Re: peritoneal dialysis canula insertion

[Guest guest]

I'm due into hospital on Monday 8th March with insertion on Thu 11th hopefully

out the next day fingers crossed X. They have told me the same, 2 weeks after

surgery after time to heal then its time for training.

, were you conscious of the tube all the time, was it uncomfortable? how

did it feel to sleep on it? I sleep mostly on my front or left side do you think

asking for the exit site to be on my right side would be a good idea? and lastly

hygiene, with it being so close to the pelvic area (me blushes) do you have to

shave that area at all? sorry if thats a bit personal dint answer that bit if

you dont want to share that bit.

Mark

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Well glad I could be of help--when are you planning on starting the

PD? I know I started about 2 weeks after the surgery.

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I'm due into hospital on Monday 8th March with insertion on Thu 11th hopefully

out the next day fingers crossed X. They have told me the same, 2 weeks after

surgery after time to heal then its time for training.

, were you conscious of the tube all the time, was it uncomfortable? how

did it feel to sleep on it? I sleep mostly on my front or left side do you think

asking for the exit site to be on my right side would be a good idea? and lastly

hygiene, with it being so close to the pelvic area (me blushes) do you have to

shave that area at all? sorry if thats a bit personal dint answer that bit if

you dont want to share that bit.

Mark

wrote:

Well glad I could be of help--when are you planning on starting the

PD? I know I started about 2 weeks after the surgery.

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I'm due into hospital on Monday 8th March with insertion on Thu 11th hopefully

out the next day fingers crossed X. They have told me the same, 2 weeks after

surgery after time to heal then its time for training.

, were you conscious of the tube all the time, was it uncomfortable? how

did it feel to sleep on it? I sleep mostly on my front or left side do you think

asking for the exit site to be on my right side would be a good idea? and lastly

hygiene, with it being so close to the pelvic area (me blushes) do you have to

shave that area at all? sorry if thats a bit personal dint answer that bit if

you dont want to share that bit.

Mark

wrote:

Well glad I could be of help--when are you planning on starting the

PD? I know I started about 2 weeks after the surgery.

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Mark-

The tube at first, feels kind of strange. But after about a week,

you get used to it. I was still aware of it being there, but it was

just like another part of my body. Sometimes I would completely

forget it was there, because PD just became a part of my daily

life. You really shouldn't sleep ON the tube, especially if you are

using the cycler, but they discourage that even with the manual

exchanges because they are afraid it will pull at the tube and the

site area could be torn. And of course, any sort of torn area

around the site can cause an infection--mainly peritonitis. I'd

think that you could ask for it to be put on the right side, but of

course the surgeon will see what is best for your body. Most of

them are placed on the left side.

Hygiene--me being female, I did not have to shave the area, because

it was placed slightly above it. I have a longer torso, that's

probably why my site was a bit higher. Who knows, if you feel the

need to shave it, I'd say you aren't hurting anything by doing so.

Good luck with the surgery, it's really not that bad-a piece of cake

in my book. Let us know how it went!

> Well glad I could be of help--when are you planning on starting

the

> PD? I know I started about 2 weeks after the surgery.

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Mark-

The tube at first, feels kind of strange. But after about a week,

you get used to it. I was still aware of it being there, but it was

just like another part of my body. Sometimes I would completely

forget it was there, because PD just became a part of my daily

life. You really shouldn't sleep ON the tube, especially if you are

using the cycler, but they discourage that even with the manual

exchanges because they are afraid it will pull at the tube and the

site area could be torn. And of course, any sort of torn area

around the site can cause an infection--mainly peritonitis. I'd

think that you could ask for it to be put on the right side, but of

course the surgeon will see what is best for your body. Most of

them are placed on the left side.

Hygiene--me being female, I did not have to shave the area, because

it was placed slightly above it. I have a longer torso, that's

probably why my site was a bit higher. Who knows, if you feel the

need to shave it, I'd say you aren't hurting anything by doing so.

Good luck with the surgery, it's really not that bad-a piece of cake

in my book. Let us know how it went!

