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Dan wrote:

Don't forget, dogs get ticks and fleas! Check to see if you're hypo,but also it could be allergies, esp hives or maybe a soap allergy, andyour morning headache could just be a bad pillow............................dan---

Okay thanks, I am thinking it is from the hypo. I recently upped my Armour from two grains to 3 grains and started having headaches in the morning.

Hope I am not allergic to the Armour or the increase or something.__________________________________________________

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Don't forget, dogs get ticks and fleas! Check to see if you're hypo,but also it could be allergies, esp hives or maybe a soap allergy, andyour morning headache could just be a bad pillow............................dan---

Okay thanks, I am thinking it is from the hypo. I recently upped my Armour from two grains to 3 grains and started having headaches in the morning.

Hope I am not allergic to the Armour or the increase or something.__________________________________________________

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You increased from 2 grain to 3 grain all in one jump???

That may very well be the problem... you can't make that big a jump all at once....

How long were you on 2 grain before going to 3?

What did you last labs look like?

How long were you on three before the morning headaches started?

Are you taking it all in one dose?

What time(s) of day are you dosing?

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On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:53:21 -0700 (PDT) Betty Flager writes:

Dan wrote:

Don't forget, dogs get ticks and fleas! Check to see if you're hypo,but also it could be allergies, esp hives or maybe a soap allergy, andyour morning headache could just be a bad pillow............................dan---

Okay thanks, I am thinking it is from the hypo. I recently upped my Armour from two grains to 3 grains and started having headaches in the morning.

Hope I am not allergic to the Armour or the increase or something.

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You increased from 2 grain to 3 grain all in one jump???

That may very well be the problem... you can't make that big a jump all at once....

How long were you on 2 grain before going to 3?

What did you last labs look like?

How long were you on three before the morning headaches started?

Are you taking it all in one dose?

What time(s) of day are you dosing?

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Dan wrote:

Don't forget, dogs get ticks and fleas! Check to see if you're hypo,but also it could be allergies, esp hives or maybe a soap allergy, andyour morning headache could just be a bad pillow............................dan---

Okay thanks, I am thinking it is from the hypo. I recently upped my Armour from two grains to 3 grains and started having headaches in the morning.

Hope I am not allergic to the Armour or the increase or something.

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You increased from 2 grain to 3 grain all in one jump???

That may very well be the problem... you can't make that big a jump all at once....

How long were you on 2 grain before going to 3?

What did you last labs look like?

How long were you on three before the morning headaches started?

Are you taking it all in one dose?

What time(s) of day are you dosing?

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Dan wrote:

Don't forget, dogs get ticks and fleas! Check to see if you're hypo,but also it could be allergies, esp hives or maybe a soap allergy, andyour morning headache could just be a bad pillow............................dan---

Okay thanks, I am thinking it is from the hypo. I recently upped my Armour from two grains to 3 grains and started having headaches in the morning.

Hope I am not allergic to the Armour or the increase or something.

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Oh my, I never thought about that. I just know you are right. I take 1 1/2 grain in the morning and about 1 or 2 take another 1/1/2. Maybe I had better stick with just 2 1/2 grains a day.

I bet it is a jolt to my adrenals huh? Thanks so much, I have been searching and reading and could not come up with an answer. All I had to do was ask huh?I noticed I have been sweating with the least amount of physical strain.

Bettykats3boys wrote:

Okay thanks, I am thinking it is from the hypo. I recently upped my Armour from two grains to 3 grains and started having headaches in the morning.Two to three grains is a big up all at once and the headaches maybe from too much hormone for what your body is use to..Do you take it all in the morning or split it? You may want to back off and slowly increase by 1/4 or 1/2 grain at a time until your body adjusts then up it again until you get to 3 grains.

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Oh my, I never thought about that. I just know you are right. I take 1 1/2 grain in the morning and about 1 or 2 take another 1/1/2. Maybe I had better stick with just 2 1/2 grains a day.

