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Tuesday, January 30, 2001, 12:37:37 AM, you wrote:

> Thought some of you might find this of interest. And yes I'm all for

> leaving Yahoo/Egroups just in case anyone wasn't aware of my position on

> this.

> http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/16447.html

I remember when Yahoo brought their copyright rules in- I read about

this on photography-related lists where a number of professional

photographers were expressing concern. It mean that anyone who

displayed their images on a Yahoo site could end up with Yahoo

automatically owning the copyright to them, plus the accompanying

text! Since this list now appears on a Yahoo site the same thing could

apply. I think we need to be somewhere else.

Joe B.

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Tuesday, January 30, 2001, 12:37:37 AM, you wrote:

> Thought some of you might find this of interest. And yes I'm all for

> leaving Yahoo/Egroups just in case anyone wasn't aware of my position on

> this.

> http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/16447.html

I remember when Yahoo brought their copyright rules in- I read about

this on photography-related lists where a number of professional

photographers were expressing concern. It mean that anyone who

displayed their images on a Yahoo site could end up with Yahoo

automatically owning the copyright to them, plus the accompanying

text! Since this list now appears on a Yahoo site the same thing could

apply. I think we need to be somewhere else.

Joe B.

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Tuesday, January 30, 2001, 12:37:37 AM, you wrote:

> Thought some of you might find this of interest. And yes I'm all for

> leaving Yahoo/Egroups just in case anyone wasn't aware of my position on

> this.

> http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/16447.html

I remember when Yahoo brought their copyright rules in- I read about

this on photography-related lists where a number of professional

photographers were expressing concern. It mean that anyone who

displayed their images on a Yahoo site could end up with Yahoo

automatically owning the copyright to them, plus the accompanying

text! Since this list now appears on a Yahoo site the same thing could

apply. I think we need to be somewhere else.

Joe B.

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That article refers to us as eGroupers. Kinda scary.

Re: Yahoo and Egroups - Ken

> Tuesday, January 30, 2001, 12:37:37 AM, you wrote:

>

> > Thought some of you might find this of interest. And yes I'm all for

> > leaving Yahoo/Egroups just in case anyone wasn't aware of my position on

> > this.

>

> > http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/16447.html

>

>

> I remember when Yahoo brought their copyright rules in- I read about

> this on photography-related lists where a number of professional

> photographers were expressing concern. It mean that anyone who

> displayed their images on a Yahoo site could end up with Yahoo

> automatically owning the copyright to them, plus the accompanying

> text! Since this list now appears on a Yahoo site the same thing could

> apply. I think we need to be somewhere else.

>

> Joe B.

>

>

>

>

>

>

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This seems to be a major ongoing issue right now with many former egroups

now yahoo groups. My major concern is the privacy of the individuals on

this list. (to include mine) Most (I think) who make their way to this list

expect some type of privacy which I don't feel they can expect with yahoo.

It's just too darn commercial. Your privacy isn't really guaranteed and

it's far more likely to profile it's users and later change it's privacy

policy to make a profit from those profiles at the expense of the

individuals on this list.

By now some of you may think I'm paranoid but I'm telling you that if the

trend continues it will become common practice for prospective employers

(among others) to start conducting internet searches on their prospective

employees and if it becomes profitable to provide these people with

information on you I guarantee you many portal sites will figure out a way

to do so. And if Yahoo supposedly owns the information what's to stop them

from doing so? The only thing holding many back is the prospect of a

privacy law being passed but even then what happens if it's not

retro-active? Even if yahoo doesn't own the information they make it far to

easy for individuals to search for it by virtue of it's popularity. Egroups

was appealing because in order to find that group you had to have a vested

interest in the subject matter. With yahoo a few keywords in their search

engine and years worth of posting history is public reference material.

[Not good at all]

While I'm not personally ashamed of my past alcohol abuse it's not something

I want just anyone knowing about either.

I believe the yahoo Egroup should be left active but only to point others to

the new location and so that someone else doesn't take it over for their own

purposes. Namely steppers.

> Re: Yahoo and Egroups - Ken

>

>

>Tuesday, January 30, 2001, 12:37:37 AM, you wrote:

>

>> Thought some of you might find this of interest. And yes I'm all for

>> leaving Yahoo/Egroups just in case anyone wasn't aware of my position on

>> this.

>

>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/16447.html

>

>

>I remember when Yahoo brought their copyright rules in- I read about

>this on photography-related lists where a number of professional

>photographers were expressing concern. It mean that anyone who

>displayed their images on a Yahoo site could end up with Yahoo

>automatically owning the copyright to them, plus the accompanying

>text! Since this list now appears on a Yahoo site the same thing could

>apply. I think we need to be somewhere else.

