Guest guest Posted August 31, 2000 Report Share Posted August 31, 2000 Hello, everyone! I am a long time member of the group, long time sufferer of rosacea. This is the first time i am writing because i never see anyone writing about this. I have VERY oily skin. Soon after i wash my face (within 20 minutes), it becomes very oily. The oil is not just over my nose and cheeks but all over. Does anyone else have this problem and what do you do about it? Thanks for any help. Tara =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2000 Report Share Posted August 31, 2000 Tara I do not have your oily skin problem in fact almost the opposite. I have dry skin. Of course I am also a diabetic and they tend to have dry skin problems too. Mostly around my eyes that are dry. Bobbye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2000 Report Share Posted August 31, 2000 Tara I do not have your oily skin problem in fact almost the opposite. I have dry skin. Of course I am also a diabetic and they tend to have dry skin problems too. Mostly around my eyes that are dry. Bobbye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2000 Report Share Posted August 31, 2000 Tara I do not have your oily skin problem in fact almost the opposite. I have dry skin. Of course I am also a diabetic and they tend to have dry skin problems too. Mostly around my eyes that are dry. Bobbye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2000 Report Share Posted September 1, 2000 8/31/00 9:37:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time From:TARAMYBELL@... Hello, everyone! I am a long time member of the group, long time sufferer of rosacea. This is the first time i am writing because i never see anyone writing about this.I have VERY oily skin. Soon after i wash my face (within 20 minutes), it becomes very oily. The oil is not just over my nose and cheeks but all over. Does anyone else have this problem and what do you do about it? Thanks for any help. Tara =) ***** There are many causes of oily skin. The primary ones are below that can be altered by the individual to decrease the oilyness: When the body becomes stressed from many causes, even dehydration, the adrenal cortex converts adrenal androgens to testosterone in BOTH men and women, resulting in overactive sebaceous glands. In the normal female, the ovaries produce 25% of the testosterone, and 75% is converted from adrenal androgens. Women only have 10% of the testosterone that men have. Men have thicker skin and muscles than women and can handle much more testosterone. Under stress, however, the adrenal androgen conversion can almost double the testosterone in both men and women. This causes the T zone of the face to become oily, while other areas are still dry from dehydration. Adult acne and rosacea are sometimes a by-product of stress and/or dehydration. Water and estrogen calm the " body's stress alarm system " . Both facial redness and acne are caused in part by high calorie carbohydrates (pastas, breads) and sugar spiking from all sweet foods. Most of us have heard of kids bouncing off the walls with hyperactivity after eating high sugar foods. So, if you think of things that give you a high burn rate, high energy, or foods that would most likely add fat to your body, and you will be able to identify the worst culprits: foods and beverages that stimulate the sebaceous gland system and thus cause more oil and redness. Stimulants such as coffees, teas, soft drinks with caffeine, alcohol beverages and chocolates also stimulate this system, causing further facial redness, oily skin and acne. Consuming more water helps us to reduce reddening and sebaceous gland oils. Ralph Bass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2000 Report Share Posted September 1, 2000 Hi Tara: Here is a copy of my regime, which I posted about a year ago. I can really sympathize with your oily skin. I also have acne-like problems assoc. with my rosacea, which are now largely under control since I began the following regime at my derm's instructions. My face is still oily, but managable...here goes: 1. Wash with Neutrogena Oil Free Acne Wash. This stuff is really mild and washes off without any residue or sticky feeling. It leaves my face feeling clean but not dry. I would recommend it to anyone with oily or breakout prone skin. This really has helped open clogged pores and reduce the oil for me w/o drying me out. 2. Apply Metrogel twice a day. (gel since my skin is oily) 3. On the " bad spots " (the cysts and little bright red rosacea " dots " and clogged pores), I apply Brevoxyl-8, a prescription 8% solution of benzoyl peroxide. Yes, I know that everyone on this group says benzoyl peroxide is a no-no, but my derm said use it and it doesn't seem bother me other than drying my skin out a bit. It has helped mildly peel my skin and done wonders