> Well glad I could be of help--when are you planning on starting

the

> PD? I know I started about 2 weeks after the surgery.

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Mark good luck with your surgery. You will be in my thoughts and I'll be

sending as much healing energy your way as I can muster. I'd love to

hear how things go when you are able to post again...if I get to the

dialysis point I'm most likely going with PD just due to where I live and

how far I'd have to go for HD.

Amy

[Guest guest]

Mark good luck with your surgery. You will be in my thoughts and I'll be

sending as much healing energy your way as I can muster. I'd love to

hear how things go when you are able to post again...if I get to the

dialysis point I'm most likely going with PD just due to where I live and

how far I'd have to go for HD.

Amy

[Guest guest]

Mark good luck with your surgery. You will be in my thoughts and I'll be

sending as much healing energy your way as I can muster. I'd love to

hear how things go when you are able to post again...if I get to the

dialysis point I'm most likely going with PD just due to where I live and

how far I'd have to go for HD.

Amy

[Guest guest]

Mark,

I take that back about what I said before about not shaving the

area. I would do it if I were you just because of the fact that you

have to wear the bandages over the tubing, and they tend to be very

sticky and could rip some of the hair..which would definitely

hurt Hope that helps.

> Well glad I could be of help--when are you planning on starting

the

> PD? I know I started about 2 weeks after the surgery.

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Thanks , and Amy, I do appreciate your support and advice. talk to

you again hopefully this time next week

Mark

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Thanks , and Amy, I do appreciate your support and advice. talk to

you again hopefully this time next week

Mark

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Thanks , and Amy, I do appreciate your support and advice. talk to

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Mark

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Hello Guys, I'm back and tubed up. The experience was far worse than I imagined.

I must say I enjoyed the company of my fellow ward mates, in one corner was a

wonderful 80 year old partially sighted man with a quick wit and great stories

to tell, he could name all the local football teams from the 1930's onwards but

it was his awe inspiring war stories he had to tell, he was in the Royal Navy

been all around the world had wonderful experiences to tell of his stays in

various country's but his most memorable story was his being on HMS Cumberland

(I think) one of the ships that sunk Bismark. He had been on three ships sunk by

U-Boats and lived to tell the tale... oh he had this imaginary dog, a cross jack

Russel / Mastiff. Whenever a high and mighty consultant came in, as he was

leaving Les would shout out 'watch out for my dog' of course the consultant

would look around alarmed, realize hes been 'had' and smile

The nurses all loved him, whenever they asked him how he was he would say ' the

foods great, the company is fantastic but the sex is lousy' always made the

whole ward laugh... I could go on about the others but I wont except to say 3

off them were already on PD and it was helpful them giving me advice and letting

me watch the process..

Anyway my experience was a painful one. Before the procedure they gave me these

sexy string underpants to wear which was embarrasing...

I was wheeled into the operating room, striped down to my see through undies,

lay there for a few minutes praying for someone to throw something over me then

they scrubbed up threw a load of sterile towels on me and told me to lay still,

dint move...

They marked up where I wanted the canula to come out which right of my belly

button, and worked a local anesthetic down through my stomach, I only had 1 cm

of fat so that was quickly cut through then it was a combination of poking their

way through with fingers and a blunt instrument to get through my rather thick

abdominal muscle as they called it, the consultant made me laugh on occasion

telling of her painful dentist appointment the day before and it was hilarious

to get a compliment about my 6 pack from a consultant as shes gouging her way

through it ( or it was funny at the time at least)..

Still wasn't hurting the anesthetic was doing its job, now they diverted from

the procedure on rather than just throw the canula in as they normally would at

this point they instead stuck a camera in to have a look around, makes sense I

suppose but this is where it started to hurt, because they could not see

anything they had to blow my peritoneal cavity up. They used a had pump to be

pumped up 50 times when they got to 30 I was in shear agony but the pain was in

my shoulders and with each pump the pain intensified, I had now lay there for 75

minutes and was now extremely hot, agitated and near to passing out with the

heat and pain, I told them this and noticed my voice was weak and slurred, they

decide to end it, throw the canula in and stitch me up......

