Re: Thyroid Test Resutls and DHEA-S

[Guest guest]

You are definitely in need of thyroid hormone. If you are mercury toxic,

you need to support your adrenals before taking thyroid hormone; no doubt.

You can do this with " Isocort " which is sold over the internet if you cannot

get hydrocortisone or Cortef prescribed. The best thyroid hormone for us

mercury toxic folks is a T4/T3 combo, like Armour or Thyrolar, but not T4

alone like Synthroid.

This group can help you further with any questions, but the

naturalthyroidhormones group which many of us here belong to also is very

very knowledgable about thyroid. You could try posting your results there

as well, and they will tell you you are hypothyroid, since the TSH reference

range was officially changed to a cut off of " 3 " a couple of years ago, but

even the labs haven't caught on yet, and most doctors don't even seem to

know this for some very odd reason. This is why we cannot trust them

anymore. Now, the endocrinology Association of America is looking to change

it again to a cut-off of 2. You are hypo with those ranges in my humble

opinion.

Thyroid Test Resutls and DHEA-S

> Hello,

>

> I got some results from blood testing.. I asked for all the thyroid

> tests Andy recommends but I only got the following.. (neither doctors

> nor hospitals here seem to be are aware of all these!!.. it is really

> confusing).. Anyway I had to work with two separate doctors, and I am

> hoping I can still have the rest of them, hopefully soon...

>

> So, please let me know what you think.. about the following: ( I am a

> male)

>

>

> ANALYSIS RESULTS UNITS NORMAL RANGE

>

> * TSH 6,35 mU/L (0,35 - 5,00)

> * Free T4 11,5 pmol/L (7,0 - 16,0)

> (free thyroxin)

>

> * Total T3 1,5 nmol/L (1,3 - 2,7)

>

> Thyroid Antibodies:

>

> * Anti-microsom (TPO) 3 KUI/L Negative: below 60

> Doubtful: 60-100

> Positive: above 100

>

> * Anti-thyroglobulin 9 KUI/L Negative: below 60

> Doubtful: 60 - 100

> Positive: above 100

>

> * DHEA-S 4,8 ymol/L Reference Rage

> Female: 0,90 - 11,70

> Male: 2,20 - 15.20

>

> Could anybody please tell me if they see something in these results

> and let me know... I will appreciate it very much... thanks..

>

> Michel

>

> Quebec-Canada

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

You are definitely in need of thyroid hormone. If you are mercury toxic,

you need to support your adrenals before taking thyroid hormone; no doubt.

You can do this with " Isocort " which is sold over the internet if you cannot

get hydrocortisone or Cortef prescribed. The best thyroid hormone for us

mercury toxic folks is a T4/T3 combo, like Armour or Thyrolar, but not T4

alone like Synthroid.

This group can help you further with any questions, but the

naturalthyroidhormones group which many of us here belong to also is very

very knowledgable about thyroid. You could try posting your results there

as well, and they will tell you you are hypothyroid, since the TSH reference

range was officially changed to a cut off of " 3 " a couple of years ago, but

even the labs haven't caught on yet, and most doctors don't even seem to

know this for some very odd reason. This is why we cannot trust them

anymore. Now, the endocrinology Association of America is looking to change

it again to a cut-off of 2. You are hypo with those ranges in my humble

opinion.

Thyroid Test Resutls and DHEA-S

> Hello,

>

> I got some results from blood testing.. I asked for all the thyroid

> tests Andy recommends but I only got the following.. (neither doctors

> nor hospitals here seem to be are aware of all these!!.. it is really

> confusing).. Anyway I had to work with two separate doctors, and I am

> hoping I can still have the rest of them, hopefully soon...

