Re: The Homeless and Shiftless

[Guest guest]

Eloquently stated Gene. I feel the same frustration, experienced the same too

throughout my career. You are so right; we are 'handcuffed' by powers that be.

In rereading the thread, since this individual seems to be begging, could

vagrancy and panhandling laws be of any use?

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Larry RN LP EMSI

[Guest guest]

Eloquently stated Gene. I feel the same frustration, experienced the same too

throughout my career. You are so right; we are 'handcuffed' by powers that be.

In rereading the thread, since this individual seems to be begging, could

vagrancy and panhandling laws be of any use?

If you can read this, thank a teacher

If you can comment freely on this, thank a soldier

Larry RN LP EMSI

[Guest guest]

-- wegandy1938@... wrote:

If nominated, I shall not run. If elected, I shall not serve.

g

I'm still writing you in, as long as you don't hold beagles by the ears or show

your apppendectomy scar .

If you can read this, thank a teacher

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Larry RN LP EMSI

[Guest guest]

-- wegandy1938@... wrote:

If nominated, I shall not run. If elected, I shall not serve.

g

I'm still writing you in, as long as you don't hold beagles by the ears or show

your apppendectomy scar .

If you can read this, thank a teacher

If you can comment freely on this, thank a soldier

Larry RN LP EMSI

[Guest guest]

-- wegandy1938@... wrote:

If nominated, I shall not run. If elected, I shall not serve.

g

I'm still writing you in, as long as you don't hold beagles by the ears or show

your apppendectomy scar .

If you can read this, thank a teacher

If you can comment freely on this, thank a soldier

Larry RN LP EMSI

[Guest guest]

In rereading the thread, since this individual seems to be begging, could

vagrancy and panhandling laws be of any use?

Honestly though Larry, do the panhandling laws do any good? You write a ticket

to someone who cannot pay it, and eventually, with enough tickets, you put him

in the county jail for a few days, where he gets the " 3 meals a day " and the

proverbial roof over his head. Several of the homeless people I've come in

contact with over the years have no problem with going to jail for a day or two

or even more. I even had one last year take a swing at me outside of a shelter

after calling 911, because it was cold and raining and he'd been turned away

because he was drunk, in an effort to get arrested.

" lanelson1@... " wrote:

Eloquently stated Gene. I feel the same frustration, experienced the same too

throughout my career. You are so right; we are 'handcuffed' by powers that be.

In rereading the thread, since this individual seems to be begging, could

vagrancy and panhandling laws be of any use?

If you can read this, thank a teacher

If you can comment freely on this, thank a soldier

Larry RN LP EMSI

[Guest guest]

In rereading the thread, since this individual seems to be begging, could

vagrancy and panhandling laws be of any use?

Honestly though Larry, do the panhandling laws do any good? You write a ticket

to someone who cannot pay it, and eventually, with enough tickets, you put him

in the county jail for a few days, where he gets the " 3 meals a day " and the

proverbial roof over his head. Several of the homeless people I've come in

contact with over the years have no problem with going to jail for a day or two

or even more. I even had one last year take a swing at me outside of a shelter

after calling 911, because it was cold and raining and he'd been turned away

because he was drunk, in an effort to get arrested.

" lanelson1@... " wrote:

Eloquently stated Gene. I feel the same frustration, experienced the same too

throughout my career. You are so right; we are 'handcuffed' by powers that be.

In rereading the thread, since this individual seems to be begging, could

vagrancy and panhandling laws be of any use?

If you can read this, thank a teacher

If you can comment freely on this, thank a soldier

Larry RN LP EMSI

[Guest guest]

I'm afraid that vagrancy and panhandling laws, like public

intoxication, would only be a temporary fix. In just a

matter or days, or even hours, he would be right back on the

streets.

Confidentiality restrictions prevent my discussing his

medical problems but, knowing the local and area resources, I

can assure you that it would be very difficult for LE to keep

him in jail for more than a few hours.

And his hygiene is another story-----again, the worst that we

have ever encountered.

Maxine

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>Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 10:18:46 GMT

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>Subject: Re: The Homeless and Shiftless

>To:

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> In rereading the thread, since this individual seems

> to be begging, could vagrancy and panhandling laws

> be of any use?

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>

[Guest guest]

--- hire-Pattison EMS wrote:

> I'm afraid that vagrancy and panhandling laws, like public

> intoxication, would only be a temporary fix. In just a

> matter or days, or even hours, he would be right back on the

> streets.

Get a van.

Invite him to go drinking with you, tell him you'll buy him all the

tequilla he can drink.

Cross the border.

Let him get drunk and pass out in a cantina.

Leave.

He can't come back with no ID...

Mike

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