I bet it is a jolt to my adrenals huh? Thanks so much, I have been searching and reading and could not come up with an answer. All I had to do was ask huh?I noticed I have been sweating with the least amount of physical strain.

Bettykats3boys wrote:

Okay thanks, I am thinking it is from the hypo. I recently upped my Armour from two grains to 3 grains and started having headaches in the morning.Two to three grains is a big up all at once and the headaches maybe from too much hormone for what your body is use to..Do you take it all in the morning or split it? You may want to back off and slowly increase by 1/4 or 1/2 grain at a time until your body adjusts then up it again until you get to 3 grains.

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Oh my, I never thought about that. I just know you are right. I take 1 1/2 grain in the morning and about 1 or 2 take another 1/1/2. Maybe I had better stick with just 2 1/2 grains a day.

I bet it is a jolt to my adrenals huh? Thanks so much, I have been searching and reading and could not come up with an answer. All I had to do was ask huh?I noticed I have been sweating with the least amount of physical strain.

Bettykats3boys wrote:

Okay thanks, I am thinking it is from the hypo. I recently upped my Armour from two grains to 3 grains and started having headaches in the morning.Two to three grains is a big up all at once and the headaches maybe from too much hormone for what your body is use to..Do you take it all in the morning or split it? You may want to back off and slowly increase by 1/4 or 1/2 grain at a time until your body adjusts then up it again until you get to 3 grains.

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You increased from 2 grain to 3 grain all in one jump???

That may very well be the problem... you can't make that big a jump all at once....

How long were you on 2 grain before going to 3?

What did you last labs look like?

How long were you on three before the morning headaches started?

Are you taking it all in one dose?

What time(s) of day are you dosing?

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I was on it for about 2 months and still feeling like crap. Guess I want to feel better too fast.

I just answered a post from Kats3boys. She also said that was too big a jump. I am backing down 1/2 grain and see what happens.

Thank you, Shhh!! I self medicate because of some uneducated doctors.

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topper2@... wrote:

You increased from 2 grain to 3 grain all in one jump???

That may very well be the problem... you can't make that big a jump all at once....

How long were you on 2 grain before going to 3?

What did you last labs look like?

How long were you on three before the morning headaches started?

Are you taking it all in one dose?

What time(s) of day are you dosing?

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I was on it for about 2 months and still feeling like crap. Guess I want to feel better too fast.

I just answered a post from Kats3boys. She also said that was too big a jump. I am backing down 1/2 grain and see what happens.

Thank you, Shhh!! I self medicate because of some uneducated doctors.

Betty__________________________________________________

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I self medicate too.. have been for nearly three years... anniversary is next month, as a matter of fact..... I'll be hosting a party at the CAFE... everyone is invited....

You'd be amazed and the things you can learn here just by bringing stuff up and letting the others pick through it..... I learn new stuff all the time!

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On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:11:18 -0700 (PDT) Betty Flager writes:

I just answered a post from Kats3boys. She also said that was too big a jump. I am backing down 1/2 grain and see what happens.

Thank you, Shhh!! I self medicate because of some uneducated doctors.

Betty

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I self medicate too.. have been for nearly three years... anniversary is next month, as a matter of fact..... I'll be hosting a party at the CAFE... everyone is invited....

You'd be amazed and the things you can learn here just by bringing stuff up and letting the others pick through it..... I learn new stuff all the time!

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On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:11:18 -0700 (PDT) Betty Flager writes:

I just answered a post from Kats3boys. She also said that was too big a jump. I am backing down 1/2 grain and see what happens.

Thank you, Shhh!! I self medicate because of some uneducated doctors.

Betty

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I self medicate too.. have been for nearly three years... anniversary is next month, as a matter of fact..... I'll be hosting a party at the CAFE... everyone is invited....

You'd be amazed and the things you can learn here just by bringing stuff up and letting the others pick through it..... I learn new stuff all the time!

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On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:11:18 -0700 (PDT) Betty Flager writes:

I just answered a post from Kats3boys. She also said that was too big a jump. I am backing down 1/2 grain and see what happens.