>

> So, please let me know what you think.. about the following: ( I am a

> male)

>

>

> ANALYSIS RESULTS UNITS NORMAL RANGE

>

> * TSH 6,35 mU/L (0,35 - 5,00)

> * Free T4 11,5 pmol/L (7,0 - 16,0)

> (free thyroxin)

>

> * Total T3 1,5 nmol/L (1,3 - 2,7)

>

> Thyroid Antibodies:

>

> * Anti-microsom (TPO) 3 KUI/L Negative: below 60

> Doubtful: 60-100

> Positive: above 100

>

> * Anti-thyroglobulin 9 KUI/L Negative: below 60

> Doubtful: 60 - 100

> Positive: above 100

>

> * DHEA-S 4,8 ymol/L Reference Rage

> Female: 0,90 - 11,70

> Male: 2,20 - 15.20

>

> Could anybody please tell me if they see something in these results

> and let me know... I will appreciate it very much... thanks..

>

> Michel

>

> Quebec-Canada

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Michel,

To be optimal, a Free T4 should be at least half-way in range, and the Free

T3 should be in the upper third or even over range. Your Free T4 is there,

but your T3 is way too low. Your high TSH shows that your pituitary is

trying mightily to stimulate your hormone. In a way you're lucky, because

the one indicator that a lot of docs go by to tell if you're hypo is the

TSH, and your TSH shows you need thyroid supplementation. It's hard to tell

exactly with a Total T3 instead of a Free T3, but since your T3 is so much

lower than your T4, your body might have trouble converting T4 to T3.

Selenium can be helpful for that.

The optimal thyroid treatment is dessicated natural thyroid such as Armour.

Avoid any T4 only meds such as Synthroid.

Lynn

> I got some results from blood testing.. I asked for all the thyroid

> tests Andy recommends but I only got the following.. (neither doctors

> nor hospitals here seem to be are aware of all these!!.. it is really

> confusing).. Anyway I had to work with two separate doctors, and I am

> hoping I can still have the rest of them, hopefully soon...

>

> So, please let me know what you think.. about the following: ( I am a

> male)

>

>

> ANALYSIS RESULTS UNITS NORMAL RANGE

>

> * TSH 6,35 mU/L (0,35 - 5,00)

> * Free T4 11,5 pmol/L (7,0 - 16,0)

> (free thyroxin)

>

> * Total T3 1,5 nmol/L (1,3 - 2,7)

>

> Thyroid Antibodies:

>

> * Anti-microsom (TPO) 3 KUI/L Negative: below 60

> Doubtful: 60-100

> Positive: above 100

>

> * Anti-thyroglobulin 9 KUI/L Negative: below 60

> Doubtful: 60 - 100

> Positive: above 100

>

> * DHEA-S 4,8 ymol/L Reference Rage

> Female: 0,90 - 11,70

> Male: 2,20 - 15.20

> Michel

[Guest guest]

Michel,

To be optimal, a Free T4 should be at least half-way in range, and the Free

T3 should be in the upper third or even over range. Your Free T4 is there,

but your T3 is way too low. Your high TSH shows that your pituitary is

trying mightily to stimulate your hormone. In a way you're lucky, because

the one indicator that a lot of docs go by to tell if you're hypo is the

TSH, and your TSH shows you need thyroid supplementation. It's hard to tell

exactly with a Total T3 instead of a Free T3, but since your T3 is so much

lower than your T4, your body might have trouble converting T4 to T3.

Selenium can be helpful for that.

The optimal thyroid treatment is dessicated natural thyroid such as Armour.

Avoid any T4 only meds such as Synthroid.

Lynn

> I got some results from blood testing.. I asked for all the thyroid

> tests Andy recommends but I only got the following.. (neither doctors

> nor hospitals here seem to be are aware of all these!!.. it is really

> confusing).. Anyway I had to work with two separate doctors, and I am

> hoping I can still have the rest of them, hopefully soon...