All over, back on the ward now and complaining about the pain which is still

intense, they tell me its 'deferred pain', some patients get it most dint and it

will go away in time.. Well I'm home now and after a week its now gone (relief)

I'm to start my training next Monday and am looking forward to it, Ive already

experienced drain pain and its weird walking around with fluid sloshing away in

me. It took a week before I could walk without feeling pain in my chest,

possibly I'm now getting used to the fluid hitting my diaphragm when I walk so

its not so painful any more

Anyway sorry for the long story my fingers are getting sore and i need the loo..

tata4now

Mark

Mark Rowe wrote:

Thanks , and Amy, I do appreciate your support and advice. talk to

you again hopefully this time next week

Mark

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Hello Guys, I'm back and tubed up. The experience was far worse than I imagined.

I must say I enjoyed the company of my fellow ward mates, in one corner was a

wonderful 80 year old partially sighted man with a quick wit and great stories

to tell, he could name all the local football teams from the 1930's onwards but

it was his awe inspiring war stories he had to tell, he was in the Royal Navy

been all around the world had wonderful experiences to tell of his stays in

various country's but his most memorable story was his being on HMS Cumberland

(I think) one of the ships that sunk Bismark. He had been on three ships sunk by

U-Boats and lived to tell the tale... oh he had this imaginary dog, a cross jack

Russel / Mastiff. Whenever a high and mighty consultant came in, as he was

leaving Les would shout out 'watch out for my dog' of course the consultant

would look around alarmed, realize hes been 'had' and smile

The nurses all loved him, whenever they asked him how he was he would say ' the

foods great, the company is fantastic but the sex is lousy' always made the

whole ward laugh... I could go on about the others but I wont except to say 3

off them were already on PD and it was helpful them giving me advice and letting

me watch the process..

Anyway my experience was a painful one. Before the procedure they gave me these

sexy string underpants to wear which was embarrasing...

I was wheeled into the operating room, striped down to my see through undies,

lay there for a few minutes praying for someone to throw something over me then

they scrubbed up threw a load of sterile towels on me and told me to lay still,

dint move...

They marked up where I wanted the canula to come out which right of my belly

button, and worked a local anesthetic down through my stomach, I only had 1 cm

of fat so that was quickly cut through then it was a combination of poking their

way through with fingers and a blunt instrument to get through my rather thick

abdominal muscle as they called it, the consultant made me laugh on occasion

telling of her painful dentist appointment the day before and it was hilarious

to get a compliment about my 6 pack from a consultant as shes gouging her way

through it ( or it was funny at the time at least)..

Still wasn't hurting the anesthetic was doing its job, now they diverted from

the procedure on rather than just throw the canula in as they normally would at

this point they instead stuck a camera in to have a look around, makes sense I

suppose but this is where it started to hurt, because they could not see

anything they had to blow my peritoneal cavity up. They used a had pump to be

pumped up 50 times when they got to 30 I was in shear agony but the pain was in

my shoulders and with each pump the pain intensified, I had now lay there for 75

minutes and was now extremely hot, agitated and near to passing out with the

heat and pain, I told them this and noticed my voice was weak and slurred, they

decide to end it, throw the canula in and stitch me up......

All over, back on the ward now and complaining about the pain which is still

intense, they tell me its 'deferred pain', some patients get it most dint and it

will go away in time.. Well I'm home now and after a week its now gone (relief)

I'm to start my training next Monday and am looking forward to it, Ive already

experienced drain pain and its weird walking around with fluid sloshing away in

me. It took a week before I could walk without feeling pain in my chest,

possibly I'm now getting used to the fluid hitting my diaphragm when I walk so

its not so painful any more

Anyway sorry for the long story my fingers are getting sore and i need the loo..

tata4now

Mark

Mark Rowe wrote:

Thanks , and Amy, I do appreciate your support and advice. talk to

you again hopefully this time next week

Mark

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[Guest guest]

Hello Guys, I'm back and tubed up. The experience was far worse than I imagined.

