call the paddywagon! Since then, many several different episodes have presented themselves for me to look at, and there is no doubt in my mind, that we are somehow 'telepathic' and don't know it, because the 'voice' sounds like 'us', and we don't believe this is possible, so there would be no reason to even consider it. Right? When I finally realized that I was doing the 'feeling' work for my husband, I decided it was going to stop! When he said dishonerable things to me, I now saw them as 'dishonerable'. Some dishonerable things people say to other people are, " you're over-reacting " , " you're too sensitive " , " you don't know what you're talking about " , etc. When they do this, they 'dismiss' you! Instead, I would end up thinking there was something wrong with me! In this way, I was being 'responsible' for them, because I doubted what my spirit had told me to begin with!!!! As soon a I 'quit' doubting myself, those feelings in my 'gut' ceased to happen!!! Maybe I couldn't prove that he was angry, but I now knew it was coming from him...not me! It set me free. Nothing he could say would get me angry. If I had to...I left and told him, on my way out, " You'll have to sit and stew by yourself, I'm not doing it for you! " After, about a week of my not 'reacting', he began getting mad! This man I'd been married to for l5 years and never having seen mad before!!! It was a miracle! I trusted my feelings, and took back my 'power'! I found that I was beginning to have more energy!!! Those headaches became further apart and fewer. I realized that that painful 'gut' feeling had been there to get me to 'see'. As soon as I 'saw', it left me! And,so, I decided that pain was there to help me, and before ya knew it, books were presenting themsevles to me, talking about this very thing and helping to explain it better! Now, I'll notice right away that the feeling isn't mine, and I'm so much happier and healthier! Just felt like sharing that for those who don't know what I meant by alot of us being 'sensitive's' and not knowing it. You take care and have a great day! Love, Sue --- Marla Fair wrote: > Sue and everyone who replied, > > Thanks for the answers. This tingling is one thing > I never could get > an answer for from anyone - other than my doctor who > tends to think > it is muscle-related (as in pinched). The > chiropracty does help, but > only temporarily and it never disappears entirely. > When I spotted > this symptom on the fibromyalgia web-page, it is > what got me thinking > in this direction. > > >I, for one, have learned about the 'power' of my > > thoughts. I recommend you read " Conversations > with > > God " . It has helped me tremendously, > > Funny you should mention that. Yancy is one of my > favorite writers > and I have the book sitting here in my study > unopened. > > <I no longer am depressed, and that in itself > > has been a miracle...although it has been a > conscious > > choice on my part. Realizing that every thought, > word > > and action is a prayer that is always > answered...good > > and 'bad'. You will understand when you are > ready. > > I have walked a long road of healing in the last ten > years - mental, > spiritual and physical. I understand what you are > talking about. I > am a Christian, but also have a great interest in > Native American > philosophy, which reflects what you are saying about > 'living' life as > a prayer. I try to do that - but tend to get caught > up in everyday > life and forget at times. And when those you live > with do not > understand that kind of thinking - it makes it hard > sometimes. I > live with three very 'action' oriented, assertive > people (my husband, > daughter and Mom. They are like fire to my slow > running water.... > > I wonder how many of us here are like the one member > said - very > sensitive beings. I have within me a great NEED - > not desire - for > peace, and life today is rather chaotic. I have > learned to stop and > try to let go of all the guilt and stress and > 'hurrying' and to > just 'live'. I will pick up that book and give it a > read along with > my own writing (which I ALWAYS have to read as I try > to work on my > novel... LOL) > > Blessings and thanks, > Marla > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2001 Report Share Posted June 12, 2001 abraxis3@... Hi Marla, I understand totally what you are saying about living with other people and keeping your own 'innerpeace'. I have learned something very important within the past few weeks, and I'm not sure if I will be able to convey it in words to you, but I'm gonna try. A year ago, a Medium, (I belong to a Spiritualist Church) told me that I felt responsible for other people, and had all of my life, and that I was a 'sentient' or a 'Sensitive'. It took me a year to fully understand what it was she was trying to tell me. I 'felt' other people's feelings...for them! My husband, as an example, was a very closed' person. He never got angry, or laughed-out-loud, or cried, or even knew what he felt. I would have to ask him, do you feel sad, mad or glad, and still, he would not know! He would come home, with a smile on his face, and instantly, I would know it was a 'phoney' smile, and even when I would say to him, " What's the matter? " He would say everything was fine. Within minutes he would say something 'insulting' or 'critical' and, in my 'gut', I would feel this burning sensation and, for lack of a better word...anxiety! If I would call him on his hurtful remark, he would say, " I never said that. " Before you knew it, I was angry. I would then see this 'smirk' on his face, and my anger would escalate. You can guess where it went from there! Later, I would find out that his day had gone badly. After I had gotten mad, he would then talk about what had happened. Still, from him, there was no 'feeling' shared. He was matter-of-fact about it. One day, it finally came to me that he would instigate my anger, and I did the 'feeling' for him! Now, unless someone understands that we are all 'energy', and that there is an exchange of this energy, and that people can 'steal' your energy from you and suck you dry, you remain locked in limbo. I wasn't aware of this. I 'blamed' myself for the feelings and thoughts I was having. I would be in a perfectly good mood, myself, and within a matter of seconds, that would change drastically. I was told I was 'moody' and 