Guest guest Posted January 19, 2001 Report Share Posted January 19, 2001 > Anyone else seen the what looks to be a new pro disease commercial from the > Office of National > Drug Control Policy? > > Caught it late on but it showed what looked to be cat scans of non addictive > person followed what looked to be severely retarded activity patterns > purportedly an addicts brain activity with the words " Addiction = Disease " > in large print over the addicts brain wave patterns. > ------------------- Hmmm. Sounds like a re-tread of the fried-egg " This is your brain on drugs " commercial that spawned SOOO many spoofs when I was in college. ~Rita > Stand by for the next wave of stepper " I know it's a disease cause I saw it > on TV " arguments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2001 Report Share Posted January 19, 2001 - I'll never believe those commercials again. I remember in the early days of the AIDS PR campaign. Some group produced an ad with a very attractive woman who said she had AIDS, and if she could get it, anybody could. It scared the hell out of me. Later I found out that she was an intravenous drug user. They failed to mention that part in the ad. Perhaps in the ad you're talking about they fail to mention that the " addict " whose brain is being scanned also has epilepsy. Who knows? Nate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2001 Report Share Posted January 19, 2001 it also begs the question, so what? what does the brain scan of someone having an orgasm look like? is that proof sexual addction is a disease too? of how about chocolate? or cigerettes? is it surprising that chemicals can effect brain function? > - > > I'll never believe those commercials again. I remember in the early days of > the AIDS PR campaign. Some group produced an ad with a very attractive > woman who said she had AIDS, and if she could get it, anybody could. It > scared the hell out of me. Later I found out that she was an intravenous > drug user. They failed to mention that part in the ad. Perhaps in the ad > you're talking about they fail to mention that the " addict " whose brain is > being scanned also has epilepsy. Who knows? > > Nate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2001 Report Share Posted January 20, 2001 Hi Stuart. I'd imagine by now you've taken a gander at the link Dave provided. As I look at the pictures on the site for some reason it screams " huffer " at me. (someone who huffs[snorts] say the fumes coming off glue over a long period of time) Don't know why but they just struck me that way from a documentary I saw a few years back about kids in South America. Did you get a chance to see this? Man these guys need to be shot errrr spoken to with harsh language. " Myth: You have to want drug treatment for it to be effective. Virtually no one wants drug treatment. Two of the primary reasons people seek drug treatment are because the court ordered them to do so, or because loved ones urged them to seek treatment. Many scientific studies have shown convincingly that those who enter drug treatment programs in which they face " high pressure " to confront and attempt to surmount their addiction do comparatively better in treatment, regardless of the reason they sought treatment in the first place. " > Re: Addiction = Disease > > >, > >I don't think I have seen the ad, but I do think I recall an article >on the ad pointing out that it was very misleading. The " addicted " >brains were said to be unreprentative. Apparently they cherry-picked >the scans to make their visual point. > > > >> Anyone else seen the what looks to be a new pro disease commercial >from the >> Office of National >> Drug Control Policy? >> >> Caught it late on but it showed what looked to be cat scans of non >addictive >> person followed what looked to be severely retarded activity >patterns >> purportedly an addicts brain activity with the words " Addiction = >Disease " >> in large print over the addicts brain wave patterns. >> >> Stand by for the next wave of stepper " I know it's a disease cause >I saw it >> on TV " arguments. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2001 Report Share Posted January 20, 2001 At 06:14 AM 1/20/01 -0000, stuart323@... wrote: >, > >I don't think I have seen the ad, but I do think I recall an article >on the ad pointing out that it was very misleading. The " addicted " >brains were said to be unreprentative. Apparently they cherry-picked >the scans to make their visual point. You could do the same with x-rays of the lungs of long-time smokers, " proving " that cigarette smoking is a disease. There's no doubt that constant injestion of harmful substances can cause diseases, but to say the behavior IS a disease is the great leap provided by AA. ----- http://listen.to/benbradley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2001 Report Share Posted January 20, 2001 true, but what i find amazing is its not surprsing chemcials can effect brain function, but we dont see brain scans placed on tv commercials, paid for with tax payer money, showing us brains of drinkers and smokers, and use that as justification of a war on those subsctances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2001 Report Share Posted January 20, 2001 HI Nate We dont know what the woman's scan was like before she did drugs, and whether any problem now is temporary. When an otherwise healthy person goes through a depressive episode (like me now) they will show a scan like this. P. > - > > I'll never believe those commercials again. I remember in the early days of > the AIDS PR campaign. Some group produced an ad with a very attractive > woman who said she had AIDS, and if she could get it, anybody could. It > scared the hell out of me. Later I found out that she was an intravenous > drug user. They failed to mention that part in the ad. Perhaps in the ad > you're talking about they fail to mention that the " addict " whose brain is > being scanned also has epilepsy. Who knows? > > Nate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2001 Report Share Posted January 20, 2001 HI Nate We dont know what the woman's scan was like before she did drugs, and whether any problem now is temporary. When an otherwise healthy person goes through a depressive episode (like me now) they will show a scan like this. P. > - > > I'll never believe those commercials again. I remember in the early days of > the AIDS PR campaign. Some group produced an ad with a very attractive > woman who said she had AIDS, and if she could get it, anybody could. It > scared the hell out of me. Later I found out that she was an intravenous > drug user. They failed to mention that part in the ad. Perhaps in the ad > you're talking about they fail to mention that the " addict " whose brain is > being scanned also has epilepsy. Who knows? > > Nate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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