Guest guest Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 There is another hidden one that most people are unaware of. Along with having to have an overall average of seventy and pass all the critical subscales, one must also pass 126 items overall, regardless of the subscales. I have seen one student who did exactly that. He passed all the critical subscales, made a 71 average overall, but due to missing too many questions in the " non-critical " subscale, he only had 125 items correct, and was unsuccessful. (He ended up successfully completing the next attempt.) Point is, there are three ways the NR can nail you: 1) Failure of a critical subscale. 2) Failure to achieve a 70% overall. 3) Failure to successfully complete 126 items, regardless of other criteria. So, yes, it is definitely possible to pass all the critical subscales and still " fail " the exam. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 There is another hidden one that most people are unaware of. Along with having to have an overall average of seventy and pass all the critical subscales, one must also pass 126 items overall, regardless of the subscales. I have seen one student who did exactly that. He passed all the critical subscales, made a 71 average overall, but due to missing too many questions in the " non-critical " subscale, he only had 125 items correct, and was unsuccessful. (He ended up successfully completing the next attempt.) Point is, there are three ways the NR can nail you: 1) Failure of a critical subscale. 2) Failure to achieve a 70% overall. 3) Failure to successfully complete 126 items, regardless of other criteria. So, yes, it is definitely possible to pass all the critical subscales and still " fail " the exam. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 There is another hidden one that most people are unaware of. Along with having to have an overall average of seventy and pass all the critical subscales, one must also pass 126 items overall, regardless of the subscales. I have seen one student who did exactly that. He passed all the critical subscales, made a 71 average overall, but due to missing too many questions in the " non-critical " subscale, he only had 125 items correct, and was unsuccessful. (He ended up successfully completing the next attempt.) Point is, there are three ways the NR can nail you: 1) Failure of a critical subscale. 2) Failure to achieve a 70% overall. 3) Failure to successfully complete 126 items, regardless of other criteria. So, yes, it is definitely possible to pass all the critical subscales and still " fail " the exam. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 In a message dated 8/31/2004 1:04:42 PM Central Standard Time, bwiseman@... writes: > i think everyone is missing the boat on the whole testing thing. > > Everyone is using the 70% as some majical number. > > The real question is, What is good enough for your patient? Is 70% on a > call good enough, or do they expect 100%???? > > > > AMEN! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2004 Report Share Posted September 1, 2004 In a message dated 9/1/2004 10:41:50 PM Central Daylight Time, wegandy1938@... writes: I shall take it soon. I intend to take it without doing even a nanosecond's review. That should tell me whether or not I am fit to be practicing in the streets. Stand by for.........NEWS! Mr. Grady Aha, but unless you've recently graduated from a class, you're required to take a 40 hr recert/review class....No???? I had intended to challenge the exam, so I'd know what our guys had to go through. But, I have neither the time nor the desire to sit through a review class. Kathi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2004 Report Share Posted September 1, 2004 In a message dated 9/1/2004 10:41:50 PM Central Daylight Time, wegandy1938@... writes: I shall take it soon. I intend to take it without doing even a nanosecond's review. That should tell me whether or not I am fit to be practicing in the streets. Stand by for.........NEWS! Mr. Grady Aha, but unless you've recently graduated from a class, you're required to take a 40 hr recert/review class....No???? I had intended to challenge the exam, so I'd know what our guys had to go through. But, I have neither the time nor the desire to sit through a review class. Kathi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2004 Report Share Posted September 1, 2004 In a message dated 9/1/2004 