Re: Re: Bush Unveiling Religious-Based Plan

January 30, 2001

I can only think of two reasons why they would stick the word " religion " on

a White House office:

(1) To try to render the First Amendment void;

(2) To provide comedians and satirists with a juicy target.

--wally

Re: Bush Unveiling Religious-Based Plan

> " White House office of religion-based community initiatives "

>

> here's the kicker, if it wasnt about religion, why isnt it called

> White House office of community initiative " ? why do we need to

> divert money to these groups and away from the secular

> infrastructure we already had?

>

> smaller government -bigger , richer, more powerful religion, was

> that the deal the minority of americans voted for?

>

January 30, 2001

I can only think of two reasons why they would stick the word " religion " on

a White House office:

(1) To try to render the First Amendment void;

(2) To provide comedians and satirists with a juicy target.

--wally

Re: Bush Unveiling Religious-Based Plan

> " White House office of religion-based community initiatives "

>

> here's the kicker, if it wasnt about religion, why isnt it called

> White House office of community initiative " ? why do we need to

> divert money to these groups and away from the secular

> infrastructure we already had?

>

> smaller government -bigger , richer, more powerful religion, was

> that the deal the minority of americans voted for?

>

January 30, 2001

I can only think of two reasons why they would stick the word " religion " on

a White House office:

(1) To try to render the First Amendment void;

(2) To provide comedians and satirists with a juicy target.

--wally

Re: Bush Unveiling Religious-Based Plan

> " White House office of religion-based community initiatives "

>

> here's the kicker, if it wasnt about religion, why isnt it called

> White House office of community initiative " ? why do we need to

> divert money to these groups and away from the secular

> infrastructure we already had?

>

> smaller government -bigger , richer, more powerful religion, was

> that the deal the minority of americans voted for?

>

January 30, 2001

NPR All Things Considered, TODAY

http://www.npr.org/programs/atc/

Re: Bush Unveiling Religious-Based Plan

>

> > " White House office of religion-based community initiatives "

> >

> > here's the kicker, if it wasnt about religion, why isnt it called

> > White House office of community initiative " ? why do we need to

> > divert money to these groups and away from the secular

> > infrastructure we already had?

> >

> > smaller government -bigger , richer, more powerful religion, was

> > that the deal the minority of americans voted for?

> >

>

January 30, 2001

NPR All Things Considered, TODAY

http://www.npr.org/programs/atc/

Re: Bush Unveiling Religious-Based Plan

>

> > " White House office of religion-based community initiatives "

> >

> > here's the kicker, if it wasnt about religion, why isnt it called

> > White House office of community initiative " ? why do we need to

> > divert money to these groups and away from the secular

> > infrastructure we already had?

> >

> > smaller government -bigger , richer, more powerful religion, was

> > that the deal the minority of americans voted for?

> >

>

January 30, 2001

NPR All Things Considered, TODAY

http://www.npr.org/programs/atc/

Re: Bush Unveiling Religious-Based Plan

>

> > " White House office of religion-based community initiatives "

> >

> > here's the kicker, if it wasnt about religion, why isnt it called

> > White House office of community initiative " ? why do we need to

> > divert money to these groups and away from the secular

> > infrastructure we already had?

> >

> > smaller government -bigger , richer, more powerful religion, was

> > that the deal the minority of americans voted for?

> >

>

January 30, 2001

ROFL

Marcoot You're not all bad after all! ;-)

Re: Bush Unveiling Religious-Based Plan

> " White House office of religion-based community initiatives "

>

> here's the kicker, if it wasnt about religion, why isnt it called

> White House office of community initiative " ? why do we need to

> divert money to these groups and away from the secular

> infrastructure we already had?

>

> smaller government -bigger , richer, more powerful religion, was

> that the deal the minority of americans voted for?

>

January 30, 2001

ROFL

Marcoot You're not all bad after all! ;-)

Re: Bush Unveiling Religious-Based Plan

> " White House office of religion-based community initiatives "

>

> here's the kicker, if it wasnt about religion, why isnt it called

> White House office of community initiative " ? why do we need to

> divert money to these groups and away from the secular

> infrastructure we already had?

>

> smaller government -bigger , richer, more powerful religion, was

> that the deal the minority of americans voted for?

>

February 2, 2001

You ask, " how in literally Holy Hell is better to line the pockets of

RELIGIOUS 'bureaucrats' rather than secular ones? "

I ask, what fucking difference does it make? I don't give a rat's ass who

gets the money that is stolen from me. I thinking it's only fitting that

the church and the state share the spoils, since it's the faith of the

assholes like you in both of those elements of tyranny that cause it's

persistence.

Re: Bush Unveiling Religious-Based Plan

> Quite.

>

> For those who dont like Government 'bureaucrats', how in literally

> Holy Hell is better to line the pockets of RELIGIOUS 'bureaucrats'

> rather than secular ones? Surely arbitrary favoritism of a

> particular interest is precisely the kind of thing that Small govt

> folks would want to avoid. Unless their both Xtian I guess!

>

> P.