I must say I enjoyed the company of my fellow ward mates, in one corner was a

wonderful 80 year old partially sighted man with a quick wit and great stories

to tell, he could name all the local football teams from the 1930's onwards but

it was his awe inspiring war stories he had to tell, he was in the Royal Navy

been all around the world had wonderful experiences to tell of his stays in

various country's but his most memorable story was his being on HMS Cumberland

(I think) one of the ships that sunk Bismark. He had been on three ships sunk by

U-Boats and lived to tell the tale... oh he had this imaginary dog, a cross jack

Russel / Mastiff. Whenever a high and mighty consultant came in, as he was

leaving Les would shout out 'watch out for my dog' of course the consultant

would look around alarmed, realize hes been 'had' and smile

The nurses all loved him, whenever they asked him how he was he would say ' the

foods great, the company is fantastic but the sex is lousy' always made the

whole ward laugh... I could go on about the others but I wont except to say 3

off them were already on PD and it was helpful them giving me advice and letting

me watch the process..

Anyway my experience was a painful one. Before the procedure they gave me these

sexy string underpants to wear which was embarrasing...

I was wheeled into the operating room, striped down to my see through undies,

lay there for a few minutes praying for someone to throw something over me then

they scrubbed up threw a load of sterile towels on me and told me to lay still,

dint move...

They marked up where I wanted the canula to come out which right of my belly

button, and worked a local anesthetic down through my stomach, I only had 1 cm

of fat so that was quickly cut through then it was a combination of poking their

way through with fingers and a blunt instrument to get through my rather thick

abdominal muscle as they called it, the consultant made me laugh on occasion

telling of her painful dentist appointment the day before and it was hilarious

to get a compliment about my 6 pack from a consultant as shes gouging her way

through it ( or it was funny at the time at least)..

Still wasn't hurting the anesthetic was doing its job, now they diverted from

the procedure on rather than just throw the canula in as they normally would at

this point they instead stuck a camera in to have a look around, makes sense I

suppose but this is where it started to hurt, because they could not see

anything they had to blow my peritoneal cavity up. They used a had pump to be

pumped up 50 times when they got to 30 I was in shear agony but the pain was in

my shoulders and with each pump the pain intensified, I had now lay there for 75

minutes and was now extremely hot, agitated and near to passing out with the

heat and pain, I told them this and noticed my voice was weak and slurred, they

decide to end it, throw the canula in and stitch me up......

All over, back on the ward now and complaining about the pain which is still

intense, they tell me its 'deferred pain', some patients get it most dint and it

will go away in time.. Well I'm home now and after a week its now gone (relief)

I'm to start my training next Monday and am looking forward to it, Ive already

experienced drain pain and its weird walking around with fluid sloshing away in

me. It took a week before I could walk without feeling pain in my chest,

possibly I'm now getting used to the fluid hitting my diaphragm when I walk so

its not so painful any more

Anyway sorry for the long story my fingers are getting sore and i need the loo..

tata4now

Mark

Mark Rowe wrote:

Thanks , and Amy, I do appreciate your support and advice. talk to

you again hopefully this time next week

Mark

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[Guest guest]

Hi Mark,

What an ordeal for you! I am glad the pain has subsided for you and wish you

all the best as you start PD. From all I hear, you will feel much better once

you start.

I am glad at least you had entertainment in your ward while you were

" incarcerated " .

[Guest guest]

Man, Mark, I'm sorry that your experience was such a painful one!

But I know for a fact that once you start the PD, you will have a

lot more energy and generally just feel better. The eating is not

as restricted also. Keep us updated on how your PD is going!

> Hi Mark,

>

> What an ordeal for you! I am glad the pain has subsided for you

and wish you all the best as you start PD. From all I hear, you

will feel much better once you start.

>

> I am glad at least you had entertainment in your ward while you

were " incarcerated " .

>

>

[Guest guest]

Man, Mark, I'm sorry that your experience was such a painful one!

But I know for a fact that once you start the PD, you will have a

lot more energy and generally just feel better. The eating is not

as restricted also. Keep us updated on how your PD is going!