Thank you, Shhh!! I self medicate because of some uneducated doctors.

Betty

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topper2@... wrote:

I self medicate too.. have been for nearly three years... anniversary is next month, as a matter of fact..... I'll be hosting a party at the CAFE... everyone is invited....

You'd be amazed and the things you can learn here just by bringing stuff up and letting the others pick through it..... I learn new stuff all the time!

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Yes this is a very active group and I have been reading the messages. I had RAI last year and I had such idiotic doctors that I fired them all.

I would be dead by now if I hadn't taken my health in my own hands.

Betty

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topper2@... wrote:

I self medicate too.. have been for nearly three years... anniversary is next month, as a matter of fact..... I'll be hosting a party at the CAFE... everyone is invited....

You'd be amazed and the things you can learn here just by bringing stuff up and letting the others pick through it..... I learn new stuff all the time!

Topper ()

Yes this is a very active group and I have been reading the messages. I had RAI last year and I had such idiotic doctors that I fired them all.

I would be dead by now if I hadn't taken my health in my own hands.

Betty

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Shake hands with another RAI victim...I had mine about 15 years ago... spent way too many years with stupid docs.. then no meds then bit the bullet and figured I couldn't do any worse than they did!!!

I consider it the BEST thing I have ever done for me in my entire life, bar none.

What was your diagnosis?

Mine was a genetic "lovely".... I was in thyroid storm for a year, or more.... by the time I got a smart doc it was RAI or die..... and after... they told me that I still might die... probably one of the worst days of my life... oh yeah, day, singular, as in no time to ask questions, research or sleep on it... it was here, sign this or no treatment., no treatment die... treatment you still might day....

arrrgghhhhh can't tell that memory still gets to me.....

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Yes this is a very active group and I have been reading the messages. I had RAI last year and I had such idiotic doctors that I fired them all.

I would be dead by now if I hadn't taken my health in my own hands.

Betty

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I had hypothyroidism at age 36 now 51. Had Graves diagnosed in 2002, took antithyroid drugs for almost two years, then I decided to take RAI. Thought it would be a quick fix, did not happen. It may have been alright if I had found a doc that new something about post RAI patients. I just said to heck with them, I will take this matter in my own hands. I became hypo last July and they just would not give me any t4 meds at all. I begged for them for several weeks.

What do they think we are, a herd of cows? Seems like I was treated like one. I feel pretty good now accept for upping the Armour too fast. It must be powerful stuff.topper2@... wrote:

Shake hands with another RAI victim...I had mine about 15 years ago... spent way too many years with stupid docs.. then no meds then bit the bullet and figured I couldn't do any worse than they did!!!

I consider it the BEST thing I have ever done for me in my entire life, bar none.

What was your diagnosis?

Mine was a genetic "lovely".... I was in thyroid storm for a year, or more.... by the time I got a smart doc it was RAI or die..... and after... they told me that I still might die... probably one of the worst days of my life... oh yeah, day, singular, as in no time to ask questions, research or sleep on it... it was here, sign this or no treatment., no treatment die... treatment you still might day....

arrrgghhhhh can't tell that memory still gets to me.....

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I had hypothyroidism at age 36 now 51. Had Graves diagnosed in 2002, took antithyroid drugs for almost two years, then I decided to take RAI. Thought it would be a quick fix, did not happen. It may have been alright if I had found a doc that new something about post RAI patients. I just said to heck with them, I will take this matter in my own hands. I became hypo last July and they just would not give me any t4 meds at all. I begged for them for several weeks.

What do they think we are, a herd of cows? Seems like I was treated like one. I feel pretty good now accept for upping the Armour too fast. It must be powerful stuff.topper2@... wrote:

Shake hands with another RAI victim...I had mine about 15 years ago... spent way too many years with stupid docs.. then no meds then bit the bullet and figured I couldn't do any worse than they did!!!

I consider it the BEST thing I have ever done for me in my entire life, bar none.

What was your diagnosis?