>

> So, please let me know what you think.. about the following: ( I am a

> male)

>

>

> ANALYSIS RESULTS UNITS NORMAL RANGE

>

> * TSH 6,35 mU/L (0,35 - 5,00)

> * Free T4 11,5 pmol/L (7,0 - 16,0)

> (free thyroxin)

>

> * Total T3 1,5 nmol/L (1,3 - 2,7)

>

> Thyroid Antibodies:

>

> * Anti-microsom (TPO) 3 KUI/L Negative: below 60

> Doubtful: 60-100

> Positive: above 100

>

> * Anti-thyroglobulin 9 KUI/L Negative: below 60

> Doubtful: 60 - 100

> Positive: above 100

>

> * DHEA-S 4,8 ymol/L Reference Rage

> Female: 0,90 - 11,70

> Male: 2,20 - 15.20

> Michel

[Guest guest]

Michel,

To be optimal, a Free T4 should be at least half-way in range, and the Free

T3 should be in the upper third or even over range. Your Free T4 is there,

but your T3 is way too low. Your high TSH shows that your pituitary is

trying mightily to stimulate your hormone. In a way you're lucky, because

the one indicator that a lot of docs go by to tell if you're hypo is the

TSH, and your TSH shows you need thyroid supplementation. It's hard to tell

exactly with a Total T3 instead of a Free T3, but since your T3 is so much

lower than your T4, your body might have trouble converting T4 to T3.

Selenium can be helpful for that.

The optimal thyroid treatment is dessicated natural thyroid such as Armour.

Avoid any T4 only meds such as Synthroid.

Lynn

> I got some results from blood testing.. I asked for all the thyroid

> tests Andy recommends but I only got the following.. (neither doctors

> nor hospitals here seem to be are aware of all these!!.. it is really

> confusing).. Anyway I had to work with two separate doctors, and I am

> hoping I can still have the rest of them, hopefully soon...

>

> So, please let me know what you think.. about the following: ( I am a

> male)

>

>

> ANALYSIS RESULTS UNITS NORMAL RANGE

>

> * TSH 6,35 mU/L (0,35 - 5,00)

> * Free T4 11,5 pmol/L (7,0 - 16,0)

> (free thyroxin)

>

> * Total T3 1,5 nmol/L (1,3 - 2,7)

>

> Thyroid Antibodies:

>

> * Anti-microsom (TPO) 3 KUI/L Negative: below 60

> Doubtful: 60-100

> Positive: above 100

>

> * Anti-thyroglobulin 9 KUI/L Negative: below 60

> Doubtful: 60 - 100

> Positive: above 100

>

> * DHEA-S 4,8 ymol/L Reference Rage

> Female: 0,90 - 11,70

> Male: 2,20 - 15.20

> Michel

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your answer and explanations.. I am hoping to get

the rest of the results some day.. could you please give me the

complete link for the Naturalthyroidhormones.. thanks.. I think I am

going to post these results there as well..

You mention adrenal support before thyroid hormones.. you know I am

vegetarian.. are these products you mentioned suitable for

vegetarians.. otherwise are there any alternatives.. thanks again.. I

would have no problem asking an open minded doc to prescribe me these

but I have to make sure they are suitable for vegetarians...

Have a good day,

Michel

>

> You are definitely in need of thyroid hormone. If you are mercury

toxic,

> you need to support your adrenals before taking thyroid hormone; no

doubt.

> You can do this with " Isocort " which is sold over the internet if

you cannot

> get hydrocortisone or Cortef prescribed. The best thyroid hormone

for us

> mercury toxic folks is a T4/T3 combo, like Armour or Thyrolar, but

not T4

> alone like Synthroid.

>

> This group can help you further with any questions, but the

> naturalthyroidhormones group which many of us here belong to also

is very

> very knowledgable about thyroid. You could try posting your

results there

> as well, and they will tell you you are hypothyroid, since the TSH

reference

> range was officially changed to a cut off of " 3 " a couple of years

ago, but

> even the labs haven't caught on yet, and most doctors don't even

seem to

> know this for some very odd reason. This is why we cannot trust

them

> anymore. Now, the endocrinology Association of America is looking

to change

> it again to a cut-off of 2. You are hypo with those ranges in my

humble

> opinion.

