Guest guest Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 Thank you, , for your advice. You asked for the reference ranges on these: > fTSH 41 normal Borderline Low: 20-25 nIU/ml Normal: 26-85 nIU/ml Borderline High: 86-120 nIU/ml > fT4 .46 high Normal: 0.17-0.42 ng/dl > fT3 .48 normal Borderline Low: 0.21-0.27 pg/ml Normal: 0.28-1.10 pg/ml > TPO negative Normal: Negative Any help is greatly appreciated! Carolyn J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 Thank you, , for your advice. You asked for the reference ranges on these: > fTSH 41 normal Borderline Low: 20-25 nIU/ml Normal: 26-85 nIU/ml Borderline High: 86-120 nIU/ml > fT4 .46 high Normal: 0.17-0.42 ng/dl > fT3 .48 normal Borderline Low: 0.21-0.27 pg/ml Normal: 0.28-1.10 pg/ml > TPO negative Normal: Negative Any help is greatly appreciated! Carolyn J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 > > > Thank you, , for your advice. You asked for the reference ranges on > these: Your free T3 is too low (should be in upper 1/3 of range), but your free T4 is a bit high. T3 is the active form of thyroid hormone. You might benefit from selenium since it helps convert T4 to T3. Selenium supports the enzyme that converts T4 to T3. Some Armour would not be a bad idea either. You should start adrenal support before (or at least simultaneously with) thyroid support. I do not know what fTSH is (free TSH?). > > fTSH 41 normal > Borderline Low: 20-25 nIU/ml > Normal: 26-85 nIU/ml > Borderline High: 86-120 nIU/ml > > > fT4 .46 high > Normal: 0.17-0.42 ng/dl > > > fT3 .48 normal > Borderline Low: 0.21-0.27 pg/ml > Normal: 0.28-1.10 pg/ml > > > TPO negative > Normal: Negative > > > Any help is greatly appreciated! > > Carolyn J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 > Thank you, , for your advice. You asked for the reference ranges on > these: > > > fTSH 41 normal > Borderline Low: 20-25 nIU/ml > Normal: 26-85 nIU/ml > Borderline High: 86-120 nIU/ml > > > fT4 .46 high > Normal: 0.17-0.42 ng/dl > > > fT3 .48 normal > Borderline Low: 0.21-0.27 pg/ml > Normal: 0.28-1.10 pg/ml > > > TPO negative > Normal: Negative > > Any help is greatly appreciated! > > Carolyn J Carolyn, Are you on any kind of thyroid medication now? Taking a T4 product such as Synthroid would account for a high T4 and a low range T3. Your T3 is only at 30% of the range. Optimal levels are T4 in the upper half to upper third of the range and T3 at least in the upper third of range. Whether you're taking any thyroid or not, it appears you're not converting T4 to T3 very well. This could be due to poor liver health, as most of that conversion takes places in the liver. Selenium is also needed for the conversion, and supplementation is often needed in mercury toxic people because mercury disturbs the selenium. Your poor adrenal functioning could also be a factor, as cortisol is required to take the T3 into the cells. You should also have your serum ferritin tested, as a ferritin level below 70-90 would indicate you don't have sufficient iron for your body to use thyroid. Given your very low adrenal tests, you may find that improving your adrenals will do a lot to improve your thyroid functioning. Assuming you're not on a T4 thyroid, since your T4 is high, I'm not sure that taking even natural dessicated thyroid will help you, because you're not able to convert it to the active form of T3. If you are on T4 only thyroid such as Synthroid, then you will do much better by switching to natural thyroid hormone such as Armour, because it has about 20% T3 in it. So work on improving your adrenals and be sure you're taking selenium. I'm not sure I agree with your doctor/dentist about putting off dental revision until you're stronger. You're continually being poisoned by your amalgams, and sometimes they have to be removed before you're going to see any improvement. However, if you start taking a physiological dose of hydrocortisone, you may see a dramatic difference in how you feel. Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 > Thank you, , for your advice. You asked for the reference ranges on > these: > > > fTSH 41 normal > Borderline Low: 20-25 nIU/ml > Normal: 26-85 nIU/ml > Borderline High: 86-120 nIU/ml > > > fT4 .46 high > Normal: 0.17-0.42 ng/dl > > > fT3 .48 normal > Borderline Low: 0.21-0.27 pg/ml > Normal: 0.28-1.10 pg/ml > > > TPO negative > Normal: Negative > > Any help is greatly appreciated! > > Carolyn J Carolyn, Are you on any kind of thyroid medication now? Taking a T4 product such as Synthroid would account for a high T4 and a low range T3. Your T3 is only at 30% of the range. Optimal levels are T4 in the upper half to upper third of the range and T3 at least in the upper third of range. Whether you're taking any thyroid or not, it appears you're not converting T4 to T3 very well. This could be due to poor liver health, as most of that conversion takes places in the liver. Selenium is also needed for the conversion, and supplementation is often needed in mercury toxic people because mercury disturbs the selenium. Your poor adrenal functioning could also be a factor, as cortisol is required to take the T3 into the cells. You should also have your serum ferritin tested, as a ferritin level below 70-90 would indicate you don't have sufficient iron for your body to use thyroid. Given your very low adrenal tests, you may find that improving your adrenals will do a lot to improve your thyroid functioning. Assuming you're not on a T4 thyroid, since your T4 is high, I'm not sure that taking even natural dessicated thyroid will help you, because you're not able to convert it to the active form of T3. If you are on T4 only thyroid such as Synthroid, then you will do much better by switching to natural thyroid hormone such as Armour, because it has about 20% T3 in it. So work on improving your adrenals and be sure you're taking selenium. I'm not sure I agree with your doctor/dentist about putting off dental revision until you're stronger. You're continually being poisoned by your amalgams, and sometimes they have to be removed before you're going to see any improvement. However, if you start taking a physiological dose of hydrocortisone, you may see a dramatic difference in how you feel. Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 > > > I don't know how to tell if I am a fast or slow oxidizer. I have both of > Andy's book but the brain fog is so bad that I am having trouble diciphering > what I need out of them. Try looking at pg. 253 of Hair Test Interpretation. The Ca/P ratio on the bottom left of the DDI report is the relevant data. W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 > > > I don't know how to tell if I am a fast or slow oxidizer. I have both of > Andy's book but the brain fog is so bad that I am having trouble diciphering > what I need out of them. Try looking at pg. 253 of Hair Test Interpretation. The Ca/P ratio on the bottom left of the DDI report is the relevant data. W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 > > > I don't know how to tell if I am a fast or slow oxidizer. I have both of > Andy's book but the brain fog is so bad that I am having trouble diciphering > what I need out of them. Try looking at pg. 253 of Hair Test Interpretation. The Ca/P ratio on the bottom left of the DDI report is the relevant data. W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 > The Ca/P ratio on > the bottom left of the DDI report is the relevant data. I should have said to look on the bottom right. L. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 > The Ca/P ratio on > the bottom left of the DDI report is the relevant data. I should have said to look on the bottom right. L. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 > The Ca/P ratio on > the bottom left of the DDI report is the relevant data. I should have said to look on the bottom right. L. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 Wow - I am so confused. That last post was from an older hair test. My most recent one is not 11.5 but 1.86 (done with pubic hair). The first was done with scalp hair, but I color my hair. That is why I sent in a new one. Could there possibly be that much difference? Also, on my first one the Ca/Mg ratio was 5.91 (within the range of 4-30). My second test shows 3.47 (way low). I don't know what to believe now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 Wow - I am so confused. That last post was from an older hair test. My most recent one is not 11.5 but 1.86 (done with pubic hair). The first was done with scalp hair, but I color my hair. That is why I sent in a new one. Could there possibly be that much difference? Also, on my first one the Ca/Mg ratio was 5.91 (within the range of 4-30). My second test shows 3.47 (way low). I don't know what to believe now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 Wow - I am so confused. That last post was from an older hair test. My most recent one is not 11.5 but 1.86 (done with pubic hair). The first was done with scalp hair, but I color my hair. That is why I sent in a new one. Could there possibly be that much difference? Also, on my first one the Ca/Mg ratio was 5.91 (within the range of 4-30). My second test shows 3.47 (way low). I don't know what to believe now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 The first test was done last June (2005), and the later one was done just this April. It is strange, because some days I would say that I am more of a slow metabolizer, and other days I would be considered slow. Up until the last few weeks, I never perspired, was always freezing, and my temperature would be as low as 92. Now it is usually 95 or 96, and I am not quite as cold as I always was. When I had the first test taken, I was on HRT also, if that makes any difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 > > Wow - I am so confused. That last post was from an older hair test. My most > recent one is not 11.5 but 1.86 (done with pubic hair). The first was done > with scalp hair, but I color my hair. That is why I sent in a new one. Could > there possibly be that much difference? I think there could be a big difference. I would trust the second test more than the first. How far apart were they done? What is more consistent with your experience - do you feel better on the recommendations for slow metabolizers or fast? > Also, on my first one the Ca/Mg ratio was 5.91 (within the range of 4-30). > My second test shows 3.47 (way low). > > I don't know what to believe now. I would consider 3.47 to be just barely low rather than way low. And I would try recommendations for glucose intolerance and see if that helps or not. I would place my bet that the second test is more consistent with your experience. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 > > Wow - I am so confused. That last post was from an older hair test. My most > recent one is not 11.5 but 1.86 (done with pubic hair). The first was done > with scalp hair, but I color my hair. That is why I sent in a new one. Could > there possibly be that much difference? I think there could be a big difference. I would trust the second test more than the first. How far apart were they done? What is more consistent with your experience - do you feel better on the recommendations for slow metabolizers or fast? > Also, on my first one the Ca/Mg ratio was 5.91 (within the range of 4-30). > My second test shows 3.47 (way low). > > I don't know what to believe now. I would consider 3.47 to be just barely low rather than way low. And I would try recommendations for glucose intolerance and see if that helps or not. I would place my bet that the second test is more consistent with your experience. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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