for the bad areas, esp. the nose and chin. 4. I have problems with cysts: large, hard red bumps. When these appear, I take Amoxil (500 mg.) twice a day until the zits clear up. Once they are settled down, I stop taking it. I decide for myself when to start and stop. For the first two or three months, I really was on them almost constantly. I didn't notice any bad side effects. Then the frequency of the break-outs diminished and I hardly use them at all now. But if a bump pops up, I will start swallowing them with gusto. I just eat yogurt and thank the powers that be for Amoxil. I believe this has been the real key to getting rid of the cysts. I have now had a normal looking face without the horrible bumps for over a year now. I am overjoyed. 6. I have used Clinique City Block for years and since they came out with it, I have been using the new 25 SPF version. It provides enough moisture for me. I use Arden Flawless Finish Dual Perfection face powder on top of that, which is about all my oily skin can take. Foundation and other stuff slides right off. 7. My derm didn't recommend this--I picked it up from this group: get a buckwheat pillow. They really are wonderful and I think the pillow has helped control the flushing/dots on my cheeks. Helps my sinus congestion too. This regime is really working for me and I suffered from what I thought was acne for decades prior to this. Previous derms didn't mention rosacea at all. Since being diagnosed, I have given up on figuring out food triggers, but I do flush red when hot or stressed. My diet is pretty good in any case with little processed food and almost completely vegetarian. I was never really red on a regular basis, but I am less pink looking these days. I do have trouble with little blister like bumps along my eyelid occasionally, but don't really treat them in any way at this time. For now, I can live with the broken vessels I have on my nose and a few other places. Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 21:36:50 EDT From: TARAMYBELL@... Subject: Re: Oily skin Hello, everyone! I am a long time member of the group, long time sufferer of rosacea. This is the first time i am writing because i never see anyone writing about this. I have VERY oily skin. Soon after i wash my face (within 20 minutes), it becomes very oily. The oil is not just over my nose and cheeks but all over. Does anyone else have this problem and what do you do about it? Thanks for any help. Tara =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2000 Report Share Posted September 1, 2000 Hi Tara: Here is a copy of my regime, which I posted about a year ago. I can really sympathize with your oily skin. I also have acne-like problems assoc. with my rosacea, which are now largely under control since I began the following regime at my derm's instructions. My face is still oily, but managable...here goes: 1. Wash with Neutrogena Oil Free Acne Wash. This stuff is really mild and washes off without any residue or sticky feeling. It leaves my face feeling clean but not dry. I would recommend it to anyone with oily or breakout prone skin. This really has helped open clogged pores and reduce the oil for me w/o drying me out. 2. Apply Metrogel twice a day. (gel since my skin is oily) 3. On the " bad spots " (the cysts and little bright red rosacea " dots " and clogged pores), I apply Brevoxyl-8, a prescription 8% solution of benzoyl peroxide. Yes, I know that everyone on this group says benzoyl peroxide is a no-no, but my derm said use it and it doesn't seem bother me other than drying my skin out a bit. It has helped mildly peel my skin and done wonders for the bad areas, esp. the nose and chin. 4. I have problems with cysts: large, hard red bumps. When these appear, I take Amoxil (500 mg.) twice a day until the zits clear up. Once they are settled down, I stop taking it. I decide for myself when to start and stop. For the first two or three months, I really was on them almost constantly. I didn't notice any bad side effects. Then the frequency of the break-outs diminished and I hardly use them at all now. But if a bump pops up, I will start swallowing them with gusto. I just eat yogurt and thank the powers that be for Amoxil. I believe this has been the real key to getting rid of the cysts. I have now had a normal looking face without the horrible bumps for over a year now. I am overjoyed. 