'PMS'ing! Looking back, it was this 'energy' and this pulling my positive energy from me, that not only caused my anger, but my deterioration in health as well! I had learned in Ali-Anon, years ago, that an alcoholic could pull you down to his level, but I could never have imagined what I understand now. As long as the alcoholic's mate gives her/his 'power' away to the acoholic, by feeling responsible for the alcoholic's behavior, the alcoholic will never hit his bottom...in other words, feel and express his/her own feelings! This doesn't just apply to alcoholic's. I've learned that it can apply to anyone! So, at a level that 'we can't see', with our physical eyes, something very profound is going on. A few years ago, I was a seamstress in a tux shop, and I 'loved' my job! I was quite content with what I was doing, and loved the people I was working with. One day, a new girl came to work. I was sewing, with my headphones on (from my walkman) and humming as I sewed. Suddenly, I said to myself, " I hate this job, I wish I wasn't here. I want to go home! " I stopped doing what I was doing 'dead in my tracks'. Where did that come from? I didn't hate my job. I just got to work, I had nothing to go home for! I took my headphones off and sat back in my chair, and noticed the girl a few feet from me, leaning over the sewing machine and cussing, under her breath. I noticed this feeling in my body of anxiety. It was so strong, and in my 'gut', this feeling so hot! I took a breath and said to her, " And how are you today? " She didn't look up and almosted shouted at me, " I hate this job! I wish I wasn't here! I want to go home! " I can't even begin to explain the feeling that came over me!!! Fear? Anxiety? Disbelief? Shock? Everything mixed into one!!!! How did this happen? Her thoughts were in 'my' head!!!! As soon as I realized they were 'her' thoughts, the awful feeling in my 'gut' suddenlly disappeared!!! It was replaced with my own WOW moment!!! I must have thought it was a one-time deal! Who'd believe me, anyway? There was no one to talk to about this. They'd call the paddywagon! Since then, many several different episodes have presented themselves for me to look at, and there is no doubt in my mind, that we are somehow 'telepathic' and don't know it, because the 'voice' sounds like 'us', and we don't believe this is possible, so there would be no reason to even consider it. Right? When I finally realized that I was doing the 'feeling' work for my husband, I decided it was going to stop! When he said dishonerable things to me, I now saw them as 'dishonerable'. Some dishonerable things people say to other people are, " you're over-reacting " , " you're too sensitive " , " you don't know what you're talking about " , etc. When they do this, they 'dismiss' you! Instead, I would end up thinking there was something wrong with me! In this way, I was being 'responsible' for them, because I doubted what my spirit had told me to begin with!!!! As soon a I 'quit' doubting myself, those feelings in my 'gut' ceased to happen!!! Maybe I couldn't prove that he was angry, but I now knew it was coming from him...not me! It set me free. Nothing he could say would get me angry. If I had to...I left and told him, on my way out, " You'll have to sit and stew by yourself, I'm not doing it for you! " After, about a week of my not 'reacting', he began getting mad! This man I'd been married to for l5 years and never having seen mad before!!! It was a miracle! I trusted my feelings, and took back my 'power'! I found that I was beginning to have more energy!!! Those headaches became further apart and fewer. I realized that that painful 'gut' feeling had been there to get me to 'see'. As soon as I 'saw', it left me! And,so, I decided that pain was there to help me, and before ya knew it, books were presenting themsevles to me, talking about this very thing and helping to explain it better! Now, I'll notice right away that the feeling isn't mine, and I'm so much happier and healthier! Just felt like sharing that for those who don't know what I meant by alot of us being 'sensitive's' and not knowing it. You take care and have a great day! Love, Sue --- Marla Fair wrote: > Sue and everyone who replied, > > Thanks for the answers. This tingling is one thing > I never could get > an answer for from anyone - other than my doctor who > tends to think > it is muscle-related (as in pinched). The > chiropracty does help, but > only temporarily and it never disappears entirely. > When I spotted > this symptom on the fibromyalgia web-page, it is > what got me thinking > in this direction. > > >I, for one, have learned about the 'power' of my > > thoughts. I recommend you read " Conversations > with > > God " . It has helped me tremendously, > > Funny you should mention that. Yancy is one of my > favorite writers > and I have the book sitting here in my study > unopened. > > <I no longer am depressed, and that in itself > > has been a miracle...although it has been a > conscious > > choice on my part. Realizing that every thought, > word > > and action is a prayer that is always > answered...good > > and 'bad'. You will understand when you are > ready. > > I have walked a long road of healing in the last ten > years - mental, > spiritual and physical. I understand what you are > talking about. I > am a Christian, but also have a great interest in > Native American > philosophy, which reflects what you are saying about > 'living' life as > a prayer. I try to do that - but tend to get caught > up in everyday > life and forget at times. And when those you live > with do not > understand that kind of thinking - it makes it hard > sometimes. I > live with three very 'action' oriented, assertive > people (my husband, > daughter and Mom. They are like fire to my slow > running water.... > > I wonder how many of us here are like the one member > said - very > sensitive beings. I have within me a great NEED - > not desire - for > peace, and life today is rather chaotic. I have > learned to stop and > try to let go of all the guilt and stress and > 'hurrying' and to > just 'live'. I will pick up that book and give it a > read along with > my own writing (which I ALWAYS have to read as I try > to work on my > novel... LOL) > > Blessings and thanks, > Marla > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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