>

>Joe B.

>

>

>

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This seems to be a major ongoing issue right now with many former egroups

now yahoo groups. My major concern is the privacy of the individuals on

this list. (to include mine) Most (I think) who make their way to this list

expect some type of privacy which I don't feel they can expect with yahoo.

It's just too darn commercial. Your privacy isn't really guaranteed and

it's far more likely to profile it's users and later change it's privacy

policy to make a profit from those profiles at the expense of the

individuals on this list.

By now some of you may think I'm paranoid but I'm telling you that if the

trend continues it will become common practice for prospective employers

(among others) to start conducting internet searches on their prospective

employees and if it becomes profitable to provide these people with

information on you I guarantee you many portal sites will figure out a way

to do so. And if Yahoo supposedly owns the information what's to stop them

from doing so? The only thing holding many back is the prospect of a

privacy law being passed but even then what happens if it's not

retro-active? Even if yahoo doesn't own the information they make it far to

easy for individuals to search for it by virtue of it's popularity. Egroups

was appealing because in order to find that group you had to have a vested

interest in the subject matter. With yahoo a few keywords in their search

engine and years worth of posting history is public reference material.

[Not good at all]

While I'm not personally ashamed of my past alcohol abuse it's not something

I want just anyone knowing about either.

I believe the yahoo Egroup should be left active but only to point others to

the new location and so that someone else doesn't take it over for their own

purposes. Namely steppers.

> Re: Yahoo and Egroups - Ken

>

>

>Tuesday, January 30, 2001, 12:37:37 AM, you wrote:

>

>> Thought some of you might find this of interest. And yes I'm all for

>> leaving Yahoo/Egroups just in case anyone wasn't aware of my position on

>> this.

>

>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/16447.html

>

>

>I remember when Yahoo brought their copyright rules in- I read about

>this on photography-related lists where a number of professional

>photographers were expressing concern. It mean that anyone who

>displayed their images on a Yahoo site could end up with Yahoo

>automatically owning the copyright to them, plus the accompanying

>text! Since this list now appears on a Yahoo site the same thing could

>apply. I think we need to be somewhere else.

>

>Joe B.

>

>

>

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This seems to be a major ongoing issue right now with many former egroups

now yahoo groups. My major concern is the privacy of the individuals on

this list. (to include mine) Most (I think) who make their way to this list

expect some type of privacy which I don't feel they can expect with yahoo.

It's just too darn commercial. Your privacy isn't really guaranteed and

it's far more likely to profile it's users and later change it's privacy

policy to make a profit from those profiles at the expense of the

individuals on this list.

By now some of you may think I'm paranoid but I'm telling you that if the

trend continues it will become common practice for prospective employers

(among others) to start conducting internet searches on their prospective

employees and if it becomes profitable to provide these people with

information on you I guarantee you many portal sites will figure out a way

to do so. And if Yahoo supposedly owns the information what's to stop them

from doing so? The only thing holding many back is the prospect of a

privacy law being passed but even then what happens if it's not

retro-active? Even if yahoo doesn't own the information they make it far to

easy for individuals to search for it by virtue of it's popularity. Egroups

was appealing because in order to find that group you had to have a vested

interest in the subject matter. With yahoo a few keywords in their search

engine and years worth of posting history is public reference material.

[Not good at all]

While I'm not personally ashamed of my past alcohol abuse it's not something

I want just anyone knowing about either.

I believe the yahoo Egroup should be left active but only to point others to

the new location and so that someone else doesn't take it over for their own

purposes. Namely steppers.

> Re: Yahoo and Egroups - Ken

>

>

>Tuesday, January 30, 2001, 12:37:37 AM, you wrote:

>

>> Thought some of you might find this of interest. And yes I'm all for

>> leaving Yahoo/Egroups just in case anyone wasn't aware of my position on

>> this.

>

>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/16447.html

>

>

>I remember when Yahoo brought their copyright rules in- I read about

>this on photography-related lists where a number of professional

>photographers were expressing concern. It mean that anyone who

>displayed their images on a Yahoo site could end up with Yahoo

>automatically owning the copyright to them, plus the accompanying

>text! Since this list now appears on a Yahoo site the same thing could

>apply. I think we need to be somewhere else.

>

>Joe B.

>

>

>

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In a message dated 1/31/01 12:31:06 AM Pacific Standard Time,

arroyoh@... writes:

<< believe the yahoo Egroup should be left active but only to point others to

the new location and so that someone else doesn't take it over for their own

purposes. Namely steppers. >>

I agree. Whatever we have to do to get moved, I'm for it. Yahoo sucks.

Piper.

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