Guest guest Posted May 1, 2006 Report Share Posted May 1, 2006 > > ALA is good but I get Liver problem while taking ALA . Any advice / > suggestions will be helpful. I > have been chelating using ALA for last ,almost, one year. > > > Thanks, > > > Nadeem What dosage and how often are you taking ALA? What sort of liver problem is it? What are your symptoms? Did this start when you first started ALA, or has it developed recently? -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2006 Report Share Posted May 1, 2006 > > ALA is good but I get Liver problem while taking ALA . Any advice / > suggestions will be helpful. I > have been chelating using ALA for last ,almost, one year. > > > Thanks, > > > Nadeem What dosage and how often are you taking ALA? What sort of liver problem is it? What are your symptoms? Did this start when you first started ALA, or has it developed recently? -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2006 Report Share Posted May 1, 2006 > > ALA is good but I get Liver problem while taking ALA . Any advice / > suggestions will be helpful. I > have been chelating using ALA for last ,almost, one year. > > > Thanks, > > > Nadeem What dosage and how often are you taking ALA? What sort of liver problem is it? What are your symptoms? Did this start when you first started ALA, or has it developed recently? -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2006 Report Share Posted May 1, 2006 Hi Nadeem, What do you mean when you say that you get liver problem? What are the symptoms? Have you had any tests that suggest liver problems? What dose of ALA have you been using and how frequently (every 3 h?). What supplements are you taking and what doses. There are plenty of supplements on Andy's supplement list that support the liver. J > > ALA is good but I get Liver problem while taking ALA . Any advice / > suggestions will be helpful. I > have been chelating using ALA for last ,almost, one year. > > > Thanks, > > > Nadeem > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2006 Report Share Posted May 1, 2006 Hi Nadeem, What do you mean when you say that you get liver problem? What are the symptoms? Have you had any tests that suggest liver problems? What dose of ALA have you been using and how frequently (every 3 h?). What supplements are you taking and what doses. There are plenty of supplements on Andy's supplement list that support the liver. J > > ALA is good but I get Liver problem while taking ALA . Any advice / > suggestions will be helpful. I > have been chelating using ALA for last ,almost, one year. > > > Thanks, > > > Nadeem > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2006 Report Share Posted May 1, 2006 Hi Nadeem, What do you mean when you say that you get liver problem? What are the symptoms? Have you had any tests that suggest liver problems? What dose of ALA have you been using and how frequently (every 3 h?). What supplements are you taking and what doses. There are plenty of supplements on Andy's supplement list that support the liver. J > > ALA is good but I get Liver problem while taking ALA . Any advice / > suggestions will be helpful. I > have been chelating using ALA for last ,almost, one year. > > > Thanks, > > > Nadeem > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 > > > > > > ALA is good but I get Liver problem while taking ALA . Any advice / > > > suggestions will be helpful. I > > > have been chelating using ALA for last ,almost, one year. > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > Nadeem > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 > >TK--- What do you actually take for liver detox as this may be the > >problem depending on the product ? > > I AM TAKING PRODUCT FROM COMPANY CALL GENESTRA AND PRODUCT CALL > " ICHOL " > DIGESTIVE FORMULA I looked this product up. It contains: # Choline (Bitartrate).......250 mg # Inositol.......150 mg # l-Methionine (Methionine).......100 mg # Beta vulgaris (Beet).......50 mg # Taraxacum officinale (Dandelion).......25 mg # Acacia catechu (Catechin).......25 mg # Chelidonium majus (Celandine).......25 mg I wouldn't use it. Look on p 133-134 and you will see the supplements that Andy recommends and doseages. Some of the things on that list that will really help your liver are milk thistle extract ( equiv to 250-750 mg silymarin), flax oil, inositol, magnesium, B complex, zinc, moybdenum, taurine. WHile you are there double check and see which supplements you are not taking then ask in the group and we may be able to tell you why you need them. If you look on p. 135 of Amalgam Illness you will find many of the supplements that are recommended for liver support. Note how many B vitamins he lists there. Note also that