Mine was a genetic "lovely".... I was in thyroid storm for a year, or more.... by the time I got a smart doc it was RAI or die..... and after... they told me that I still might die... probably one of the worst days of my life... oh yeah, day, singular, as in no time to ask questions, research or sleep on it... it was here, sign this or no treatment., no treatment die... treatment you still might day....

arrrgghhhhh can't tell that memory still gets to me.....

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Hello, Betty,

I have a few thoughts regarding what the doctors consider us to

be.... I won't share them....

My name is Dianne, now 58 and was originally diagnosed hypothyroid

in 1966, but my meds were stopped shortly after I married (we also

moved). The " low thyroid " problem was acknowledged by every doctor I saw

over the years, but no one did anything about it other than to tell me that

I was depressed. Hmmm... In 1991 my doctor started me on Synthroid. I

kept complaining that something else had to be wrong or I would feel

better. I mean what was the point in prescribing medication that did not

make things better? Even now, my current doctor will not prescribe more

than 2 grains of Armour. To heck with that. I went to Mexico and bought

more 2 grain and some 3 grain. I will be cutting up the 3 grain tabs so

that I can do the gradual increase to 3 grains a day.

Armour is very powerful, especially when the thyroid problem has

not been addressed before. I had been on Synthroid or one of its clines

for years with no improvement. When I switched to Armour I knew the

difference within a couple of weeks. Wow! It really ticks me off that the

doctors have so little regard for us that they won't even do their own

research into this.

BTW, my doctor also has me on B-12 shots every two

weeks. Although no new testing has been done, my last two test reports

indicated that I have become somewhat anemic....

Dianne

At 08:51 PM 6/14/05, you wrote:

>I had hypothyroidism at age 36 now 51. Had Graves diagnosed in 2002, took

>antithyroid drugs for almost two years, then I decided to take RAI.

>Thought it would be a quick fix, did not happen. It may have been alright

>if I had found a doc that new something about post RAI patients. I just

>said to heck with them, I will take this matter in my own hands. I became

>hypo last July and they just would not give me any t4 meds at all. I

>begged for them for several weeks.

>

>What do they think we are, a herd of cows? Seems like I was treated like

>one. I feel pretty good now accept for upping the Armour too fast. It must

>be powerful stuff.

>

>

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Hello, Betty,

I have a few thoughts regarding what the doctors consider us to

be.... I won't share them....

My name is Dianne, now 58 and was originally diagnosed hypothyroid

in 1966, but my meds were stopped shortly after I married (we also

moved). The " low thyroid " problem was acknowledged by every doctor I saw

over the years, but no one did anything about it other than to tell me that

I was depressed. Hmmm... In 1991 my doctor started me on Synthroid. I

kept complaining that something else had to be wrong or I would feel

better. I mean what was the point in prescribing medication that did not

make things better? Even now, my current doctor will not prescribe more

than 2 grains of Armour. To heck with that. I went to Mexico and bought

more 2 grain and some 3 grain. I will be cutting up the 3 grain tabs so

that I can do the gradual increase to 3 grains a day.

Armour is very powerful, especially when the thyroid problem has

not been addressed before. I had been on Synthroid or one of its clines

for years with no improvement. When I switched to Armour I knew the

difference within a couple of weeks. Wow! It really ticks me off that the

doctors have so little regard for us that they won't even do their own

research into this.

BTW, my doctor also has me on B-12 shots every two

weeks. Although no new testing has been done, my last two test reports

indicated that I have become somewhat anemic....

Dianne

At 08:51 PM 6/14/05, you wrote:

>I had hypothyroidism at age 36 now 51. Had Graves diagnosed in 2002, took

>antithyroid drugs for almost two years, then I decided to take RAI.

>Thought it would be a quick fix, did not happen. It may have been alright

>if I had found a doc that new something about post RAI patients. I just

>said to heck with them, I will take this matter in my own hands. I became

>hypo last July and they just would not give me any t4 meds at all. I

>begged for them for several weeks.

>

>What do they think we are, a herd of cows? Seems like I was treated like

>one. I feel pretty good now accept for upping the Armour too fast. It must

>be powerful stuff.