> Hi Mark,

>

> What an ordeal for you! I am glad the pain has subsided for you

and wish you all the best as you start PD. From all I hear, you

will feel much better once you start.

>

> I am glad at least you had entertainment in your ward while you

were " incarcerated " .

>

>

[Guest guest]

Man, Mark, I'm sorry that your experience was such a painful one!

But I know for a fact that once you start the PD, you will have a

lot more energy and generally just feel better. The eating is not

as restricted also. Keep us updated on how your PD is going!

> Hi Mark,

>

> What an ordeal for you! I am glad the pain has subsided for you

and wish you all the best as you start PD. From all I hear, you

will feel much better once you start.

>

> I am glad at least you had entertainment in your ward while you

were " incarcerated " .

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Mark,

I enjoyed reading about your canula insertion. I'm sorry that the

experience was painful though. Ouch, something that I don't really like to

hear since this is the direction I am considering when the time comes. I

wasn't really sure though if the surgery was more painful or the sexy string

underpants.

When using the gas to extend your abdomen it does and can be painful. It

many times is more painful than the after-pain from the actual surgery.

Keep us posted on your training and how you're doing. You're in my

thoughts...

Connie

Re: Re: peritoneal dialysis canula insertion

Hello Guys, I'm back and tubed up. The experience was far worse than I

imagined. I must say I enjoyed the company of my fellow ward mates, in one

corner was a wonderful 80 year old partially sighted man with a quick wit

and great stories to tell, he could name all the local football teams from

the 1930's onwards but it was his awe inspiring war stories he had to tell,

he was in the Royal Navy been all around the world had wonderful experiences

to tell of his stays in various country's but his most memorable story was

his being on HMS Cumberland (I think) one of the ships that sunk Bismark. He

had been on three ships sunk by U-Boats and lived to tell the tale... oh he

had this imaginary dog, a cross jack Russel / Mastiff. Whenever a high and

mighty consultant came in, as he was leaving Les would shout out 'watch out

for my dog' of course the consultant would look around alarmed, realize hes

been 'had' and smile

The nurses all loved him, whenever they asked him how he was he would say

' the foods great, the company is fantastic but the sex is lousy' always

made the whole ward laugh... I could go on about the others but I wont

except to say 3 off them were already on PD and it was helpful them giving

me advice and letting me watch the process..

Anyway my experience was a painful one. Before the procedure they gave me

these sexy string underpants to wear which was embarrasing...

I was wheeled into the operating room, striped down to my see through

undies, lay there for a few minutes praying for someone to throw something

over me then they scrubbed up threw a load of sterile towels on me and told

me to lay still, dint move...

They marked up where I wanted the canula to come out which right of my

belly button, and worked a local anesthetic down through my stomach, I only

had 1 cm of fat so that was quickly cut through then it was a combination of

poking their way through with fingers and a blunt instrument to get through

my rather thick abdominal muscle as they called it, the consultant made me

laugh on occasion telling of her painful dentist appointment the day before

and it was hilarious to get a compliment about my 6 pack from a consultant

as shes gouging her way through it ( or it was funny at the time at

least)..

Still wasn't hurting the anesthetic was doing its job, now they diverted

from the procedure on rather than just throw the canula in as they normally

would at this point they instead stuck a camera in to have a look around,

makes sense I suppose but this is where it started to hurt, because they

could not see anything they had to blow my peritoneal cavity up. They used a

had pump to be pumped up 50 times when they got to 30 I was in shear agony

but the pain was in my shoulders and with each pump the pain intensified, I

had now lay there for 75 minutes and was now extremely hot, agitated and

near to passing out with the heat and pain, I told them this and noticed my

voice was weak and slurred, they decide to end it, throw the canula in and

stitch me up......