6. I have used Clinique City Block for years and since they came out with it, I have been using the new 25 SPF version. It provides enough moisture for me. I use Arden Flawless Finish Dual Perfection face powder on top of that, which is about all my oily skin can take. Foundation and other stuff slides right off. 7. My derm didn't recommend this--I picked it up from this group: get a buckwheat pillow. They really are wonderful and I think the pillow has helped control the flushing/dots on my cheeks. Helps my sinus congestion too. This regime is really working for me and I suffered from what I thought was acne for decades prior to this. Previous derms didn't mention rosacea at all. Since being diagnosed, I have given up on figuring out food triggers, but I do flush red when hot or stressed. My diet is pretty good in any case with little processed food and almost completely vegetarian. I was never really red on a regular basis, but I am less pink looking these days. I do have trouble with little blister like bumps along my eyelid occasionally, but don't really treat them in any way at this time. For now, I can live with the broken vessels I have on my nose and a few other places. Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 21:36:50 EDT From: TARAMYBELL@... Subject: Re: Oily skin Hello, everyone! I am a long time member of the group, long time sufferer of rosacea. This is the first time i am writing because i never see anyone writing about this. I have VERY oily skin. Soon after i wash my face (within 20 minutes), it becomes very oily. The oil is not just over my nose and cheeks but all over. Does anyone else have this problem and what do you do about it? Thanks for any help. Tara =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2000 Report Share Posted September 1, 2000 Hi Tara: Here is a copy of my regime, which I posted about a year ago. I can really sympathize with your oily skin. I also have acne-like problems assoc. with my rosacea, which are now largely under control since I began the following regime at my derm's instructions. My face is still oily, but managable...here goes: 1. Wash with Neutrogena Oil Free Acne Wash. This stuff is really mild and washes off without any residue or sticky feeling. It leaves my face feeling clean but not dry. I would recommend it to anyone with oily or breakout prone skin. This really has helped open clogged pores and reduce the oil for me w/o drying me out. 2. Apply Metrogel twice a day. (gel since my skin is oily) 3. On the " bad spots " (the cysts and little bright red rosacea " dots " and clogged pores), I apply Brevoxyl-8, a prescription 8% solution of benzoyl peroxide. Yes, I know that everyone on this group says benzoyl peroxide is a no-no, but my derm said use it and it doesn't seem bother me other than drying my skin out a bit. It has helped mildly peel my skin and done wonders for the bad areas, esp. the nose and chin. 4. I have problems with cysts: large, hard red bumps. When these appear, I take Amoxil (500 mg.) twice a day until the zits clear up. Once they are settled down, I stop taking it. I decide for myself when to start and stop. For the first two or three months, I really was on them almost constantly. I didn't notice any bad side effects. Then the frequency of the break-outs diminished and I hardly use them at all now. But if a bump pops up, I will start swallowing them with gusto. I just eat yogurt and thank the powers that be for Amoxil. I believe this has been the real key to getting rid of the cysts. I have now had a normal looking face without the horrible bumps for over a year now. I am overjoyed. 6. I have used Clinique City Block for years and since they came out with it, I have been using the new 25 SPF version. It provides enough moisture for me. I use Arden Flawless Finish Dual Perfection face powder on top of that, which is about all my oily skin can take. Foundation and other stuff slides right off. 7. My derm didn't recommend this--I picked it up from this group: get a buckwheat pillow. They really are wonderful and I think the pillow has helped control the flushing/dots on my cheeks. Helps my sinus congestion too. This regime is really working for me and I suffered from what I thought was acne for decades prior to this. Previous derms didn't mention rosacea at all. Since being diagnosed, I have given up on figuring out food triggers, but I do flush red when hot or stressed. My diet is pretty good in any case with little processed food and almost completely vegetarian. I was never really red on a regular basis, but I am less pink looking these days. I do have trouble with little blister like bumps along my eyelid occasionally, but don't really treat them in any way at this time. For now, I can live with the broken vessels I have on my nose and a few other places. Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 21:36:50 EDT From: TARAMYBELL@... Subject: Re: Oily skin Hello, everyone! I am a long time member of the group, long time sufferer of rosacea. This is the first time i am writing because i never see anyone writing about this. I have VERY oily skin. Soon after i wash my face (within 20 minutes), it becomes very oily. The oil is not just over my nose and cheeks but all over. Does anyone else have this problem and what do you do about it? Thanks for any help. Tara =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2000 Report Share Posted September 18, 2000 Hi Tara, It's been a long time since I logged on to this site and so I only just saw your message. I too have very oily skin and have tried to do something about it instead of just washing with a cleanser designed for oily skin. Doctors have been very reluctant to prescribe anything for it because they have told me that it is in fact good to have oily skin, i.e. it's preferable to dry skin! In the case of women I have heard that sometimes hormones (or is it something to control hormones?) are given. One drug that may help is Roaccutane but I don't know any doctor who would prescribe it just for that. An alternative might be Retin-A or Retinova/Renova, as they are topical alternatives to Roaccutane. I've also heard that acupuncture could be the best treatment, but have yet to try it myself. > 8/31/00 9:37:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time From:TARAMYBELL@a... > > Hello, everyone! > I am a long time member of the group, long time sufferer of rosacea. > This is the first time i am writing because i never see anyone writing about > this.I have VERY oily skin. Soon after i wash my face (within 20 minutes), it > becomes very oily. The oil is not just over my nose and cheeks but all over. > Does anyone else have this problem and what do you do about it? > Thanks for any help. > Tara =) > > ***** > > There are many causes of oily skin. The primary ones are below that can be > altered by the individual to decrease the oilyness: > > When the body becomes stressed from many causes, even dehydration, the > adrenal cortex converts adrenal androgens to testosterone in BOTH men and > women, resulting in overactive sebaceous glands. In the normal female, the > ovaries produce 25% of the testosterone, and 75% is converted from adrenal > androgens. Women only have 10% of the testosterone that men have. Men have > thicker skin and muscles than women and can handle much more testosterone. > Under stress, however, the adrenal androgen conversion can almost double > the testosterone in both men and women. This causes the T zone of the face > to become oily, while other areas are still dry from dehydration. Adult > acne and rosacea are sometimes a by-product of stress and/or dehydration. > Water and estrogen calm the " body's stress alarm system " . > > Both facial redness and acne are caused in part by high calorie > carbohydrates (pastas, breads) and sugar spiking from all sweet foods. > Most of us have heard of kids bouncing off the walls with hyperactivity > after eating high sugar foods. So, if you think of things that give you a > high burn rate, high energy, or foods that would most likely add fat to > your body, and you will be able to identify the worst culprits: foods and > beverages that stimulate the sebaceous gland system and thus cause more oil > and redness. Stimulants such as coffees, teas, soft drinks with caffeine, > alcohol beverages and chocolates also stimulate this system, causing > further facial redness, oily skin and acne. Consuming more water helps us > to reduce reddening and sebaceous gland oils. > > > Ralph Bass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2000 Report Share Posted September 18, 2000 Hi Tara, It's been a long time since I logged on to this site and so I only just saw your message. I too have very oily skin and have tried to do something about it instead of just washing with a cleanser designed for oily skin. Doctors have been very reluctant to prescribe anything for it because they have told me that it is in fact good to have oily skin, i.e. it's preferable to dry skin! In the case of women I have heard that sometimes hormones (or is it something to control hormones?) are given. One drug that may help is Roaccutane but I don't know any doctor who would prescribe it just for that. An alternative might be Retin-A or Retinova/Renova, as they are topical alternatives to Roaccutane. I've also heard that acupuncture could be the best treatment, but have yet to try it myself. > 8/31/00 9:37:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time From:TARAMYBELL@a... > > Hello, everyone! > I am a long time member of the group, long time sufferer of rosacea. > This is the first time i am writing because i never see anyone writing about > this.I have VERY oily skin. Soon after i wash my face (within 20 minutes), it > becomes very oily. The oil is not just over my nose and cheeks but all over. > Does anyone else have this problem and what do you do about it? > Thanks for any help. > Tara =) > > ***** > > There are many causes of oily skin. The primary ones are below that can be > altered by the individual to decrease the oilyness: > > When the body becomes stressed from many causes, even dehydration, the > adrenal cortex converts adrenal androgens to testosterone in BOTH men and > women, resulting in overactive sebaceous glands. In the normal female, the > ovaries produce 25% of the testosterone, and 75% is converted from adrenal > androgens. Women only have 10% of the testosterone that men have. Men have > thicker skin and muscles than women and can handle much more testosterone. > Under stress, however, the adrenal androgen conversion can almost double > the testosterone in both men and women. This causes the T zone of the face > to become oily, while other areas are still dry from dehydration. Adult > acne and rosacea are sometimes a by-product of stress and/or dehydration. > Water and estrogen calm the " body's stress alarm system " . > > Both facial redness and acne are caused in part by high calorie > carbohydrates (pastas, breads) and sugar spiking from all sweet foods. > Most of us have heard of kids bouncing off the walls with hyperactivity > after eating high sugar foods. So, if you think of things that give you a > high burn rate, high energy, or foods that would most likely add fat to > your body, and you will be able to identify the worst culprits: foods and > beverages that stimulate the sebaceous gland system and thus cause more oil > and redness. Stimulants such as coffees, teas, soft drinks with caffeine, > alcohol beverages and chocolates also stimulate this system, causing > further facial redness, oily skin and acne. Consuming more water helps us > to reduce reddening and sebaceous gland oils. > > > Ralph Bass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2000 Report Share Posted September 18, 2000 Hi Tara, It's been a long time since I logged on to this site and so I only just saw your message. I too have very oily skin and have tried to do something about it instead of just washing with a cleanser designed for oily skin. Doctors have been very reluctant to prescribe anything for it because they have told me that it is in fact good to have oily skin, i.e. it's preferable to dry skin! In the case of women I have heard that sometimes hormones (or is it something to control hormones?) are given. One drug that may help is Roaccutane but I don't know any doctor who would prescribe it just for that. An alternative might be Retin-A or Retinova/Renova, as they are topical alternatives to Roaccutane. I've also heard that acupuncture could be the best treatment, but have yet to try it myself. > 8/31/00 9:37:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time From:TARAMYBELL@a... > > Hello, everyone! > I am a long time member of the group, long time sufferer of rosacea. > This is the first time i am writing because i never see anyone writing about > this.I have VERY oily skin. Soon after i wash my face (within 20 minutes), it > becomes very oily. The oil is not just over my nose and cheeks but all over. > Does anyone else have this problem and what do you do about it? > Thanks for any help. > Tara =) > > ***** > > There are many causes of oily skin. The primary ones are below that can be > altered by the individual to decrease the oilyness: > > When the body becomes stressed from many causes, even dehydration, the > adrenal cortex converts adrenal androgens to testosterone in BOTH men and > women, resulting in overactive sebaceous glands. In the normal female, the > ovaries produce 25% of the testosterone, and 75% is converted from adrenal > androgens. Women only have 10% of the testosterone that men have. Men have > thicker skin and muscles than women and can handle much more testosterone. > Under stress, however, the adrenal androgen conversion can almost double > the testosterone in both men and women. This causes the T zone of the face > to become oily, while other areas are still dry from dehydration. Adult > acne and rosacea are sometimes a by-product of stress and/or dehydration. > Water and estrogen calm the " body's stress alarm system " . > > Both facial redness and acne are caused in part by high calorie > carbohydrates (pastas, breads) and sugar spiking from all sweet foods. > Most of us have heard of kids bouncing off the walls with hyperactivity > after eating high sugar foods. So, if you think of things that give you a > high burn rate, high energy, or foods that would most likely add fat to > your body, and you will be able to identify the worst culprits: foods and > beverages that stimulate the sebaceous gland system and thus cause more oil > and redness. Stimulants such as coffees, teas, soft drinks with caffeine, > alcohol beverages and chocolates also stimulate this system, causing > further facial redness, oily skin and acne. Consuming more water helps us > to reduce reddening and sebaceous gland oils. > > > Ralph Bass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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