>

>

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Hello, Betty,

I have a few thoughts regarding what the doctors consider us to

be.... I won't share them....

My name is Dianne, now 58 and was originally diagnosed hypothyroid

in 1966, but my meds were stopped shortly after I married (we also

moved). The " low thyroid " problem was acknowledged by every doctor I saw

over the years, but no one did anything about it other than to tell me that

I was depressed. Hmmm... In 1991 my doctor started me on Synthroid. I

kept complaining that something else had to be wrong or I would feel

better. I mean what was the point in prescribing medication that did not

make things better? Even now, my current doctor will not prescribe more

than 2 grains of Armour. To heck with that. I went to Mexico and bought

more 2 grain and some 3 grain. I will be cutting up the 3 grain tabs so

that I can do the gradual increase to 3 grains a day.

Armour is very powerful, especially when the thyroid problem has

not been addressed before. I had been on Synthroid or one of its clines

for years with no improvement. When I switched to Armour I knew the

difference within a couple of weeks. Wow! It really ticks me off that the

doctors have so little regard for us that they won't even do their own

research into this.

BTW, my doctor also has me on B-12 shots every two

weeks. Although no new testing has been done, my last two test reports

indicated that I have become somewhat anemic....

Dianne

At 08:51 PM 6/14/05, you wrote:

>I had hypothyroidism at age 36 now 51. Had Graves diagnosed in 2002, took

>antithyroid drugs for almost two years, then I decided to take RAI.

>Thought it would be a quick fix, did not happen. It may have been alright

>if I had found a doc that new something about post RAI patients. I just

>said to heck with them, I will take this matter in my own hands. I became

>hypo last July and they just would not give me any t4 meds at all. I

>begged for them for several weeks.

>

>What do they think we are, a herd of cows? Seems like I was treated like

>one. I feel pretty good now accept for upping the Armour too fast. It must

>be powerful stuff.

>

>

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Oh I am so sorry, you must have had a rough time of it. As I look back, I really believe that I was undermedicated all those years on synthroid.

I just hope that our sources will always be available. One of these days I am going to find a good doctor. There are not many in these neck of the woods.LOLDianne wrote:

Hello, Betty, I have a few thoughts regarding what the doctors consider us to be.... I won't share them.... My name is Dianne, now 58 and was originally diagnosed hypothyroid in 1966, but my meds were stopped shortly after I married (we also moved). The "low thyroid" problem was acknowledged by every doctor I saw over the years, but no one did anything about it other than to tell me that I was depressed. Hmmm... In 1991 my doctor started me on Synthroid. I kept complaining that something else had to be wrong or I would feel better. I mean what was the point in prescribing medication that did not make things better? Even now, my current doctor will not prescribe more than 2 grains of

Armour. To heck with that. I went to Mexico and bought more 2 grain and some 3 grain. I will be cutting up the 3 grain tabs so that I can do the gradual increase to 3 grains a day. Armour is very powerful, especially when the thyroid problem has not been addressed before. I had been on Synthroid or one of its clines for years with no improvement. When I switched to Armour I knew the difference within a couple of weeks. Wow! It really ticks me off that the doctors have so little regard for us that they won't even do their own research into this. BTW, my doctor also has me on B-12 shots every two weeks. Although no new testing has been done, my last two test reports indicated that I have become somewhat

anemic.... Dianne

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Hi, Betty,

Early on, I was too busy being a new wife. After that I was busy

raising my sister's four kids. Who had time to be sick? I mean, I would

tell the doctor how I felt, but I would be blown off with " It is probably

just your hormones or depression, Dianne. You have a very busy life and

all women complain of these things. " What a load of baloney!

In any event, the depression did send me to the hospital five

times and each time the doctors noticed the low thyroid, but didn't do

anything. It was my psychiatrist who decided to check into this and

prescribed Armour instead of Synthroid, but he went through my family

doctor to do that. I no longer see the psychiatrist (he had moved to

another state) and my current doctor just doesn't listen to me where the

thyroid is concerned.