All over, back on the ward now and complaining about the pain which is

still intense, they tell me its 'deferred pain', some patients get it most

dint and it will go away in time.. Well I'm home now and after a week its

now gone (relief) I'm to start my training next Monday and am looking

forward to it, Ive already experienced drain pain and its weird walking

around with fluid sloshing away in me. It took a week before I could walk

without feeling pain in my chest, possibly I'm now getting used to the fluid

hitting my diaphragm when I walk so its not so painful any more

Anyway sorry for the long story my fingers are getting sore and i need the

loo..

tata4now

Mark

Mark Rowe wrote:

Thanks , and Amy, I do appreciate your support and advice.

talk to you again hopefully this time next week

Mark

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Hi Mark,

I enjoyed reading about your canula insertion. I'm sorry that the

experience was painful though. Ouch, something that I don't really like to

hear since this is the direction I am considering when the time comes. I

wasn't really sure though if the surgery was more painful or the sexy string

underpants.

When using the gas to extend your abdomen it does and can be painful. It

many times is more painful than the after-pain from the actual surgery.

Keep us posted on your training and how you're doing. You're in my

thoughts...

Connie

Re: Re: peritoneal dialysis canula insertion

Hello Guys, I'm back and tubed up. The experience was far worse than I

imagined. I must say I enjoyed the company of my fellow ward mates, in one

corner was a wonderful 80 year old partially sighted man with a quick wit

and great stories to tell, he could name all the local football teams from

the 1930's onwards but it was his awe inspiring war stories he had to tell,

he was in the Royal Navy been all around the world had wonderful experiences

to tell of his stays in various country's but his most memorable story was

his being on HMS Cumberland (I think) one of the ships that sunk Bismark. He

had been on three ships sunk by U-Boats and lived to tell the tale... oh he

had this imaginary dog, a cross jack Russel / Mastiff. Whenever a high and

mighty consultant came in, as he was leaving Les would shout out 'watch out

for my dog' of course the consultant would look around alarmed, realize hes

been 'had' and smile

The nurses all loved him, whenever they asked him how he was he would say

' the foods great, the company is fantastic but the sex is lousy' always

made the whole ward laugh... I could go on about the others but I wont

except to say 3 off them were already on PD and it was helpful them giving

me advice and letting me watch the process..

Anyway my experience was a painful one. Before the procedure they gave me

these sexy string underpants to wear which was embarrasing...

I was wheeled into the operating room, striped down to my see through

undies, lay there for a few minutes praying for someone to throw something

over me then they scrubbed up threw a load of sterile towels on me and told

me to lay still, dint move...

They marked up where I wanted the canula to come out which right of my

belly button, and worked a local anesthetic down through my stomach, I only

had 1 cm of fat so that was quickly cut through then it was a combination of

poking their way through with fingers and a blunt instrument to get through

my rather thick abdominal muscle as they called it, the consultant made me

laugh on occasion telling of her painful dentist appointment the day before

and it was hilarious to get a compliment about my 6 pack from a consultant

as shes gouging her way through it ( or it was funny at the time at

least)..

Still wasn't hurting the anesthetic was doing its job, now they diverted

from the procedure on rather than just throw the canula in as they normally

would at this point they instead stuck a camera in to have a look around,

makes sense I suppose but this is where it started to hurt, because they

could not see anything they had to blow my peritoneal cavity up. They used a

had pump to be pumped up 50 times when they got to 30 I was in shear agony

but the pain was in my shoulders and with each pump the pain intensified, I

had now lay there for 75 minutes and was now extremely hot, agitated and

near to passing out with the heat and pain, I told them this and noticed my

voice was weak and slurred, they decide to end it, throw the canula in and

stitch me up......

All over, back on the ward now and complaining about the pain which is

still intense, they tell me its 'deferred pain', some patients get it most

dint and it will go away in time.. Well I'm home now and after a week its

now gone (relief) I'm to start my training next Monday and am looking

forward to it, Ive already experienced drain pain and its weird walking

around with fluid sloshing away in me. It took a week before I could walk

without feeling pain in my chest, possibly I'm now getting used to the fluid

hitting my diaphragm when I walk so its not so painful any more

Anyway sorry for the long story my fingers are getting sore and i need the

loo..

tata4now

Mark

Mark Rowe wrote:

Thanks , and Amy, I do appreciate your support and advice.

talk to you again hopefully this time next week

Mark

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[Guest guest]

Hi Mark,

I enjoyed reading about your canula insertion. I'm sorry that the

experience was painful though. Ouch, something that I don't really like to

hear since this is the direction I am considering when the time comes. I

wasn't really sure though if the surgery was more painful or the sexy string

underpants.