>

>

> Thyroid Test Resutls and DHEA-S

>

>

> > Hello,

> >

> > I got some results from blood testing.. I asked for all the

thyroid

> > tests Andy recommends but I only got the following.. (neither

doctors

> > nor hospitals here seem to be are aware of all these!!.. it is

really

> > confusing).. Anyway I had to work with two separate doctors, and

I am

> > hoping I can still have the rest of them, hopefully soon...

> >

> > So, please let me know what you think.. about the following: ( I

am a

> > male)

> >

> >

> > ANALYSIS RESULTS UNITS NORMAL RANGE

> >

> > * TSH 6,35 mU/L (0,35 - 5,00)

> > * Free T4 11,5 pmol/L (7,0 - 16,0)

> > (free thyroxin)

> >

> > * Total T3 1,5 nmol/L (1,3 - 2,7)

> >

> > Thyroid Antibodies:

> >

> > * Anti-microsom (TPO) 3 KUI/L Negative: below 60

> > Doubtful: 60-100

> > Positive: above 100

> >

> > * Anti-thyroglobulin 9 KUI/L Negative: below 60

> > Doubtful: 60 - 100

> > Positive: above 100

> >

> > * DHEA-S 4,8 ymol/L Reference Rage

> > Female: 0,90 - 11,70

> > Male: 2,20 - 15.20

> >

> > Could anybody please tell me if they see something in these

results

> > and let me know... I will appreciate it very much... thanks..

> >

> > Michel

> >

> > Quebec-Canada

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your answer and explanations.. I am hoping to get

the rest of the results some day.. could you please give me the

complete link for the Naturalthyroidhormones.. thanks.. I think I am

going to post these results there as well..

You mention adrenal support before thyroid hormones.. you know I am

vegetarian.. are these products you mentioned suitable for

vegetarians.. otherwise are there any alternatives.. thanks again.. I

would have no problem asking an open minded doc to prescribe me these

but I have to make sure they are suitable for vegetarians...

Have a good day,

Michel

>

> You are definitely in need of thyroid hormone. If you are mercury

toxic,

> you need to support your adrenals before taking thyroid hormone; no

doubt.

> You can do this with " Isocort " which is sold over the internet if

you cannot

> get hydrocortisone or Cortef prescribed. The best thyroid hormone

for us

> mercury toxic folks is a T4/T3 combo, like Armour or Thyrolar, but

not T4

> alone like Synthroid.

>

> This group can help you further with any questions, but the

> naturalthyroidhormones group which many of us here belong to also

is very

> very knowledgable about thyroid. You could try posting your

results there

> as well, and they will tell you you are hypothyroid, since the TSH

reference

> range was officially changed to a cut off of " 3 " a couple of years

ago, but

> even the labs haven't caught on yet, and most doctors don't even

seem to

> know this for some very odd reason. This is why we cannot trust

them

> anymore. Now, the endocrinology Association of America is looking

to change

> it again to a cut-off of 2. You are hypo with those ranges in my

humble

> opinion.

>

>

> Thyroid Test Resutls and DHEA-S

>

>

> > Hello,

> >

> > I got some results from blood testing.. I asked for all the

thyroid

> > tests Andy recommends but I only got the following.. (neither

doctors

> > nor hospitals here seem to be are aware of all these!!.. it is

really

> > confusing).. Anyway I had to work with two separate doctors, and

I am

> > hoping I can still have the rest of them, hopefully soon...

> >

> > So, please let me know what you think.. about the following: ( I

am a

> > male)

> >

> >

> > ANALYSIS RESULTS UNITS NORMAL RANGE

> >

> > * TSH 6,35 mU/L (0,35 - 5,00)

> > * Free T4 11,5 pmol/L (7,0 - 16,0)

> > (free thyroxin)

> >

> > * Total T3 1,5 nmol/L (1,3 - 2,7)

> >

> > Thyroid Antibodies:

> >

> > * Anti-microsom (TPO) 3 KUI/L Negative: below 60

> > Doubtful: 60-100

> > Positive: above 100

> >

> > * Anti-thyroglobulin 9 KUI/L Negative: below 60

> > Doubtful: 60 - 100

> > Positive: above 100

> >

> > * DHEA-S 4,8 ymol/L Reference Rage

> > Female: 0,90 - 11,70

> > Male: 2,20 - 15.20

> >

> > Could anybody please tell me if they see something in these

results

> > and let me know... I will appreciate it very much... thanks..