most of the herbs in your product are crossed off. That means that they are not recommended. > > > > > > and > > > energiser, good bacteria > > > , protien powder ( been vegeterian ). > > > > > > I beleive, I read earlier on this forumn, that it has do with > >copper not > > > excereting while taking > > > only ALA ? or something similar. > > Nadeem - Did you post a hair test and what was the copper level on the test? J > > > >TK--- You are still only guessing. If you have a problem with > >copper or think you do you should be using zinc and molybedenium > >also plus taking the recommended chelation breaks. > > O.K, I WILL START TAKING ZINC AND MOLYBEDNIUM AND RECOMMENDED CHELATION > BREAKS > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Nadeem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2006 Report Share Posted May 7, 2006 > > Any good product for energising and detoxifying liver. I could not tolerate > Milk thistle. Thorne makes a product called TAPS. You can't take the S part of it because it stands for silymarin, which is milk thistle. You could look up the other ingredients and try them. (The T is turmeric, A is artichoke, etc.) On the Autism-Mercury board there has been much discussion lately of how vitamin C generates glutathione, which detoxes. Glycine and taurine can increase bile production, which helps to detox the liver. ALA, which should only be used on a chelation protocol, is good for the liver. I believe calcium d-glucarate speeds up one phase 2 pathway (glucuronidation), helping get rid of xenoestrogens. Addressing sulfation problems with magnesium sulfate and/or molybdenum can help if you have that problem. Various supplements can help with methylation (methyl B-13, TMG, etc.). Amalgam Illness starting about pg. 40 has quite a bit of information about the various liver pathways and ways to speed them up or slow them down. It all depends on which ones are issues for you. You can buy it at www.noamalgam.com. W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2006 Report Share Posted May 7, 2006 > > Any good product for energising and detoxifying liver. I could not tolerate > Milk thistle. Thorne makes a product called TAPS. You can't take the S part of it because it stands for silymarin, which is milk thistle. You could look up the other ingredients and try them. (The T is turmeric, A is artichoke, etc.) On the Autism-Mercury board there has been much discussion lately of how vitamin C generates glutathione, which detoxes. Glycine and taurine can increase bile production, which helps to detox the liver. ALA, which should only be used on a chelation protocol, is good for the liver. I believe calcium d-glucarate speeds up one phase 2 pathway (glucuronidation), helping get rid of xenoestrogens. Addressing sulfation problems with magnesium sulfate and/or molybdenum can help if you have that problem. Various supplements can help with methylation (methyl B-13, TMG, etc.). Amalgam Illness starting about pg. 40 has quite a bit of information about the various liver pathways and ways to speed them up or slow them down. It all depends on which ones are issues for you. You can buy it at www.noamalgam.com. W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2006 Report Share Posted May 7, 2006 > > > > > >TK--- What do you actually take for liver detox as this may be the > > > >problem depending on the product ? > > > > > > I AM TAKING PRODUCT FROM COMPANY CALL GENESTRA AND PRODUCT CALL > " ICHOL " > > > DIGESTIVE FORMULA > > > > > > > >I looked this product up. It contains: > > > ># Choline (Bitartrate).......250 mg > ># Inositol.......150 mg > ># l-Methionine (Methionine).......100 mg > ># Beta vulgaris (Beet).......50 mg > ># Taraxacum officinale (Dandelion).......25 mg > ># Acacia catechu (Catechin).......25 mg > ># Chelidonium majus (Celandine).......25 mg > > > > > >I wouldn't use it. > > > >Look on p 133-134 and you will see the supplements that Andy > >recommends and doseages. Some of the things on that list that will > >really help your liver are milk thistle extract ( equiv to 250- 750 mg > >silymarin), flax oil, inositol, magnesium, B complex, zinc, moybdenum, > >taurine. > > > >WHile you are there double check and see which supplements you are not > >taking then ask in the group and we may be able to tell you why you > >need them. > > > >If you look on p. 135 of Amalgam Illness you will find many of the > >supplements that are recommended for liver support. Note how many B > >vitamins he lists there. Note also that most of the herbs in your > >product are crossed off. That means that they are not recommended. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > energiser, good bacteria > > > > > , protien powder ( been vegeterian ). > > > > > > > > > > I beleive, I read earlier on this forumn, that it has do with > > > >copper not > > > > > excereting while taking > > > > > only ALA ? or something similar. > > > > > > > > > > > >Nadeem - Did you post a hair test and what was the copper level on the > >test? > > > > J > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >TK--- You are still only guessing. If you have a problem with > > > >copper or think you do you should be using zinc and molybedenium > > > >also plus taking the recommended chelation breaks. > > > > > > O.K, I WILL START TAKING ZINC AND MOLYBEDNIUM AND RECOMMENDED CHELATION > > > BREAKS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > Nadeem > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2006 Report Share Posted May 7, 2006 > > > > > >TK--- What do you actually take for liver detox as this may be the > > > >problem depending on the product ? > > > > > > I AM TAKING PRODUCT FROM COMPANY CALL GENESTRA AND PRODUCT CALL > " ICHOL " > > > DIGESTIVE FORMULA > > > > > > > >I looked this product up. It contains: > > > ># Choline (Bitartrate).......250 mg > ># Inositol.......150 mg > ># l-Methionine (Methionine).......100 mg > ># Beta vulgaris (Beet).......50 mg > ># Taraxacum officinale (Dandelion).......25 mg > ># Acacia catechu (Catechin).......25 mg > ># Chelidonium majus (Celandine).......25 mg > > > > > >I wouldn't use it. > > > >Look on p 133-134 and you will see the supplements that Andy > >recommends and doseages. Some of the things on that list that will > >really help your liver are milk thistle extract ( equiv to 250- 750 mg > >silymarin), flax oil, inositol, magnesium, B complex, zinc, moybdenum, > >taurine. > > > >WHile you are there double check and see which supplements you are not > >taking then ask in the group and we may be able to tell you why you > >need them. > > > >If you look on p. 135 of Amalgam Illness you will find many of the > >supplements that are recommended for liver support. Note how many B > >vitamins he lists there. Note also that most of the herbs in your > >product are crossed off. That means that they are not recommended. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > energiser, good bacteria > > > > > , protien powder ( been vegeterian ). > > > > > > > > > > I beleive, I read earlier on this forumn, that it has do with > > > >copper not > > > > > excereting while taking > > > > > only ALA ? or something similar. > > > > > > > > > > > >Nadeem - Did you post a hair test and what was the copper level on the > >test? > > > > J > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >TK--- You are still only guessing. If you have a problem with > > > >copper or think you do you should be using zinc and molybedenium > > > >also plus taking the recommended chelation breaks. > > > > > > O.K, I WILL START TAKING ZINC AND MOLYBEDNIUM AND RECOMMENDED CHELATION > > > BREAKS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > Nadeem > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2006 Report Share Posted May 7, 2006 > > > > > >TK--- What do you actually take for liver detox as this may be the > > > >problem depending on the product ? > > > > > > I AM TAKING PRODUCT FROM COMPANY CALL GENESTRA AND PRODUCT CALL > " ICHOL " > > > DIGESTIVE FORMULA > > > > > > > >I looked this product up. It contains: > > > ># Choline (Bitartrate).......250 mg > ># Inositol.......150 mg > ># l-Methionine (Methionine).......100 mg > ># Beta vulgaris (Beet).......50 mg > ># Taraxacum officinale (Dandelion).......25 mg > ># Acacia catechu (Catechin).......25 mg > ># Chelidonium majus (Celandine).......25 mg > > > > > >I wouldn't use it. > > > >Look on p 133-134 and you will see the supplements that Andy > >recommends and doseages. Some of the things on that list that will > >really help your liver are milk thistle extract ( equiv to 250-750 mg > >silymarin), flax oil, inositol, magnesium, B complex, zinc, moybdenum, > >taurine. > > > >WHile you are there double check and see which supplements you are not > >taking then ask in the group and we may be able to tell you why you > >need them. > > > >If you look on p. 135 of Amalgam Illness you will find many of the > >supplements that are recommended for liver support. Note how many B > >vitamins he lists there. Note also that most of the herbs in your > >product are crossed off. That means that they are not recommended. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > energiser, good bacteria > > > > > , protien powder ( been vegeterian ). > > > > > > > > > > I beleive, I read earlier on this forumn, that it has do with > > > >copper not > > > > > excereting while taking > > > > > only ALA ? or something similar. > > > > > > > > > > > >Nadeem - Did you post a hair test and what was the copper level on the > >test? > > > > J > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >TK--- You are still only guessing. If you have a problem with > > > >copper or think you do you should be using zinc and molybedenium > > > >also plus taking the recommended chelation breaks. > > > > > > O.K, I WILL START TAKING ZINC AND MOLYBEDNIUM AND RECOMMENDED CHELATION > > > BREAKS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > Nadeem > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2006 Report Share Posted May 7, 2006 > > > > > >TK--- What do you actually take for liver detox as this may be the > > > >problem depending on the product ? > > > > > > I AM TAKING PRODUCT FROM COMPANY CALL GENESTRA AND PRODUCT CALL > " ICHOL " > > > DIGESTIVE FORMULA > > > > > > > >I looked this product up. It contains: > > > ># Choline (Bitartrate).......250 mg > ># Inositol.......150 mg > ># l-Methionine (Methionine).......100 mg > ># Beta vulgaris (Beet).......50 mg > ># Taraxacum officinale (Dandelion).......25 mg > ># Acacia catechu (Catechin).......25 mg > ># Chelidonium majus (Celandine).......25 mg > > > > > >I wouldn't use it. > > > >Look on p 133-134 and you will see the supplements that Andy > >recommends and doseages. Some of the things on that list that will > >really help your liver are milk thistle extract ( equiv to 250-750 mg > >silymarin), flax oil, inositol, magnesium, B complex, zinc, moybdenum, > >taurine. > > > >WHile you are there double check and see which supplements you are not > >taking then ask in the group and we may be able to tell you why you > >need them. > > > >If you look on p. 135 of Amalgam Illness you will find many of the > >supplements that are recommended for liver support. Note how many B > >vitamins he lists there. Note also that most of the herbs in your > >product are crossed off. That means that they are not recommended. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > energiser, good bacteria > > > > > , protien powder ( been vegeterian ). > > > > > > > > > > I beleive, I read earlier on this forumn, that it has do with > > > >copper not > > > > > excereting while taking > > > > > only ALA ? or something similar. > > > > > > > > > > > >Nadeem - Did you post a hair test and what was the copper level on the > >test? > > > > J > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >TK--- You are still only guessing. If you have a problem with > > > >copper or think you do you should be using zinc and molybedenium > > > >also plus taking the recommended chelation breaks. > > > > > > O.K, I WILL START TAKING ZINC AND MOLYBEDNIUM AND RECOMMENDED CHELATION > > > BREAKS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > Nadeem > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 > > > > > > Any good product for energising and detoxifying liver. I could not > >tolerate > > > Milk thistle. > > > > > >TK--- Eclipta Alba > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 > > > > > > Any good product for energising and detoxifying liver. I could not > >tolerate > > > Milk thistle. > > > > > >TK--- Eclipta Alba > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 > > > > > > Any good product for energising and detoxifying liver. I could not > >tolerate > > > Milk thistle. > > > > > >TK--- Eclipta Alba > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 > I have noamalgam book for almost 2 years. I've had it 4 years and am just know understanding parts or seeing the relevance to me, so I know how it can be. > Liver: I do not know which pathway I belong to, it must be slow one ? Is > their any exact,easy, > way to know which pathway my liver belong to ? Great Smokies has a liver detox profile test. I've never done it and don't know how useful it is, but you could use www.onibasu.com to see others' comments. I don't see it on the Direct Labs list. (http://www.directlabs.com/testtypes.php#liv) You could call them to see if they have it or you might need a doctor to order it. There are various tests of methylation. Amy Yasko has some genetic testing that is supposed to determine which kinds of methylation supplements would be most helpful, but again, I don't have any first-hand experience with that. Other than that, I think you can just look at the various tables around pg. 40 in Amalgam Illness to try to make an educated guess about what might help in your particular circumstances. Others here might have better suggestions. Sandy G. is right that phosphatidylcholine is good for your liver. I think it is the liver supplement that has made the most marked difference for me personally. W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 > > ALA is good but I get Liver problem while taking ALA . Any advice / > suggestions will be helpful. I > have been chelating using ALA for last ,almost, one year. > > > Thanks, > > > Nadeem > Try eating some wheat bran once or twice daily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 > > ALA is good but I get Liver problem while taking ALA . Any advice / > suggestions will be helpful. I > have been chelating using ALA for last ,almost, one year. > > > Thanks, > > > Nadeem > Try eating some wheat bran once or twice daily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 > > ALA is good but I get Liver problem while taking ALA . Any advice / > suggestions will be helpful. I > have been chelating using ALA for last ,almost, one year. > > > Thanks, > > > Nadeem > Try eating some wheat bran once or twice daily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 > > > > > > > > > >TK--- What do you actually take for liver detox as this may be the > > > > > >problem depending on the product ? > > > > > > > > > > I AM TAKING PRODUCT FROM COMPANY CALL GENESTRA AND PRODUCT CALL > > > " ICHOL " > > > > > DIGESTIVE FORMULA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I looked this product up. It contains: > > > > > > > ># Choline (Bitartrate).......250 mg > > > ># Inositol.......150 mg > > > ># l-Methionine (Methionine).......100 mg > > > ># Beta vulgaris (Beet).......50 mg > > > ># Taraxacum officinale (Dandelion).......25 mg > > > ># Acacia catechu (Catechin).......25 mg > > > ># Chelidonium majus (Celandine).......25 mg > > > > > > > > > > > >I wouldn't use it. > > > > > > > >Look on p 133-134 and you will see the supplements that Andy > > > >recommends and doseages. Some of the things on that list that will > > > >really help your liver are milk thistle extract ( equiv to 250-750 mg > > > >silymarin), flax oil, inositol, magnesium, B complex, zinc, moybdenum, > > > >taurine. > > > > > > > >WHile you are there double check and see which supplements you are not > > > >taking then ask in the group and we may be able to tell you why you > > > >need them. > > > > > > > >If you look on p. 135 of Amalgam Illness you will find many of the > > > >supplements that are recommended for liver support. Note how many B > > > >vitamins he lists there. Note also that most of the herbs in your > > > >product are crossed off. That means that they are not recommended. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > energiser, good bacteria > > > > > > > , protien powder ( been vegeterian ). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I beleive, I read earlier on this forumn, that it has do with > > > > > >copper not > > > > > > > excereting while taking > > > > > > > only ALA ? or something similar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Nadeem - Did you post a hair test and what was the copper level on the > > > >test? > > > > > > > > J > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >TK--- You are still only guessing. If you have a problem with > > > > > >copper or think you do you should be using zinc and molybedenium > > > > > >also plus taking the recommended chelation breaks. > > > > > > > > > > O.K, I WILL START TAKING ZINC AND MOLYBEDNIUM AND RECOMMENDED > >CHELATION > > > > > BREAKS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nadeem > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 > > > > > > > > > >TK--- What do you actually take for liver detox as this may be the > > > > > >problem depending on the product ? > > > > > > > > > > I AM TAKING PRODUCT FROM COMPANY CALL GENESTRA AND PRODUCT CALL > > > " ICHOL " > > > > > DIGESTIVE FORMULA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I looked this product up. It contains: > > > > > > > ># Choline (Bitartrate).......250 mg > > > ># Inositol.......150 mg > > > ># l-Methionine (Methionine).......100 mg > > > ># Beta vulgaris (Beet).......50 mg > > > ># Taraxacum officinale (Dandelion).......25 mg > > > ># Acacia catechu (Catechin).......25 mg > > > ># Chelidonium majus (Celandine).......25 mg > > > > > > > > > > > >I wouldn't use it. > > > > > > > >Look on p 133-134 and you will see the supplements that Andy > > > >recommends and doseages. Some of the things on that list that will > > > >really help your liver are milk thistle extract ( equiv to 250-750 mg > > > >silymarin), flax oil, inositol, magnesium, B complex, zinc, moybdenum, > > > >taurine. > > > > > > > >WHile you are there double check and see which supplements you are not > > > >taking then ask in the group and we may be able to tell you why you > > > >need them. > > > > > > > >If you look on p. 135 of Amalgam Illness you will find many of the > > > >supplements that are recommended for liver support. Note how many B > > > >vitamins he lists there. Note also that most of the herbs in your > > > >product are crossed off. That means that they are not recommended. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > energiser, good bacteria > > > > > > > , protien powder ( been vegeterian ). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I beleive, I read earlier on this forumn, that it has do with > > > > > >copper not > > > > > > > excereting while taking > > > > > > > only ALA ? or something similar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Nadeem - Did you post a hair test and what was the copper level on the > > > >test? > > > > > > > > J > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >TK--- You are still only guessing. If you have a problem with > > > > > >copper or think you do you should be using zinc and molybedenium > > > > > >also plus taking the recommended chelation breaks. > > > > > > > > > > O.K, I WILL START TAKING ZINC AND MOLYBEDNIUM AND RECOMMENDED > >CHELATION > > > > > BREAKS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nadeem > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 > > > > > > > > > >TK--- What do you actually take for liver detox as this may be the > > > > > >problem depending on the product ? > > > > > > > > > > I AM TAKING PRODUCT FROM COMPANY CALL GENESTRA AND PRODUCT CALL > > > " ICHOL " > > > > > DIGESTIVE FORMULA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I looked this product up. It contains: > > > > > > > ># Choline (Bitartrate).......250 mg > > > ># Inositol.......150 mg > > > ># l-Methionine (Methionine).......100 mg > > > ># Beta vulgaris (Beet).......50 mg > > > ># Taraxacum officinale (Dandelion).......25 mg > > > ># Acacia catechu (Catechin).......25 mg > > > ># Chelidonium majus (Celandine).......25 mg > > > > > > > > > > > >I wouldn't use it. > > > > > > > >Look on p 133-134 and you will see the supplements that Andy > > > >recommends and doseages. Some of the things on that list that will > > > >really help your liver are milk thistle extract ( equiv to 250-750 mg > > > >silymarin), flax oil, inositol, magnesium, B complex, zinc, moybdenum, > > > >taurine. > > > > > > > >WHile you are there double check and see which supplements you are not > > > >taking then ask in the group and we may be able to tell you why you > > > >need them. > > > > > > > >If you look on p. 135 of Amalgam Illness you will find many of the > > > >supplements that are recommended for liver support. Note how many B > > > >vitamins he lists there. Note also that most of the herbs in your > > > >product are crossed off. That means that they are not recommended. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > energiser, good bacteria > > > > > > > , protien powder ( been vegeterian ). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I beleive, I read earlier on this forumn, that it has do with > > > > > >copper not > > > > > > > excereting while taking > > > > > > > only ALA ? or something similar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Nadeem - Did you post a hair test and what was the copper level on the > > > >test? > > > > > > > > J > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >TK--- You are still only guessing. If you have a problem with > > > > > >copper or think you do you should be using zinc and molybedenium > > > > > >also plus taking the recommended chelation breaks. > > > > > > > > > > O.K, I WILL START TAKING ZINC AND MOLYBEDNIUM AND RECOMMENDED > >CHELATION > > > > > BREAKS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nadeem > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2006 Report Share Posted May 11, 2006 > > What is MALATE ? A salt or an ester of malic acid. > and what does AMINO ACID CHELATE MINERAL SUPPLEMENT MEANS > ?-- The mineral is chelated to amino acids. > Which product have these ? Lots. Usually the supplements are clearly labelled. On line supply companies usually list ingredients at web pages. > > What do you mean by acid form of vitamin C ? > Ascorbic acid. The salt form is sodium ascorbate. > Thanks for reply > > Nadeem > > > >Manganese deficiency can cause neurological and emotional > >symptoms, among other things. Supplementing up to 15 mg per > >day may be helpful. > > > >Manganese deficiency can result in problems with detoxing > >ammonia. If this is a problem, Andy's recommendations are: > >(1) low protein diet, (2) avoidance of citrate, malate, and > >amino acid chelate mineral supplements, and (3) using acid > >form vitamin C or betaine HCL with meals. > > > >-- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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