When using the gas to extend your abdomen it does and can be painful. It

many times is more painful than the after-pain from the actual surgery.

Keep us posted on your training and how you're doing. You're in my

thoughts...

Connie

Re: Re: peritoneal dialysis canula insertion

Hello Guys, I'm back and tubed up. The experience was far worse than I

imagined. I must say I enjoyed the company of my fellow ward mates, in one

corner was a wonderful 80 year old partially sighted man with a quick wit

and great stories to tell, he could name all the local football teams from

the 1930's onwards but it was his awe inspiring war stories he had to tell,

he was in the Royal Navy been all around the world had wonderful experiences

to tell of his stays in various country's but his most memorable story was

his being on HMS Cumberland (I think) one of the ships that sunk Bismark. He

had been on three ships sunk by U-Boats and lived to tell the tale... oh he

had this imaginary dog, a cross jack Russel / Mastiff. Whenever a high and

mighty consultant came in, as he was leaving Les would shout out 'watch out

for my dog' of course the consultant would look around alarmed, realize hes

been 'had' and smile

The nurses all loved him, whenever they asked him how he was he would say

' the foods great, the company is fantastic but the sex is lousy' always

made the whole ward laugh... I could go on about the others but I wont

except to say 3 off them were already on PD and it was helpful them giving

me advice and letting me watch the process..

Anyway my experience was a painful one. Before the procedure they gave me

these sexy string underpants to wear which was embarrasing...

I was wheeled into the operating room, striped down to my see through

undies, lay there for a few minutes praying for someone to throw something

over me then they scrubbed up threw a load of sterile towels on me and told

me to lay still, dint move...

They marked up where I wanted the canula to come out which right of my

belly button, and worked a local anesthetic down through my stomach, I only

had 1 cm of fat so that was quickly cut through then it was a combination of

poking their way through with fingers and a blunt instrument to get through

my rather thick abdominal muscle as they called it, the consultant made me

laugh on occasion telling of her painful dentist appointment the day before

and it was hilarious to get a compliment about my 6 pack from a consultant

as shes gouging her way through it ( or it was funny at the time at

least)..

Still wasn't hurting the anesthetic was doing its job, now they diverted

from the procedure on rather than just throw the canula in as they normally

would at this point they instead stuck a camera in to have a look around,

makes sense I suppose but this is where it started to hurt, because they

could not see anything they had to blow my peritoneal cavity up. They used a

had pump to be pumped up 50 times when they got to 30 I was in shear agony

but the pain was in my shoulders and with each pump the pain intensified, I

had now lay there for 75 minutes and was now extremely hot, agitated and

near to passing out with the heat and pain, I told them this and noticed my

voice was weak and slurred, they decide to end it, throw the canula in and

stitch me up......

All over, back on the ward now and complaining about the pain which is

still intense, they tell me its 'deferred pain', some patients get it most

dint and it will go away in time.. Well I'm home now and after a week its

now gone (relief) I'm to start my training next Monday and am looking

forward to it, Ive already experienced drain pain and its weird walking

around with fluid sloshing away in me. It took a week before I could walk

without feeling pain in my chest, possibly I'm now getting used to the fluid

hitting my diaphragm when I walk so its not so painful any more

Anyway sorry for the long story my fingers are getting sore and i need the

loo..

tata4now

Mark

Mark Rowe wrote:

Thanks , and Amy, I do appreciate your support and advice.

talk to you again hopefully this time next week

Mark

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[Guest guest]

Well what a fun week thats been. Last monday I started

my pd training, by Tuesday I was on anti biotics for

an infected exit site, come thursday after I had come

home for the weekend and looking forward to a W/E off

I get a call from the Hospital to say I need to come

in Friday because the antibiotics they had put me on

for the Peritonitious I had was teh wrong antibiotics.