> >

> > Michel

> >

> > Quebec-Canada

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your answer and explanations.. I am hoping to get

the rest of the results some day.. could you please give me the

complete link for the Naturalthyroidhormones.. thanks.. I think I am

going to post these results there as well..

You mention adrenal support before thyroid hormones.. you know I am

vegetarian.. are these products you mentioned suitable for

vegetarians.. otherwise are there any alternatives.. thanks again.. I

would have no problem asking an open minded doc to prescribe me these

but I have to make sure they are suitable for vegetarians...

Have a good day,

Michel

>

> You are definitely in need of thyroid hormone. If you are mercury

toxic,

> you need to support your adrenals before taking thyroid hormone; no

doubt.

> You can do this with " Isocort " which is sold over the internet if

you cannot

> get hydrocortisone or Cortef prescribed. The best thyroid hormone

for us

> mercury toxic folks is a T4/T3 combo, like Armour or Thyrolar, but

not T4

> alone like Synthroid.

>

> This group can help you further with any questions, but the

> naturalthyroidhormones group which many of us here belong to also

is very

> very knowledgable about thyroid. You could try posting your

results there

> as well, and they will tell you you are hypothyroid, since the TSH

reference

> range was officially changed to a cut off of " 3 " a couple of years

ago, but

> even the labs haven't caught on yet, and most doctors don't even

seem to

> know this for some very odd reason. This is why we cannot trust

them

> anymore. Now, the endocrinology Association of America is looking

to change

> it again to a cut-off of 2. You are hypo with those ranges in my

humble

> opinion.

>

>

> Thyroid Test Resutls and DHEA-S

>

>

> > Hello,

> >

> > I got some results from blood testing.. I asked for all the

thyroid

> > tests Andy recommends but I only got the following.. (neither

doctors

> > nor hospitals here seem to be are aware of all these!!.. it is

really

> > confusing).. Anyway I had to work with two separate doctors, and

I am

> > hoping I can still have the rest of them, hopefully soon...

> >

> > So, please let me know what you think.. about the following: ( I

am a

> > male)

> >

> >

> > ANALYSIS RESULTS UNITS NORMAL RANGE

> >

> > * TSH 6,35 mU/L (0,35 - 5,00)

> > * Free T4 11,5 pmol/L (7,0 - 16,0)

> > (free thyroxin)

> >

> > * Total T3 1,5 nmol/L (1,3 - 2,7)

> >

> > Thyroid Antibodies:

> >

> > * Anti-microsom (TPO) 3 KUI/L Negative: below 60

> > Doubtful: 60-100

> > Positive: above 100

> >

> > * Anti-thyroglobulin 9 KUI/L Negative: below 60

> > Doubtful: 60 - 100

> > Positive: above 100

> >

> > * DHEA-S 4,8 ymol/L Reference Rage

> > Female: 0,90 - 11,70

> > Male: 2,20 - 15.20

> >

> > Could anybody please tell me if they see something in these

results

> > and let me know... I will appreciate it very much... thanks..

> >

> > Michel

> >

> > Quebec-Canada

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks Lynn very much for your kind explanation.. I am hoping to get

the rest of the results soon (in case the hospital understood the doc

prescription, and I am not sure about that..)..

anyway as I mentioned earlier I am vegetarian.. Is Armour suitable

for vegetarians? It sounds like an animal product to me.. Are there

any alternatives; I think I've heard of some herbs for that.. but I

don't remember which..

