Guest guest Posted April 21, 2006 Report Share Posted April 21, 2006 > > I've seen it mentioned that Sulphar containing food usually help chelate, like garlic? TK--- This is not quite correct. Sulfer mobilizes Hg and increases symptoms for those that do not need it. It helps those that do but one has to make crertain as sulfer foods can make you miserable. It is best to avoid them if you don't know. > > Can anybody add to the article I found below. It discussed Sulphates. (I'm not sure what the connection is with sulphurs or sulphites?). TK--- They are different and a lot of us do better with sulphites like with epsom salt which is magnesium sulfite. All I know is that my insomnia has been recently cured if I have a glass full of Epsom salts next to the bed. If I awake, I have a sip of it and then I'm put back to sleep? TK--- most of us are magnesium deficient along with sulfite, the magnesium is also a relaxant. > > I'm starting to wonder if this is more what I have been dealing with- a sulpahte defeciency, rather than yeast. Has anyone else experienced this? I'm also wondering if the mercury messed with this enzyme pathway as eczema symptoms and others started when I have my first amalgam at about 10. I only recently realised this. > > Thanks, > > dean > > http://www.enzymestuff.com/epsomsalts.htm > > Epsom Salts > > > Dr Rosemary Waring found that most people with autism conditions have a deficiency in a key detoxification pathway. The pathway involves using sulfur in the form of sulfate (known as sulfation). The enzyme involved is phenol sulfur-transferase (PST), but the problem is thought to hinge on an inadequate supply of usable sulfate ions, not the metabolic enzyme itself. > > Dr Waring found that most children on the autism spectrum are very low in sulfate and may be as low as 15 percent of the amount in neurologically typical people. People with low or no ability to convert compounds to sulfate have problems handling environmental chemicals, some medications, and even some chemicals produced within the body. They include people with other conditions such as Alzheimer's disease, Parkinson's disease, rheumatoid arthritis, and chemical sensitivities. > > The PST sulfation pathway is necessary for the breakdown and removal of certain toxins in the body. This includes the processing of a type of chemical called a phenol. Phenols are a regular and necessary part of life. All foods contain some phenolic compounds. However, some foods have a much higher content than others do. If the sulfation pathway is not functioning well, a person may not be able to process out the phenolic compounds as fast as they consume them. There is a cumulative effect. When the phenols start backing up in the system, it can cause a myriad of negative reactions. Symptoms of phenol intolerance include night waking, night sweats, irritability, eczema, and other skin conditions. The symptoms of phenol intolerance and yeast may be very similar because they both involve the body trying to deal with toxins. > > This detoxification pathway processes other phenolic compounds including salicylates (salicylates are a subset of phenols), artificial food colorings, artificial flavorings, and some preservatives. Besides requiring PST, research has found the salicylates further suppress the activity of any PST enzyme present, making matters worse. Food dyes also have been shown to inhibit the PST enzyme. > > .............. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 Dean - Also what is your source of Potassium bicarbonate? Thanks again. > What has helped me most with sleep is: > 1) Alkalinser drink - 1/4 teaspoon Sodium Bicar + 1/2 tsp Potassium Bicar > + 1/8 tsp Epsom salts. I take this drink and have a few sips before bed and > then keep next to bed. > 2) Just before bed I take a melatonin capsule (I think it is 3g) > 3) And about 2 capsules of ornithine. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 Thank you for sharing this....I have had alot of trouble getting back to sleep after dosing. I am a bit confused though because epsom salts is sulphuric and they recommend that you avoid sulphur foods--- like the evil garlic. Is there a difference? Dean wrote: Hi Terri, I take 1/8 - 1/4 tsp of Epsom salts in luke warm water in the morning with some magnesium oxide and lemon juice, and then throughout the day I take little pinches of Epsom salts in my water between meals (so I don't mix with food.) I believe I have a lack of sulphate, or an inability to convert into sulphates which are very important for detoxification I see (i think especially in the brain and liver). What has helped me most with sleep is: 1) Alkalinser drink - 1/4 teaspoon Sodium Bicar + 1/2 tsp Potassium Bicar + 1/8 tsp Epsom salts. I take this drink and have a few sips before bed and then keep next to bed. 2) Just before bed I take a melatonin capsule (I think it is 3g) 3) And about 2 capsules of ornithine. This has helped so much I can't tell you. Now when/if I wake at night I sip the Alkalinser drink and I go back to sleep almost instantly. If I don't some more ornithine will send me off. There is something about the sulphate in the Epsom salts that corrects some deficiency. It has also helped my stools to become darker and sink. If you have loose stools you are taking to much and must adapt the dose. I also find that as I chelate more metals out my sleep is better and deeper. Dean Re: Epsom Salts Dean - What ration of water to epsom salts do you use? I suffer from chronic insomnia and I would like to try that. Thanks. terri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2006 Report Share Posted May 1, 2006 > > I am a bit confused though because epsom salts is sulphuric and >they recommend that you avoid sulphur foods--- like the evil garlic. >Is there a difference? > Epsom salts is MgSO4. It is a different form of sulfur and does not act like sulfur foods. J > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2006 Report Share Posted May 1, 2006 Thanks everybody -- this is such good information to have! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2006 Report Share Posted May 5, 2006 Hi Dean, The ammonia issue r/t dental infections works for me and it makes sense that it is the reason for my wakefulness. Are there any other things that take up the ammonia? Thanks for posting, Dean wrote: >Are the ornithine capsules 500 mg? Is there a particular brand that you recommend? Yes they are. You can order from www.drclark.com for unpolluted products made according to her strict protocols preventing trace contamination. You take 2 the first night, 4 the second and 6 the third and then you simply stay on the dose that worked best. 6 will almost knock you out. It is an amino acid that mops up ammonia which is produced by infections (mostly gut and dental). Sop it gives you good information as to whether your insomnia is caused by this. Ammonia is 'smelling salts' used to wake people from a coma! So it is no wonder you're awake. (I wonder if the Epsom salts also helps here?) Then just keep some ornithine next to the bed and if you awake take some more and it should send you off again. It is completely safe as far as I know If the previous tips don't work well, add some tryptophan to the ingredients. I think it is about 1000mg two hours before bed? And if still no help something like 3000mg split up during a day. I'm not sure, as I never needed this >Dean - Also what is your source of Potassium bicarbonate? I live in South Africa, but given the option I would order all my products through the dr clark website. If you don't get it there you must make sure both products are USP grade. >Thank you for sharing this....I have had alot of trouble getting back to sleep after dosing. I am a bit confused though because >Epsom salts is sulphuric and they recommend that you avoid sulphur foods--- like the evil garlic. Is there a difference? I don't know the chemistry but Epsom salts is magnesium sulphate and the sulphate is NOT the same as a sulphur. I think TK knows more... Dean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2006 Report Share Posted May 5, 2006 Hi Dean, The ammonia issue r/t dental infections works for me and it makes sense that it is the reason for my wakefulness. Are there any other things that take up the ammonia? Thanks for posting, Dean wrote: >Are the ornithine capsules 500 mg? Is there a particular brand that you recommend? Yes they are. You can order from www.drclark.com for unpolluted products made according to her strict protocols preventing trace contamination. You take 2 the first night, 4 the second and 6 the third and then you simply stay on the dose that worked best. 6 will almost knock you out. It is an amino acid that mops up ammonia which is produced by infections (mostly gut and dental). Sop it gives you good information as to whether your insomnia is caused by this. Ammonia is 'smelling salts' used to wake people from a coma! So it is no wonder you're awake. (I wonder if the Epsom salts also helps here?) Then just keep some ornithine next to the bed and if you awake take some more and it should send you off again. It is completely safe as far as I know If the previous tips don't work well, add some tryptophan to the ingredients. I think it is about 1000mg two hours before bed? And if still no help something like 3000mg split up during a day. I'm not sure, as I never needed this >Dean - Also what is your source of Potassium bicarbonate? I live in South Africa, but given the option I would order all my products through the dr clark website. If you don't get it there you must make sure both products are USP grade. >Thank you for sharing this....I have had alot of trouble getting back to sleep after dosing. I am a bit confused though because >Epsom salts is sulphuric and they recommend that you avoid sulphur foods--- like the evil garlic. Is there a difference? I don't know the chemistry but Epsom salts is magnesium sulphate and the sulphate is NOT the same as a sulphur. I think TK knows more... Dean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2006 Report Share Posted May 5, 2006 Hi Dean, The ammonia issue r/t dental infections works for me and it makes sense that it is the reason for my wakefulness. Are there any other things that take up the ammonia? Thanks for posting, Dean wrote: >Are the ornithine capsules 500 mg? Is there a particular brand that you recommend? Yes they are. You can order from www.drclark.com for unpolluted products made according to her strict protocols preventing trace contamination. You take 2 the first night, 4 the second and 6 the third and then you simply stay on the dose that worked best. 6 will almost knock you out. It is an amino acid that mops up ammonia which is produced by infections (mostly gut and dental). Sop it gives you good information as to whether your insomnia is caused by this. Ammonia is 'smelling salts' used to wake people from a coma! So it is no wonder you're awake. (I wonder if the Epsom salts also helps here?) Then just keep some ornithine next to the bed and if you awake take some more and it should send you off again. It is completely safe as far as I know If the previous tips don't work well, add some tryptophan to the ingredients. I think it is about 1000mg two hours before bed? And if still no help something like 3000mg split up during a day. I'm not sure, as I never needed this >Dean - Also what is your source of Potassium bicarbonate? I live in South Africa, but given the option I would order all my products through the dr clark website. If you don't get it there you must make sure both products are USP grade. >Thank you for sharing this....I have had alot of trouble getting back to sleep after dosing. I am a bit confused though because >Epsom salts is sulphuric and they recommend that you avoid sulphur foods--- like the evil garlic. Is there a difference? I don't know the chemistry but Epsom salts is magnesium sulphate and the sulphate is NOT the same as a sulphur. I think TK knows more... Dean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2006 Report Share Posted May 5, 2006 HI , As I understand it (thanks to information from Hulda ): We make ammonia as a byproduct which is very toxic, but it is 'quickly' changed into non-toxic urea. Two ammonia molecules are changed into one urea molecule mostly in the kidneys and liver. We excrete it. Bacteria and fungus thrive on our excretions in nature. So you'll find that they have an enzyme called urease that converts urea back into 2 ammonia molecules. The element nickel is central to this enzyme urease. So where there is nickel there is bacteria and fungus - it is the key to their survival. Amalgam is an alloy and is often full of nickel, so are most old metal crowns. Having so much nickel in us effectively makes us look like fertile 'soil' to bacteria and fungus - so they colonize us. As long as there is a high supply of metal there will be these life forms as they have a metal dependency. AS soon as they are killed their successors snap us the metal to survive on. What better place to survive than in a body that is full of a constant supply of leeching metals from teeth. So you can never cure these illness until the metal is gone. Maybe that is why we get sicker as we age, because we accumulate metals as we age. Could chelation be one of the main keys to prevent diseases of aging? Anyway, when ammonia is shipped mainly to the liver for the urea synthesis cycle to make urea the amino acids ORNITHINE and ARGININE are needed and the basically speed up this cycle. Removing ammonia returns each cell to its alkaline state. Dr recommends you use as follows (usually this advice is for the parasite cleanse) " 4.) Ornithine Start by taking ornithine, 2 at bedtime on the first night you get it. Take 4 ornithines the second night. Take 6 ornithines at bedtime on the third night. After this take 4 or 6 ornithines at bedtime every night until you are sleeping soundly. Then go off ornithine and see whether your sleep is as good without it. It is not habit forming. 5.) Arginine Taking ornithine at bedtime may give you so much energy the next day that you don't need to take arginine in the morning. But if going off caffeine (recommended) has you dragging yourself through the morning, take one arginine upon rising and another before lunch and supper. It can make you a bit irritable. Cut back if this happens. " Hi Dean, The ammonia issue r/t dental infections works for me and it makes sense that it is the reason for my wakefulness. Are there any other things that take up the ammonia? Thanks for posting, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2006 Report Share Posted May 5, 2006 HI , As I understand it (thanks to information from Hulda ): We make ammonia as a byproduct which is very toxic, but it is 'quickly' changed into non-toxic urea. Two ammonia molecules are changed into one urea molecule mostly in the kidneys and liver. We excrete it. Bacteria and fungus thrive on our excretions in nature. So you'll find that they have an enzyme called urease that converts urea back into 2 ammonia molecules. The element nickel is central to this enzyme urease. So where there is nickel there is bacteria and fungus - it is the key to their survival. Amalgam is an alloy and is often full of nickel, so are most old metal crowns. Having so much nickel in us effectively makes us look like fertile 'soil' to bacteria and fungus - so they colonize us. As long as there is a high supply of metal there will be these life forms as they have a metal dependency. AS soon as they are killed their successors snap us the metal to survive on. What better place to survive than in a body that is full of a constant supply of leeching metals from teeth. So you can never cure these illness until the metal is gone. Maybe that is why we get sicker as we age, because we accumulate metals as we age. Could chelation be one of the main keys to prevent diseases of aging? Anyway, when ammonia is shipped mainly to the liver for the urea synthesis cycle to make urea the amino acids ORNITHINE and ARGININE are needed and the basically speed up this cycle. Removing ammonia returns each cell to its alkaline state. Dr recommends you use as follows (usually this advice is for the parasite cleanse) " 4.) Ornithine Start by taking ornithine, 2 at bedtime on the first night you get it. Take 4 ornithines the second night. Take 6 ornithines at bedtime on the third night. After this take 4 or 6 ornithines at bedtime every night until you are sleeping soundly. Then go off ornithine and see whether your sleep is as good without it. It is not habit forming. 5.) Arginine Taking ornithine at bedtime may give you so much energy the next day that you don't need to take arginine in the morning. But if going off caffeine (recommended) has you dragging yourself through the morning, take one arginine upon rising and another before lunch and supper. It can make you a bit irritable. Cut back if this happens. " Hi Dean, The ammonia issue r/t dental infections works for me and it makes sense that it is the reason for my wakefulness. Are there any other things that take up the ammonia? Thanks for posting, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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