Friday, im sat there in the hospital when this nice

doctor comes over and tells me ive got 'the killer

bug' 'the flesh eating virus' MRSA... (his words not

mine) needles to say I started to erm poo my pants and

thought I was about to be eaten alive by this evil

bug..

The nice nurse was talking to me an hour or so later

after they put me on a drip and saw that I was a

little worried well a lot worried, she called the head

virus control officer for the hospital asking her to

have a chat with me. Control officer appears an hour

or so later and nicely puts my mind at rest and

managed to convince me I wasnt about to become bug

food

Starting with monday night ater my first day of

exchanges I got little sleep because of pain in my

chest only relieved a little if i sat up. Tuesday my

exit site is infected so I start with antibiotice and

I cant see my hand through the bag its that cloudy-

ive also got peritonotious.

Friday morning for a few hours I really thought I was

going to die, so ive had a really bad start to life on

PD but there is a little bit of good news, i'm no

longer in pain when I fill and drain (well not much)

and my bags are starting to clear.... I CAN NOW SEE MY

HAND THROUGH THE BAG HOOORAY!!!!

Mark

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[Guest guest]

Well what a fun week thats been. Last monday I started

my pd training, by Tuesday I was on anti biotics for

an infected exit site, come thursday after I had come

home for the weekend and looking forward to a W/E off

I get a call from the Hospital to say I need to come

in Friday because the antibiotics they had put me on

for the Peritonitious I had was teh wrong antibiotics.

Friday, im sat there in the hospital when this nice

doctor comes over and tells me ive got 'the killer

bug' 'the flesh eating virus' MRSA... (his words not

mine) needles to say I started to erm poo my pants and

thought I was about to be eaten alive by this evil

bug..

The nice nurse was talking to me an hour or so later

after they put me on a drip and saw that I was a

little worried well a lot worried, she called the head

virus control officer for the hospital asking her to

have a chat with me. Control officer appears an hour

or so later and nicely puts my mind at rest and

managed to convince me I wasnt about to become bug

food

Starting with monday night ater my first day of

exchanges I got little sleep because of pain in my

chest only relieved a little if i sat up. Tuesday my

exit site is infected so I start with antibiotice and

I cant see my hand through the bag its that cloudy-

ive also got peritonotious.

Friday morning for a few hours I really thought I was

going to die, so ive had a really bad start to life on

PD but there is a little bit of good news, i'm no

longer in pain when I fill and drain (well not much)

and my bags are starting to clear.... I CAN NOW SEE MY

HAND THROUGH THE BAG HOOORAY!!!!

Mark

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[Guest guest]

Well what a fun week thats been. Last monday I started

my pd training, by Tuesday I was on anti biotics for

an infected exit site, come thursday after I had come

home for the weekend and looking forward to a W/E off

I get a call from the Hospital to say I need to come

in Friday because the antibiotics they had put me on

for the Peritonitious I had was teh wrong antibiotics.

Friday, im sat there in the hospital when this nice

doctor comes over and tells me ive got 'the killer

bug' 'the flesh eating virus' MRSA... (his words not

mine) needles to say I started to erm poo my pants and

thought I was about to be eaten alive by this evil

bug..

The nice nurse was talking to me an hour or so later

after they put me on a drip and saw that I was a

little worried well a lot worried, she called the head

virus control officer for the hospital asking her to

have a chat with me. Control officer appears an hour

or so later and nicely puts my mind at rest and

managed to convince me I wasnt about to become bug

food

Starting with monday night ater my first day of

exchanges I got little sleep because of pain in my

chest only relieved a little if i sat up. Tuesday my

exit site is infected so I start with antibiotice and

I cant see my hand through the bag its that cloudy-

ive also got peritonotious.

Friday morning for a few hours I really thought I was

going to die, so ive had a really bad start to life on

PD but there is a little bit of good news, i'm no

longer in pain when I fill and drain (well not much)

and my bags are starting to clear.... I CAN NOW SEE MY

HAND THROUGH THE BAG HOOORAY!!!!

Mark

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