Have a good day,

Michel

>

> Michel,

> To be optimal, a Free T4 should be at least half-way in range, and

the Free

> T3 should be in the upper third or even over range. Your Free T4

is there,

> but your T3 is way too low. Your high TSH shows that your

pituitary is

> trying mightily to stimulate your hormone. In a way you're lucky,

because

> the one indicator that a lot of docs go by to tell if you're hypo

is the

> TSH, and your TSH shows you need thyroid supplementation. It's

hard to tell

> exactly with a Total T3 instead of a Free T3, but since your T3 is

so much

> lower than your T4, your body might have trouble converting T4 to

T3.

> Selenium can be helpful for that.

>

> The optimal thyroid treatment is dessicated natural thyroid such as

Armour.

> Avoid any T4 only meds such as Synthroid.

>

> Lynn

>

>

> > I got some results from blood testing.. I asked for all the

thyroid

> > tests Andy recommends but I only got the following.. (neither

doctors

> > nor hospitals here seem to be are aware of all these!!.. it is

really

> > confusing).. Anyway I had to work with two separate doctors, and

I am

> > hoping I can still have the rest of them, hopefully soon...

> >

> > So, please let me know what you think.. about the following: ( I

am a

> > male)

> >

> >

> > ANALYSIS RESULTS UNITS NORMAL RANGE

> >

> > * TSH 6,35 mU/L (0,35 - 5,00)

> > * Free T4 11,5 pmol/L (7,0 - 16,0)

> > (free thyroxin)

> >

> > * Total T3 1,5 nmol/L (1,3 - 2,7)

> >

> > Thyroid Antibodies:

> >

> > * Anti-microsom (TPO) 3 KUI/L Negative: below 60

> > Doubtful: 60-100

> > Positive: above 100

> >

> > * Anti-thyroglobulin 9 KUI/L Negative: below 60

> > Doubtful: 60 - 100

> > Positive: above 100

> >

> > * DHEA-S 4,8 ymol/L Reference Rage

> > Female: 0,90 - 11,70

> > Male: 2,20 - 15.20

> > Michel

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Lynn very much for your kind explanation.. I am hoping to get

the rest of the results soon (in case the hospital understood the doc

prescription, and I am not sure about that..)..

anyway as I mentioned earlier I am vegetarian.. Is Armour suitable

for vegetarians? It sounds like an animal product to me.. Are there

any alternatives; I think I've heard of some herbs for that.. but I

don't remember which..

Have a good day,

Michel

>

> Michel,

> To be optimal, a Free T4 should be at least half-way in range, and

the Free

> T3 should be in the upper third or even over range. Your Free T4

is there,

> but your T3 is way too low. Your high TSH shows that your

pituitary is

> trying mightily to stimulate your hormone. In a way you're lucky,

because

> the one indicator that a lot of docs go by to tell if you're hypo

is the

> TSH, and your TSH shows you need thyroid supplementation. It's

hard to tell

> exactly with a Total T3 instead of a Free T3, but since your T3 is

so much

> lower than your T4, your body might have trouble converting T4 to

T3.

> Selenium can be helpful for that.

>

> The optimal thyroid treatment is dessicated natural thyroid such as

Armour.

> Avoid any T4 only meds such as Synthroid.

>

> Lynn

>

>

> > I got some results from blood testing.. I asked for all the

thyroid

> > tests Andy recommends but I only got the following.. (neither

doctors

> > nor hospitals here seem to be are aware of all these!!.. it is

really

> > confusing).. Anyway I had to work with two separate doctors, and

I am

> > hoping I can still have the rest of them, hopefully soon...

> >

> > So, please let me know what you think.. about the following: ( I

am a

> > male)

> >

> >

> > ANALYSIS RESULTS UNITS NORMAL RANGE

> >

> > * TSH 6,35 mU/L (0,35 - 5,00)

> > * Free T4 11,5 pmol/L (7,0 - 16,0)

> > (free thyroxin)

> >

> > * Total T3 1,5 nmol/L (1,3 - 2,7)

> >

> > Thyroid Antibodies:

> >

> > * Anti-microsom (TPO) 3 KUI/L Negative: below 60

> > Doubtful: 60-100

> > Positive: above 100

> >

> > * Anti-thyroglobulin 9 KUI/L Negative: below 60

> > Doubtful: 60 - 100

> > Positive: above 100

> >

> > * DHEA-S 4,8 ymol/L Reference Rage

> > Female: 0,90 - 11,70

> > Male: 2,20 - 15.20

> > Michel

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Lynn,,

Thanks again for this new information. Yes, I did post my DDI Hair

Test results on this list, it is post # 8652. If you don't mind

having a look, maybe you could find more elements regarding Thyroid..