10:41:50 PM Central Daylight Time, wegandy1938@... writes: I shall take it soon. I intend to take it without doing even a nanosecond's review. That should tell me whether or not I am fit to be practicing in the streets. Stand by for.........NEWS! Mr. Grady Aha, but unless you've recently graduated from a class, you're required to take a 40 hr recert/review class....No???? I had intended to challenge the exam, so I'd know what our guys had to go through. But, I have neither the time nor the desire to sit through a review class. Kathi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2004 Report Share Posted September 1, 2004 Hey Gene, She's right. I would like to take it.... but alas. I must sit through a class, and I dont have time for that. Tom LeNeveu Learning Paramedic EMStock2004 was a RESOUNDING SUCCESS... Come See us Next year. _www.emstock.com_ (http://www.emstock.com/) _www.temsf.org_ (http://www.temsf.org/) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2004 Report Share Posted September 1, 2004 Hey Gene, She's right. I would like to take it.... but alas. I must sit through a class, and I dont have time for that. Tom LeNeveu Learning Paramedic EMStock2004 was a RESOUNDING SUCCESS... Come See us Next year. _www.emstock.com_ (http://www.emstock.com/) _www.temsf.org_ (http://www.temsf.org/) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2004 Report Share Posted September 1, 2004 Hey Gene, She's right. I would like to take it.... but alas. I must sit through a class, and I dont have time for that. Tom LeNeveu Learning Paramedic EMStock2004 was a RESOUNDING SUCCESS... Come See us Next year. _www.emstock.com_ (http://www.emstock.com/) _www.temsf.org_ (http://www.temsf.org/) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 Well, I teach the class. I wonder if they'll accept that? Hmmmm. Gene In a message dated 9/1/04 23:51:46 Central Daylight Time, FireMedic1633@... writes: > Subj:Re: Re: Entrance testing/NR question > Date:9/1/04 23:51:46 Central Daylight Time > From:FireMedic1633@... > Reply-to: > To: > Sent from the Internet > > > > Hey Gene, > > She's right. I would like to take it.... but alas. I must sit through a > class, and I dont have time for that. > > > Tom LeNeveu > Learning Paramedic > > EMStock2004 was a RESOUNDING SUCCESS... Come See us Next year. > _www.emstock.com_ (http://www.emstock.com/) > _www.temsf.org_ (http://www.temsf.org/) > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 Well, I teach the class. I wonder if they'll accept that? Hmmmm. Gene In a message dated 9/1/04 23:51:46 Central Daylight Time, FireMedic1633@... writes: > Subj:Re: Re: Entrance testing/NR question > Date:9/1/04 23:51:46 Central Daylight Time > From:FireMedic1633@... > Reply-to: > To: > Sent from the Internet > > > > Hey Gene, > > She's right. I would like to take it.... but alas. I must sit through a > class, and I dont have time for that. > > > Tom LeNeveu > Learning Paramedic > > EMStock2004 was a RESOUNDING SUCCESS... Come See us Next year. > _www.emstock.com_ (http://www.emstock.com/) > _www.temsf.org_ (http://www.temsf.org/) > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 Well, I teach the class. I wonder if they'll accept that? Hmmmm. Gene In a message dated 9/1/04 23:51:46 Central Daylight Time, FireMedic1633@... writes: > Subj:Re: Re: Entrance testing/NR question > Date:9/1/04 23:51:46 Central Daylight Time > From:FireMedic1633@... > Reply-to: > To: > Sent from the Internet > > > > Hey Gene, > > She's right. I would like to take it.... but alas. I must sit through a > class, and I dont have time for that. > > > Tom LeNeveu > Learning Paramedic > > EMStock2004 was a RESOUNDING SUCCESS... Come See us Next year. > _www.emstock.com_ (http://www.emstock.com/) > _www.temsf.org_ (http://www.temsf.org/) > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 In a message dated 9/2/2004 7:41:42 PM Central Daylight Time, wegandy1938@... writes: Well, I teach the class. I wonder if they'll accept that? Hmmmm. Gene When and where is your next class?? Kathi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 In a message dated 9/2/2004 7:41:42 PM Central Daylight Time, wegandy1938@... writes: Well, I teach the class. I wonder if they'll accept that? Hmmmm. Gene When and where is your next class?? Kathi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 In a message dated 9/2/2004 7:41:42 PM Central Daylight Time, wegandy1938@... writes: Well, I