>

> > " White House office of religion-based community initiatives "

> >

> > here's the kicker, if it wasnt about religion, why isnt it called

> > White House office of community initiative " ? why do we need to

> > divert money to these groups and away from the secular

> > infrastructure we already had?

> >

> > smaller government -bigger , richer, more powerful religion, was

> > that the deal the minority of americans voted for?

>

February 2, 2001

You ask, " how in literally Holy Hell is better to line the pockets of

RELIGIOUS 'bureaucrats' rather than secular ones? "

I ask, what fucking difference does it make? I don't give a rat's ass who

gets the money that is stolen from me. I thinking it's only fitting that

the church and the state share the spoils, since it's the faith of the

assholes like you in both of those elements of tyranny that cause it's

persistence.

Re: Bush Unveiling Religious-Based Plan

> Quite.

>

> For those who dont like Government 'bureaucrats', how in literally

> Holy Hell is better to line the pockets of RELIGIOUS 'bureaucrats'

> rather than secular ones? Surely arbitrary favoritism of a

> particular interest is precisely the kind of thing that Small govt

> folks would want to avoid. Unless their both Xtian I guess!

>

> P.

>

> > " White House office of religion-based community initiatives "

> >

> > here's the kicker, if it wasnt about religion, why isnt it called

> > White House office of community initiative " ? why do we need to

> > divert money to these groups and away from the secular

> > infrastructure we already had?

> >

> > smaller government -bigger , richer, more powerful religion, was

> > that the deal the minority of americans voted for?

>

February 2, 2001

You ask, " how in literally Holy Hell is better to line the pockets of

RELIGIOUS 'bureaucrats' rather than secular ones? "

I ask, what fucking difference does it make? I don't give a rat's ass who

gets the money that is stolen from me. I thinking it's only fitting that

the church and the state share the spoils, since it's the faith of the

assholes like you in both of those elements of tyranny that cause it's

persistence.

Re: Bush Unveiling Religious-Based Plan

> Quite.

>

> For those who dont like Government 'bureaucrats', how in literally

> Holy Hell is better to line the pockets of RELIGIOUS 'bureaucrats'

> rather than secular ones? Surely arbitrary favoritism of a

> particular interest is precisely the kind of thing that Small govt

> folks would want to avoid. Unless their both Xtian I guess!

>

> P.

>

> > " White House office of religion-based community initiatives "

> >

> > here's the kicker, if it wasnt about religion, why isnt it called

> > White House office of community initiative " ? why do we need to

> > divert money to these groups and away from the secular

> > infrastructure we already had?

> >

> > smaller government -bigger , richer, more powerful religion, was

> > that the deal the minority of americans voted for?

>

February 2, 2001

You have a disgustingly high amount of faith in government you ass.

Don't try to lie or squirm or act like I was only talking about faith in

God.

It doesn't matter to me, what happens to my stolen goods. Either way,

what is duly mine is not used as I would use it. I find it humorous that

anyone would think I should have a right to say how the money stolen from

gets spent - that is how backwards these thieves are. Whether a child

raping Catholic priest gets the money or a child raping United Way VP gets

the money or a child raping school teacher gets the money makes no

difference to me. Its my money, taken from me by the use of force and given

to someone else who is undeserving, who just knows the right person. It

just seems that at this time the right person to know is GW and a bunch of

religious scumbags know him instead of a bunch of self proclaimed " liberals "

aka communist scumbags knowing Clinton.

Church and State are a tag team that have controlled human beings since

their earliest inceptions. Each requires faith to function and to continue,

and as long as people give them that faith and believe that either one or

both will work for them, they will continue to control the people and steal

from the people. I don't want to be controlled by the motherfuckers who run

either the Church or the State, and you aren't helping me one bit you

goddamn sonnovabitch.

The flaw in your brain is thinking that government can work. You

dumbfuck, government is the same as religion, run by power-hungry thieves.

It controls men, it steals their money (even though some don't admit

it's theft). Which am I defining? BOTH!

And yes you do hit a fucking nerve when you talk about what is being

stolen from me, to give to the likes of you. And you hit a nerve every time

you mention stealing from me for whatever cause you think is right. To you

total taxation is communism, to me undue taxation is communism and we have

had undue taxation for over 30 years. You are a communist, talking about

how best to spend my money, your loot.

Re: Bush Unveiling Religious-Based Plan

> Rather uncool Mr coolguy, I would say, and a pretty desperate final

> comment. It matters a great deal whether money is spent ion good

> thiongs or superstition. " only fitting " indeed. The only thing fitting

> is the Compassionate Conservatives' tools up America' ass. I'm an

> agnostic pal. Aint my faith thats shafting you. It's your political

> bedmates. Hope the earth moves for you.

>

> > > > " White House office of religion-based community initiatives "

> > > >

> > > > here's the kicker, if it wasnt about religion, why isnt it

> called

> > > > White House office of community initiative " ? why do we need to

> > > > divert money to these groups and away from the secular

> > > > infrastructure we already had?

> > > >

> > > > smaller government -bigger , richer, more powerful religion, was

> > > > that the deal the minority of americans voted for?

> > >

>

February 2, 2001