Also, somewhere (I don't remember if it was on this forum) I found

some advice regarding Herbs to help with Thyroid function as follows:

* Bladderwrack (fucus vesiculosus):it's form of Kelp

* Licorice

* Saw Palmetto

What do you think about these herbs/supplements.. are they worth

trying?

Many thanks..

Michel

>

> > anyway as I mentioned earlier I am vegetarian.. Is Armour suitable

> > for vegetarians? It sounds like an animal product to me.. Are

there

> > any alternatives; I think I've heard of some herbs for that.. but

I

> > don't remember which..

> > Have a good day,

> > Michel

>

> I missed your earlier mention of being vegetarian. Armour is

dessicated

> porcine thyroid - definitely an animal product - and it contains

T4, T3, T2,

> T1 and calcitonin. The alternative thyroid supplements are all

synthetic -

> a synthetic T4 only product such as Synthroid, a synthetic T3/T4

product

> such as thyrolar, or a synthetic T3 only product such as Cytomel.

The

> synthetics do not exactly match the form of T3 and T4 found in

humans, the

> piggy stuff does. The function of T1 and T2 is not well known, but

recent

> research shows they play a role in metabolism. Calcitonin is used

in

> building bone. So you could take the synthetic stuff, but in the

opinion of

> most of us on the Natural Thyroid Hormone yahoo site, you would be

taking an

> inferior product that leaves many people still suffering with hypo

symptoms.

>

> Sometimes low thyroid function will respond to optimization of

mineral

> balance. You might consider taking iodine/iodide such as Lugol's

solution -

> sometimes low iodine/iodide causes hypothyroidism. Selenium

deficiency will

> interfere with T4 to T3 confersion. I think this article has a

good

> discussion of factors affecting thyroid function

> http://www.drlwilson.com/Articles/thyroid.htm. Of course mercury

can

> interfere with thyroid metabolism, and chelating may eventually

improve it

> for you. Have you done a hair analysis?

>

> Lynn

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Lynn,,

Thanks again for this new information. Yes, I did post my DDI Hair

Test results on this list, it is post # 8652. If you don't mind

having a look, maybe you could find more elements regarding Thyroid..

Also, somewhere (I don't remember if it was on this forum) I found

some advice regarding Herbs to help with Thyroid function as follows:

* Bladderwrack (fucus vesiculosus):it's form of Kelp

* Licorice

* Saw Palmetto

What do you think about these herbs/supplements.. are they worth

trying?

Many thanks..

Michel

>

> > anyway as I mentioned earlier I am vegetarian.. Is Armour suitable

> > for vegetarians? It sounds like an animal product to me.. Are

there

> > any alternatives; I think I've heard of some herbs for that.. but

I

> > don't remember which..

> > Have a good day,

> > Michel

>

> I missed your earlier mention of being vegetarian. Armour is

dessicated

> porcine thyroid - definitely an animal product - and it contains

T4, T3, T2,

> T1 and calcitonin. The alternative thyroid supplements are all

synthetic -

> a synthetic T4 only product such as Synthroid, a synthetic T3/T4

product

> such as thyrolar, or a synthetic T3 only product such as Cytomel.

The

> synthetics do not exactly match the form of T3 and T4 found in

humans, the

> piggy stuff does. The function of T1 and T2 is not well known, but

recent

> research shows they play a role in metabolism. Calcitonin is used

in

> building bone. So you could take the synthetic stuff, but in the

opinion of

> most of us on the Natural Thyroid Hormone yahoo site, you would be

taking an

> inferior product that leaves many people still suffering with hypo

symptoms.