teach the class. I wonder if they'll accept that? Hmmmm. Gene When and where is your next class?? Kathi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 Kathi, I do my teaching for TechPro Services, so I'm forwarding your email to Lee to answer. I'm not sure when the next class is scheduled, but I'll let him know that you're interested. Gene In a message dated 9/2/04 20:45:07 Central Daylight Time, T68b@... writes: > Subj:Re: Re: Entrance testing/NR question > Date:9/2/04 20:45:07 Central Daylight Time > From:T68b@... > Reply-to: > To: > Sent from the Internet > > > > In a message dated 9/2/2004 7:41:42 PM Central Daylight Time, > wegandy1938@... writes: > Well, I teach the class. I wonder if they'll accept that? Hmmmm. > > Gene > When and where is your next class?? > Kathi > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 Kathi, I do my teaching for TechPro Services, so I'm forwarding your email to Lee to answer. I'm not sure when the next class is scheduled, but I'll let him know that you're interested. Gene In a message dated 9/2/04 20:45:07 Central Daylight Time, T68b@... writes: > Subj:Re: Re: Entrance testing/NR question > Date:9/2/04 20:45:07 Central Daylight Time > From:T68b@... > Reply-to: > To: > Sent from the Internet > > > > In a message dated 9/2/2004 7:41:42 PM Central Daylight Time, > wegandy1938@... writes: > Well, I teach the class. I wonder if they'll accept that? Hmmmm. > > Gene > When and where is your next class?? > Kathi > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 Kathi, I do my teaching for TechPro Services, so I'm forwarding your email to Lee to answer. I'm not sure when the next class is scheduled, but I'll let him know that you're interested. Gene In a message dated 9/2/04 20:45:07 Central Daylight Time, T68b@... writes: > Subj:Re: Re: Entrance testing/NR question > Date:9/2/04 20:45:07 Central Daylight Time > From:T68b@... > Reply-to: > To: > Sent from the Internet > > > > In a message dated 9/2/2004 7:41:42 PM Central Daylight Time, > wegandy1938@... writes: > Well, I teach the class. I wonder if they'll accept that? Hmmmm. > > Gene > When and where is your next class?? > Kathi > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 Actually, there are ways to bypass the class if you can prove your CE blocks match the requirements in the list - just call NR and talk to them - they will explain. They don't really expect folks who teach this stuff all the time to still have to take a refresher - what you teach counts I believe. Jane -------------- Original message from FireMedic1633@...: -------------- Hey Gene, She's right. I would like to take it.... but alas. I must sit through a class, and I dont have time for that. Tom LeNeveu Learning Paramedic EMStock2004 was a RESOUNDING SUCCESS... Come See us Next year. _www.emstock.com_ (http://www.emstock.com/) _www.temsf.org_ (http://www.temsf.org/) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 Actually, there are ways to bypass the class if you can prove your CE blocks match the requirements in the list - just call NR and talk to them - they will explain. They don't really expect folks who teach this stuff all the time to still have to take a refresher - what you teach counts I believe. Jane -------------- Original message from FireMedic1633@...: -------------- Hey Gene, She's right. I would like to take it.... but alas. I must sit through a class, and I dont have time for that. Tom LeNeveu Learning Paramedic EMStock2004 was a RESOUNDING SUCCESS... Come See us Next year. _www.emstock.com_ (http://www.emstock.com/) _www.temsf.org_ (http://www.temsf.org/) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 Actually, there are ways to bypass the class if you can prove your CE blocks match the requirements in the list - just call NR and talk to them - they will explain. They don't really expect folks who teach this stuff all the time to still have to take a refresher - what you teach counts I believe. Jane -------------- Original message from FireMedic1633@...: -------------- Hey Gene, She's right. I would like to take it.... but alas. I must sit through a class, and I dont have time for that. Tom LeNeveu Learning Paramedic EMStock2004 was a RESOUNDING SUCCESS... Come See us Next year. _www.emstock.com_ (http://www.emstock.com/) _www.temsf.org_ (http://www.temsf.org/) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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