After starting Armour, everything got better and continued to

improve for the first six months. After that, the things that had taken a

longer time to show up were gradually improving, so I was not unhappy with

the results until about two years ago. My doctor does not understand that

I am really sick and tired of being sick and tired.

I will see what this other doctor thinks of all of this. BTW, I

have also found out that a DO rather than an MD is more likely to prescribe

Armour than Synthroid because they spend more time learning about how the

various body systems work rather than listening to the drug company reps

blurbs about how good the newest medications are. They new ones are the

most expensive and I won't take them.

Dianne

At 10:06 PM 6/14/05, you wrote:

>Oh I am so sorry, you must have had a rough time of it. As I look back, I

>really believe that I was undermedicated all those years on synthroid.

>

>I just hope that our sources will always be available. One of these days I

>am going to find a good doctor. There are not many in these neck of the

>woods.LOL

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Hi, Betty,

Early on, I was too busy being a new wife. After that I was busy

raising my sister's four kids. Who had time to be sick? I mean, I would

tell the doctor how I felt, but I would be blown off with " It is probably

just your hormones or depression, Dianne. You have a very busy life and

all women complain of these things. " What a load of baloney!

In any event, the depression did send me to the hospital five

times and each time the doctors noticed the low thyroid, but didn't do

anything. It was my psychiatrist who decided to check into this and

prescribed Armour instead of Synthroid, but he went through my family

doctor to do that. I no longer see the psychiatrist (he had moved to

another state) and my current doctor just doesn't listen to me where the

thyroid is concerned.

After starting Armour, everything got better and continued to

improve for the first six months. After that, the things that had taken a

longer time to show up were gradually improving, so I was not unhappy with

the results until about two years ago. My doctor does not understand that

I am really sick and tired of being sick and tired.

I will see what this other doctor thinks of all of this. BTW, I

have also found out that a DO rather than an MD is more likely to prescribe

Armour than Synthroid because they spend more time learning about how the

various body systems work rather than listening to the drug company reps

blurbs about how good the newest medications are. They new ones are the

most expensive and I won't take them.

Dianne

At 10:06 PM 6/14/05, you wrote:

>Oh I am so sorry, you must have had a rough time of it. As I look back, I

>really believe that I was undermedicated all those years on synthroid.

>

>I just hope that our sources will always be available. One of these days I

>am going to find a good doctor. There are not many in these neck of the

>woods.LOL

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Hi, Betty,

Early on, I was too busy being a new wife. After that I was busy

raising my sister's four kids. Who had time to be sick? I mean, I would

tell the doctor how I felt, but I would be blown off with " It is probably

just your hormones or depression, Dianne. You have a very busy life and

all women complain of these things. " What a load of baloney!

In any event, the depression did send me to the hospital five

times and each time the doctors noticed the low thyroid, but didn't do

anything. It was my psychiatrist who decided to check into this and

prescribed Armour instead of Synthroid, but he went through my family

doctor to do that. I no longer see the psychiatrist (he had moved to

another state) and my current doctor just doesn't listen to me where the

thyroid is concerned.

After starting Armour, everything got better and continued to

improve for the first six months. After that, the things that had taken a

longer time to show up were gradually improving, so I was not unhappy with

the results until about two years ago. My doctor does not understand that

I am really sick and tired of being sick and tired.

I will see what this other doctor thinks of all of this. BTW, I

have also found out that a DO rather than an MD is more likely to prescribe

Armour than Synthroid because they spend more time learning about how the

various body systems work rather than listening to the drug company reps

blurbs about how good the newest medications are. They new ones are the

most expensive and I won't take them.

Dianne

At 10:06 PM 6/14/05, you wrote:

>Oh I am so sorry, you must have had a rough time of it. As I look back, I

>really believe that I was undermedicated all those years on synthroid.

>

>I just hope that our sources will always be available. One of these days I

>am going to find a good doctor. There are not many in these neck of the

>woods.LOL

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