>

> Sometimes low thyroid function will respond to optimization of

mineral

> balance. You might consider taking iodine/iodide such as Lugol's

solution -

> sometimes low iodine/iodide causes hypothyroidism. Selenium

deficiency will

> interfere with T4 to T3 confersion. I think this article has a

good

> discussion of factors affecting thyroid function

> http://www.drlwilson.com/Articles/thyroid.htm. Of course mercury

can

> interfere with thyroid metabolism, and chelating may eventually

improve it

> for you. Have you done a hair analysis?

>

> Lynn

>

[Guest guest]

Michel,

The link to the group is:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormones/

In Canada there is a product called " Thyroid " which is equivalent to

Armour. I think it is from pig thyroid, so wouldn't be vegetarian.

I am taking sustained release T3 (compounded) and (was

taking)Synthroid (T4). These are synthetic, so would be suitable. I

dropped the synthroid and am only taking the SR T3 now. I like it the

best of anything I have tried.

I think the Thyrolar might be synthetic. Would have to check with

your doc or pharmacist.

(Be careful talking about synthetics on the " natural " hormone group.

Might start a storm.

As others have mentioned, you are fairly 'lucky' that your TSH is

high. Getting thyroid hormone shouldn't be too difficult.

Regards

> >

> > You are definitely in need of thyroid hormone. If you are mercury

> toxic,

> > you need to support your adrenals before taking thyroid hormone; no

> doubt.

> > You can do this with " Isocort " which is sold over the internet if

> you cannot

> > get hydrocortisone or Cortef prescribed. The best thyroid hormone

> for us

> > mercury toxic folks is a T4/T3 combo, like Armour or Thyrolar, but

> not T4

> > alone like Synthroid.

> >

> > This group can help you further with any questions, but the

> > naturalthyroidhormones group which many of us here belong to also

> is very

> > very knowledgable about thyroid. You could try posting your

> results there

> > as well, and they will tell you you are hypothyroid, since the TSH

> reference

> > range was officially changed to a cut off of " 3 " a couple of years

> ago, but

> > even the labs haven't caught on yet, and most doctors don't even

> seem to

> > know this for some very odd reason. This is why we cannot trust

> them

> > anymore. Now, the endocrinology Association of America is looking

> to change

> > it again to a cut-off of 2. You are hypo with those ranges in my

> humble

> > opinion.

> >

> >

> > Thyroid Test Resutls and DHEA-S

> >

> >

> > > Hello,

> > >

> > > I got some results from blood testing.. I asked for all the

> thyroid

> > > tests Andy recommends but I only got the following.. (neither

> doctors

> > > nor hospitals here seem to be are aware of all these!!.. it is

> really

> > > confusing).. Anyway I had to work with two separate doctors, and

> I am

> > > hoping I can still have the rest of them, hopefully soon...

> > >

> > > So, please let me know what you think.. about the following: ( I

> am a

> > > male)

> > >

> > >

> > > ANALYSIS RESULTS UNITS NORMAL RANGE

> > >

> > > * TSH 6,35 mU/L (0,35 - 5,00)

> > > * Free T4 11,5 pmol/L (7,0 - 16,0)

> > > (free thyroxin)

> > >

> > > * Total T3 1,5 nmol/L (1,3 - 2,7)

> > >

> > > Thyroid Antibodies:

> > >

> > > * Anti-microsom (TPO) 3 KUI/L Negative: below 60

> > > Doubtful: 60-100

> > > Positive: above 100

> > >

> > > * Anti-thyroglobulin 9 KUI/L Negative: below 60

> > > Doubtful: 60 - 100

> > > Positive: above 100

> > >

> > > * DHEA-S 4,8 ymol/L Reference Rage

> > > Female: 0,90 - 11,70

> > > Male: 2,20 - 15.20

> > >

> > > Could anybody please tell me if they see something in these

> results

> > > and let me know... I will appreciate it very much... thanks..

> > >

> > > Michel

> > >

> > > Quebec-Canada

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >